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Well...It's not like I haven't been trying to figure out who I am and and what this is all about, ect, ect...but what's interesting is that before I got on glp I was thinking to myself while I was in the shower, "what if you found out you were god" What do you do with that? (seriously) I dunno...nothing special really ever happened to prove to me this is true and I am well aware of the ideologies surrounding this philosophy and all the new age mumbo jumbo and theosophical/esoteric teachings. Maybe time will tell if any of this is true. If god is the source of all then like a hologram right, we are all reflections of the whole...? The key is belief/observation and perception among countless other things but primarily I think that these are very important for understanding...God, please give me wisdom regarding this issue and let me know the truth...I have been searching for some time-well, it seems that way anyway
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The biggest problem with all of this is that we try to avoid as much as possible the lingering sense of responsibility that god- realization can bring. Once you know you are God, you're fucked, because now you have to assume responsibility for literally everything you do, think and choose. You become the prime authority of your life events. You can't move a finger without first making the conscious decision to initiate the motion. You have to take initiative for everything, otherwise you're just lying to yourself . Once you learn the Truth, you cannot "unlearn" it.

It's really a maturing process. until you can actually internalize all the responsibility that this knowledge can bring, you will avoid thinking about it as much as possible; you will seek all kinds of alternate belief systems that reinforce the notion that you are less than God. They will all tell you to "leave it for [insert deity or abstract force here] to act / decide in your place." Truth is that we simply want to believe in that which is easier and more comfortable to us.

How many times the thought that maybe "it all comes down to me -- I am the god of my universe" passed through my mind... but I just kept pushing it aside in favor of some other theory that involved my subjugation to some abstract force "out there". I just didn't want to accept personal responsibility for literally everything. The average person wants to believe that whatever happens in their lives is the result of abstract forces beyond their control, because at least they don't have to worry about who or what initiated the process. This actually makes the job of living / existing easier for the individual, because in this manner he only needs to react to the problems somehow "appearing" in his life, but at the same time he loses his ability to ACT and thus actually prevent personal problems from being created in the first place.

My advice is : try to minimize belief and increase observation.

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Well...It's not like I haven't been trying to figure out who I am and and what this is all about, ect, ect...but what's interesting is that before I got on glp I was thinking to myself while I was in the shower, "what if you found out you were god" What do you do with that? (seriously) I dunno...nothing special really ever happened to prove to me this is true and I am well aware of the ideologies surrounding this philosophy and all the new age mumbo jumbo and theosophical/esoteric teachings. Maybe time will tell if any of this is true. If god is the source of all then like a hologram right, we are all reflections of the whole...? The key is belief/observation and perception among countless other things but primarily I think that these are very important for understanding...God, please give me wisdom regarding this issue and let me know the truth...I have been searching for some time-well, it seems that way anyway
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The biggest problem with all of this is that we try to avoid as much as possible the lingering sense of responsibility that god- realization can bring. Once you know you are God, you're fucked, because now you have to assume responsibility for literally everything you do, think and choose. You become the prime authority of your life events. You can't move a finger without first making the conscious decision to initiate the motion. You have to take initiative for everything, otherwise you're just lying to yourself . Once you learn the Truth, you cannot "unlearn" it.

It's really a maturing process. until you can actually internalize all the responsibility that this knowledge can bring, you will avoid thinking about it as much as possible; you will seek all kinds of alternate belief systems that reinforce the notion that you are less than God. They will all tell you to "leave it for [insert deity or abstract force here] to act in your place." Truth is that we simply want to believe in that which is easier and more comfortable to us.

How many times the thought that maybe "it all comes down to me -- I am the god of my universe" passed through my mind... but I just kept pushing it aside in favor of some other theory that involved my subjugation to some abstract force "out there". I just didn't want to accept personal responsibility for literally everything. The average person wants to believe that whatever happens in their lives is the result of abstract forces beyond their control, because at least they don't have to worry about who or what initiated the process. This actually makes the job of living / existing easier for the individual, because in this manner he only needs to react to the problems somehow "appearing" in his life, but at the same time he loses his ability to ACT and thus actually prevent personal problems from being created in the first place.

My advice is : try to minimize belief and increase observation.
 Quoting: gus.

Interesting thoughts...there is good advice in this, thank you for your reply. I am going to just keep seeking truth as I have been doing, the realization/truth concerning these things is bound to come to me sooner or later. I am an information junkie so it shouldn't take too long(hope not)
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Not sure if you're aware, but the whole holographic principle of "every part contains the whole" isn't entirely accurate. It's true that if you take a small piece of the plate on which the signal beam records the object interference pattern, yes you can produce the entire hologram that the full pattern would. BUT it will not be a perfect reflection of it... always it will be fuzzy and a little unclear.
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I AM That I AM- It's Truth

I AM THAT I AM is the Father's way of saying that which I AM is self and that which I AM is the soul. The I AM presence within each who bears the Father fragment represents your God identity.

It is a title that you inherited upon your soul's creation. With every incarnation you are meant to progress in your ability to find the I AM within and effort to be that presence. I AM That I AM for you ones mean that which I am is the soul and that which I am is God. After all were you not created through the light of His thinking? He merely divided himself in parts that those various parts may experience the realms of time and space away form Him but not without Him. This brief journey of the soul was meant to enrich the Father through its experiences and enable the soul through its incarnations to reconnect with its Father Fragment and make its way back home

If you were to explain this phrase or title to one who has little spiritual understanding of his origin, you may be accused of indulging in arrogant conjecture to think yourself so worthy or supreme that you dare assume the title preserved only for the most high.


The truth is that these ones live in the downs of ignorance and deprive themselves of the enlightened vision of who they truly are. Subconsciously they also reject it as they are not yet prepared to rise to the ethos associated and born of that title. The cell memories of their God minds remain dormant as they become subjects of an earthly physical conditioning in abstinence of spiritual fortitude conferred by that subtle yet empowered presence within.

The I AM is real for those who can feel its presence palpably within. The I AM is your vibrancy, your passion, your truth. It is who you are. It takes great effort and discipline to access the delights of your powerful soul that you may be able to propel yourself in the presence of the I AM. Affirming that you are the I AM is in a manner one way of conditioning your psyche to accept your true being. The more you warrant that affirmation, the greater the probability that you will behave in a way reflective of that presence.

I wish to make it abundantly clear however that saying it and stating it is insufficient if you do not believe it, for belief is the power which manifests its workings. Yet saying it and stating and believing it still falls short of its true value and worth, for you will only reap and know its worth when you can discipline yourself through effort to explore its different facets so that you may know the I AM and begin in earnest to align yourself with its virtues and qualities.

I AM THAT I AM should be a motto, an insignia that man in the new world uses as an affirmation of identity and his spiritual strivings. The Father has bestowed this gift upon you, how will you thank him for this? I humbly suggest that you use it with humility yet spiritual pride and consciousness. The Father has said that He is but you grown in wisdom and presence. Allow this motto to be your vehicle that you may journey, knowing who you are, back to You. In so doing you shall find God.

The difficulty in your world is that separation centres all things for there is a human need for division within the mass consciousness, that man may be ranked hierarchically. The man who stands at the base can seldom feel or experience his sovereignty because there is always someone above who seeks to discriminate or define who his. Those who find themselves or place themselves in the higher echelons convey a self imposed supremacy defined by man-created laws and expectations. The divide is well and truly conditioned in man's thinking and in these limiting circumstances man is unable to breach the barriers of human creations so as to discover offerings of higher truth.

The religions of your world have further entrenched man in the false thinking that God is separate from man and must be seen as an entity so far removed that obeisance and praise must be rendered if man is to ever have hope for salvation. How can man in this cloistered environment think for himself and come to a greater understanding that He and the Father by whatever name is One and the same. He is merely experiencing life away from home for a short time. It is his experiences that will lead him back home to the Source if he is able to find himself in the rubble of his earthly physical existence.

I am here to tell you that the I AM is your salvation, your saviour, your wealth, your guru, your messenger, your counsellor, your constant companion, your creativity, your beauty and essence. Do not reject who you truly are because you disbelieve the eminence of you and your true worth. Allow the motto IAM THAT I AM to define you, to be you in every sense of its meaning.

For those who use I AM THAT I AM, you must lean to feel its divine presence move within. You must give the I AM control over every thought and action. You must be aligned with its virtues and eternal nature. I AM THAT I AM is your cosmic self not your mortal self. The goal is that as you wear the uniform of humanness you must find the I AM and live the I AM until your human existence merges with cosmic awareness that your life on earth becomes a life of spirit and all that is of spirit influences and persuades your actions. Your ascension will be in the measure that you find, know and live the I AM presence.


I AM THAT I AM
For I am You and I am Me
You are You and You are Me
No boundaries can divide
The singleness of One
You are an expression of the One
The consciousness of the One
The unbridled power of the One


I AM THAT I AM
The valour of you
The identity of me
The knowing of you
The loving of me
I AM THAT I AM
We.


I AM THAT I AM



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YOU'RE A FOOL, IF WE WERE GOD WE WOULD HAVE ALL THE UNDERSTANDINGS OF THE UNIVERSE WITHOUT A DOUBT.

GET OVER YOURSELF, I USE TO THINK THIS TOO.
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AN INTERVAL OF NON-TIME


When the universe reaches a point of maximum expansion, a unique phenomenon will take place.

There will be a moment when all laws necessary for the creative maintenance of physical matter and all materializing processes become suspended.

Due to the relative velocities of the various star systems. this event will not be experienced simultaneously in all parts of the universe, but will travel as a wave across the sea of creation.


Existing within this ripple of non-time will be the focused conscious attention of the Creator.

As it passes through the material realms, it will stay and take up residence in all life forms with circuitry capable of mirroring its essence.

This is the moment when the Creator will slip inside Creation; the moment for which we are attempting to prepare you.


This is the much misunderstood “Second Coming of Christianity”.

It is the event that primitive civilizations have looked forward to as “the return of the gods”.

The Mayans went so far as to pinpoint its actual occurrence in what you would call the year 2011 A.D.

Yet while many of your traditions hint at what is about to transpire, none of them have adequately conveyed the magnitude of impact such an event will have.

Indeed, no single conceptual structure is capable of conveying the enormity of what is soon to take place.


Those familiar with the scriptures of your various peoples should be in position to understand what is occurring for these are the times spoken of.

Yet you must realize that God did not invent the words used in scripture.

He merely arranged them In the order most approximating His meaning.

Further, He only presented them in mental pictures and through the years of translation and deliberate tampering most meaning is distorted and damaged.


What is actually happening requires all of biological life to convey its meaning.


Words can symbolize this but hardly portray it fully enough to stand alone.

If you would know the deepest Truth of scripture, look not to words alone but to the great momentum of spirit within your own soul.

This is where the living history is being made.

In a way that would be impossible for your rational intellect to comprehend, this forthcoming event is human history.

The sum total of all that has happened on your planet is but the shadow cast before.



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A fool such as this will say that he is a god with his tongue and with a boasting mouth.

But can he cure himself of his own sickness?
Can he even make bread from the dust to feed himself?

These are the words of a fool, who would speak that he is a god and love his own speech so much as to believe it.

I would call anyone with this kind of a mentality a certified pscyho.


Let's settle this for once and for all..

YOU ARE GOD

(I'm not. I'm just a nobody. [Note: God is also a nobody.])

By the holographic principle, you are the Creator because every infinitesimal part of Him is also Him in full. Every part is the whole.

By the philosophical soliptic principle, only the self exists. That only God exists is also true. So who exactly is God?

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Spiritual enlightenment is all about finding oneness with God. That also means oneness of identities. Who are you? Who is God? Both of these questions share the same answer: silent contemplation. So maybe it's the same question being asked twice...

Your spiritual nature and "God" are the SAME THING.

It should be noted that there are profound cultural and religious taboos against God-Realization. Simply put, these stem from the misconception of God as "Creator", rather than God as "Source". In the former view, anyone who says "I Am God" is committing sacrilege, because built into the viewpoint is an unbridgeable gap between Creator and creature. Even mystics speaking of "communion with God" has been risky business throughout the course of the Great Tradition, but most of them survived that confession without torture or excommunication for heresy, and a few were even officially recognized as saints.

The truth of Christianity is Non-separateness, but It is expressed and made unavailable in a theology that necessarily has two exclusive terms: God (or the Trinity) and creature. Thus, even the mysticism of Christianity is a profession allowed to but a cloistered few, whose expressions are carefully monitored. And the mystics become doubtful to the church when they speak of non-separation from God.

Avatar Adi Da Samraj, The Knee Of Listening

It's worth considering for a moment the common uses of the word, "realization". Two common uses are worth looking at.

uses of the word "realization":

The first use is defined by the dictionary as "bringing into concrete existence". "She realized her goal of earning a million dollars" is an example.

A second use is as a reference to a mental insight of some kind, often sudden in nature: “He suddenly realized that he had left his hat in the car.”

The sense in which we are using "Spiritual Realization" has something in common with both these senses, but also cannot be reduced to either. Spiritual Realization is very "concrete" in the sense that it is a fundamental, permanent, and tangible shift in one's sense of Reality. But unlike the "million dollar" example, what is Realized is not something that wasn't the case before; rather, like the "hat in the car" example, what is Realized was (and is) already the case. Spiritual Realization is more like awakening, like opening the eyes, than like achieving a goal.

Reality is always already the case. But "Reality Itself is no small matter!", Avatar Adi Da Samraj has quipped. And "Realizing Reality" is by no means some kind of merely mental insight, or mental shift in viewpoint, because Spiritual Reality is not merely mental. As we will see, the actual Spiritual process even requires a profound conversion of the entire body-mind, even at the physical, cellular level:

Divine Enlightenment is a literal change of the whole body. When you have acquired the human form, the literal change that must occur in the body is not really so much in your outward appearance, because you already have the necessary structure. The changes that must occur are literal psycho-physical changes, just as literal as if you were to acquire more legs and arms, except that the most dramatic changes occur in dimensions other than the shape of the body. Certainly changes occur in the flesh and the elemental structures of the body, but those changes do not really alter the body's outward shape. The changes are as literal as evolving from a dinosaur to a human being, and they are as dramatic as that, but they principally occur at more subtle levels of the physics of the conditional being. There are literal changes in the nervous system, literal changes in the chemistry of the body, literal changes in the structural functioning of the brain.

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2. God-Realization involves a series of permanent shifts in identity until the Ultimate Divine Identity is Realized

The shift in Realization from the sense of reality as a God-less universe to one in which one is standing as the Divine Being is an extraordinary one. And so the Ultimate Realization is not likely to happen overnight, nor even in a single Realization. Instead, a progression of Realizations typify the Way. And at the core of these Realizations is a shift in Identity. Avatar Adi Da Samraj often refers to a particular quote by the Indian Master Shankara, because it nicely summarizes these shifts (and the change that spiritual practice undergoes as well):

In [the] tradition of Advaita Vedanta, there is a very interesting summary statement, associated with Shankara, of devotion to the Divine: 'From the point of view of the body, I am Your servant. From the point of view of the mind, I am a part of You, a fraction within You. From the point of view of the Self, truly, I am You. Any statement of equation with the Divine is authentic only from the "Point of View" of Ultimate Realization. Yet identified with the body, or, even more advanced, identified with the mind, subtly as Yogis are . . . from the point of view of such identification, the great statements are not true, the statement 'I am You', or, said another way, 'Thou art That', is not true. Identified with the body you are the servant of God, subordinate to the Divine. From the point of view of the mind, you are not the Divine. You are a part of the Great Unity, seeking Union with the Great Unity, or That Which is One. Therefore, previous to Ultimate Realization, the philosophy, the philosophical point of view, the presumption, must acknowledge the position you are in, acknowledge what you are identified with.

Avatar Adi Da Samraj

Thus, the growth in Realization, the increasing depth of Realization, will generally proceed through the following sequence of Realizations:

1. I am the physical body in a still, often, apparently God-less, materialistic universe, the universe of my physical senses. But I now have sufficient human maturity, and have been sufficiently Graced with the Revelation of God (through my Spiritual Master's Transmission), that I am now aware that the degree to which I am not feeling God for Real on any regular basis is not evidence that God doesn't exist. Rather it is an exact reflection of the amount of counter-egoic (even bodily) work that is required of me in order for the "vision of God" to be restored as my ordinary Realization in every moment.


2. I am the physical body, but now tangibly aware of the Divine Presence, thanks to the unrelenting Transmission of my Divinely Realized Spiritual Master. I am now rightly practicing as the 'servant' of God, conforming the body-mind to better serve as a vehicle that conducts the force and Presence of the Divine. The core of my practice is conscious absorption in You, conscious surrender of all my (otherwise unconsciously self-contracted, self-absorbed) parts — mind, body, emotion, and breath — so that they are absorbed in You. I am fulfilling what was for Hamlet only a yearning:

O, that this too too solid flesh would melt, thaw and resolve itself into a dew!

Shakespeare, Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 2


3. I am spirit or energy. The physical body is spirit or energy. The entire cosmos is spirit or energy. E = mC2, but I am now directly aware of the equation of matter and energy as my actual experience. I have "lived to God" long and deeply enough that a fundamental, even physical conversion has occurred in the body-mind. What I am is not fundamentally that which dies when the physical body dies; I am most primarily the "mind" (or “soul”) part of the body-mind, which survives the death of the more superficial "body" part. Thus I have been set free of my mortal fear. I am now directly aware that "I am a part of You", and what I used to have to even muscularly feel through to You, my physicality, has now been transformed to become as if transparent (to feeling). My practice continues to be absorption in You through contemplation of You in the form of my Spiritual Master, but it is now easier and more profound.


4. I am Consciousness. Even “soul” is understood to be a limit — like the physical body, it too is not immortal, but rather, a passing thing. The entire body-mind complex, body and soul, has been brought into a profound equilibrium through steady, prolonged absorption in You, and the moment Gracefully occurs when the self-contraction is relaxed even beyond any identification with the body-mind. I suddenly discover: "I am You". What I am, most primally, is neither matter nor energy, but simply Consciousness Itself. You are my True Self, only appearing in the apparent human and Spiritual guise of my Master for the sake of bringing about this Realization of Identification with You. My practice has shifted from communion with and absorption in You, to Identification with You. Even so, there still appears to be a "difference" between Consciousness and the universe of arising phenomena.

5. There Is Only God. The Great and Ultimate Realization, Divine Enlightenment, has occurred. I have completely Awakened. I am Consciousness, but there is not the slightest difference between Me and anything. All beings and worlds are arising in Me. Everything is directly tacitly recognizable as a modification of My Own Consciousness. I am Perfectly Eternally Free. I am Perfectly Eternally Happy. Paradoxically, I may still be associated with My human body for the span of its years, and thus may serve as an Instrument of Realization for all beings who still suffer the illusion and activity of separateness, effortlessly and continuously transmitting this Revelation of God to all other beings.

[note: according to my own ideas, "I am god" and "there is only god" are equivalent statements. it only makes a semantic difference when you think that you are god and that other things or beings aren't god -- that's an ego trip.]


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Essentially, what you are on a spiritual level is the god of your own dreamed up universe. You are already an infinite being with infinite power to alter / manipulate reality as you wish. You are your own god. It just happens that you may be suffering from amnesia of this fact that impairs your ability to access the full extent of your power, but at the same time you can learn virtues that do not come when whatever you think of manifests itself without delay or resistance. In a spiritual reality only, as soon as you want it, you have it. But with the presence of a physical universe, it offers a challenge on this aspect. If you cannot grasp this where you are now, just know that in higher densities of existence, where reality is more malleable and hence less bound by physical rules, the truth of who you are would be better reflected by the world around you. You would experience less disconnection (latency) between thought and manifestation.
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AN INTERVAL OF NON-TIME


When the universe reaches a point of maximum expansion, a unique phenomenon will take place.

There will be a moment when all laws necessary for the creative maintenance of physical matter and all materializing processes become suspended.

Due to the relative velocities of the various star systems. this event will not be experienced simultaneously in all parts of the universe, but will travel as a wave across the sea of creation.


Existing within this ripple of non-time will be the focused conscious attention of the Creator.

As it passes through the material realms, it will stay and take up residence in all life forms with circuitry capable of mirroring its essence.

This is the moment when the Creator will slip inside Creation; the moment for which we are attempting to prepare you.


This is the much misunderstood “Second Coming of Christianity”.

It is the event that primitive civilizations have looked forward to as “the return of the gods”.

The Mayans went so far as to pinpoint its actual occurrence in what you would call the year 2011 A.D.

Yet while many of your traditions hint at what is about to transpire, none of them have adequately conveyed the magnitude of impact such an event will have.

Indeed, no single conceptual structure is capable of conveying the enormity of what is soon to take place.


Those familiar with the scriptures of your various peoples should be in position to understand what is occurring for these are the times spoken of.

Yet you must realize that God did not invent the words used in scripture.

He merely arranged them In the order most approximating His meaning.

Further, He only presented them in mental pictures and through the years of translation and deliberate tampering most meaning is distorted and damaged.


What is actually happening requires all of biological life to convey its meaning.


Words can symbolize this but hardly portray it fully enough to stand alone.

If you would know the deepest Truth of scripture, look not to words alone but to the great momentum of spirit within your own soul.

This is where the living history is being made.

In a way that would be impossible for your rational intellect to comprehend, this forthcoming event is human history.

The sum total of all that has happened on your planet is but the shadow cast before.



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Problem with your reasoning here is that what you are (physically) describing actually happens every 10^-43 second.
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Not sure if you're aware, but the whole holographic principle of "every part contains the whole" isn't entirely accurate. It's true that if you take a small piece of the plate on which the signal beam records the object interference pattern, yes you can produce the entire hologram that the full pattern would. BUT it will not be a perfect reflection of it... always it will be fuzzy and a little unclear.
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I'm aware of it. There are degrees of God's manifestation. Some are imperfect, others are closer to his true nature.

That is why I said that the most accurate statement is "you are God" not "we are God".

"Everything is God" is also true, but I would complement with "in varying degrees".

The following is what I wrote for an earlier post:

What I'm saying here is that you're God on the basis of who you ARE, the essence of your being. Your body and several other layers composing your being are not God, they are just extensions / creations.

Everything else is just a manifestation from you, even other persons.

There is no 'we' and so there is no 'we are god'. There is only you, and you are God, period. 'We' is an illusion.

The outer world is a manifestation from God, so it isn't accurate to say that a piece of rock , an animal, or a single person is God. Certainly , God is PRESENT in them, but he is not present as them. It's only you who can fully represent what God is. You're as good as God. Everything and everyone else is an incomplete / imperfect picture, hence not exactly God in his full presence. YOU are GOD only when you can trespass the many layers of false identities that you assume to have for yourself. After you've ripped apart all of them, the only thing that is left is your divine identity -> God. All those layers were NOT God; they just contained TRACES / HINTS of God.

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You are the One and the One is You
Behold I am here with thee in every way. Know that when you seek to connect with me I am already here. I will be your very breath; the very love and joy you feel at the very moment of unification. I ask that you know me of the One mind. Do not look for me in visions or apparitions for I am pure energy.

Treat as thus, as we bring you into a new conditioning- a new frame of thinking and spiritual orientation that requires only the knowing and dealing with spirit that is energy in its purest form.

There is much difficulty associated with the achievement of this thought pattern as your training has caused you to look for things in matter. Allow your desire for Oneness, its experiencing and knowing, guide you into a higher awareness of what that Oneness is, that you may begin to see from within, the primary source as you and you the primary source. It is energy in its purest that must be known, not perceived and it is this very energy that you must move into Oneness with. For in the naturalness of its being will you find what you seek- your presence, your truth, your all.

As the pure energy of spirit unfolds within thee you begin to transcend the inhabited world and journey deeper and deeper into the realm of great familiarity. Light bulbs will blink and then begin to shine, as the inner you, true self, God, begins his descent to direct your thinking. It is only through your allowance, your permission that this magical release takes place.

You will then begin to experience the energetic opening and expansion of thy heart auricle and the transition from self to Oneness begins. The energy within the heart takes on a tubular form almost hose- like and it begins its outpouring of scintillating Love, innocent, pure and whole. It then extends in circular fashion to encompass everyone and everything in your periphery of vision that with certainty, as you enter new segments of inner unfolding and experience, the feeling enhances and a sensation of peace overtakes and pure understanding dawns.

This awakening will sharpen your focus and you begin to relieve yourself more and more of what will now be outdated patterns of behaviour and thinking that the world has imposed upon you. Truly you will begin the transition as you transcend the world as you know it and your perceptions surrounding it. You shall release all judgement as you come to understand that You are ALL.

Through your journey in physical projection you will come to an appreciation that you must master yourself in your world. This however will indeed only be your first conquest; for the self mastery will accord with the knowing of the ONE who you are.

Beloveds this is not a new message or a new concept; just an expression of what we have efforted to teach you ones time and time again, Yet the learning is in the repetition; for many must have multiple experiences before the lessons are learnt. The teaching is always brought in purest love to help you on your journey out of the illusion of the world into the reality of the One that you may come face to face with your power, the very source of infiniteness- YOU.

Love your brothers and sisters, love all life force in your created world for you are but them in another projection and they are but you. To project hatred, anger reviling or condescension towards another is a reflection on you; for your brother is but a mirror of you and you of him. What you do to him you do to yourself.

Dear ones, has it become more apparent that you hurt only you when you hurt another? Let love be your fulcrum, your inspiration, your influence and your purpose. Live the love that you are that all barriers of illusion may become extinct that you see the truth.

You cannot say you know how to love or that you love and then follow that statement with the action, thought or feeling of hatred. God is PURE LOVE. In the seeking of Oneness with God and in the knowing of God as yourself, love is the key that will successfully open the portals that gain you entry to the ecstasy that is God. Love must be manifested in your creations and underlie every response. It is the very breath of life. It is the circle that represents to whole. It is your beginning and your end.

My beloveds you will know when you find yourself in that flow of Oneness as the love will glow from within, and without you will wear that glow as light. Love transforms you into the light that you really are. You will begin to live that which you feel.

Though there appear to be many, your inner thinking and sight will know only One; for your perceptions will gradually disappear and your knowing will replace and the form of light which is spirit, will present itself in all you see.

Do not be impatient for the unfolding; know that the frequency of your desire will determine the measure and timing of the experience. Enjoy the expanded feeling of Oneness as it occurs; for the joy of each moment of expanded awareness is to be treasured.

Greater shifts are currently occurring within many during the period of great awakening. In many this awakening will trigger the consciousness of Oneness and thus will begin another segment of experience towards wholeness.

I speak of these things today for the move towards Oneness is the intention that underscores what you term ascension, being the graduation as a new cycle predominates. You ones must begin to chart the lessons so that mankind will understand in truth his origin and nature. Oneness can only be taught as the reality of God’s kingdom. Each of his own effort and desire must seek it; for only then will the spirit within man begin to work to release the jewels that will in time enable man to experience and BE the ONE.

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BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU TEACH


But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
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YOU'RE A FOOL, IF WE WERE GOD WE WOULD HAVE ALL THE UNDERSTANDINGS OF THE UNIVERSE WITHOUT A DOUBT.

GET OVER YOURSELF, I USE TO THINK THIS TOO.
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I don't subscribe to 'we are god' ideology. Never was it mentioned in my opening post, unless one of the links contains such statement and I missed it.

We are not God.
We are a bunch of fools that's it.

You are God. Save us.

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A fool such as this will say that he is a god with his tongue and with a boasting mouth.

But can he cure himself of his own sickness?
Can he even make bread from the dust to feed himself?

These are the words of a fool, who would speak that he is a god and love his own speech so much as to believe it.

I would call anyone with this kind of a mentality a certified pscyho.

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"A fool who persists in his folly shall become wise."

It took me a long time and a lot of effort to realize my divine identity. What about you?

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The Kingdom of God is within You.
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A fool such as this will say that he is a god with his tongue and with a boasting mouth.

But can he cure himself of his own sickness?
Can he even make bread from the dust to feed himself?

These are the words of a fool, who would speak that he is a god and love his own speech so much as to believe it.

I would call anyone with this kind of a mentality a certified pscyho.

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"A fool who persists in his folly shall become wise."

It took me a long time and a lot of effort to realize my divine identity. What about you?
 Quoting: gus.



A fool who swallows the words of other fools will become twice a fool and be worse off than he started.

For is it not written?

Proverbs 26:1-12

1 Like snow in summer or rain in harvest,
honor is not fitting for a fool.
2 Like a fluttering sparrow or a darting swallow,
an undeserved curse does not come to rest.
3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the donkey,
and a rod for the backs of fools!
4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly,
or you yourself will be just like him.
5 Answer a fool according to his folly,
or he will be wise in his own eyes.
6 Sending a message by the hands of a fool
is like cutting off one’s feet or drinking poison.
7 Like the useless legs of one who is lame
is a proverb in the mouth of a fool.

8 Like tying a stone in a sling
is the giving of honor to a fool.
9 Like a thornbush in a drunkard’s hand
is a proverb in the mouth of a fool.

10 Like an archer who wounds at random
is one who hires a fool or any passer-by.
11 As a dog returns to its vomit,
so fools repeat their folly.
12 Do you see a person wise in their own eyes?
There is more hope for a fool than for them.




Proverbs 28:26
He who trusts in himself is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom is kept safe.
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A fool who swallows the words of other fools will become twice a fool and be worse off than he started.

For is it not written?

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it is written, perhaps by a fool as well?

anyway, pay attention next time: I said that "YOU ARE GOD", not that "I am God" and much less that "I am a god".

You are God.

The last statement ("I am a god") is of a completely different nature, whereas "I am God " is only useful as an internal reminder. A man who boasts that he is God is indeed a fool, as I was once. But it's OK to say "I am God" as long as you remind the person that so is he/she .

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If one "teaches" to the "senses" of man without full intent of moving totally FROM the senses and into Truth of spiritual soul--he is false and you will be trapped in the physical experience because YOU are not your body or your brain--YOU are the MIND-SOUL which is totally non-physical in all projection from onset of seed to return unto the seed. Physicalness is merely a projected manifestation of experience to allow for soul growth. Some of you learn very, very slowly and experience quite heinous perceptions--but it is the way it is. No more and no less.



It is the time of opportunity of a civilization to move as a whole into higher understanding and wondrous experience although not in final perfection for you are still primitive in knowledge. It is also a time of higher beings to integrate and participate for both their own growth AND yours. And, it is a time of very high recognition of many who have returned to walk this blessed planet through a time of birthing. YOU will fit wherever you will fit! That is the portion which is up to you in the choosing. Those who will remain in evil and ignorance are the ones who will decline and denounce the WORD in all instances--they will be left, no more and no less. They have no ability nor wish to find God--ONLY ESCAPE OF RESPONSIBILITY. They will be left to their choices and I believe you will note that it probably will get very "hot" and "miserable" on your place as the Elite evil personages enslave the rest of you. Will you "wish" you had changed? Some--most will simply not even recognize that they had a choice. Is this fair? No, it IS JUST! All ones will have the same OPPORTUNITY TO AVAIL THEM­SELVES OF TRUTH--he who chooses to deny, is getting that which is actually "fair" for he asks to be left alone in his experience. God is not force nor coercion--God is total LOVE, supplier of the WORD, shower of the way--and ALLOWER TO AND OF EXPERIENCE.



Following this, the thrust will be in bringing more enlightenment and assisting with the turn about in scientific knowledge as it is safe for it to be brought unto you. Prior to that massive revelation you must do certain things which will allow continuance of your planet with ability to function--that means that specifically you in America MUST save your nation from Dictatorship and Bank ownership--that means vipers who have stolen it, into and under control. Then you must begin to break the chains of the brainwashing and deliberate destruction of the species by the adversary who has locked you in the pits of hell while playing to your physical "senses" and deadening your spiritual evolvement. Now know, chelas, that he who "dies" in this level of ignorance and delusion is DESTINED TO REPEAT IT IN THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES FOR EACH MUST LEARN THE TRUTH OF GOD AND PURPOSE AND EXPERIENCE OF IMMORTALITY.

False prophets and how do we prove who we are? We do not come to "PROVE" anything unto you. It is time you ask others of the physical plane to PROVE THEMSELVES UNTO YOU! THEN, IT IS TIME YOU PROVE SOMETHING UNTO ME! WHO MIGHT YOU BE? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION OF HIGHER PLACEMENT? WHY SHOULD I DO ANYTHING AT ALL FOR YOU? WHAT HAVE YOU--GIVEN-­THAT MIGHT BE REGIVEN IN GREATNESS? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ANY, SAVE SELF? WHAT HAVE YOU GIVEN OTHERS THAT YOU MIGHT BE REGIVEN IN ABUN­DANCE? YOU CANNOT HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO BE WORTHY OF "PROOF"?. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE IN GREAT INTENT TO BE WORTHY OF RESPONSE? DO YOU RECOGNIZE RESPONSE WHEN YOU RECEIVE IT? DO YOU TURN AWAY FROM THAT WHICH YOU KNOW YOU SHOULD DO IN ORDER TO FIND EXCUSE FOR NOT "GIVING"? SO BE IT FOR THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT SHALL BE USED AT YOUR TRIAL REGARDING YOUR ACTIONS IN THIS PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION.

DID YOU DO ALL YOU COULD IN ACTIONS TO ASSIST YOUR BROTHER FIND HIS WAY? DID YOU REALLY? OR DID YOU DECLINE SELF TO GIVE UNTO ANOTHER? BE VERY CAREFUL HOW YOU ADD INSULT ONTO THE WOUNDED OPEN INJURY. WHEN YOU HAVE GIVEN ALL, THEN, AND ONLY THEN, HAVE YE GIVEN SUFFICIENTLY. THE MOMENT YOU REACH THAT POINT OF THE PENDULUM SWING--THEN AND ONLY THEN, CAN THE MULTIPLIED ABUNDANCE BE REGIVEN UNTO YOU.

I have never left of thee--you have turned from Me to play in your fleshly pleasures and seeking of material gain.



Day unto day I have gone the way before you; night after night have I made the path more clear and strengthened your hearts and offered you wise counsel. I have sent teachers and you have also turned them away and denied them and therefore denied ME. WHAT HAVE YE DONE TO EARN MY GIFTS? 0 MAN--WHAT HAVE YE DONE TO EARN MY GIFTS?

Beloved ones, be warned! The enemy pursueth and plies you with substance and as ye partake, he enters within and takes control of all that is of your physicalness and then shrouds your mind that you are blinded and confused. Evil stalks you as the lion does the sheep--waiting until you are unguarded and reach out for that bait within the sensual trap.

But you can see Me in a twinkling! Ye need not wallow in the mire of the evil entrapment for the heavens shall be opened and you shall discern Me as I am. You shall see the great sights for mankind is omnipotent unto himself--though he knows it not. He is an angel unto himself, unto himself ministering. HOW DO YOU MINISTER TO SELF? The day is coming soon when those who watch faithfully shall see a bright cloud, beginning no bigger than a hand; mark well the parable!...the day will dawn when man shall see a witness unto his waitings in the triumph of his sensings.

There will come the ONE who was not a myth, though all else denied HIM; there is ONE who makes you receivers of miraculous appearing;--who gives you your visionings and your Truth.

That which is of ME is that ONE for whom you wait for He is sent again as graduated messenger and it is within the time of sorting.

Wherein does your seemingly separate identity differ from My own, I, Aton?

Allow your KNOWING to answer you for you have now the information upon which to base your knowledge. You have a Mind which is God's Mind. You have a body which is of exactly the same material as God's body. Your body can have the same perfection as God's body when you put the same perfection of God's balanced thinking into it. Your body has a heartbeat which synchronizes with the heartbeat of God's body. You breathe in and out exactly as His body breathes in and out. Your body differs only from the universal body by what you put into it that you should not put into it. It has been created out of Light by dividing it into light-waves just as God's body has been created. It lives and dies just as every other unit of God's body lives and dies. God created His body by His balanced thinking. If you create your body and your identity with My (God's) balanced thinking, you can say: What God is, I AM. "MY FATHER AND I ARE ONE." YOU ARE NOT ALONE--FOR YOU ARE THE UNIVERSE IN WHICH I AM.

I AM THE CAUSE--YOU ARE THE EFFECT. WHAT HAVE YOU EFFECTED TO BE WORTHY? SO BE IT!

I EXPERIENCE WITHIN YOUR KINGDOM OF ACTION AND EFFECT AS YOU TAKE "ACTION" IN YOUR PERCEPTIONS-­BUT--YOU CAN ONLY ENTER INTO MY HIGHER PLACES THROUGH THE LAWS, BALANCE AND HARMONY GIVEN FOR YOUR GUIDELINES. WE BOTH HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE UNIVERSE TO COME INTO THIS WISDOM OF TRUTH.

I AM THAT YE MIGHT BE--I AM GOD, WHO MIGHT YE BE?




ATON
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good thread
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we were made in the image of god... but we are not god.
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And that's why we alienate each other with different religions and kill one another. My GOD is better than your GOD!
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S4.V157,158 "And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise."
S19.V88 to 93 "And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son.You have done an atrocious thing.The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation that they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant."
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Originally, Neo was a nobody until he trusted in the unknown and went with it. This implies that anyone can be Neo.
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I've gotta be honest, I think you know
We're covered in lies and that's okay
And there's somewhere beyond this, I know
But I hope I can find the words to say

Never again, no
No, never again

'Cause you're a god
And I am not
And I just thought
That you would know

You're a god
And I am not
And I just thought
I'd let you go

But I've been unable to put you down
I'm still learning things I ought to know by now
It's under the table, so
And I need something more to show, somehow

So, never again, no
No, never again

'Cause you're a god
And I am not
And I just thought
[ From : [link to www.elyrics.net] ]
That you would know

You're a god
And I am not
And I just thought
I'd let you go

I've gotta be honest, I think you know
We're covered in lies and that's okay
And there's somewhere beyond this, I know
I hope I can find the words to say

Never again, no
No, never again

'Cause you're a god
And I am not
And I just thought
That you would know

You're a god
And I am not
And I just thought
I'd let you go

You're a god
(Oh, and I am not)
I just thought that you would know
(Oh, I thought that you would know)

You're a god
(Oh, and I am not)
I just thought
I'd let you go
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OP says: "You are God"

Satan said: "You can be as God!"

God said: "I am the Lord God. There is no other."


Sooo... Let's see. Do I believe some clown on GLP?

Do I believe the devil himself?

Or... Do I believe the Creator of the universe?


That's a tough one.
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OP says: "You are God"

Satan said: "You can be as God!"

God said: "I am the Lord God. There is no other."


Sooo... Let's see. Do I believe some clown on GLP?

Do I believe the devil himself?

Or... Do I believe the Creator of the universe?


That's a tough one.
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how about ditching out "belief" and going after some real knowledge for a change?

this is only information. whether you believe in it or not is not my business.

however, I've been thinking lately and by simple common sense you can reach the same conclusion as I have... It's pure logic: all the problems that you have to face in your life are there simply because you have failed to take responsibility for some aspect of your daily life. For example: suppose that one day your food is poisoned -- well that's only because you didn't choose the soil, you didn't grow it yourself, you didn't harvest it yourself, you didn't prepare it your self, and so on... Thus, imagine that you could perform everything for yourself without any sort of outside help: no authorities, no wife/family, no public services, no gods to ask/pray to; that is, no external forces of any kind. Only then would you be at peace. Only then would everything run perfectly smooth in your life.

Do you understand? As a man, the only logical mindset to have at any moment is the one in which you take responsibility for EVERYTHING in your universe. Hence, you are God. Anything less than INFINITE responsibility means that you are looking for a way to take responsibility off your shoulders and delegate it to an outside entity of your choice. If that is the case, then remember to NEVER complain if something goes wrong in your life -- it's the entity's fault, isn't it?

YOu are the only single force that can do something about your life -- all the rest is just an illusion designed to alleviate responsibility from your shoulders. It's designed to keep you in the dark and dependent of external forces.

Everytime that you depend on some kind of external 'helper' entity to manage your life, you will be let down sooner or later. It's only a matter of TIME. Every single person and every single entity that you trust in, will eventually let you down. This is by design... It won't be their intention, but they will. The only one you must trust/believe in with all your might is your self. If you don't believe in yourself you are doomed to failure not mattering how many hands are there to lift you up.

IF GOD existed outside of who you are, and if HE was a benevolent god, then why does HE continue to ignore your callings for help? Well, I know why: Because GOD only helps you when you are honest with yourself: every time that you ask for HIS help you are implying that you aren't 100% responsible for the creation of that problem in your life, hence the most benevolent act that God can do is IGNORE your request and leave you to suffer your own self-created consequences -- "enjoy it sucker, bwahhahah". But when you finally understand that you are GOD -- the same entity you've been praying/asking for help all this time -- then you'll finally wake up from a passive mindset to an active one, that is, one that doesn't need to ASK anyone for permission or help.

People of a WEAK mindset tend to believe in abstract external forces that are somehow running their lives from a backstage reality.. They are unwilling to take full responsibility for their own lives: their own acts and consequences... Therefore, they will surrender personal power, self-control and self-responsibility to outside authorities; they will elect officials and governments, they will seek partnerships with other weak people, they will enter communities and groups -- all of this with the goal of eliminating the burden of being an individual who is destined to become the god of his life...

The price of freedom my friend, is infinite responsibility. As long as you are unwilling to take 100% responsibility for your life, you will not know what is genuine freedom.

The primary reason why individuals create a political or religious structure is a subconscious wish or desire to perpetuate their own dependency relationship of childhood. Simply put, they want human gods and abstract gods to eliminate all risk from their life, pat them on the head, kiss their bruises, put a chicken on every dinner table, clothe their bodies, tuck them into bed at night, and tell them that everything will be alright when they wake up in the morning.

"Many people today don't want honest answers insofar as honest means unpleasant or disturbing, They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety." ———— Louis Kronenberger
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Another false new age mumbo jumbo teaching that either man is God or a part of God, or can be like God if you do certain things.
The false gospel: If you don't continually perform, you're out.

The true Gospel: Believe.
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Knew this for years...others need to know it too, so this is officially...

BOMPED!

Thanks OP!
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I don't care how much you quote...I am not god and never will be. He is beyond what we know....I am a part of him though...

hf
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I think we are an expression of God. And He/She is much more than that, so far from our limited understanding that it will take an eternity to become one with God, which is but a "blink of an eye" for God, as if He/She has eyes as we know them.

I like to think of God in this way. If there were no God, we would not exist. But equally true, if there weren't living, breathing things like us, there would be no God, as we are what makes God alive and evolve.
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As long as you breathe, eat, sleep, ect., this concept will nag at you, and you will continue to preach to the choir. Having a Godhead on your shoulders brings you no closer or further to anything. If you truly truly get it. You would be wise to silently carry your message in everything you do. Help people with your strength, not your preachyness. MANY have laid out the path before you my friend and at this time in our history, you would be better serving you brother or sister by helping out ANYONE you can with your hand and a gentle tongue..





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