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So you want a Revolution!

 
His Royal Dudeness

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Free Market Anarchism
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101681

Cool, I'm big, a trained fighter, and have lots of guns.

I will rule my town with an iron fist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1196058

LOL, theres always someone who has bigger guns.

Free-market anarchism (sometimes called simply market anarchism,[1] and occasionally libertarian anarchism[2] or propertarian anarchism)[3] refers to an individualist anarchist philosophy in which monopoly of force held by government would be replaced by a competitive market of non-monopolistic organizations providing security, justice, and other defense services. A market would exist where providers of security and law compete for voluntarily paying customers that wish to receive the services rather than individuals being taxed without their consent and assigned a monopoly provider of force.[4] The belief, among free-market anarchists, is that this competition thus will tend to produce cheaper and higher-quality legal and police services including "a high-quality good of impartial, efficient umpiring of conflicting rights claims".[5]
The term describes the type of anarchy proposed by anarcho-capitalism and the philosophies that prefigurated it.[3] In this sense, notable proponents of free-market anarchism include Benjamin Tucker,[6] Lysander Spooner,[7] Murray Rothbard[8] and David D. Friedman.[1] Free-market anarchism has been traced as far back as the 1840s, as conceived by individuals such as Julius Faucher and Gustave de Molinari.[9][10]
 Quoting: His Royal Dudeness

Yeah, mercenaries. Great plan.
I can pay the local MS-13 chapter protection money right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1196058

Might work.

Better than the system we have now which completely EMPOWERS MS13.
My metaphors are dirty like herpes except they're harder to catch.

"Then we MK ULTRA the little midget offspring, and math the fuck out of them. We can drop them back into China via parachute, and bring the country to a standstill."

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:chirp chirp:
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Free Market Anarchism
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101681

Cool, I'm big, a trained fighter, and have lots of guns.

I will rule my town with an iron fist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1196058

Your arrogance and ignorance will be your worst enemy
Nikki_LaVey  (OP)

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My most important job is the safety of my family.

Without my family I have no reason to live.

You might not understand that.

I have taught my children how to survive just as my parents taught me.

I oldest daughter started primitive camping at one month old.
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Nikki_LaVey  (OP)

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:chirp chirp:
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Free Market Anarchism
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101681

Cool, I'm big, a trained fighter, and have lots of guns.

I will rule my town with an iron fist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1196058

Your arrogance and ignorance will be your worst enemy
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Yeppers!

This guy thinks his M-4 can stop a tank!
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Nikki_LaVey  (OP)

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01/29/2011 05:34 PM
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None of you jackoffs have a viable plan for after the 'revolution'.
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Thats only one of the big problems with revolution.

In the words of the old rock and roll song:
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..
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Answer : Government reform, finding new ways to rape the working peoples wallets,bank accounts and destroy the Bill of Rights..
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So you prefer Anarchy to reform? Law by the Biggest Gun?
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A better understanding of the concept can be derived from the Greek origins of the word (anarkhos) which meant "without a ruler." It is this definition of the word that members of the political power structure (i.e., your "rulers") do not want you to consider. Far better that you fear the hidden monsters and hobgoblins who are just waiting to bring terror and havoc to your lives should efforts to increase police powers or budgets fail.

Are there murderers, kidnappers, rapists, and arsonists in our world? Of course there are, and there will always be, and they do not all work for the state. It is amazing that, with all the powers and money conferred upon the state to "protect" us from such threats, they continue to occur with a regularity that seems to have increased with the size of government!

Nor can we ignore the history of the state in visiting upon humanity the very death and destruction that its defenders insist upon as a rationale for political power. Those who condemn anarchy should engage in some quantitative analysis. In the twentieth century alone, governments managed to kill — through wars, genocides, and other deadly practices — some 200,000,000 men, women, and children. How many people were killed by anarchists during this period? Governments, not anarchists, have been the deadly "bomb-throwers" of human history!
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And if you revolt you will end up personally adding to that 200,000,000.

Yes there are monsters in this world but war brings the worse in humans and anyone can become one of these monsters.

The Germans that ran the death camps were average people before the war.
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the state has the machinery to kill more on a larger scale than individuals.
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the gadsen flag says it all for me. don't mess with me i won't mess with you.
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So you prefer Anarchy to reform? Law by the Biggest Gun?
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A better understanding of the concept can be derived from the Greek origins of the word (anarkhos) which meant "without a ruler." It is this definition of the word that members of the political power structure (i.e., your "rulers") do not want you to consider. Far better that you fear the hidden monsters and hobgoblins who are just waiting to bring terror and havoc to your lives should efforts to increase police powers or budgets fail.

Are there murderers, kidnappers, rapists, and arsonists in our world? Of course there are, and there will always be, and they do not all work for the state. It is amazing that, with all the powers and money conferred upon the state to "protect" us from such threats, they continue to occur with a regularity that seems to have increased with the size of government!

Nor can we ignore the history of the state in visiting upon humanity the very death and destruction that its defenders insist upon as a rationale for political power. Those who condemn anarchy should engage in some quantitative analysis. In the twentieth century alone, governments managed to kill — through wars, genocides, and other deadly practices — some 200,000,000 men, women, and children. How many people were killed by anarchists during this period? Governments, not anarchists, have been the deadly "bomb-throwers" of human history!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101681


And if you revolt you will end up personally adding to that 200,000,000.

Yes there are monsters in this world but war brings the worse in humans and anyone can become one of these monsters.

The Germans that ran the death camps were average people before the war.
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the state has the machinery to kill more on a larger scale than individuals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101681


And they will use that on the revolutionaries!
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Nikki_LaVey  (OP)

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Trauma haunts children in war zones
By Mark Weisenmiller
Updated May 31, 2007 - 10:48:00 PM


TAMPA, Florida (IPS/GIN) - Children in war zones and very impoverished regions often struggle with severe emotional trauma. Despite the UN’s ongoing efforts to reach out to them and their families, their plight remains largely hidden from the global public.
Amanda Melville, a UNICEF child protection officer whose background is in social psychology, said there are no figures on how many such children now exist in the world “because it’s very subjective.”

Ms. Melville, has been doing field work for UNICEF for the past six years in places including Haiti, Indonesia, Iran and Palestine. Speaking from experience, she said the reactions of children in war zones can vary widely.

“Psychologically, they can be withdrawn, while some will be rebellious,” she said. “Some boys are forced to become the head of the family because the father has been killed, and these boys don’t have the maturity.”

UNICEF notes that, “Children in armed conflict also routinely experience emotionally and psychologically painful events such as the violent death of a parent or close relative; separation from family; witnessing loved ones being killed or tortured; displacement from home and community; exposure to combat, shelling, and other life-threatening situations; acts of abuse such as being abducted, arrested, held in detention, raped, tortured; disruption of school routines and community life; destitution; and an uncertain future.”

[link to www.finalcall.com]
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01/29/2011 06:02 PM
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I know! I have seen fist hand children in War Zones an the Images never leave my mind. I don' want my children to be like that!
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Oh good grief, was I the only one to catch the unintentional (or maybe intentional) slip in this response?
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I know! I have seen fist hand children in War Zones an the Images never leave my mind. I don' want my children to be like that!
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey



Oh good grief, was I the only one to catch the unintentional (or maybe intentional) slip in this response?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1098949


It was just a typo.
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No, I don't. It would be the end of the USA. Who knows how many would die in the ensuing anarchy, and we'd probably end up with worse leaders filling the power vacuum. I much prefer reform.
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Revolutions rarely end well for the civilians.
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The only reason America exists is because of revolution. I have an 8 yr old daughter and it stresses me to no end that she has to live in a world where 90% of the worlds wealth is in the hands of such a small amount egomaniacal elitists. We are ruled by callous facists who care for nothing other than profit and power. Our earth only has a finite amount of resources and it will not last. Relying on scarcity and infinite resources the global monetary system is fundamentally doomed. Things cannot go on this way or all our children will be doomed to a worse fate anyway.
Who cares if BILLIONS people have nothing and are hungry. Think of the few who have lots.
I cry for all our children.
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None of you jackoffs have a viable plan for after the 'revolution'.
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Pizza and beer?
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No, I don't. It would be the end of the USA. Who knows how many would die in the ensuing anarchy, and we'd probably end up with worse leaders filling the power vacuum. I much prefer reform.
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Revolutions rarely end well for the civilians.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


The only reason America exists is because of revolution. I have an 8 yr old daughter and it stresses me to no end that she has to live in a world where 90% of the worlds wealth is in the hands of such a small amount egomaniacal elitists. We are ruled by callous facists who care for nothing other than profit and power. Our earth only has a finite amount of resources and it will not last. Relying on scarcity and infinite resources the global monetary system is fundamentally doomed. Things cannot go on this way or all our children will be doomed to a worse fate anyway.
Who cares if BILLIONS people have nothing and are hungry. Think of the few who have lots.
I cry for all our children.
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My Children and I help to feed the poor in our area.
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Just imagine for a moment if you can: A matriarchal world where hostilities passive-aggressively simmer just below the surface, decisions are all made by a committee, and all important [and trivial] decisions must be in the best interests of 'The Children'
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Now that sounds fine to me.
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Just imagine for a moment if you can: A matriarchal world where hostilities passive-aggressively simmer just below the surface, decisions are all made by a committee, and all important [and trivial] decisions must be in the best interests of 'The Children'
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Now that sounds fine to me.
 Quoting: ElusivePisces 772218


Imagine if we spent the money we waste on war for education and health.
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Just imagine for a moment if you can: A matriarchal world where hostilities passive-aggressively simmer just below the surface, decisions are all made by a committee, and all important [and trivial] decisions must be in the best interests of 'The Children'
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Now that sounds fine to me.
 Quoting: ElusivePisces 772218


Imagine if we spent the money we waste on war for education and health.
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


If we cut out war funding, there'll be no more fun. Party pooper.
Pearl Harbor was an inside job.
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Just imagine for a moment if you can: A matriarchal world where hostilities passive-aggressively simmer just below the surface, decisions are all made by a committee, and all important [and trivial] decisions must be in the best interests of 'The Children'
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Now that sounds fine to me.
 Quoting: ElusivePisces 772218


Imagine if we spent the money we waste on war for education and health.
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If we cut out war funding, there'll be no more fun. Party pooper.
 Quoting: CrazyJarhead


Only an Idiot that has never seen war would say it is fun!
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You dont make any sense OP. The U.S. deposited the DU there in the middle east with its Imperial expansion. Your tax dollars are paying for it. So its your fault that these kids are dying in the middle east. You OP, the blame lays at your feet. So WTF are you gonna do about it?
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I know! I have seen fist hand children in War Zones an the Images never leave my mind. I don' want my children to be like that!
 Quoting: Nikki_LaVey


So instead children should be given the same options as us? To live a lie that perpetuates misery and violence or sit online hours at a time on a messageboard full of nutjobs to try and find some sense of truth while the world turns to ruins. Yeah, thats a much better option.

I'd rather my kids have a chance at being human than to have to grow up in this warped sense of reality. I'd rather be able to tell them that everything is going to be okay and mean it. I'd rather teach them they don't have to be subservant little thoughtless drones.





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