Creating a Society without MONEY. | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1288745 United States 03/20/2011 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Money is not the problem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1304309The question is not creating a society without money, but the challenge lies in how we create a society without greed. wrong, its the money that creates greed in the first place as is the perception of limited resources which again is money. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1275194 United States 03/20/2011 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just watch Zeitgeist: Moving Forward they address everything - EVERYTHING. how to get resources, track them, distribute them; answers to the "won't people just sit around and do nothing?"; really any questions or concerns about moving away from a monetary system, they give solutions the problem is people who think TZM and TVP are antichrist because joseph just HAD to do that first film lol but if you can look past your cultural differences, the solutions they offer really can work for everyone if you have all the resources you need to live, you'll use your precious time on earth to do what makes you feel happy people will create all forms of art people will look into the stars and say "What's up there? I wanna go tthere. Think I'll work on that." when you question or criticize a solution (not just this one) remember that a lot of questions and concerns are based IN the system we are currently in; meaning, it's hard to comprehend what a system without money would be like, because most of your concerns or problems with the solution are based on that fact that you've lived in a money system for decades |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 946424 United States 03/20/2011 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi everyone, I am starting a discussion thread for those interested in this concept. All advancing worlds at some point give it up, as it is a tool that is not just for "trade" but also how the greedy ones control and enslave people with it. I talk to people who can't even comprehend the idea. And before we get started, living without money doesn't mean you have to personally go trade with somebody for what you need. Quoting: Nobody in ParticularI think we should create a society without loser idiots like you. The only reason a life without money appeals to you is because you are a loser. You like to day dream about getting all kinds of shit for free - since there's no money and all you think everyone will continue to go to work and bust ass to give you shit for free. Why don't you wake the fuck up and join the real world? Learn that everyone serves others and those who do it most effectively gain the most in return. Until and unless you learn to serve others like everyone else, you will continue to be a fucking loser. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1131751 United States 03/20/2011 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we should create a society without loser idiots like you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946424The only reason a life without money appeals to you is because you are a loser. you are just unintelligent and do not understand that money rips off everyone. It hijacks a trade everything you buy and sell you must pay a commission to those who make the money. You are just dull, and lack the ability to understand this truthful fact. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1304309 Brazil 03/21/2011 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Money is not the problem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1304309The question is not creating a society without money, but the challenge lies in how we create a society without greed. wrong, its the money that creates greed in the first place as is the perception of limited resources which again is money. No, i dont think so. Greed is the root of many problems in our society. Greed comes from a feeling of lacking inside ourselves that have nothing to do with money. Money (and power and status etc.) is just an instrument wrongly used to fill this hole that people have in their souls. |
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osbogosley User ID: 1116195 United States 03/21/2011 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not out of thin air. When you take a check to the bank and sign the back as the agent for the name, you are approving fractionalization. Its called endorsing the check. The other choice is non-endorsement. Such as: Deposited for credit on the account or redeemed for non-negotiable federal reserve notes of face value. Redeemed in lawful money. per usc 411 sec.12. This workes as well. Its your choice so stop pointing the finger away from you. For those with a desire to learn more go to this: Thread: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul osbogosley; All words I type are illegal advice, really tired of disclaimers! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218152 United States 03/21/2011 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's interesting you bring this topic up. I, too, have been saying we have to figure out a way to move beyond money. It really has completely corrupted this world. I don't have the answer, but I think an honest discussion about it is a good place to start. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1276135 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1300778 United Kingdom 03/21/2011 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | money is the root of all 'evil'. and by this I mean, "Needing to (somehow) acquire cash to pay for heating lighting accomodation sewers roads etc... that's why we have prisons and destitution and amorality." it's HAVING TO PLAY THE MONEY GAME that's our problem. we don't even have to, but we are EDUCATED to pay so that the Kings and Queens can STEAL ALL THE LAND, EAT ALL THE GOOD FOOD and ENJOY OUR TOIL. :) Fuck 'em! Gimme a FREE PLANET, now. Or me and my seven billion buddies will TAKE IT. And we'll know how to treat it right. :) |
Burt Gummer User ID: 1307167 United States 03/21/2011 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi everyone, I am starting a discussion thread for those interested in this concept. All advancing worlds at some point give it up, as it is a tool that is not just for "trade" but also how the greedy ones control and enslave people with it. I talk to people who can't even comprehend the idea. And before we get started, living without money doesn't mean you have to personally go trade with somebody for what you need. Quoting: Nobody in ParticularGreat thought for UTOPIA....but it can never exist. ...to many lazy loafers, brain dead people, naive sheep and those with their own controlling agendas. Realize too... Since the beginning of time, man has ALWAYS sought to control others. Nothing has changed....nor can it....by the very nature of MANKIND ITSELF. |
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osbogosley User ID: 1116195 United States 03/21/2011 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | money is the root of all 'evil'. Quoting: Free Planetand by this I mean, "Needing to (somehow) acquire cash to pay for heating lighting accomodation sewers roads etc... that's why we have prisons and destitution and amorality." it's HAVING TO PLAY THE MONEY GAME that's our problem. we don't even have to, but we are EDUCATED to pay so that the Kings and Queens can STEAL ALL THE LAND, EAT ALL THE GOOD FOOD and ENJOY OUR TOIL. :) Fuck 'em! Gimme a FREE PLANET, now. Or me and my seven billion buddies will TAKE IT. And we'll know how to treat it right. :) Yea, thats right, idiot. Do TV's work without current? Money is currency. Transfering currency between people is a good thing. Paying interest on the fractionalization is a bad thing. Letting crooks collect interest can be avoided by saying no. Don't endorse the fed. Its that simple. [link to savingtosuitorsclub.net] If you can read, educate yourself: osbogosley; All words I type are illegal advice, really tired of disclaimers! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1306117 United States 03/21/2011 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If humans could master matter to energy/ energy to matter conversion, there would be no need of money, commodities, precious stones and metals, drug manufacturing, farming, and greed. Quoting: Apocalypse TrollAbsolutely! When, not if. It's just a matter of time and time itself is an illusion outside of our point of reference. |
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Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) User ID: 1307261 Chile 03/21/2011 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea of moneyless society has already some noticeable practitioners. Daniel Suelo, Mark Boyle, Sonja Kruse and Tomy Astikainen, Heidemarie Schwermer, all of them coming from distinct angles and with different visions, have become the change they wanted to experience. They are the Moneyless humans. [link to www.justfortheloveofit.org] Personally I love the concept of a moneyless society based on the true care for other's needs, that is fueled by the "Pay it forward" spirit. I'd say that Daniel suelo, Mark Boyle and Sonja Kruse are the closest to where I stand regarding this idea. Call us utopians, but it has to start somewhere and this is starting in several places at the same time. Regards!!! |
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Crisp-e-Bacon User ID: 1307906 United States 03/21/2011 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea of moneyless society has already some noticeable practitioners. Daniel Suelo, Mark Boyle, Sonja Kruse and Tomy Astikainen, Heidemarie Schwermer, all of them coming from distinct angles and with different visions, have become the change they wanted to experience. They are the Moneyless humans. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) 1307261[link to www.justfortheloveofit.org] Personally I love the concept of a moneyless society based on the true care for other's needs, that is fueled by the "Pay it forward" spirit. I'd say that Daniel suelo, Mark Boyle and Sonja Kruse are the closest to where I stand regarding this idea. Call us utopians, but it has to start somewhere and this is starting in several places at the same time. Regards!!! It can be done, but everyone will be poorer for trying it. Money makes trade much more efficient. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1296781 Hong Kong 03/21/2011 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi everyone, I am starting a discussion thread for those interested in this concept. All advancing worlds at some point give it up, as it is a tool that is not just for "trade" but also how the greedy ones control and enslave people with it. I talk to people who can't even comprehend the idea. And before we get started, living without money doesn't mean you have to personally go trade with somebody for what you need. Quoting: Nobody in ParticularIt will happen in the future, and sooner than most of us think, We are living in truly changing times. Obviously there are people with vested interests in money, well power. They will try and ammend there money to the new forms of trade but ultimately will fail. A concept which I find fascinating is realitive value, very much like a barter system. You trade points with each other based on what you think something is worth, eventually .. the collective find the right price |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1102470 United States 03/21/2011 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi everyone, I am starting a discussion thread for those interested in this concept. All advancing worlds at some point give it up, as it is a tool that is not just for "trade" but also how the greedy ones control and enslave people with it. I talk to people who can't even comprehend the idea. And before we get started, living without money doesn't mean you have to personally go trade with somebody for what you need. Quoting: Nobody in ParticularI doubt the vast majority of people can imagine a society without money, the same as they can not imagine a four-dimensional hypercube... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1224385 United States 03/25/2011 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi everyone, I am starting a discussion thread for those interested in this concept. All advancing worlds at some point give it up, as it is a tool that is not just for "trade" but also how the greedy ones control and enslave people with it. I talk to people who can't even comprehend the idea. And before we get started, living without money doesn't mean you have to personally go trade with somebody for what you need. Quoting: Nobody in Particularyou weren't paying attention. In order to have a world without money you have to get others to give up their money. Camel through the eye of a needle is impossible. Luckily for you that you don't have that same charisma Christ had or they would kill you for daring to bring this up too. |