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Video of the moon showing it is horizontally dark - AT THE TOP!

 
Mother Mary  (OP)

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animated gif of moon phases

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timelapse photo of moon phases

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another timelapse photo of moon phases

[link to web.hallym.ac.kr]

all vertical..
I'm confused...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229463


In the US it isnt strange at all. It would be strange if it was vertical where I live, or horizontal where you live. But it isnt strange because it is what it should be where it should be....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237624


LOL It IS horizontal where I live!!! Point proven once again.
 Quoting: Mother Mary


Well then we are neighbors. It certainly isnt horizontal in the US....

If the Moon goes up almost straight from the horizon (as it does when seen from the equator), then the crescent appears horizontal. If the Moon rises at a shallow angle (as seen far from the equator), then the crescent is mostly vertical.

[link to www.astro.uu.nl]

So you need to prove your claim. A picture of the moon, with todays newspaper, and some sort of proof you are where you say you are. Otherwise,,,, you are full of shit....
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It is horizontal in the video.

Would you like to me to provide a link to my property records? (They are public anyone can find them)If it proved I wasn't full of shit, I would give it. Or I could video record the television stations on my TV and show you it is Time Warner Cable with Cleveland, OH and Erie, PA stations on it. But I see where this has come to...if you can't explain it away then you have to try to claim that I am full of shit.

Now, another way I can do it is wait for the next night that I can see the moon and have the newspaper ready, but you'd probably claim that I traveled across the country to get that paper or had someone express mail it to me same day.
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Look at how the moon is drawn in children's books.

If this was common, the moon would smile for the kids.

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It's just like Jesus always having a white complexion and blue eyes.... It all depends who's taking the picture, baby..
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Look at how the moon is drawn in children's books.

If this was common, the moon would smile for the kids.

Shill me, kill me, but don't try to bill me baby.
 Quoting: Path_No_Logical_Ire

Fuck you too. It's been explained why this happens.

You just refuse to picture the fact that the earth is a giant ~sphere floating through space with another big ~sphere circling around it at a tilted angle. If you took 10 fucking minutes to actually read the explanations you'd shut the fuck up, but you won't because you're obviously smarter than the people who invented calculus.

Fuck you.
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Whats funny is they call us shills.... Bahahahahahah...... Oh the drama...
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Re: Video of the moon showing it is horizontally dark - AT THE TOP!
If the Moon goes up almost straight from the horizon (as it does when seen from the equator), then the crescent appears horizontal. If the Moon rises at a shallow angle (as seen far from the equator), then the crescent is mostly vertical.

[link to www.astro.uu.nl]
e full of shit....
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It is horizontal in the video.


Then you are proving it is near the equator.
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In the US it isnt strange at all. It would be strange if it was vertical where I live, or horizontal where you live. But it isnt strange because it is what it should be where it should be....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237624


LOL It IS horizontal where I live!!! Point proven once again.
 Quoting: Mother Mary


Well then we are neighbors. It certainly isnt horizontal in the US....

If the Moon goes up almost straight from the horizon (as it does when seen from the equator), then the crescent appears horizontal. If the Moon rises at a shallow angle (as seen far from the equator), then the crescent is mostly vertical.

[link to www.astro.uu.nl]

So you need to prove your claim. A picture of the moon, with todays newspaper, and some sort of proof you are where you say you are. Otherwise,,,, you are full of shit....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237624


It is horizontal in the video.

Would you like to me to provide a link to my property records? (They are public anyone can find them)If it proved I wasn't full of shit, I would give it. Or I could video record the television stations on my TV and show you it is Time Warner Cable with Cleveland, OH and Erie, PA stations on it. But I see where this has come to...if you can't explain it away then you have to try to claim that I am full of shit.

Now, another way I can do it is wait for the next night that I can see the moon and have the newspaper ready, but you'd probably claim that I traveled across the country to get that paper or had someone express mail it to me same day.
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"OH and Erie, PA" Well that explains it then... Geo reference your lat and longitude and how it DOES correlate to your observations of the damn satellite.
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I hope this helps with my point:

:moonperspective:

The reason all the images of moon phases show a verticle line is because it's the most logical way to display it. As shown in the image above, depending on where you are at at on the earth the orientation the moon will look completely different. So displaying it to show exactly how it appears to you in the sky would require the moon phase program to know where you were at on the earth which is too complicated for most moon phase programs so they just show you it straight up and down.

I will attempt to find a good ephemeris program that you can enter your longitude and latitude or nearest large city and it can display every object in the sky to your orientation.
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Well, Norway is almost on top - right?
This is how the moon looked around Christmas near Bergen:
[link to www.meld.no]
[link to www.meld.no]

Normal..? Not for us..!
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Why dont you address this picture? It proves everything...

[link to grin.hq.nasa.gov]
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I hope this helps with my point:

:moonperspective:

The reason all the images of moon phases show a verticle line is because it's the most logical way to display it. As shown in the image above, depending on where you are at at on the earth the orientation the moon will look completely different. So displaying it to show exactly how it appears to you in the sky would require the moon phase program to know where you were at on the earth which is too complicated for most moon phase programs so they just show you it straight up and down.

I will attempt to find a good ephemeris program that you can enter your longitude and latitude or nearest large city and it can display every object in the sky to your orientation.
 Quoting: Currahee


Well, Norway is almost on top - right?
This is how the moon looked around Christmas near Bergen:
[link to www.meld.no]
[link to www.meld.no]

Normal..? Not for us..!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190422


Well, one fact remains: if it is abnormal for one it should be abnormal for all. So if this abnormal by all,,, then only one conclusion remains: it is you that is abnormal...
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Re: Video of the moon showing it is horizontally dark - AT THE TOP!
Look at how the moon is drawn in children's books.

If this was common, the moon would smile for the kids.

Shill me, kill me, but don't try to bill me baby.
 Quoting: Path_No_Logical_Ire

Fuck you too. It's been explained why this happens.

You just refuse to picture the fact that the earth is a giant ~sphere floating through space with another big ~sphere circling around it at a tilted angle. If you took 10 fucking minutes to actually read the explanations you'd shut the fuck up, but you won't because you're obviously smarter than the people who invented calculus.

Fuck you.
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Whats funny is they call us shills.... Bahahahahahah...... Oh the drama...
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Yeah, at least we an do it with proper language instead of cussing everyone out. (And I cussed in the above post because I was "quoting" what the last person said to me.)

If you don't like that we don't just become a sheep and believe you, then maybe all of you need to take a look in the mirror. BBAAAHHHHHHH

And if there is one thing I am not, it is a sheep. A sheep doesn't think outside the box, they just agree with what NASA scientist have told them.

Love you all still!! hf
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Re: Video of the moon showing it is horizontally dark - AT THE TOP!
Look at how the moon is drawn in children's books.

If this was common, the moon would smile for the kids.

Shill me, kill me, but don't try to bill me baby.
 Quoting: Path_No_Logical_Ire


It's just like Jesus always having a white complexion and blue eyes.... It all depends who's taking the picture, baby..
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That doesn't make my brown eyes blue.

You can't snuff out awareness, no matter the effort.

The best you can do is try to bury it under piles of trash.

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edit, if this ISNT abnormal by all....
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Yes, and my question was can we see any of that 41% that we normally can't see?
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Err, what? We see 50% of the Moon's surface at any time. If the Moon was in perfectly in plane, and perfectly synchronized in rotation, we'd only see 50% ever. It is not however perfect. It nods and dips slightly over time, leading to us being able to see about 59% of it's surface.


When I ride a Ferris wheel the world has never appeared upside down to me. That's a real new one on me. I wanna see that though cause it would be pretty cool.
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You missed the key phrase "without pivoting cars." The implication was that you went head over heels during the ride. A better example would perhaps be one of those things you strap into and spin around and upside down.


Again...pictures of the moon doing this before now and less talk. I swear when something new comes up the shills come out in full force trying to give you babble about why the moon is perfectly normal when you know from your own eyes that it is not normal.
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This is a case where direct observation trumps second-hand data. Watch the Moon. It will rotate. That is simple and direct and indisputable.

It is normal.

My experience as an artist, and as an amateur scientist, is that the human brain has an infinite capacity to confabulate. We all think we know what a cat looks like -- but most of us, asked to draw one, will get a hundred things wrong. Our lifetimes are mostly spent casually browsing the world, without the sharp and penetrating eye of the artist or the measuring and careful recording of the scientist.

It was a scientist, the wonderful Richard Feynman, who in an address to a graduating class said "Never forget you are the easiest one to fool." The process of becoming an artist is learning to actually observe, to memorize those details that most people pass by, to see what is actually there and not what people think is there. The process of becoming a scientist is to understand that we are all human and we all err, and to find ways to test oneself; to assume first of all that the anomaly lies with you, not with the experiment. To look, hard, for the place where you screwed it up, BEFORE going out into the world declaring you've made a great discovery.

We are all, even the greatest artists, blind and stupid about something. Given the great variety and complexity of the world, in fact, about many things. It is no shame to not have observed something closely in the past. This is why artists have clip books, and musicians have cheat books, and scientists have journals and symposia.

The only mistake is to proceed without doubt; to insist that a cat's ears lie parallel to the sagittal plane of the skull, and the ratio of tail length to body length is always 1:1.

Measure the cat. Or go find one and look at it with fresh eyes, trying to discard what you thought you knew and replace it with what is actually there.
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Why dont you address this picture? It proves everything...

[link to grin.hq.nasa.gov]
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Because it isn't a picture taken from my standpoint. ON EARTH!
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I hope this helps with my point:

:moonperspective:

The reason all the images of moon phases show a verticle line is because it's the most logical way to display it. As shown in the image above, depending on where you are at at on the earth the orientation the moon will look completely different. So displaying it to show exactly how it appears to you in the sky would require the moon phase program to know where you were at on the earth which is too complicated for most moon phase programs so they just show you it straight up and down.

I will attempt to find a good ephemeris program that you can enter your longitude and latitude or nearest large city and it can display every object in the sky to your orientation.
 Quoting: Currahee


Well, Norway is almost on top - right?
This is how the moon looked around Christmas near Bergen:
[link to www.meld.no]
[link to www.meld.no]

Normal..? Not for us..!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190422


Normal depends on the time, the degree of transit. You cant just put a pic up from your reference point without this data and say its not normal. DATA...
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Me not like the new quotes.
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YOU PEOPLE MUST be doing this just for the drama now. So, you still think that the moon or earth is flippped around or turned upside down? Really? I mean really think about that.


SO OP what do you think is going on then?? Please explain your theory...
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Why dont you address this picture? It proves everything...

[link to grin.hq.nasa.gov]
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Because it isn't a picture taken from my standpoint. ON EARTH!
 Quoting: Mother Mary


That does not matter. It proves that the light arc on the Earth is in direct correlation with the light arc on the moon. They are equal to each other. It is horizontal. That is what you asked for. That is what I have proven to you. Do you mean to tell me that such a detail oriented Person such as yourself cannot superimpose yourself in view, and see for yourself?

Come on, this is getting ridicules.
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Re: Video of the moon showing it is horizontally dark - AT THE TOP!
What about this picture? It is a diagram of the moon made by Galileo.. [link to galileo.rice.edu]
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Re: Video of the moon showing it is horizontally dark - AT THE TOP!
I hope this helps with my point:

:moonperspective:

The reason all the images of moon phases show a verticle line is because it's the most logical way to display it. As shown in the image above, depending on where you are at at on the earth the orientation the moon will look completely different. So displaying it to show exactly how it appears to you in the sky would require the moon phase program to know where you were at on the earth which is too complicated for most moon phase programs so they just show you it straight up and down.

I will attempt to find a good ephemeris program that you can enter your longitude and latitude or nearest large city and it can display every object in the sky to your orientation.
 Quoting: Currahee


Well, Norway is almost on top - right?
This is how the moon looked around Christmas near Bergen:
[link to www.meld.no]
[link to www.meld.no]

Normal..? Not for us..!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190422


Normal depends on the time, the degree of transit. You cant just put a pic up from your reference point without this data and say its not normal. DATA...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1119817


It should be normal no matter the time,,, since most of us are stationary and normal is defined by our geographic location. Only when you observe the moon phases from a different latitude do you notice the phases are different from what you are used to....
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What about this picture? It is a diagram of the moon made by Galileo.. [link to galileo.rice.edu]
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What about this picture? It is a diagram of the moon made by Galileo.. [link to galileo.rice.edu]
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Yes and it appears to be surrounded by a geodesic barrier.

And transmitting signals.

Thanks for pointing that out!
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What about this picture? It is a diagram of the moon made by Galileo.. [link to galileo.rice.edu]
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Here is another sketch by him. You will notice a certain presumed anomaly. [link to www.boingboing.net]

Why could that be?????????
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If the Moon goes up almost straight from the horizon (as it does when seen from the equator), then the crescent appears horizontal. If the Moon rises at a shallow angle (as seen far from the equator), then the crescent is mostly vertical.

[link to www.astro.uu.nl]
e full of shit....
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It is horizontal in the video.
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Then you are proving it is near the equator.


I'm NOT on the equator. The one thing I don't do is lie. I am where I am in the world. If I was near the equator my little flag would certainly not say United States...and a mod can easily look up my IP address and can tell you for the last TWO YEARS that I have been at GLP that I am in NE Ohio. Always have been, always will be.

Your whole argument is based on saying that I am lying about where I live? Interesting twist on things.
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[link to aa.usno.navy.mil]

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Re: Video of the moon showing it is horizontally dark - AT THE TOP!
What about this picture? It is a diagram of the moon made by Galileo.. [link to galileo.rice.edu]
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Could have copied/scanned it upside down.
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What about this picture? It is a diagram of the moon made by Galileo.. [link to galileo.rice.edu]
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Could have copied/scanned it upside down.
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That is a parchment. It can be found in the Library of Congress. It is a sketch by him. Now you are just reaching to support your uniformed conclusion.
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If the Moon goes up almost straight from the horizon (as it does when seen from the equator), then the crescent appears horizontal. If the Moon rises at a shallow angle (as seen far from the equator), then the crescent is mostly vertical.

[link to www.astro.uu.nl]
e full of shit....
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It is horizontal in the video.
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Then you are proving it is near the equator.
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I'm NOT on the equator. The one thing I don't do is lie. I am where I am in the world. If I was near the equator my little flag would certainly not say United States...and a mod can easily look up my IP address and can tell you for the last TWO YEARS that I have been at GLP that I am in NE Ohio. Always have been, always will be.

Your whole argument is based on saying that I am lying about where I live? Interesting twist on things.


Again,,, if it is abnormal for you it should be abnormal for everyone around the globe -- unless your theory is that Ohio is not observing the same moon as the rest of us.
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What about this picture? It is a diagram of the moon made by Galileo.. [link to galileo.rice.edu]
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Could have copied/scanned it upside down.
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That is a parchment. It can be found in the Library of Congress. It is a sketch by him. Now you are just reaching to support your uniformed conclusion.
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The truth is you have had the reason explained to you in great detail, but you still refuse to understand, and continue, and that is why I have said to you that you have a mental illness. I am not insulting you, that is just the fact when someone refuses to accept fact as it is presented to them, what else should one call it?
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Dear god, I had no idea people were this stupid and gullible. Sorry but it had to be said! I read the first two pages of gibberish then I had to stop. It seems SOME people have no comprehension or understanding of how the solar system works...it's not your fault entirely, it's just that fact that most do not understand astronomy. The problem I have with all of this though, is the fact when someone see's something they do not understand and draw their own conclusion without asking questions. They claim its something unusual, or even supernatural when in reality its only natural and the laws of physic's doing their thing. It's at this point that I have to call spade a spade, and someone who REFUSES to properly investigate by talking to a professional (try a local astronomy club) and ask the question to get the RIGHT answer then you are truly worthy of the title IDIOT, or better yet IMBECILE!!!

Cheers.
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What about this picture? It is a diagram of the moon made by Galileo.. [link to galileo.rice.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1119817


Here is another sketch by him. You will notice a certain presumed anomaly. [link to www.boingboing.net]

Why could that be?????????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1119817


Galileo also said that the sun revolved around the Earth and no one believed him about that...I am sure he drew these and no one believed him. I mean, 5 out of 6 of them are normal vertical waxing and waning.

No, I never give up...it isn't in my nature.
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