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!!ALERT!! Barrow Alaska - The sun rose for 12 minutes today! (WASN'T SUPPOSE TO RISE TILL JAN 24!!!) Follows Greenland and Norway!

 
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Well people, IF its true that the sun has started to rise 4 days earlier then usual, and its looking from various sources that this is indeed the case,I would suggest that even this subtle difference may well bring a varied change in the weather.That is, (like the butterfly effect) a small change in space, could mean a big change on earth.In order for the sun to rise earlier then is usual, then there can be only one or both of two reasons.A) the sun has moved?
B) change in the rotation of the earth/tilt/axis.
I can see no other way the sun could rise "earlier"
or maybe theres a third reason and that is the earth has moved? maybe our earths natural orbit is being pushed or pulled by other unknown gravitational forces? nibiru?
Once I suppose we have confirmation that it is true, we can then narrow down the evidence.Until then Im afraid its all speculation.........................
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Re: !!ALERT!! Barrow Alaska - The sun rose for 12 minutes today! (WASN'T SUPPOSE TO RISE TILL JAN 24!!!) Follows Greenland and Norway!
The correct phrase is "supposed to", not "suppose to"

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Re: !!ALERT!! Barrow Alaska - The sun rose for 12 minutes today! (WASN'T SUPPOSE TO RISE TILL JAN 24!!!) Follows Greenland and Norway!
Exactly.. only 2000 years. So how exactly is it that we know if this is normal or not? .00005% of earths time give or take a billion years or so we have been watching, thats why I keep going back to this being man made when in fact its probably a normal cycle but we like to make something out of nothing and call it abnormal when we have no idea what normal is
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"Normal" is *NO Variance*.

It varied, so it is NOT normal.


Would you like me to simplify that or maybe type slower so you can understand?norespect
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The correct phrase is "supposed to", not "suppose to"

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I thought it was "upposedstool". That the way the hilbillies in VA say it.

But it's nothing to get all 'amotional' about.
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Well people, IF its true that the sun has started to rise 4 days earlier then usual, and its looking from various sources that this is indeed the case,I would suggest that even this subtle difference may well bring a varied change in the weather.That is, (like the butterfly effect) a small change in space, could mean a big change on earth.In order for the sun to rise earlier then is usual, then there can be only one or both of two reasons.A) the sun has moved?
B) change in the rotation of the earth/tilt/axis.
I can see no other way the sun could rise "earlier"
or maybe theres a third reason and that is the earth has moved? maybe our earths natural orbit is being pushed or pulled by other unknown gravitational forces? nibiru?
Once I suppose we have confirmation that it is true, we can then narrow down the evidence.Until then Im afraid *********************its all speculation.........................
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So if I speculate that it is in the same place as always will that move it back to where it was?yoda
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When considering the age of the Earth, as mentioned, this very well could be an occurrence that has happened before, many times.
Most people know that Alaska was once tropical to semi-tropical, it isn't now.
The only way for that to have happened is either extreme global warming or a pole shift.

The signs are not good, especially since we have found out that pole shifts can happen pretty suddenly when they do happen.

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These sites agree:

[link to www.sunrisesunset.com]

[link to www.wunderground.com]

[link to local.msn.com]
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I read that it rose 2 days early in Greenland this year too.
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You know, the difference in time seems to be getting exponentially bigger since first notice of this last week. The fact that light was seen an entire FOUR DAYS before it was expected is quite alarming, but even more so if you think about the fact that last week, the first place to notice the light (Norway?) mentioned only a one day difference, I believe.
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Ok, I live in the Phoenix AZ area and since the winter solstice it seems to me that the sun is rising later than it should. It's still very, very dark at 7 am. and it's not cloudy.

Has anyone else noticed the mornings to be darker than they should?

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I guess this phenomenon is related to the sun rising in the SE and setting in the SW up here in the PNW?
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Thread: The Earth Has Tilted and you can see THIS! (Page 3)

the reasons - we know it!
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Pre-poleshift event..

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I guess this phenomenon is related to the sun rising in the SE and setting in the SW up here in the PNW?
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My compasses are still 28 degrees off, and my compasses say NW and SE as I drive down the straightaways on I5 and 405. E and W aren't as far off, which to me, implies the poles are off.
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I live in south central alaska...
I have noticed us picking up a bit too much daylight for January.
Plus the sun is soooooo freaking bright!!!
Even with shades it just blinds ya, hard to drive at certain times of day between the low angle and the intensness of the sun.
I have talked to other locals about this and they are all reporting same thing, we all even said we just thought our eyes were more sensitive or something..(Over 40 group here, tho' even my kids have said the same thing as well)

Something is up in the world, that is for sure!!


Thanks for at least confirming that the sun is brighter and more daylight then there should be. Hopefully we will get more light shed on this!!


I have the post/thread coming to my inbox and will keep you updated.
Something is most certainly wrong tho', I have been up here almost 20 years and this year is VERY different!! Wierd wind storms more than norm, abnormal pecipitation patterns, abnormal temp variations, no northern lights, we had temps a couple weeks ago that we had in July for goodness sake!!!
And the 90 MPH wind events that are occurring frequently are most odd..
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I live on the peninsula. The light is comming earlier in the mornings and staying later in the afternoons. Our night skies are off and we are supposed to be 60 to 65 degrees warmer than Minnesota tonight.

So we have 1 day early in Norway, 2 days early in Greenland, 4 days early in Alaska. Will be interesting if we hear a 3 days early in Canada! wtf
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Ok, I live in the Phoenix AZ area and since the winter solstice it seems to me that the sun is rising later than it should. It's still very, very dark at 7 am. and it's not cloudy.

Has anyone else noticed the mornings to be darker than they should?

hf
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Alaska again here..
Yes the mornings are darker/different than they used to be...

Any one eise notice the dark is darker than normal?????
And the bright is brighter than normal????
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I live in south central alaska...
I have noticed us picking up a bit too much daylight for January.
Plus the sun is soooooo freaking bright!!!
Even with shades it just blinds ya, hard to drive at certain times of day between the low angle and the intensness of the sun.
I have talked to other locals about this and they are all reporting same thing, we all even said we just thought our eyes were more sensitive or something..(Over 40 group here, tho' even my kids have said the same thing as well)

Something is up in the world, that is for sure!!


Thanks for at least confirming that the sun is brighter and more daylight then there should be. Hopefully we will get more light shed on this!!


I have the post/thread coming to my inbox and will keep you updated.
Something is most certainly wrong tho', I have been up here almost 20 years and this year is VERY different!! Wierd wind storms more than norm, abnormal pecipitation patterns, abnormal temp variations, no northern lights, we had temps a couple weeks ago that we had in July for goodness sake!!!
And the 90 MPH wind events that are occurring frequently are most odd..



I live on the peninsula. The light is comming earlier in the mornings and staying later in the afternoons. Our night skies are off and we are supposed to be 60 to 65 degrees warmer than Minnesota tonight.

So we have 1 day early in Norway, 2 days early in Greenland, 4 days early in Alaska. Will be interesting if we hear a 3 days early in Canada! wtf
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So you notice it too? Kenai?
Weird, eh??
And all that snow today, a record......
Glad to have snow back tho', there is isolated freezing rain for 2nite up in Mat-Su?????
WTF????
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[link to www.redday2012.com]

that was horrible.

without individuals, the source is quite sour.

or would that be bland.

it is in error at anyrate.

who would want to 'lead' the masses.

mental inept, idealistic which it parallels.

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do NO harm isn't a hidden headline in our psalms.

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Killing babies is in your psalms.. if you're talking about that "holy" book. 137v9 and don't give me that out of context bullshit.
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someone must have the numbers wrong somewhere... bsflag
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I just had a mad thought.

What if it´s not January the 21st right now?

Tempus fugit....
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[link to www.intellicast.com]

someone must have the numbers wrong somewhere... bsflag
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My 3 links that say no sun til Sunday trump your one BS link.
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All the nuclear testing in the 1950's affected the tilt of the earth very slightly. Rand Corp. set up models to study possible long-term effects. The models showed a geographic poleshift(earth rolled over) 60% of the time and a magnetic flip 40% of the time. They estimated the timeframe for one of these two scenarios to be 2010 to 2016.
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[link to www.intellicast.com]

someone must have the numbers wrong somewhere... bsflag


My 3 links that say no sun til Sunday trump your one BS link.
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no! ......the link says the sun was up for 2 minutes. so why was there no mention of it being up early...

someone has the numbers wrong..

im thinking the earthquake of 2004 and the great chile quake
together (being as close together as they were)tilted the earth 11 3/4 of an inch and slowed the earth down as little as it was milliseconds, this is why we are seeing change. and also i just think we ne to update our calculations..

just saying... tounge
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Shameless bump because there was another thread where people talked about watching and seeing what the sun did in Alaska.
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Hi I live in SW Alaska and I believe the sunrise and sunset has been normal here, though we are many miles from Barrow!
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Ok, I live in the Phoenix AZ area and since the winter solstice it seems to me that the sun is rising later than it should. It's still very, very dark at 7 am. and it's not cloudy.

Has anyone else noticed the mornings to be darker than they should?

hf



Alaska again here..
Yes the mornings are darker/different than they used to be...

Any one eise notice the dark is darker than normal?????
And the bright is brighter than normal????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237927


Here in SW it is just dark. When the sun is up it's weak and skirts the horizon until it goes down a few hours later. I did think it was odd though that it was still somewhat light at around 5:30 pm the other day, but I'm no expert on when the sun is suppose to rise and set. It just seems so dark and I miss the sun and everyone is crabby.
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