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Arizona PSYOP 'trial': Feds say keep autopsies in Tucson-area shootings private!

 
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Because there were no bodies and no real autopsies.

Feds: Keep autopsies in Tucson-area shootings private

Federal prosecutors have asked a judge to block the public release of the autopsy findings for the six people killed in the Tucson-area shootings that also left Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) gravely injured.

In a request Monday, the prosecutors pursuing the case against alleged shooter Jared Lee Loughner asked U.S. District Judge Larry Burns to place a gag order on the autopsies and to bar the Pima County medical examiner's staff from talking to the media about the case. The prosecutors said in their filing that the families of five of the victims have requested that the autopsy results be kept private.



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What does all this mean?
Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.
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ooooh, I get it!
Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.
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What does all this mean?
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It means they've got something to hide. It couldn't mean anything else.
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Because there were no bodies and no real autopsies.
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+1000

many of us on GLP here knew the day it happened that the whole thing was staged. every single aspect of that event was suspicious.

strange times we live in.
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Anyone heard anything on how Giffords is supposedly doing?
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Tucson Firefighter Refused to Respond
By THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: February 17, 2011


Firefighter Ekstrum “mentioned something about ‘political bantering’ and he did not want to be part of it.” Exactly what the disagreement was over remained unclear.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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Nothing to see here. The precedent has already been set...


High Court Refuses to Limit Gag Orders in U.S. Criminal Cases

By Greg Stohr - October 2, 2006 10:37 EDT


Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Supreme Court, turning away an appeal by lawyer and television commentator Gloria Allred, refused to limit judges' power to impose gag orders on attorneys and other participants in criminal trials.

The justices, without comment, today rejected Allred's arguments that a judge's order in the murder trial of Scott Dyleski violated the U.S. Constitution's free-speech guarantee. Participants including Allred, who represented Dyleski's girlfriend, were barred from revealing non-public evidence in the case.

The Supreme Court has never considered the rules governing gag orders in criminal cases. Judges issued orders limiting discussion in recent criminal proceedings involving singer Michael Jackson and basketball star Kobe Bryant.

``In virtually every high profile case, it is now routine for trial courts to issue broad gag orders preventing attorneys, parties and witnesses from making public statements,'' Allred argued in papers filed in Washington.

....

[link to www.bloomberg.com]
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This is just the begining...Wait and see what happens next.
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What does all this mean?
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Our Government's involved

'nuff said
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Nothing to see here. The precedent has already been set...


High Court Refuses to Limit Gag Orders in U.S. Criminal Cases

By Greg Stohr - October 2, 2006 10:37 EDT


Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Supreme Court, turning away an appeal by lawyer and television commentator Gloria Allred, refused to limit judges' power to impose gag orders on attorneys and other participants in criminal trials.

The justices, without comment, today rejected Allred's arguments that a judge's order in the murder trial of Scott Dyleski violated the U.S. Constitution's free-speech guarantee. Participants including Allred, who represented Dyleski's girlfriend, were barred from revealing non-public evidence in the case.

The Supreme Court has never considered the rules governing gag orders in criminal cases. Judges issued orders limiting discussion in recent criminal proceedings involving singer Michael Jackson and basketball star Kobe Bryant.

``In virtually every high profile case, it is now routine for trial courts to issue broad gag orders preventing attorneys, parties and witnesses from making public statements,'' Allred argued in papers filed in Washington.

....

[link to www.bloomberg.com]
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This would invalidate EVERY statement by every 'witness' made to the press...
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Nothing to see here. The precedent has already been set...


High Court Refuses to Limit Gag Orders in U.S. Criminal Cases

By Greg Stohr - October 2, 2006 10:37 EDT


Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Supreme Court, turning away an appeal by lawyer and television commentator Gloria Allred, refused to limit judges' power to impose gag orders on attorneys and other participants in criminal trials.

The justices, without comment, today rejected Allred's arguments that a judge's order in the murder trial of Scott Dyleski violated the U.S. Constitution's free-speech guarantee. Participants including Allred, who represented Dyleski's girlfriend, were barred from revealing non-public evidence in the case.

The Supreme Court has never considered the rules governing gag orders in criminal cases. Judges issued orders limiting discussion in recent criminal proceedings involving singer Michael Jackson and basketball star Kobe Bryant.

``In virtually every high profile case, it is now routine for trial courts to issue broad gag orders preventing attorneys, parties and witnesses from making public statements,'' Allred argued in papers filed in Washington.

....

[link to www.bloomberg.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1252153


This would invalidate EVERY statement by every 'witness' made to the press...
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You're missing the point of the court's decision.
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I don't understand what there is to hide...A kid went crazy and shot people.
It's possible that they just don't want the autopsy pics floating around.
Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.
-Bill Hicks
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Any motive for the killings?
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Nothing to see here. The precedent has already been set...


High Court Refuses to Limit Gag Orders in U.S. Criminal Cases

By Greg Stohr - October 2, 2006 10:37 EDT


Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Supreme Court, turning away an appeal by lawyer and television commentator Gloria Allred, refused to limit judges' power to impose gag orders on attorneys and other participants in criminal trials.

The justices, without comment, today rejected Allred's arguments that a judge's order in the murder trial of Scott Dyleski violated the U.S. Constitution's free-speech guarantee. Participants including Allred, who represented Dyleski's girlfriend, were barred from revealing non-public evidence in the case.

The Supreme Court has never considered the rules governing gag orders in criminal cases. Judges issued orders limiting discussion in recent criminal proceedings involving singer Michael Jackson and basketball star Kobe Bryant.

``In virtually every high profile case, it is now routine for trial courts to issue broad gag orders preventing attorneys, parties and witnesses from making public statements,'' Allred argued in papers filed in Washington.

....

[link to www.bloomberg.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1252153


This would invalidate EVERY statement by every 'witness' made to the press...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280914


You're missing the point of the court's decision.
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What's the point? That it's not unprecedented for this to happen and there's no 'conspiracy' involved? The Feds will get their gag order imposed - nothing to see - move along? I understand that point very well. Or do you see another point?

If we play along, this works both ways - which means that everything said to the press by everyone involved can easily be invalidated and thrown out as substantiating 'evidence' if such an order is allowed.
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It means that since the US Federal Government in Washington DC, it is a private Corporation and it does not have to share its private business affairs with its employees, the US Citizens.

That is what it means.
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I don't understand what there is to hide...A kid went crazy and shot people.
It's possible that they just don't want the autopsy pics floating around.
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If I were a defense attorney, I'd motion to have every body exhumed and autopsies re-peformed. Oh, but wait, that can't be done because supposedly some of the vicims were cremated and the girl's organs were donated! Evidence destroyed.
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I don't get it either. There couldn't be anything in particular for the victims families to hide, I would thing. Maybe prosecutors are using this reason as an excuse to block autopsy info, but why?
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I don't understand what there is to hide...A kid went crazy and shot people.
It's possible that they just don't want the autopsy pics floating around.
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you only think 'a kid went crazy and shot people' because that is what you were told by the media.

did you see what happened? did you see any VIDEO of the event? how about just one picture of any time during the event?

you would have to look at all the suspicious circumstances there are surrounding the event. and there are TONS. do a search on GLP there were some good threads with compiled info. the whole thing screams staged psy-op.
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Because there were no bodies and no real autopsies.
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+1000

many of us on GLP here knew the day it happened that the whole thing was staged. every single aspect of that event was suspicious.

strange times we live in.
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The JUDGE was the real target...
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Interesting. I kind of had the feeling it was a staged event.
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In the memo, Captain Williams said the firefighter had said “there were underlying issues regarding the call that brought up a lot of anger and made him ineffective as a firefighter.”
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Sounds like someone suspected what was really going on, and didn't want to be a part of it.
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exactly, the judge was the target. The autopsy gag is because there was more than one shooter and the autopsy results would prove it. (Round/wound counts)My bet is the patsy prolly only hit a couple but the guy with the MP5 or maybe a 9mm AR-15 did the lions share of the damage.

That parking lot was HEAVILY surveilled..Good thing all the video was seized under "national security" warning to any good police investigating this kind of stuff, you better watch your backs- you know what happened to the cops that started sniffin' around after OK City...
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im with ceawaves---Judge was the targetdamned
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I live in Az and I agree that the judge was the target... The firefighter story is really odd... Also this same thing somewhat happened to the retired politician in WADC where he was found in a dump... That was a sign to the world 'dont mess with us'...
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I don't understand what there is to hide...A kid went crazy and shot people.
It's possible that they just don't want the autopsy pics floating around.
 Quoting: googooflexy


you only think 'a kid went crazy and shot people' because that is what you were told by the media.

did you see what happened? did you see any VIDEO of the event? how about just one picture of any time during the event?

you would have to look at all the suspicious circumstances there are surrounding the event. and there are TONS. do a search on GLP there were some good threads with compiled info. the whole thing screams staged psy-op.

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Absolutely. Learn to think outside the media template like this person.

No video. No surveillance video. No hand-held cell phone video.

Or more precisely, no video that they PERMIT YOU TO SEE.

Likewise, no pics.

No pics of Gifford recovering in the hospital.

A few other people that supposedly died... that we hear nothing about.

A suspected shooter whom we only see in the form of a creepy mug shot. No other pics of him since then.

A FEDERAL JUDGE that died, and is barely mentioned in any of the reporting by the media.


Add it all up, skippy. Then think outside the box.
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The JUDGE was the real target...
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No, it was Giffords.

She was supporting a crack down on illegals and pissed of the DNC and Obama. The judge was there to tell her about the massive amount of violent drug cartel crime infiltrating the State from Mexico. Many of our politicans are funded by the drug cartels, Obama included.
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The JUDGE was the real target...
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No, it was Giffords.

She was supporting a crack down on illegals and pissed of the DNC and Obama. The judge was there to tell her about the massive amount of violent drug cartel crime infiltrating the State from Mexico. Many of our politicans are funded by the drug cartels, Obama included.
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Then why is she still alive?
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What does all this mean?
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It was a psyop.


That's about the crux of it.





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