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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1264913 United States 02/13/2011 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Makes no difference. God left the stone temple when Jesus died. The temple is now people. The stone temple is just a diversion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264423Re-establish the daily sacrifice? Create a new center of worship for the planet. Seems like more than a diversion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1144159 United States 02/13/2011 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Makes no difference. God left the stone temple when Jesus died. The temple is now people. The stone temple is just a diversion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264423For God lives not in stone temples made with human hands. But in tabernacles within fleshy living hearts and minds. On that mount you worship you know not what, but the day is coming that God will have all peoples to worship Him in spirit and in truth. |
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cRoSS FiRe User ID: 1237458 United States 02/13/2011 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Added to favorites to look at later. Thanks for the heads up, OP. It is significant news. Everyone can debate all they want about why and where, but it will be built, regardless. "Nothing is as far away as one minute ago." --Jim Bishop :gameizovar: It's DO:OM o'clock. WAKE UP! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1264423 Australia 02/13/2011 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Makes no difference. God left the stone temple when Jesus died. The temple is now people. The stone temple is just a diversion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264423Re-establish the daily sacrifice? Create a new center of worship for the planet. Seems like more than a diversion. They can build a big stone temple and sacrifice as many animals as they want. God won't accept their sacrifices. Just like He refused to accept any more sacrifices after Jesus died. This is recorded in the Talmud. "Another amazing fact is that the Talmud admits that forty years prior to the destruction of the Temple, God refused to accept the high priestly sacrifices: “Our Rabbis taught that throughout the forty years that Shim’on the Tzaddik served ... the scarlet cloth would become white. From then on it would sometimes become white and sometimes not ... Throughout the last forty years, before the Temple was destroyed ... the scarlet cloth never turned white.” (Yoma 39a-39b) Is it then a mere coincidence that approximately forty years prior to the Temple’s destruction, Yeshua the Messiah offered himself as the final and perfect sacrifice, making void all other sacrifices offered up by the cohen ha-gadol (the high priest)? The Talmud alludes to the reason why God allowed the Temple to be destroyed: " [link to www.jesusplusnothing.com] "There is an amazing reference in the Talmud concerning the doors of the Second Temple. "Forty years before the destruction of the Temple (ie. 30 C.E.) the lot did not come up in the right hand, nor did the crimson stripe become white, nor did the westernmost light burn; and the doors of the heikhal (the Holy Place of the Temple) opened of their own accord, until Rabbi Yochanon ben Zakkai rebuked them. He said to it [the Temple]: 'O heikhal, heikhal, why do you alarm yourself? I know full well that you are destined to be destroyed, for Zechariah ben Iddo has already prophesied concerning you 'Open thy doors, O Lebanon, that the fire may devour the cedars' (Zech. 11:1).' --Talmud Bavli, Yoma 39b" [link to www.yeshuatyisrael.com] God ripped open the veil in the stone temple at Jerusalem when Jesus died. That was one sign that the old sacrificial temple ways were over. Rebuilding that stone temple, and sacrificing animals there, will mean nothing. God won't accept the sacrifices. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113553 United States 02/13/2011 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Makes no difference. God left the stone temple when Jesus died. The temple is now people. The stone temple is just a diversion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264423Re-establish the daily sacrifice? Create a new center of worship for the planet. Seems like more than a diversion. They can build a big stone temple and sacrifice as many animals as they want. God won't accept their sacrifices. Just like He refused to accept any more sacrifices after Jesus died. This is recorded in the Talmud. "Another amazing fact is that the Talmud admits that forty years prior to the destruction of the Temple, God refused to accept the high priestly sacrifices: “Our Rabbis taught that throughout the forty years that Shim’on the Tzaddik served ... the scarlet cloth would become white. From then on it would sometimes become white and sometimes not ... Throughout the last forty years, before the Temple was destroyed ... the scarlet cloth never turned white.” (Yoma 39a-39b) Is it then a mere coincidence that approximately forty years prior to the Temple’s destruction, Yeshua the Messiah offered himself as the final and perfect sacrifice, making void all other sacrifices offered up by the cohen ha-gadol (the high priest)? The Talmud alludes to the reason why God allowed the Temple to be destroyed: " [link to www.jesusplusnothing.com] "There is an amazing reference in the Talmud concerning the doors of the Second Temple. "Forty years before the destruction of the Temple (ie. 30 C.E.) the lot did not come up in the right hand, nor did the crimson stripe become white, nor did the westernmost light burn; and the doors of the heikhal (the Holy Place of the Temple) opened of their own accord, until Rabbi Yochanon ben Zakkai rebuked them. He said to it [the Temple]: 'O heikhal, heikhal, why do you alarm yourself? I know full well that you are destined to be destroyed, for Zechariah ben Iddo has already prophesied concerning you 'Open thy doors, O Lebanon, that the fire may devour the cedars' (Zech. 11:1).' --Talmud Bavli, Yoma 39b" [link to www.yeshuatyisrael.com] God ripped open the veil in the stone temple at Jerusalem when Jesus died. That was one sign that the old sacrificial temple ways were over. Rebuilding that stone temple, and sacrificing animals there, will mean nothing. God won't accept the sacrifices. Yes, this is true. But AGAIN, the Jews do not accept that. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1264913 United States 02/13/2011 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Makes no difference. God left the stone temple when Jesus died. The temple is now people. The stone temple is just a diversion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264423For God lives not in stone temples made with human hands. But in tabernacles within fleshy living hearts and minds. On that mount you worship you know not what, but the day is coming that God will have all peoples to worship Him in spirit and in truth. This is key to understanding the new testament. The end times outlined in the scriptures reveal that before the tribulation occurs there will be a new temple built in Jerusalem and the daily sacrifices will be resumed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1264423 Australia 02/13/2011 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God ripped open the veil in the stone temple at Jerusalem when Jesus died. That was one sign that the old sacrificial temple ways were over. Rebuilding that stone temple, and sacrificing animals there, will mean nothing. God won't accept the sacrifices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264423Yes, this is true. But AGAIN, the Jews do not accept that. The Jews don't accept a lot of things. Like Jesus for example. So let them build a stone temple if they want, who cares? Maybe then they will figure out that the stone temple doesn't work any more, and that they must have missed something. Or Someone. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1144159 United States 02/13/2011 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Makes no difference. God left the stone temple when Jesus died. The temple is now people. The stone temple is just a diversion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264423Re-establish the daily sacrifice? Create a new center of worship for the planet. Seems like more than a diversion. I wonder if it will be as busy as the Tyson Meat Packing plant down the highway from here with all those oxes and goats and sheep and doves being killed in offering for the Sins of Israel and for the sins of the individual people of Israel -- those sins are now piling up to the high heavens -- and sin offerings must be made for them for the Atonment of sinful Israel. Will the potential food go to waste? remember even the annually offered passover lamb was to be used for FOOD after the offering. Meanwhile we Christians, have a high priest after the order of Melchesizedek.. not of Aaron nor Levi... not of carnal temple offering services. It should have been obvious with the destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D. now some 1,941 years ago, that such Temple Offerings were an offense to God.. that is why He had the Temple destroyed by the hands of the Roman Legions... and blocked the Jews from being able to keep ALL the commandments that He had given to the Children of Israel their anscestors. If a Child of Israel break even one of these Laws he has broken the whole law. At the moment the Children of Israel have no place to act all self-righteous before the throne of Heaven. Without the Son of God coming down from Heaven, and bringing with him the New Jerusalem, there will never be a center of worship for the Planet. The Christian doesn't even need one, as the place of worship is found within his own heart and mind via the gift of the Holy Spirit given to him for truely spiritual worship any place, any time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1144159 United States 02/13/2011 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God ripped open the veil in the stone temple at Jerusalem when Jesus died. That was one sign that the old sacrificial temple ways were over. Rebuilding that stone temple, and sacrificing animals there, will mean nothing. God won't accept the sacrifices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264423Yes, this is true. But AGAIN, the Jews do not accept that. The Jews don't accept a lot of things. Like Jesus for example. So let them build a stone temple if they want, who cares? Maybe then they will figure out that the stone temple doesn't work any more, and that they must have missed something. Or Someone. Let the Stone Temple Builders have their day. God knows His own heart and His own Counsel. Let them worship their idol of gold, silver, and stone. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1264913 United States 02/13/2011 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The end times outlined in the scriptures reveal that before the tribulation occurs there will be a new temple built in Jerusalem and the daily sacrifices will be resumed. Quoting: JohntarazWhich scriptures? [link to www.spiritandtruth.org] •Daniel 9:27 - The prince who is to come confirms a covenant for the duration of The 70th Week of Daniel. In the middle of the week, “he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” This implies an preexisting Temple within which sacrifice and offering had been taking place. •Daniel 12:11 - The daily sacrifice will be taken away and the Abomination of Desolation is set up. The context indicates that this occurs during “a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a [Jewish] nation” (Dan. 12:1). A Temple must have been standing in which the daily sacrifices were being offered. •Matthew 24:15 - Jesus predicted that the Abomination of Desolation would stand “in the holy place.” This refers to a location within the Temple. •2 Thessalonians 2:4 - Paul indicated that one of the acts of the man of sin would be to exalt himself “above all that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” [emphasis added] •Revelation 11:1+ - John is told to measure “the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there.” The context is during the Tribulation, prior to the return of Christ. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1228748 United States 02/13/2011 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The end times outlined in the scriptures reveal that before the tribulation occurs there will be a new temple built in Jerusalem and the daily sacrifices will be resumed. Quoting: JohntarazGod already has a temple He dwells in, and there's already daily sacrifices offered. Setting up some fancy-ass building at a site God already abandoned is a kind of a huge step in the wrong direction. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113553 United States 02/13/2011 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The end times outlined in the scriptures reveal that before the tribulation occurs there will be a new temple built in Jerusalem and the daily sacrifices will be resumed. Quoting: JohntarazGod already has a temple He dwells in, and there's already daily sacrifices offered. Setting up some fancy-ass building at a site God already abandoned is a kind of a huge step in the wrong direction. So which part of the "Temple without Walls" will the AntiChrist stand in to declare himself god? And what is the daily sacrifice that will end? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1228748 United States 02/13/2011 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God ripped open the veil in the stone temple at Jerusalem when Jesus died. That was one sign that the old sacrificial temple ways were over. Rebuilding that stone temple, and sacrificing animals there, will mean nothing. God won't accept the sacrifices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264423Yes, this is true. But AGAIN, the Jews do not accept that. So. . .God's gonna bend over backwards and build them a structure like they used to have, instead of requiring them to become living stones in Christ? There's no Plan B - Christ is it. Jews or whomever are more than welcome to participate. All that stuff in the OT was merely visual aids. . . [link to www.templesecrets.info] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1144159 United States 02/13/2011 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Makes no difference. God left the stone temple when Jesus died. The temple is now people. The stone temple is just a diversion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264423Re-establish the daily sacrifice? Create a new center of worship for the planet. Seems like more than a diversion. They can build a big stone temple and sacrifice as many animals as they want. God won't accept their sacrifices. Just like He refused to accept any more sacrifices after Jesus died. This is recorded in the Talmud. "Another amazing fact is that the Talmud admits that forty years prior to the destruction of the Temple, God refused to accept the high priestly sacrifices: “Our Rabbis taught that throughout the forty years that Shim’on the Tzaddik served ... the scarlet cloth would become white. From then on it would sometimes become white and sometimes not ... Throughout the last forty years, before the Temple was destroyed ... the scarlet cloth never turned white.” (Yoma 39a-39b) Is it then a mere coincidence that approximately forty years prior to the Temple’s destruction, Yeshua the Messiah offered himself as the final and perfect sacrifice, making void all other sacrifices offered up by the cohen ha-gadol (the high priest)? The Talmud alludes to the reason why God allowed the Temple to be destroyed: " [link to www.jesusplusnothing.com] "There is an amazing reference in the Talmud concerning the doors of the Second Temple. "Forty years before the destruction of the Temple (ie. 30 C.E.) the lot did not come up in the right hand, nor did the crimson stripe become white, nor did the westernmost light burn; and the doors of the heikhal (the Holy Place of the Temple) opened of their own accord, until Rabbi Yochanon ben Zakkai rebuked them. He said to it [the Temple]: 'O heikhal, heikhal, why do you alarm yourself? I know full well that you are destined to be destroyed, for Zechariah ben Iddo has already prophesied concerning you 'Open thy doors, O Lebanon, that the fire may devour the cedars' (Zech. 11:1).' --Talmud Bavli, Yoma 39b" [link to www.yeshuatyisrael.com] God ripped open the veil in the stone temple at Jerusalem when Jesus died. That was one sign that the old sacrificial temple ways were over. Rebuilding that stone temple, and sacrificing animals there, will mean nothing. God won't accept the sacrifices. Yes, this is true. But AGAIN, the Jews do not accept that. Even the Talmuds (Babylonian and Jerusalem) speak of that event and how Haunted "The House" had become after that, with all sorts of groanings and knockings, and doors closing and openning by themselves and candles lighting up by themselves, and foul oders.. the Prototype and perhaps definition of all haunted houses was the Temple in Jersalem during the years between ~34 A.D. and its final destruction by the abominatiable Roman Armies that desolated the Temple, its Mound, and all of Jerusalem, and left not own stone standing upon another. Those Roman Leigions serving under the worship of 'god' Ceasar were the abomination that made it all desolate. The destruction of 70 A.D. If the Jews wish to build a new temple and if God wills it, then it will be done, sometime. Two parts of conditional logic there, second one being, if God wills it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1264423 Australia 02/13/2011 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The end times outlined in the scriptures reveal that before the tribulation occurs there will be a new temple built in Jerusalem and the daily sacrifices will be resumed. Quoting: JohntarazWhich scriptures? [link to www.spiritandtruth.org] •Daniel 9:27 - The prince who is to come confirms a covenant for the duration of The 70th Week of Daniel. In the middle of the week, “he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” This implies an preexisting Temple within which sacrifice and offering had been taking place. •Daniel 12:11 - The daily sacrifice will be taken away and the Abomination of Desolation is set up. The context indicates that this occurs during “a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a [Jewish] nation” (Dan. 12:1). A Temple must have been standing in which the daily sacrifices were being offered. •Matthew 24:15 - Jesus predicted that the Abomination of Desolation would stand “in the holy place.” This refers to a location within the Temple. •2 Thessalonians 2:4 - Paul indicated that one of the acts of the man of sin would be to exalt himself “above all that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” [emphasis added] •Revelation 11:1+ - John is told to measure “the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there.” The context is during the Tribulation, prior to the return of Christ. The Abomination already happened when Domitian sacrificed a pig on the altar in the stone temple. That stone temple was later destroyed. The temple of God changed when Jesus died. From then, the temple of God is people, not stone buildings. Maybe what Paul was writing about was Satan inhabiting a human body, pretending to be human? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113553 United States 02/13/2011 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God ripped open the veil in the stone temple at Jerusalem when Jesus died. That was one sign that the old sacrificial temple ways were over. Rebuilding that stone temple, and sacrificing animals there, will mean nothing. God won't accept the sacrifices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264423Yes, this is true. But AGAIN, the Jews do not accept that. So. . .God's gonna bend over backwards and build them a structure like they used to have, instead of requiring them to become living stones in Christ? There's no Plan B - Christ is it. Jews or whomever are more than welcome to participate. All that stuff in the OT was merely visual aids. . . [link to www.templesecrets.info] Wow. Unbelievable how thick some people are. Who said anything about GOD building a temple? Where do you get THAT from? Who said anything about changing requirements. I never said God would change His mind or any requirements. The Jews REJECTED CHRIST!!!! THEY STILL BELIEVE IN THE TEMPLE AND THE SACRIFICE!!!! GOD DOESN"T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!! WHAT PART OF THIS SIMPLE FORMULA IS GIVING YOU SO MUCH TROUBLE?????????????????????????????????????? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1264913 United States 02/13/2011 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The end times outlined in the scriptures reveal that before the tribulation occurs there will be a new temple built in Jerusalem and the daily sacrifices will be resumed. Quoting: JohntarazWhich scriptures? [link to www.spiritandtruth.org] •Daniel 9:27 - The prince who is to come confirms a covenant for the duration of The 70th Week of Daniel. In the middle of the week, “he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” This implies an preexisting Temple within which sacrifice and offering had been taking place. •Daniel 12:11 - The daily sacrifice will be taken away and the Abomination of Desolation is set up. The context indicates that this occurs during “a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a [Jewish] nation” (Dan. 12:1). A Temple must have been standing in which the daily sacrifices were being offered. •Matthew 24:15 - Jesus predicted that the Abomination of Desolation would stand “in the holy place.” This refers to a location within the Temple. •2 Thessalonians 2:4 - Paul indicated that one of the acts of the man of sin would be to exalt himself “above all that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” [emphasis added] •Revelation 11:1+ - John is told to measure “the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there.” The context is during the Tribulation, prior to the return of Christ. The Abomination already happened when Domitian sacrificed a pig on the altar in the stone temple. That stone temple was later destroyed. The temple of God changed when Jesus died. From then, the temple of God is people, not stone buildings. Maybe what Paul was writing about was Satan inhabiting a human body, pretending to be human? This depends on your interpretation of history and scripture. If you read revelation there are many contingent events that have not yet occurred to fulfill the scripture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113553 United States 02/13/2011 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The end times outlined in the scriptures reveal that before the tribulation occurs there will be a new temple built in Jerusalem and the daily sacrifices will be resumed. Quoting: JohntarazWhich scriptures? [link to www.spiritandtruth.org] •Daniel 9:27 - The prince who is to come confirms a covenant for the duration of The 70th Week of Daniel. In the middle of the week, “he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” This implies an preexisting Temple within which sacrifice and offering had been taking place. •Daniel 12:11 - The daily sacrifice will be taken away and the Abomination of Desolation is set up. The context indicates that this occurs during “a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a [Jewish] nation” (Dan. 12:1). A Temple must have been standing in which the daily sacrifices were being offered. •Matthew 24:15 - Jesus predicted that the Abomination of Desolation would stand “in the holy place.” This refers to a location within the Temple. •2 Thessalonians 2:4 - Paul indicated that one of the acts of the man of sin would be to exalt himself “above all that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” [emphasis added] •Revelation 11:1+ - John is told to measure “the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there.” The context is during the Tribulation, prior to the return of Christ. The Abomination already happened when Domitian sacrificed a pig on the altar in the stone temple. That stone temple was later destroyed. The temple of God changed when Jesus died. From then, the temple of God is people, not stone buildings. Maybe what Paul was writing about was Satan inhabiting a human body, pretending to be human? So which part of the "Temple without Walls" will the AntiChrist stand in to declare himself god? And what is the daily sacrifice that will end? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1228748 United States 02/13/2011 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So which part of the "Temple without Walls" will the AntiChrist stand in to declare himself god? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113553And what is the daily sacrifice that will end? Are you not conducting a daily sacrifice? I realize not everyone is, which explains a lot of what's wrong with Church Inc. The "son of perdition" is Judas. Jesus identified him as such. The man of sin = "many of his disciples [who] went back, and walked no more with Him" (John 6:66) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1144159 United States 02/13/2011 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The end times outlined in the scriptures reveal that before the tribulation occurs there will be a new temple built in Jerusalem and the daily sacrifices will be resumed. Quoting: JohntarazWhich scriptures? [link to www.spiritandtruth.org] •Daniel 9:27 - The prince who is to come confirms a covenant for the duration of The 70th Week of Daniel. In the middle of the week, “he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” This implies an preexisting Temple within which sacrifice and offering had been taking place. •Daniel 12:11 - The daily sacrifice will be taken away and the Abomination of Desolation is set up. The context indicates that this occurs during “a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a [Jewish] nation” (Dan. 12:1). A Temple must have been standing in which the daily sacrifices were being offered. •Matthew 24:15 - Jesus predicted that the Abomination of Desolation would stand “in the holy place.” This refers to a location within the Temple. •2 Thessalonians 2:4 - Paul indicated that one of the acts of the man of sin would be to exalt himself “above all that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” [emphasis added] •Revelation 11:1+ - John is told to measure “the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there.” The context is during the Tribulation, prior to the return of Christ. The Jews could care less about these New Testament passages... as they are of Jesus Christ, whom those seeking to rebuild the Temple have rejected. So, it is only natural that such would also reject those last three passages you cite. |