Guardian: Online forums are being HIJACKED by people who aren't what they seem | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1141935 Canada 02/28/2011 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This forum is full of it, I posted a thread on a protest against bankers bailouts in the UK and I got a score of anti Muslim rhetoric...??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280046Wow. PRIME EXAMPLE. Thanks. We need a thread called Shillin for Dummies or something with more of these types of examples. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 992418 United States 02/28/2011 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1273101 United States 02/28/2011 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Least Servant User ID: 1257763 United States 02/28/2011 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so obvious. I could look up something online to get some information and then all of a sudden see commercials on my dtv advertising what I was looking up online. These are commercials I have never seen before. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273101Woah, your cable company is really high tech! :romaflag: Not enough to fight, too many to die. |
The Other Guy (OP) User ID: 1264774 United States 02/28/2011 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so obvious. I could look up something online to get some information and then all of a sudden see commercials on my dtv advertising what I was looking up online. These are commercials I have never seen before. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273101Woah, your cable company is really high tech! maybe he's got one of those package deals. You know, Cable, Telephone and internet in one? Your daily dose of sanity in an insane world. |
Least Servant User ID: 1257763 United States 02/28/2011 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so obvious. I could look up something online to get some information and then all of a sudden see commercials on my dtv advertising what I was looking up online. These are commercials I have never seen before. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273101Woah, your cable company is really high tech! maybe he's got one of those package deals. You know, Cable, Telephone and internet in one? That's what I was thinking... it's like googleads only for your dtv service. :romaflag: Not enough to fight, too many to die. |
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Programmer User ID: 1105850 United States 02/28/2011 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just read an article on the Guardian that is apparently blocked here about companies using armies of paid users to log onto forums and actively troll them and argue with anyone who has a negative view of what they were paid to promote. Sound familiar? I remember seeing a post a while back about the US Airforce's purchase of software to do this exact thing, but apparently companies are doing it now too. Quoting: The Other GuyJust google Guardian Astroturfing and it's the second link down. Yeah it's been posted here a few times. It's HBGary served up by the Air Force. Here's the core of their spy tool called Qosmos (a Packet Forensics tool): Emphasis added. "Qosmos provides law enforcement agencies with a powerful solution to identify a target using multiple virtual IDs and intercept all related IP-based communications. Any trigger, such as a “user login = target” initiates intercept of all IP traffic related to the “target.” Example of recognized applications and protocols VoIP Email (POP, SMTP) Webmail (Gmail, Hotmail, Live Mail, SquirrelMail, Yahoo mail, etc.) Instant Messaging (Aim, SNM, Skype, Yahoo, Google Talk, QQ, Maktoob, Paltalk, etc.) Online games (World of Warcraft) Online classified ads Audio/Video (H.323, SIP, MGCP, RTP, RTCP, MMSE, RTSP, SHOUTcast, Yahoo Video, MSN Video, SCCP, etc.) Web applications (Dailymotion, Google, eBay, Google Earth, HTTP, MySpace, Wikipedia, YouTube, etc.) Example of information extracted Caller, phone number, called party, duration of call Webmail login, email address, sender, receiver, subject matter, attached documents Instant messaging sender, receiver, contact lists and status Forum login, IP address, MAC address, mobile ID (IMSI, IMEI) Protocols identified even for unidirectional traffic (e.g. email by satellite)." More: [link to publicintelligence.net] Face it though, the internet was never here for our enjoyment. "I hope the internet was worth it." ~Anonymous Further: "They" don't need to run GLP. They exploit GLP just like they exploit thousands of other forums. GLP is simply the primary pollination vector. As the software army is chipping away at confidence of the site users, the content bots are pushing auto-posts that have been pre-scripted and pooled. The bot persona conditionally draws from said categorized pool. A human technician is handling the bot teams and using human interaction when necessary to preserve the core assets. "To see the farm is to leave it." ~Stefan Molyneux |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1280058 New Zealand 02/28/2011 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1078715 United States 02/28/2011 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OH NOES. An Opinion differing from that of the majority...it's a goddamned conspiracy. Seriously? As long as I've been on the net (a long fucking time) it's been a cesspool of trolling, hatred and discontent. Grown some thicker fucking skin if you feel "offended" that someone doesn't "agree with your viewpoint" |
9teen.47 nli User ID: 1280182 United Kingdom 02/28/2011 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
SHR Forum Administrator 02/28/2011 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real "Battlefield" is in your head...and has been for a while... If you think going to ground war is the big leagues for a few billion bucks worth of merely cheaper oil deals then ask yourself how much selling Iphones, Spring fresh whateva, Psycho-pharma drugs etc etc is worth...every day, week, month...for years on end...and you don't need a war machine in the classic sense to do it either, which aren't all that easy to come by. We buy 100 of millions of bottles of what mostly is bottled tap water every month...at a price that is more than double the price of gasoline in many cases...why?...because we "want" it... It creates the next "Star"...get's the next politician elected, the next new fad, the latest and greatest "thing"...the next thing you fight against or fight for...it's where the battle for influence really is. ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1280195 United States 02/28/2011 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Least Servant User ID: 1257763 United States 02/28/2011 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real "Battlefield" is in your head...and has been for a while... Quoting: SHRIf you think going to ground war is the big leagues for a few billion bucks worth of merely cheaper oil deals then ask yourself how much selling Iphones, Spring fresh whateva, Psycho-pharma drugs etc etc is worth...every day, week, month...for years on end...and you don't need a war machine in the classic sense to do it either, which aren't all that easy to come by. We buy 100 of millions of bottles of what mostly is bottled tap water every month...at a price that is more than double the price of gasoline in many cases...why?...because we "want" it... It creates the next "Star"...get's the next politician elected, the next new fad, the latest and greatest "thing"...the next thing you fight against or fight for...it's where the battle for influence really is. In my deliriously hung over state this morning, I kept thinking "it's not when you write the check, it's when you cash it that matters". :romaflag: Not enough to fight, too many to die. |
SHR Forum Administrator 02/28/2011 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real "Battlefield" is in your head...and has been for a while... Quoting: SHRIf you think going to ground war is the big leagues for a few billion bucks worth of merely cheaper oil deals then ask yourself how much selling Iphones, Spring fresh whateva, Psycho-pharma drugs etc etc is worth...every day, week, month...for years on end...and you don't need a war machine in the classic sense to do it either, which aren't all that easy to come by. We buy 100 of millions of bottles of what mostly is bottled tap water every month...at a price that is more than double the price of gasoline in many cases...why?...because we "want" it... It creates the next "Star"...get's the next politician elected, the next new fad, the latest and greatest "thing"...the next thing you fight against or fight for...it's where the battle for influence really is. In my deliriously hung over state this morning, I kept thinking "it's not when you write the check, it's when you cash it that matters". Did you get hammered on "Budwiesr..the KING of Beers"?....or was it maybe a cool refreshing adult beverage of another variety that either brought Cold Mountain refreshment or had More taste...than them other shitty brands...lol..;) ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
Least Servant User ID: 1257763 United States 02/28/2011 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you get hammered on "Budwiesr..the KING of Beers"?....or was it maybe a cool refreshing adult beverage of another variety that either brought Cold Mountain refreshment or had More taste...than them other shitty brands...lol..;) Quoting: SHRYou know, I learned so much about the true nature of beer when I decided to take a few trips to the countryside of the US. So THAT's why they drink that stuff! Crimes against beer... Last Edited by Least Servant on 02/28/2011 02:29 PM :romaflag: Not enough to fight, too many to die. |
Pollyannuh User ID: 1146299 United States 02/28/2011 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHAT??? I'm probably one of the few real people here! Some of the people here and I know each other in the "real world" and I've also had off the board contact with some mods. Give me a break, A.C. 653278. Who the pluck are YOU? Besides, I stick to the topic on a thread, I don't come in and start flaming another subject. What a ding-dong thing to say. You don't even know me. That is Pollyanna to a frick'in T Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653278I hate polly |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1280180 Germany 02/28/2011 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's true Quoting: ^TrInItY^and the technology and diligence it takes to keep them out and level the playing field while still allowing anonymous posting is enormous we seek true information exchange here a forum free of these evil influences! lol seriously though... :) You have earned a HUGE THANK YOU from me! GLP is so much better now. Thank you Trin! |
Pollyannuh User ID: 1146299 United States 02/28/2011 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You hit that right on, SHR. The ultimate "marketing" tool. Only worse. The real "Battlefield" is in your head...and has been for a while... Quoting: SHRIf you think going to ground war is the big leagues for a few billion bucks worth of merely cheaper oil deals then ask yourself how much selling Iphones, Spring fresh whateva, Psycho-pharma drugs etc etc is worth...every day, week, month...for years on end...and you don't need a war machine in the classic sense to do it either, which aren't all that easy to come by. We buy 100 of millions of bottles of what mostly is bottled tap water every month...at a price that is more than double the price of gasoline in many cases...why?...because we "want" it... It creates the next "Star"...get's the next politician elected, the next new fad, the latest and greatest "thing"...the next thing you fight against or fight for...it's where the battle for influence really is. |
The Other Guy (OP) User ID: 1264774 United States 02/28/2011 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHAT??? Quoting: PollyannuhI'm probably one of the few real people here! Some of the people here and I know each other in the "real world" and I've also had off the board contact with some mods. Give me a break, A.C. 653278. Who the pluck are YOU? Besides, I stick to the topic on a thread, I don't come in and start flaming another subject. What a ding-dong thing to say. You don't even know me. That is Pollyanna to a frick'in T Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653278I hate polly Lol. Why do I picture your head doing the ghetto head bob when you say, "You don't know me" lol just kidding. Your daily dose of sanity in an insane world. |
The Other Guy (OP) User ID: 1264774 United States 02/28/2011 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You hit that right on, SHR. Quoting: PollyannuhThe ultimate "marketing" tool. Only worse. The real "Battlefield" is in your head...and has been for a while... Quoting: SHRIf you think going to ground war is the big leagues for a few billion bucks worth of merely cheaper oil deals then ask yourself how much selling Iphones, Spring fresh whateva, Psycho-pharma drugs etc etc is worth...every day, week, month...for years on end...and you don't need a war machine in the classic sense to do it either, which aren't all that easy to come by. We buy 100 of millions of bottles of what mostly is bottled tap water every month...at a price that is more than double the price of gasoline in many cases...why?...because we "want" it... It creates the next "Star"...get's the next politician elected, the next new fad, the latest and greatest "thing"...the next thing you fight against or fight for...it's where the battle for influence really is. You're heard about a product having "buzz on the streets" well this is a way to create "artificial buzz" and troll the people who don't like the product. Your daily dose of sanity in an insane world. |
GaGal User ID: 1013803 United States 02/28/2011 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its like the anti union shills. Those are paid shills. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279703Only an ignorant fool who never had to work in a factory before would be anti union. Yes, there is corruption in unions, there is always currouption in anything. You dont throw out the baby with the bathwater. Well, we should throw out the PUBLIC bathwater, now shouldn't we? |
SHR Forum Administrator 02/28/2011 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You hit that right on, SHR. Quoting: PollyannuhThe ultimate "marketing" tool. Only worse. Thank you Pollybot...would you like to know more?... lol!...;) ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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Godsontoo User ID: 1258525 United States 02/28/2011 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This clearly happened with the shit in Wisconsin. How much money did the Koch brothers put out for it I wonder. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141935I don't know about that one. I am from Wisconsin and I can see, even from my friends Facebook arguments, that this issue has bitterly divided the state and the nation. The discussions on here get very heated and you can tell it's a genuine sign of emotion. And that is exactly the point , have the masses squabble over the crumbs while the pie gets eaten. WAKE UP PEOPLE A Psalm of David. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever. †. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 885363 Canada 02/28/2011 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You mean i could be getting paid to do this? wait ,, only if it pays more then my unemployment !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1261840LoL how many of us true GLP TARDS have had this thought! Ive even been to football message boards with shills on the rant page. Usually same screen name but there 24/7 so obviously more than one person using that alias. Almost immediately after you post a topic or reply they come magically armed with with reams of text, much more than a casual user would type. The tactic is to overwhelm you with multiple false points that take hours to counter thus taking up all your time in a hunting expedition all the while convincing the others that their false paradigm is really the truth. Now where do I apply for that job? |
Pollyannuh User ID: 1146299 United States 02/28/2011 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, it would be funny to see me doing that kind of movement to underscore a point. One of the things I don't ever want to be guilty of is rash judgement, so when it's directed to me, unwarranted, I might add, I have to wonder if the perp might be one of those "disinfo agents" spoken about. At any rate, The Other Guy... Lol. Why do I picture your head doing the ghetto head bob when you say, "You don't know me" lol just kidding. Quoting: The Other Guy |
Burt Gummer User ID: 989406 United States 02/28/2011 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just read an article on the Guardian that is apparently blocked here about companies using armies of paid users to log onto forums and actively troll them and argue with anyone who has a negative view of what they were paid to promote. Sound familiar? I remember seeing a post a while back about the US Airforce's purchase of software to do this exact thing, but apparently companies are doing it now too. Quoting: The Other GuyJust google Guardian Astroturfing and it's the second link down. Link to that SOCKPUPPET SOFTWARE story and info..... [link to www.opinion-maker.org] |
Pollyannuh User ID: 1146299 United States 02/28/2011 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly. This is just the next step in marketing programs. Look how far back Neilsen ratings were being done. That was probably not even the beginning of collecting data. They can track eyes in an audience to see what part of the currently viewable commercial/advertisment, etc., is being looked at on tv. Soon they'll know how many times we go to the bathroom or have sex. However, this is not all benign. Nefarious agendas are afoot. You hit that right on, SHR. Quoting: PollyannuhThe ultimate "marketing" tool. Only worse. The real "Battlefield" is in your head...and has been for a while... Quoting: SHRIf you think going to ground war is the big leagues for a few billion bucks worth of merely cheaper oil deals then ask yourself how much selling Iphones, Spring fresh whateva, Psycho-pharma drugs etc etc is worth...every day, week, month...for years on end...and you don't need a war machine in the classic sense to do it either, which aren't all that easy to come by. We buy 100 of millions of bottles of what mostly is bottled tap water every month...at a price that is more than double the price of gasoline in many cases...why?...because we "want" it... It creates the next "Star"...get's the next politician elected, the next new fad, the latest and greatest "thing"...the next thing you fight against or fight for...it's where the battle for influence really is. You're heard about a product having "buzz on the streets" well this is a way to create "artificial buzz" and troll the people who don't like the product. Last Edited by Pollyannuh on 02/28/2011 03:07 PM |
EchoM User ID: 1269702 United States 02/28/2011 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You mean i could be getting paid to do this? wait ,, only if it pays more then my unemployment !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1261840You lucky bastard...I've been trying to get fired for 3 years now!!! But this job sounds like something I would love to transfer to, as well. [link to 2012pleiades.junk] spam site/ |