RAPTURE TIME IS NEXT ----- Does UP implie the Rapture? YES

if your leaving and have a nice house, can I live there till the end as that I have sinned and expect to stay here, but as long as I´m here, a nice new BIG house would do for me the remaining sinners. Northern Michigan will do if there is any givers that are taking off soon. Serious rapturists only reply.

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AS YOU WISH IT WILL BE DONE.

YOU MADE THE CHOICE - REMEMBER!

The things Christians believe are incredibly stupid. Adults with faith in Santa Claus - pathetic.

I want to stay.......I need the hofific experiences that you all say is coming in my resume. I would rather die with the sinners than sit around with the pious watching. What do you get out of that? So, if you have no sin, git going, but do not count on GRACE to get a ticket in, that was a joke we played on your butts.....works is all that count. If you have been mis lead, sorry.

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Lurker alert!

For all you lurkers who check in to this site and yet are not Christians, I say that the time is at hand for action.

Call out to God, repent of your sins, and accept Jesus as your Savior. Then get involved with other Christians, get baptized and live the rest of your life according to the Bible and what God is telling you.

You see, this is not a practice run, this is the real thing. You are so close to being saved and yet you could end up in Hell because you didn’t do what you know you should do.

Come on, join us and then start posting to let us know you are with us.

Heaven or Hell? You and you alone get to decide.

to put it even less midly, I want to be in the middle of the shitstorm a comin. Yep, my choice, just like coming to this shit hole 52 years ago, my choice. That is freedom, for the freedom to choose instead of what is pushed down your throat. Yep, we be a stayin and not lookin to punk out like you pious muther fockers. Funny it will be when the shit hits aand your lame asses are still here getting in the way. Get real, find anywhere RAPTURE in the BIBLE.

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Not the easy way but thru death is the lot of man. See ya all later, much later....

Time to put on my truss. You did say rupture didn´t you?

Christian bullshitters have been spouting the same old EOTW crap for two millenia.

It just ain´t gonna happen.

Talk about a cult of negativity.....

These people must really hate themselves to be so obsessed with death and destruction.

I wish your rapture would happen soon so the rest of us can live in peace

Good morning Christ´s Child. I have a problem my friend in what your think is right and righteous. I can tell that you are unlearned as to what God thinks of those that teach the rapture. I say that not with malice nor bitterness, but to awaken you to what you already know. Amos 8:11 verifies that most Christians are biblically ignorant. Ever read Eze. 13:17-23. There you will see what God says about those that cover His real truth teaching lies about the rapture. Ever read 2 Thess. chapter two? No you have not, and if you have then you do not understand what you have read. Again I say that not to offend but to awaken. Let me ask you this question to prove that your lost. In Revelations God tells satan and his bad angels with him that he can go down and sting all those that do not have the "seal of God in their foreheads". What are Christians still doing here that God must warn satan not to touch them? What is the sealing? Being saved is just that. Being saved and sealed means you have the whole armor of God on and in place. Ever read Eze. chapter 9? The is a prophetic chapter telling of a event in that time and hidden prophetic information tell us who read it what will happen in the end times. See how God will start with the churches first and with the pastors? All those that are not sealed with the truth will be working and spreading lies for satan. "Flood of lies". Satan uses men at the pulpit to spread his lies, and people who get sucked up by their teachings and never study for themselves will be doing the work of satan out of ignorance of course. Question::What is the last 7 events that happen before we gather back to Christ? You do not know and I know you do not know because you have even used Mary´s work and think its holy and from God. You use others peoples work thinking your doing right and by that you think your saving souls that should not live and crusifying those that should live. Quoting from Eze>above. You have been duked my friend and your not going to bring anyone to God by your actions. 1 Corinthians 15:52 tells us when we will gather back to Christ. And it says at the last trump. How many trumps are there? Can you count them? A first grader can count and know which number is last, but most Christians cannot count because they are lead by the nose by some unlearned bible thumper pastor. I am a real Christian and maybe you think I am hard on your words. I am not out to win friends, but to reveal the real truth of what the bible says. You will be judged by your words and the things you do against Gods plan. Think about it. Verify that the rapture is true and the fly away at any moment doctrine is true. You cannot. You can use some book, but you cannot use the bible because the bible calls your belief a lie propigated in 1830 by some insane woman in Scotdale England and brought forth by two catholic priest to help make their church grow. God said He would send a strong delusion in the latter days. What is that delusion Christ´s Child? You do not even know that, you want to push the "Rapture" Fly away at any moment doctrine and you think by "Fear" you can bring people to the Lord. Christ did not use fear and so no Christian should either. To get you started on getting you sealed, listen to what Christ says in the sealing chapters; which are; Mat. 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. He says that we shall not gather back Him until the abomination of desolation be revealed, which is none other than the star, the fake morning star in Rev. 9, satan. He shall stand in the temple calling himself Jesus. You, like the unlearned will tell all of your family and friends when that happens that it is Jesus. You will be held accountable for your pushing satan´s lies. Sorry my friend for being tough on you, but a lie is a lie. You cannot even begin to answer the questions I asked nor will you even try. Why? Because the spirit of slumber is apon you given to you by God, not satan, but by God. See Isaiah 29, Isaiah 66, and Romans 11. Who are you? Are you one of the elect doing Gods work or are you the flood of lies that satan uses. See Rev. 17:15, that whore is the church systems. And the "waters" the flood of satans lies is what it says there. Wake up yourself and ask God why a person like me gave so much time to even respond to your thread. Am I any better than you as a sinner? No, but I am sealed. Rev. 7 says in the end times that God will seal His servents that will do His work. Read Rev. 7:3 and ask God why your not sealed. Sealed means you have the plan of God locked and loaded in your mind. All fakes or lazy Christians who lean on the pulpits of some church system, God cannot use. He has chosen 7000 that will not bend a knee to Baal(Romans 11:4). Baal worship is end the end times means those that worship a church system instead of Christ. There is more to the Word, the Bible than you have been taught or learned for yourself. You cannot bring anyone into the truth until you put the gospel on first. Sorry, you just ran into one of the elect, the real elect. I say that in pride, but fact. God does the sealing, not me, not you, and surely not some super preacher behind some pulpit. Can God use you? You answer that to Him, not me.. I say this to you, blessings, even though I know my words will inflame you.. Blesssings and Peace and Love from the throne of God..

"Then get involved with other Christians"

I agree with little star....there is, from my limited understanding, NO pre-tribulation "rapture".

And, as far as getting involved with other "Christians".....well, as little star points out, what I refer to as "church goers", todays Christians are generally not who I care to be associated with. Hypocracy has a little something to do with it and Materialism seems to be the prime directive. No thanks. I don´t study the Bible too much these days because I suppose I know the basics, and to me, the basics are to Love God, Love Others. And Jesus demonstrated how to do this. For me, as much as I can understand and do, trying to be like Jesus is the simplest way. We all don´t need to be Bible scholars although it has been good to have others point out the misrepresentations by some people and "The Church". I don´t really worry about being raptured, or not. I do know that God has a place for me because of what´s in my heart. And, I do know that I shall never be fooled by a usurper, for it´s been said that God gives us what we ask of Him and I´ve asked that I never be fooled....to be able to discern Truth....and it seems to work. For that, I am most grateful.

Come, Lord Jesus!....can´t wait to see your face!

Michael

The pre-tribulation rapture is a canard. The New Testament is clear that the rapture will happen at the LAST trumpet, following the great tribulation. The prophet Daniel stated that Antichrist has power to "tread on the saints" for 42 months.

The church will be tested, tried, tempted and purified through the coming fires of testing and many will perish for Yashua´s sake. There is no "get out of jail free" card for the church of today.

Be prepared. The worst is yet to come.

"live the rest of your life according to the Bible and what God is telling you."


Sorry, the bible does NOT have the word "rapture" in it. By saying there is a rapture you are adding to Gods´ word & God tells us NOT to do that.

His chosen will be taken up into the clouds AFTER the tribulation. Some of his chosen will be protected & others will martyred.

Those who try to save their lives will die & if you are willing to lose your life you will live.

AC 3742 thanks for you imput, but I want to correct you on something that I think you should know. Christ said in Mark 13 that He had shorten those days that satan will be here or otherwise not flesh will be saved. Christ shorten the time frame as to what Daniel stated. Prove it? Sure. Read Rev. 9. Pay attention to Rev. 9:5 and 9:10. There is my witness to confirming the Word as Paul teaches us to do in 2 Corinthians 13:1." This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two witnesses shall every word be established.". Paul is teaching us how to confirm the Word. In the old test. to cast judgement against anyone you must have two witness´s. Christ sent out two witness´s. There will be two witness´s that will be killed by satan, and only two churches that will not be decieved (prophetically speaking)which means those two types of churchs spoken of in Rev. 2:9 and Rev. 3:9. They keep the Word is why they will not fall or fail Christ. So to conclude my statement to you, we need two witness´s to confirm what I said Christ taught. And again it is in Rev. 9. as stated above. Thanks and many blessings.

thanks for you imput,

AC 11412, hey thanks for your comment. Very good , but I want to point out some scriptures for you if you do not mind. you said this....


His chosen will be taken up into the clouds AFTER the tribulation.

I am sorry to disagree with you. The word clouds is a Greek slang word, or street Greek lang. Today we have carried over some of it in by saying something like this" A cloud of locust". The meaning of cloud in symbology means " large body of people" in the case of what is written in 1 Thess. chapter 4. Look at Pauls writtings in Heb. 21:1. Cloud of witness. How can a cloud be a witness. It cannot. Look with me in Jude verse 12 (again cloud is being used). " These are spots in your feast of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear; clouds they are without water..(Stop and think about that word cloud there. Clouds is nothing but water. Again it means large body of people and in this case, all those that do not believe, all the fake Christians, all those working for satan cause. Meaning, the majority will be decieved. Now also I must state this to you if you do not mind me doing so. God gave satan the command not to kill anyone. Those who will be doing the killings and beatings will be Christians, non-believers, and believers of other religions. Prove that? Sure. Mark 13:9 " But take heed to yourselves(becareful); for they(they? Christians and governments)shall deliver you up to councilss (governments) and in the synagogues(churches) ye shall be beaten : and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake. " Why? Because the world is in darkness right now. The smoke from the pit of satan (Rev. 9:2) the great end time delusion, deceptions is in full effect. That is why most Christians fall for the rapture...And that is why most Christians teach fear, fear, fear... All untrue. They are not sealed with the truth, therefore they errors in their beliefs and teachings. thanks for you imput..Blessings to you.

Thanks, 95. I´ve prayed and studied about eschatology for over thirty years now, and have concluded that the timing of the rapture is post trib.

Believe me, I am well aware of the apologetics involving the pre-trib position (the doctrine of imminency chief among them), but believe the overall tenor of Scripture suggests otherwise.

An excerpt from Benjamin Baruch, with whom I largely agree:
"Following the signs which are the “beginning of sorrows”, the LORD tells us “then” the true believers will be delivered up to be afflicted “and they shall kill you and you shall be hated of all nations.” This time of persecution precedes the tribulation and will come suddenly as a snare! One day soon, the majority of the people in the church will awaken and realize they have been lied to, and deceived by their leaders, who did not warn them this persecution was coming. The “many” who consider themselves Christians will then be “offended” and “betray” one another. The American believers are neither emotionally nor spiritually prepared for the sudden and intense persecution which is about to fall upon them, and when it comes, and it will surely come, the majority will be utterly devastated."


Let´s agree on one thing... Be prepared either way. We should live as though He could come at any moment (indeed if we die unexpectedly, we´ll be in His presence) and yet simultaneously prepare for difficult times of distress and testing.

Notice how time has passed on this thread and Christ´s Child has not responded. That my friends is how a unlearned Christian stands. When they get the truth, they wilt and fall into sometimes even tears. I say that not to offend, but I see tons of lies about the Word, the bible on this sight and sometimes I just want to shout out in complete agony that I cannot do anything spiritually about it. When ever I speak with so called pastors they clam up and hang their heads in shame. I have not light esteemed my salvation that Christ paid for. I seek His wisdom and truths to teach others how to study for themselves, not like most church systems. I teach them how to study and verify. Then I step out of the way and let them have a one on one relationship with God in His Word without me being in the middle as the go between man. Most pastors step between you and God in His Word to keep you coming back to them. I tell you all this, let Christ lead and let the pastors fall. Read John chapter 6 about the hidden manna. For He is the bread of Life. Read Rev. 2:17 and see if you have recieve a new name written which no mans recieves excepted those that know the new name...(No Michael either like one false religion presents.) Let Christ teach you that new name, a new white stone...Blessings to all.

Good work 3742. I caution you about others work tho. I do not know the work of Benjamin Baruch, and I do not follow any mans work. I follow Christ. We do not need others to teach us the truth, only Christ. My statement of killings is that satan has be command not to kill. But man will...Why? Because they will think they are right and that satan is Jesus. Furthermore, there is two tribs. Christ speaks of the first trib. in Mat. 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. The second trib is the one that God delivers out. Again as I stated above, it is spelled out in Ezekiel chapter 9. Pay attention to verse 4. The sealing..Next see Rev. 7:2-3. That sealing is taking place right now. God does the sealing, no man can seal another know matter how much of the Word they know. All of the other things you said is right on the button. Good words my friend, I wish more would live it.

Wide is the road to deception and narrow is the path to heaven.

This thread was started to save souls and to give the last hour warning before the Rapture snatch.

You in your own mindset may take it any way you want. Laugh, ridicule, use lawyers semantic verbage - whatever - I don´t care!

Nor am I interested in debate at this late hour.

My assignment was to give the sinners and non-believers the final warning. I have done my job.

If you are "Of the Spirit" you know from were I am coming from.

To the others.

You cannot deny you have been warned!

Narrow is the path to heaven but we do have Yeshua, Jesus Christ as our guide.

GOD BLESS

Sorry to offend you 257, I knew I could bring you out. But I must go now, I just got company. Blessing to you. I notice that you did not comment on the rapture belief that you have.. Again I am sorry..

to 95

Yes I am sorry for you.

You are worldly educated but not of the spirit. And you deny yourself the opportunity to learn more.

All I can say again.

You cannot deny that you have been warned!

Child,

Where does the word "rapture" appear in the bible?

Answer - It isn´t. By saying it does, you are adding to Gods´ law & God tells not to do that.

We are NOT to add or take away from his word.

Don´t go to the left or to the right, but right down the middle.

i suppose there will be a rapture of sorts as the bodies of millions of humans will be converted to light in the blink of an eye, as to hydrogen atoms seek to occupy the same space at the same time. the many mushroom clouds great glow and the shadows burned for eternity into the ground, cement and sand will bear succinct testament to the rapture and, at last put a stop to the inane intolerance of all organized religion´s - the poison of life and the anathema of love.

the word "rapture" is NOT in the Bible

it is some made up term...inserted into the human thought process...that will allow the aliens who EAT HUMANS...to assemble a bunch of the for their flight home and cattle production once they arrive there.

All they will have to do is say the magic word "rapture" and millions of christians will trample each other to be the first..."lifted" into heaven...by the "host"...

bwahahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahhaha

if you don´t want to become food...
avoide the NON bibical "rapture"

we are ALL Gods children...wake UP

Christ consciousness allows us to SAVE ourself...but choosing to "do unto others, as we would have them do unto us"

NO RELIGION NECESSARY...

even if u get raptured, u will still be the same miserable asshole u were on Earth.

The word Rapture is not in the bible.

BULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now children of the darkness ----

Check out the Greek word for "taken away" and then go to the original translation which was in Greek.

BINGO!

Now do a google search for RAPTURE and one will find a large numbers of sites which do describe this definition in the Bible - in detail.

Yea - I know - too much work for you.



Now were is your remote for the TV, sure must be some good wrestling matches on?

I repeat...the WORD "rapture" does NOT appear in the bible...

you are a dork...just because there are millions who have been programed to "buy into" this NEW teaching...does not mean it is true

greek my ass...

try Riticulian...

Are you sure the original translation was in Greek?

There were many who thought the book of Matthew was written in Greek. It was originally written in Hebrew.


Give me the book, chapter & verse where the word "rapture" appears. I´ll take a look at it.

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality." 1 Corinthians 15:51-53 (KJV)

"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." Wherefore comfort one another with these words." 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 (KJV)




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:: The Rapture ...

"Rapture" ... This controversial word brings indescribable hope and joy to some ...
and confusion and even dread to others ... But the event we are going to discus known as the Rapture ... should be nothing less then the ultimate Blessed Hope and eager expectation of every true Christian. It is what the early church longed for and through the centuries has continued to be the hope of many. While others have decided it is something too good to be true and abandoned such thoughts .... obviously they have forgotten that everything about our Lord Jesus Christ is too good to be true - YET IT IS!

The word ´Rapture´ does not appear in the English Bible - It comes from the Latin Vulgate.
In God´s Word it was the Apostle Paul who explains the Rapture to us.
He describes it as a "Mystery." (1 Corinthians 15:51-53)
The word in the original Greek is ´Mysterion´.
Which meant he was revealing a new truth, not known before.

This mysterious event is most clearly represented in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 ...
In this passage the English phrase "caught up" translates the Greek word HARPAZO, which means "to seize upon with force" or "to snatch up." The Latin translators of the Bible used the word "rapturo," the root of the English term "Rapture." At the Rapture, living believers will be "caught up" in the air, translated into the clouds, in a moment in time to join the Lord in the air.

The Rapture is a signless event that could always have occurred imminently! The signs that we are given in the Bible are that of the Tribulation period which proceeds the Second Coming of Christ. So, with all of these signs even before us NOW - How much closer must the Rapture be!

We believe that the Rapture could take place sometime in the near future! For many reasons - some of which are listed below - we believe that there is a PreTrib Rapture. (i.e; That the Rapture occurs before the beginning of the seven year Tribulation.)

The Tribulation = (aka; Daniel´s 70th week, Time of Jacob´s Trouble... more on this below) officially begins with the ´confirming of a covenant´ between the Antichrist and Israel. Daniel 9:27. We believe the Rapture occurs prior to this event ... Maybe immediately prior - maybe by some distance.

A common assumption is that the Rapture itself "triggers" the start of the Tribulation period ... However, in Daniel we read that the actual trigger is the "confirming of the covenant" itself. So, while it seems logical to believe the two will coincide closely - there may be an lapse of time between the two.

This timing of the Rapture has long been the subject of much debate among Christians. When the Rapture will occur is NOT the most important issue. Knowing Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and being ready WHENEVER it may occur is what is most important.

So, although we do not wish to have any debates with anyone over their Rapture view ... We would like to share with you what we believe and just some of the reasons why. Hopefully at the very least it will give you some food for thought.