Debunking the Urantia book, Christians join me

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i found 1!

New World Order or Occult Secret Destiny?
- by Terry Melanson ©, 2001 (Last update: May 2nd, 2005)
The New Age Movement and Service to The Plan

The New World Order as envisioned by the Elite is hardly a recent undertaking. Theirs is a philosophy rooted in ancient occult traditions. Success is near, and the infiltration of society by New Age occultism is the reason for this success. The New World Order has never been solely about world government, rather, from the beginning its proponents have been privy to secret doctrines and it is a spiritual plan more than anything.

If one failed to take into account the occult nature of the New World Order, they would be remiss. The UN and the New Age have been bed-fellows since the beginning. America's secret destiny is the product of Rosicrucian and Freemason forefathers. The New Atlantis as proposed in Francis Bacon's work is almost at hand. The Ancient Mysteries are being studied for illumination and enlightenment by the New World Order's elite. Not to mention the New Age gurus — dutifully recruiting on behalf of the Secret Brotherhood.

In 1980, Marylin Ferguson compiled and espoused a synthesis involving the theories of transformation and the secret plan of the Aquarian Age. In her studies of the scientific advancements of this age involving entropy and syntropy, holism, holographs, paradigm shifts, the uncertainty principle and evolution, she discovered that, "for the first time an American renaissance is taking place in all disciplines, breaking the boundaries between them, transforming them at their farthest reaches—where they all converge." (The Aquarian Conspiracy, p.12)

Speaking of the networks and web of influence, Ferguson proclaimed: "There are legions of conspirators... in corporations, universities, hospitals, on the faculties of public schools, in factories, in doctors' offices, in state and federal agencies, on city councils and the White House staff, in state organizations, in virtually all arenas of policy making in the country [U.S.]...[including] at the cabinet level of the United States Government." (ibid. p.24) However, other New Age proponents said that this is innacurate, in that she had understated the influence of the New Age worldwide, especially in the UN and the EEC.

It is no coincidence that America has become the center of New Age and New World Order conspiracies. The Theosophical and Rosicrucian traditions hold that every nation has a spiritual destiny guided by a hierarchy of beings using all ethical (or un-ethical) means of manifesting the "divine plan" through the will of the nation's leaders.

A proponent of the New Age and the Secret Brotherhood's plan for a New World Order is Robert Hieronimus. In his book America's Secret Destiny, he traced the spiritual vision of America's founding fathers and the plan's eventual fruition in what we call the New World Order and the New Age Movement (both of which are synonymous). He stresses that the founding fathers of America had the equivalent of "Masters" and were pupils in a sense, much like today's powerful Elite have Masters and Gurus, following the teachings of the Great Plan.

According to the Rosicrucians and Theosophists, supporting the divine plan are great beings refered to as masters of the physical and spiritual planes. The evolution of America owes much to the seed thoughts of four masters—Kuthumi, El Morya, Rogoczy, and Djwhal Khul. Some of the founders of America may have been consciously or unconsciously students of these teachers, just as some contemporary Americans are pupils of these masters. In fact, the motto of the heirarchy of world teachers is identical with America's destiny—the brotherhood of man and the Fatherhood of God. (p. 95)

Another writer, from the opposite camp, confirms the assertions of Hieronimus. Willy Peterson writes:

In order to reach their aims of world unity and thus engage the whole world in service to the Plan, "enlightened" Freemasons and New Agers have been pushing for collectivist motifs that promote monistic pantheism and unity. This is why the chief instigators to the globalist League of Nations and the United Nations have been Theosophists, trying to work out the plan. This is why the verbiage and aims at the U.N. is for world peace and brotherhood. It is a spiritual undertaking in a secular world. Lucis Trust has had three think-tanks located at the U.N. Plaza in New York for around fifty years. No wonder the former Assistant Secretary General to the U.N., Robert Muller, is a devoted disciple of Alice Bailey, whose book, A Treatise on White Magic, forms the basis for the Robert Muller schools. (The Leavening)

These people are called the torchbearers or lightbearers of the New World Order. A spiritual plan that has been traced to the time of Nimrod and the Tower of Babel, up through to the Illuminati and onwards. "A loosely-knit world conspiracy," David Allen Lewis writes, "a so called Network of Illuminists." "Whether the Illuminati has one special organization that is its orginal descendant... we can be very sure that its philosophical torchbearers are represented by literally hundreds of organizations and individuals in many diverse realms." (Dark Angels of Light)

[link to www.conspiracyarchive.com]

"A book which appears frequently in the hands of mystical, New Age, and spiritual seekers is THE URANTIA BOOK. Easily recognizable as a massive blue $34 hardback, THE URANTIA BOOK consists of 2097 pages of channeled material. Though first published in 1955, the bulk of its material was actually channeled in the early 1930s. (Its publishers and supporters dislike speaking of THE URANTIA BOOK in terms of "channeling" or "spirit mediumship," since this draws attention to its anonymous human author, who wished his identity to be kept a secret.)"


It's followers are a cult group.


This website should end the argument...

[link to www.culthelp.info]

Any time someone has to do something in the Shadows, and hide their identity........then I question their motives!

God works in the Light of open presentation! IMHO

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obe,

whats up with all the light?

my GOD deals in love

whats the difference?

Auth: Eric Pement
Srce: CORNERSTONE magazine, vol. 20, issue 97, pp. 19, 23.
Date: 1992
Titl: THE URANTIA BOOK: A Brief Description and Its Secret Author Discovered
Note: Electronic text is somewhat expanded from the printed edition.

A book which appears frequently in the hands of mystical, New Age, and spiritual seekers is THE URANTIA BOOK. Easily recognizable as a massive blue $34 hardback, THE URANTIA BOOK consists of 2097 pages of channeled material. Though first published in 1955, the bulk of its material was actually channeled in the early 1930s. (Its publishers and supporters dislike speaking of THE URANTIA BOOK in terms of "channeling" or "spirit mediumship," since this draws attention to its anonymous human author, who wished his identity to be kept a secret.)

After nearly forty years of mystery, the author's veil of anonymity has finally been removed. The story behind the channeler's "secret identity" is actually quite fascinating. But first, some background information about the book.

There are currently more than 235,000 copies of THE URANTIA BOOK in print in two languages, English and French. Translations in Spanish and Finnish are forthcoming later in 1992, as well as a computerized version for electronic searches. Independent and "unauthorized" URANTIA BOOK readers have published a massive CONCORDEX and other study materials.

THE URANTIA BOOK contains 196 separate messages (plus a Foreword) from alleged disembodied beings in "higher" universes. Their discourses resemble what one might expect from religious alien intelligences, complete with galactic councils and interstellar colonization projects by angelic hierarchies. The "messengers" identify themselves with names like Divine Counselor, Melchizedek, Life Carrier, Midwayer Commission, Brilliant Evening Star, and Perfector of Wisdom. The planet Earth (which they refer to as "Urantia") is said to be down near the bottom of a cosmic scale of galaxies, universes, and superuniverses, all inhabited by billions of physical, etheric, and angelic beings.

The book is divided into four sections, describing an array of universes, "correcting" our concepts of God and Spirit, giving the "real" evolutionary history of earth and its religions, and offering a detailed revision of the life and words of Jesus Christ. THE URANTIA BOOK begins with copious quotations from the New Testament, particularly the writings of John. Early on, we learn that the creedal doctrine of the Trinity is false -- there are really three Trinities and seven Triunities, with different members in each. We also find that Jesus Christ is merely the seventh incarnation ("bestowal") of Michael of Nebadon (our "local universe"), the 611,121st Creator Son sent out by the Paradise Trinity. There are many others like him on other worlds, all "Michaels" and "only-begotten Sons" in their own right.

Unlike most channeled writings, THE URANTIA BOOK rejects the teachings of reincarnation and astrology. However, in line with other mediumistic revelations, it is dead-set against traditional Christian doctrines, including the inerrancy of Scripture, simple Trinitarianism, the Fall of man, original sin, the substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ, faith and repentance for salvation, the resurrection of the flesh, and eternal punishment.

THE URANTIA BOOK records Jesus telling his disciple Nathaniel, "The Scriptures are faulty and altogether human in origin" (page 1767); and while "the Scriptures contain much that is true, . . . these writings also contain much that is misrepresentative of the Father in heaven" (1768). The Jesus of THE URANTIA BOOK flatly denounces "this erroneous idea of the absolute perfection of the Scripture record and the infallibility of its teachings" (1768).

Likewise, the book says, "There has been no 'fall of man.' The history of the human race is one of progressive evolution . . . " (846). God's covenant with Israel is referred to as "the chosen-people delusion" (1005). And the atonement of Jesus is emphatically denied:


[link to www.culthelp.info]

According to Benjamin Creme, the Masters live in a dimension that hovers over the Gopi Desert, and are led by Sanat Kumara, which Theosophist Dane Rudyar referred to as "King Satan." (Blavatsky explained that Satan is just as necessary as Lucifer in a dualistic universe and thus we needn't be ashamed of the image.) The world has been continually infiltrated by Theosophists, with what they believe to be consciousness-altering "light" in order to prepare us for the unity necessary to receive Sanat Kumara as our world leader and true spiritual identity. The next expected avatar who will bridge the gap between western rationalism and eastern mysticism will supposedly be Maitreya, who is one of the higher Kumaras, who will usher in the wide reception of Sanat Kumara. (Did somebody say, Delusion?)

Remember, at the top levels, it is a spiritual recruitment of the world to mass-possession and discipleship to their demons and their demonic "Plan." But the bait can be transformed into secularized gimmicks that pull anti-religious people and organizations into their game plan, as well. Often the bigger pictures are identical but focus out into the different sub-plots, whether religious, atheistic, sensual, philosophical, training, team-building or whatever. Habitat for Humanity, for example, comes in the guise of Evangelical Christianity, helping poor people. How nice! How can anyone badmouth charity? But when the facilitators come in and train the workers at the initial session, it is made very clear, leave your doctrines, Bibles, and denominations at home. This is the place for unity and tolerance, not strife. As soon as someone stands for truth to the point of dissension, he will be asked to leave. The point of the activity is not housing the poor, but team-building interdenominationally, or ecumenical unity, a hallmark of Jimmy Carter's career and new age psycho-salvation faith. Remember, he was a convert of his sister, the inner healer, Ruth Carter Stapleton, who could as easily reach Buddhists, Hindis and Muslims with her avatar-based visualization into a watered-down humanistic kingdom. Jimmy is a disciple of the Plan, whether he is a hard-core Baileyite or not. And he is now successfully ram-rodding fundamentalists into a radical "spiritual" movement that they would never have considered joining if it were so identified. And he is leading them into it voluntarily, another unique hallmark of the Plan.

Love IS "Light on a Higher Frequency"!

Everything is Light, and reflected light.........Love is the Highest form of Light! (Frequency)

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oh no...

hey obe

frequency? thats another buzz word for communication with the trans-dimensional super beings/teachers

will this frequency help me get to the 4th dimension?

why did Jesus say "i am the truth, the way and the life"?

nothing about light from the messiah

go figure.....

Have you read The Urantia Book is my first question here? Do you know what it speaks of? Do you think the bible is perfect, that there is no error in it? Is there no errors in any book?

Why do we close our minds to new possibilities. Books are only tools for our learning and for insight into truth. Close mindedness is something I do not recommend at all. Religions were created by man and not God. Why do we believe more in Men than in God?

Search for truth and you shall find it, but first search within were you will surely find it.

Beginning in 1923, Dr. Sadler invited a group of friends, informally known as The Forum, to examine these intelligences, which were now rapidly becoming more numerous. While the channeler slept, the spirits freely answered questions in a manner not unlike that of Edgar Cayce, the famed "sleeping prophet." Sadler and his cohorts compiled 4000 questions they wanted the spirits to answer. A few weeks later, the channeler handed Dr. Sadler a sheaf of 472 pages, answering every question which had been put to him/them. The channeler's wife told Sadler that the material had been written in a single evening. By 1935, the last of the messages was delivered, and the entities asked Dr. Sadler, by now a true believer and an ex-Adventist, that the work be published.[2] Twenty years later THE URANTIA BOOK appeared in print.

Not really........frequency is the rate upon which all things vibrate! Some things vibrate at a much faster(of slower) pace than others! It's just physics(or if you prefer, God expressing)!


No.......for the frequency of the 4th dimension is already established......as is our third dimension!

In order to reach other dimension, you would have to align your own frequency with that of the one you seek. "All things seek the level upon which they are most comfortable with."
Like attracts to like.....


He didn't! Of course your bible says that He did......but what He really said was: "The Light of God is the Truth, the way, and the Life!" The Pharisees changed it, in order to make a God out of Esu! :(


This may come as a surprise to you, but 10 of the Phoenix Journals were Censored by the Federal Court system for what they called "plagiarism"! And guess what those particular lessons(journals) were about? That's right, LIGHT! I have my copy of those Journals, that I purchased before they were disallowed.......and I fully understand why Satan would make such a big stink about them.......not wanting the secret to get out!

Yes, your "messiah" spoke a great deal about "Light"........but your writers of the bible were sure to leave most of it out, back then; even as they do today! :(

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Really? Perhaps you missed these few examples:


"Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid"........Mathew 5:14

"I am the light of the world: he that followeth me(the Light) shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."........John 8:12

"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.".........Mathew 5:16(notice how this one doesn't say me me me{Jesus}, but {Father in heaven})

"And the light shineth in the darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not.".........John 1:5





These are just a few........look up "Light" in your concordance........I'm sure you will find a bunch more!!!

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obe,

you are missing the point

the main message from messiah is LOVE, not light

his message should match yours and it does not

so no reincarnation buddy!, you get one shot with this spirit in your bone suit

Throwing the baby out with the bath water, huh? Hell of a way to spend eternity.

His information(in the bible) would match mine, if the Pharisees hadn't tampered with it!!! :(

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You think Love and Light are NOT the same thing.......but in time, you will come to understand that they are!!!

For all these things are manifestations of God: Electricity, Mind, Wind, Light, Love, Rain, Flowers, Sun, etc. etc. etc.............for God is in ALL things, and through All things.......even as WE are within God!

I took Oct. 21st, 2011 plugged (added) in the 1260 day Great Tribulation period starting on Oct. 21st, 2011 and what did I get? I arrived at a date of April 3rd/4th, 2015.

That date seemed potentially relevant and meaningful. But what? I quickly looked it up as I knew I might be on to something, and to my amazement it turned out to be the day of Passover that year (2015) and the day of a Blood Red Moon! In the Book of Revelation, as in other ancient prophecies, a blood-red moon symbolizes "God's judgment".

I was floored since I knew what this meant! The puzzle fit! The Feast of Tabernacles (a 7 day feasts and ending on the 8th day-Last Great Day), and The Feast of Passover are two of the most important feasts and appointed times in the Bible.

You can take the date of the Last Great Day or the 8th Day of the Feast of Tabernacles for 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, etc. etc. and add 1260 days to it, and you will never get a perfect fit to arrive at Passover (exactly 3 years and 6 months or 1260 days later) as you can for the Oct. 21st, 2011 (8th Day- Feast of Tabernacles) date. That really says it all right there!

so whats really going to happen in October 2011??.....

I have read the book and I have to tell you it wasn't easy. It is a very long complicated book that you need to read with your dictionary, your bible and other reference books at hand. It opens your mind. It makes you think.
I have read the bible many times, the Mormon bible, The Other Bible which contains books not in the King James bible, The Dead Sea Scrolls, many other forms of the bible. Many other books on religion, Christain & other.
No one owns the truth. Not the Mormons, the Witness, the Christains (baptists, methodist,etc..., the Muslum or any other religion on earth at this time or in the past.
For someone to hold up their version of the truth and say it is the only truth is dead wrong.
It is far better to be spiritual than religious.

The Revelatorium has just opened a new forum and we welcome all those who are seeking the truth! Please come and help us start up a new community for spirited, intelligent discussion about the creation!

[link to revelatorium.freeforums.org]

Message to ALL new age players....


Servant, write... “How blessed are those, who come out at the sound of My voice!” Come out, I say!... Come! Go out to meet The Bridegroom, for He is returning and has entered the city, with His servants calling out ahead of Him, saying, “The Bridegroom’s return is at hand! Come out to meet Him!... Fall in line with the wedding party!”

Thus says The Lord God, to those who remain steadfast against My purpose, and against My prophets, and to all those who refuse to give heed to the sound of My voice: I have seen and I have heard! Your houses are unclean!... A great perversion of My name and The Holy One’s! Shall I not repay you for all these things?... Behold, I shall surely burn down all these walls, by which you have blasphemed My Spirit... They shall ALL come down! Says The Lord in His anger. And all those who remain, those who have not departed according to the sound of My voice, shall indeed fall alongside... With all these walls, which have stood against Me, falling to the ground.

L.Ron Hubbard (church of Scientology) participated in the creation of the Urantia Book.

FACT

LIE. The book was given thru a sleeping prophet, much the same as Edgar Cayce who could not be identified. Hubbard had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT> Just because creeps put this stuff up some places does not make it so.

I have in fact met one of the folks that provided some of the material thru the sleeping prophet.

By your fruits you are a TROLL. You have made it obvious. and demons are invisible and don't have physical forms, so they aren't posting here.

A Christian foundation that is relatively secure in faith does not have half the problems that less secure Christians do in dealing with the UB. The Bible is a Book of faith, the UB is more oriented towards knowledge.

No Candace; you're the troll, and Satan is your boss. Wait till you see the new information I will be posting this evening.

The Galactic Federation of Light and all of your mumbo jumbo is nothing more than the dark side.

I now understand about the Orion Wars and why we are really here. To redeem ourselves back to our first estate as true sons of God. Just like it was in the beginning

I understand that Star Wars is actually a history lesson about the Orion Wars.

And the last time this thread was going well Yah was demonically attacked.

I'll be back shortly.

[link to www.tribulation-now.org]

To Restate the Problem

It’s important that I take a moment and restate the most “immediate“ problem we have as Christianity at this moment in time. All the other nonsense aside, the MOST imminent threat to “saving souls” for Jesus Christ, is THE LANDING!! Or, if you would rather, we can call it THE DISCLOSURE PROJECT. Or, maybe we can refer to it as the “Strong Delusion” (or a ramp up to it), or maybe we should call it “The Ancient Alien” Problem, thanks to the History Channel.

Before I continue to elucidate further on the “problem”, here is the Riddle of the Day. What does the “Prophet Yahweh” and “Dr. Steven Greer” of the Disclosure Project both have in common?

Answer: They BOTH can use “telekinetic mind powers” to “conjure up” the appearance of a UFO (supposedly of Pleiadian origin) AT WILL.

Yes indeed they can. If you don’t know who these people are then you need to search You Tube on both of these fellows. You will actually SEE on a local Television News Station, the Prophet Yahweh, conjuring up the appearance of UFOs in the sky on television. Yep! Never mind he has a following of “parishioners” that learn how to do this themselves with his DIVINE assistance.

AND THEN, you have Dr. Steven Greer. Now I thought this guy was on the “up and up” since he has a pretty impressive list of high ranking and apparently genuine officials “disclosing” their “close encounters” with these UFO “entities” on his video series. (search Disclosure Project). And in fact there is NO question in my mind that these folks are telling the truth. As if it wasn’t bizarre enough to hear that these UFO’s are actively disabling Nuclear missiles (in flight, ICBM testing, etc.) but they have been shutting down “missile silos” off and on now for quite a few decades.

But when you buy Dr. Greer’s book, (like I did), “Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge”, you quickly discover that HE TOO, like Prophet Yahweh, enjoys the “conjuring up” activities of the learned far east mystics and friends of the White Brotherhood. If you look on Wikipedia.org and do some homework on Dr. Steven Greer, all you have to do is look at the name of the college he attended. Check THIS OUT! It’s Maharishi International University. How about that. Yes sireeeeee. Mr. Greer himself is the Kung Fu Panda of UFO “calling”. I would not be surprised if this becomes an Olympic Sport.

But I digress.

The most CRITICAL problem we face is the claim that these coming UFO alien-demon-fallen-angels are our creators. They are coming here to tell us this. The entire Ancient Alien Series on the History Channel makes that as clear as crystal “skull”. We can push aside the fact there are NUMEROUS books from highly credible scientists out there. Nobody, but me, reads them anyway (only kidding). Forget about Zechariah Sitchin, after all, Dr. Michael Heiser (who I love as a very smart fellow Christian), says “Stichin Lies”. Why? Because there are some discrepancies in his understanding of Hebrew and Sumerian language. Yep. So every single thing that Sitchin says MUST be a lie.

And yes, while very few people know this (except those that purchase, watch and study) such material as “Confessions of a Mother Goddess” (a wacky Masonic lie from David dIcke no less – give me a break), Zechariah Sitchin was seen regularly attending “Blood Sacrifice Ceremonies” where leading government officials and Heads of State were seen “shape shifting” into Reptilian Demons. NO WAY! Sure. But you have to be gullible like me to believe such crazy “fallen angel” nonsensical stories such as that. Right?

I have one last question for you.

Why does God say that “HE” sends a STRONG DELUSION? Why would God SEND the Strong Delusion. Isn’t he on OUR SIDE? Why would he do that?

Hint: I know why!! It’s actually pretty cool.