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* * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *

 
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* * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
The sun is not suppose to be seen over the mountains in Tromsø until January 21. It came back today - one day prior:

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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
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01/20/2011 06:50 AM
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No(r)way!

OK, this is getting creepy.

Wish we'd get a clear sky morning over here soon,
so I can check the almanac's sunrise/-set times...

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01/20/2011 06:53 AM
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
I saved some pics from a web cam:
[link to s778.photobucket.com]
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
I saved some pics from a web cam:
[link to s778.photobucket.com]
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Ooops - must be viewed in reversed order..!
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
No(r)way!

OK, this is getting creepy.

Wish we'd get a clear sky morning over here soon,
so I can check the almanac's sunrise/-set times...

hiding
 Quoting: Accidental Stoner 474742


I tried to watch the web cam yesterday, but it was too cloudy in Tromsø then. I suspect that it could have been seen, because today it was visible too long. Normally it stays up only for app. 3 minutes. My pics shows much longer time.
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01/20/2011 09:56 AM
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bump
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01/20/2011 10:05 AM
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Cern lhc is destroying everything in our solar system. All the common daily records we have known, is now being warped as a result of cern lhc, and this was the real intent of the evil foot soldiers whom control/operate cern lhc and they willing serve the prince of darkness.

Again cern lhc logo is a triangle 666 symbol.
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
I got some pics from the web cam from yesterday. According to the technician, the cam adjusted itself because of increased light for this pic:
[link to s778.photobucket.com]
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01/20/2011 10:14 AM
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
Yeah, seeing as how the sun has returned several weeks earlier on some occasions, one day is hardly a cause for concern.
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[link to www.timeanddate.com]
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
 Quoting: Astronut


The sun rises, yes - but BEHIND the mountains! The sun can NOT be seen from the city center until Jan 21.

At least not until now...
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01/20/2011 10:34 AM
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[link to www.timeanddate.com]


The sun rises, yes - but BEHIND the mountains! The sun can NOT be seen from the city center until Jan 21.

At least not until now...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188


Ignore astronutsack. He thinks he knows the planetary norms better than the Norwegians or Greenlanders.
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[link to www.timeanddate.com]


The sun rises, yes - but BEHIND the mountains! The sun can NOT be seen from the city center until Jan 21.

At least not until now...


Ignore astronutsack. He thinks he knows the planetary norms better than the Norwegians or Greenlanders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212884


Yeah, I know..! cool2
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Does this mean we are in wubble?
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
The sun rises, yes - but BEHIND the mountains! The sun can NOT be seen from the city center until Jan 21.

At least not until now...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188

Interesting, there's a pretty deep inversion layer over Tromso extending south today:
[link to stratus.ssec.wisc.edu]
Its strength isn't too shabby either:
[link to stratus.ssec.wisc.edu]
Such conditions are favorable to increased atmospheric refraction such that light rays travel around the curvature of the earth at a constant altitude
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
This is consistent with a higher apparent altitude for the sun near the horizon than normal.

Last Edited by Dr. Deplorable Astromut on 01/20/2011 10:48 AM
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
Ignore astronutsack. He thinks he knows the planetary norms better than the Norwegians or Greenlanders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212884

Direct observation proves that the planet's axis is right where it should be, so that "norm" is confirmed.
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The Sun refracted off plasma gas crystals creating a weather balloon effect.
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
The sun rises, yes - but BEHIND the mountains! The sun can NOT be seen from the city center until Jan 21.

At least not until now...

Interesting, there's a pretty deep inversion layer over Tromso extending south today:
[link to stratus.ssec.wisc.edu]
Its strength isn't too shabby either:
[link to stratus.ssec.wisc.edu]
Such conditions are favorable to increased atmospheric refraction such that light rays travel around the curvature of the earth at a constant altitude
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Astronut


I think we're be able to recognize the Sun when it appears:
[link to www.itromso.no]

Video:
[link to www.nrk.no]
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
I think we're be able to recognize the Sun when it appears:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188

I didn't say you weren't, I said the sun was refracted higher than normal due to a large, deep temperature inversion extending far south of Tromso. Why do you take that fact as an attack on your ability to recognize the sun?
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
I saved some pics from a web cam:
[link to s778.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188

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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
The sun rises, yes - but BEHIND the mountains! The sun can NOT be seen from the city center until Jan 21.

At least not until now...

Interesting, there's a pretty deep inversion layer over Tromso extending south today:
[link to stratus.ssec.wisc.edu]
Its strength isn't too shabby either:
[link to stratus.ssec.wisc.edu]
Such conditions are favorable to increased atmospheric refraction such that light rays travel around the curvature of the earth at a constant altitude
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


I think we're be able to recognize the Sun when it appears:
[link to www.itromso.no]

Video:
[link to www.nrk.no]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188


lol, no you NEED astronut to confirm it for you jerkit
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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01/20/2011 11:02 AM
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
I think we're be able to recognize the Sun when it appears:

I didn't say you weren't, I said the sun was refracted higher than normal due to a large, deep temperature inversion extending far south of Tromso. Why do you take that fact as an attack on your ability to recognize the sun?
 Quoting: Astronut


Sounded like you meant it could appear as an illusion.
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Well good it's slowing down, because it rose in Greenland 2 days early.
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
I think we're be able to recognize the Sun when it appears:

I didn't say you weren't, I said the sun was refracted higher than normal due to a large, deep temperature inversion extending far south of Tromso. Why do you take that fact as an attack on your ability to recognize the sun?


Sounded like you meant it could appear as an illusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188

If atmospheric refraction qualifies as an illusion then technically every sunrise is an illusion; the sun's true position is below the horizon when you see it rise even on a normal day, but atmospheric refraction causes it to appear at least one diameter higher than it otherwise would (if earth were an airless rock). Atmospheric refraction varies with factors such as temperature and altitude over the horizon, which is why the sun and moon usually look "squashed" as they rise and set; the top is refracted less than the bottom under normal conditions. When astronomical objects are that close to the horizon, changes to the amount or form of refraction due to local conditions become the most significant. Inversion layers in particular can make objects appear higher than normal, either making sunrise occur prematurely or making sunset occur late.
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01/20/2011 11:11 AM
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
I saved some pics from a web cam:
[link to s778.photobucket.com]


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this track fucks me off like g299
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01/20/2011 11:13 AM
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bump

This is strange - two reports now; Greenland and Norway. WTHeck?!
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Re: * * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * *
Well good it's slowing down, because it rose in Greenland 2 days early.
 Quoting: Yee Haw


Not too sure about that... As I mentioned earlier, I got some pics from the web cam taken yesterday, when it was cloudy. According to the technician, the cam adjusted itself because of increased light for this pic:
[link to s778.photobucket.com]

The cam takes pics every 5 minutes.
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01/20/2011 11:18 AM
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Maybe its the correct day on the New JeRUSSalem calendar...


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01/20/2011 11:22 AM
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It is possible the famous Tromsø swamp gas that makes it look like the sun is visible, but it is not..

It could also be an effect from the new year fireworks combined with the cold air from the global warming which is making them explode late and that could create an optical illusion thinking you see the sun..

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This is bad.
This is very bad.