* * * The Sun returned one day too early - Northern Norway * * * | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1081433 United States 01/20/2011 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1179188 Norway 01/20/2011 06:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saved some pics from a web cam: [link to s778.photobucket.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1179188 Norway 01/20/2011 06:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188 Ooops - must be viewed in reversed order..! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1179188 Norway 01/20/2011 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No(r)way! Quoting: Accidental Stoner 474742OK, this is getting creepy. Wish we'd get a clear sky morning over here soon, so I can check the almanac's sunrise/-set times... I tried to watch the web cam yesterday, but it was too cloudy in Tromsø then. I suspect that it could have been seen, because today it was visible too long. Normally it stays up only for app. 3 minutes. My pics shows much longer time. |
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PSSZZZ User ID: 1155274 United States 01/20/2011 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cern lhc is destroying everything in our solar system. All the common daily records we have known, is now being warped as a result of cern lhc, and this was the real intent of the evil foot soldiers whom control/operate cern lhc and they willing serve the prince of darkness. Again cern lhc logo is a triangle 666 symbol. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1179188 Norway 01/20/2011 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got some pics from the web cam from yesterday. According to the technician, the cam adjusted itself because of increased light for this pic: [link to s778.photobucket.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1179188 Norway 01/20/2011 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Astronut The sun rises, yes - but BEHIND the mountains! The sun can NOT be seen from the city center until Jan 21. At least not until now... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1212884 United States 01/20/2011 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.timeanddate.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188The sun rises, yes - but BEHIND the mountains! The sun can NOT be seen from the city center until Jan 21. At least not until now... Ignore astronutsack. He thinks he knows the planetary norms better than the Norwegians or Greenlanders. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1179188 Norway 01/20/2011 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.timeanddate.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212884The sun rises, yes - but BEHIND the mountains! The sun can NOT be seen from the city center until Jan 21. At least not until now... Ignore astronutsack. He thinks he knows the planetary norms better than the Norwegians or Greenlanders. Yeah, I know..! |
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Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 01/20/2011 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun rises, yes - but BEHIND the mountains! The sun can NOT be seen from the city center until Jan 21. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188At least not until now... Interesting, there's a pretty deep inversion layer over Tromso extending south today: [link to stratus.ssec.wisc.edu] Its strength isn't too shabby either: [link to stratus.ssec.wisc.edu] Such conditions are favorable to increased atmospheric refraction such that light rays travel around the curvature of the earth at a constant altitude [link to en.wikipedia.org] This is consistent with a higher apparent altitude for the sun near the horizon than normal. Last Edited by Astromut on 01/20/2011 10:48 AM |
Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 01/20/2011 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ignore astronutsack. He thinks he knows the planetary norms better than the Norwegians or Greenlanders. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212884Direct observation proves that the planet's axis is right where it should be, so that "norm" is confirmed. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1179188 Norway 01/20/2011 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun rises, yes - but BEHIND the mountains! The sun can NOT be seen from the city center until Jan 21. Quoting: AstronutAt least not until now... Interesting, there's a pretty deep inversion layer over Tromso extending south today: [link to stratus.ssec.wisc.edu] Its strength isn't too shabby either: [link to stratus.ssec.wisc.edu] Such conditions are favorable to increased atmospheric refraction such that light rays travel around the curvature of the earth at a constant altitude [link to en.wikipedia.org] I think we're be able to recognize the Sun when it appears: [link to www.itromso.no] Video: [link to www.nrk.no] |
Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 01/20/2011 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we're be able to recognize the Sun when it appears: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188I didn't say you weren't, I said the sun was refracted higher than normal due to a large, deep temperature inversion extending far south of Tromso. Why do you take that fact as an attack on your ability to recognize the sun? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1235835 United States 01/20/2011 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun rises, yes - but BEHIND the mountains! The sun can NOT be seen from the city center until Jan 21. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188At least not until now... Interesting, there's a pretty deep inversion layer over Tromso extending south today: [link to stratus.ssec.wisc.edu] Its strength isn't too shabby either: [link to stratus.ssec.wisc.edu] Such conditions are favorable to increased atmospheric refraction such that light rays travel around the curvature of the earth at a constant altitude [link to en.wikipedia.org] I think we're be able to recognize the Sun when it appears: [link to www.itromso.no] Video: [link to www.nrk.no] lol, no you NEED astronut to confirm it for you |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1179188 Norway 01/20/2011 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we're be able to recognize the Sun when it appears: Quoting: AstronutI didn't say you weren't, I said the sun was refracted higher than normal due to a large, deep temperature inversion extending far south of Tromso. Why do you take that fact as an attack on your ability to recognize the sun? Sounded like you meant it could appear as an illusion. |
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Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 01/20/2011 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we're be able to recognize the Sun when it appears: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188I didn't say you weren't, I said the sun was refracted higher than normal due to a large, deep temperature inversion extending far south of Tromso. Why do you take that fact as an attack on your ability to recognize the sun? Sounded like you meant it could appear as an illusion. If atmospheric refraction qualifies as an illusion then technically every sunrise is an illusion; the sun's true position is below the horizon when you see it rise even on a normal day, but atmospheric refraction causes it to appear at least one diameter higher than it otherwise would (if earth were an airless rock). Atmospheric refraction varies with factors such as temperature and altitude over the horizon, which is why the sun and moon usually look "squashed" as they rise and set; the top is refracted less than the bottom under normal conditions. When astronomical objects are that close to the horizon, changes to the amount or form of refraction due to local conditions become the most significant. Inversion layers in particular can make objects appear higher than normal, either making sunrise occur prematurely or making sunset occur late. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1230850 United Kingdom 01/20/2011 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: "/ 1237131 this track fucks me off like g299 |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1179188 Norway 01/20/2011 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well good it's slowing down, because it rose in Greenland 2 days early. Quoting: Yee HawNot too sure about that... As I mentioned earlier, I got some pics from the web cam taken yesterday, when it was cloudy. According to the technician, the cam adjusted itself because of increased light for this pic: [link to s778.photobucket.com] The cam takes pics every 5 minutes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1237161 Norway 01/20/2011 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is possible the famous Tromsø swamp gas that makes it look like the sun is visible, but it is not.. It could also be an effect from the new year fireworks combined with the cold air from the global warming which is making them explode late and that could create an optical illusion thinking you see the sun.. |
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