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i have found the most interesting paper...i do not know much about it's origin.
but i am throwing it out for a good read.

it really gets into CMEs and goes way....way back in time.
the writer gets into cycles of CME's and flares and solar storm strengths that do not following the typical solar cycles.

after reading this i think the 7.6mph CME that just happened just might be one of the fastest ever recorded! and that may include the super storm from 1859.

here is the link
[link to solarmuri.ssl.berkeley.edu]
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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i have found the most interesting paper...i do not know much about it's origin.
but i am throwing it out for a good read.

it really gets into CMEs and goes way....way back in time.
the writer gets into cycles of CME's and flares and solar storm strengths that do not following the typical solar cycles.

after reading this i think the 7.6mph CME that just happened just might be one of the fastest ever recorded! and that may include the super storm from 1859.

here is the link
[link to solarmuri.ssl.berkeley.edu]
 Quoting: psyoptics


INTERESTING story Psyoptics..

loved this bit:

"This CME had everything going for it. It was fast: In just 17 hours, the
cloud swept across the entire inner solar system at a speed of 5 million
mph (8 million km/h). The dense wall of plasma also possessed a
southward-pointing magnetic field, which enhanced its potential impact.
At 4h40m UT September 2, part of this monster plasma cloud brushed past
Earth.

Our planet resides in a protective bubble created by its magnetic field
and ions trapped inside it. Within minutes of the clouds impact, the
entire Sun-facing hemisphere of Earth's magnetic bubble was compressed
until it reached the outer atmosphere's fringes. The blow instantly
affected the ozone layer, reducing this ultraviolet-absorbing gas so
much -- by about 5 percent -- that it took years to recover to pre-storm
levels."


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The other half of NASA's Living with a Star program, the Radiation Belt Storm Probes are scheduled to go up in roughly a month. Wonder how long it will take for public data...

[link to rbsp.jhuapl.edu]

Whilst I was reading about the RBSPs above, I stumbled across this:

[link to www.nasa.gov]

~ To distinguish between a host of theories developed over the years on plasma movement in those near-Earth environs, RBSP scientists have designed a suite of instruments to answer three broad questions. Where do the extra energy and particles come from? Where do they disappear to, and what sends them on their way? How do these changes affect the rest of Earth's magnetic environment, the magnetosphere? In addition to its broad range of instruments, the RBSP mission will make use of two spacecraft in order to better map out the full spatial dimensions of a particular event and how it changes over time. ~

Very interesting to me as info gained will kind of 'bring it home' to earth...a more 'tangible' connection as it were.

Be sure to watch the vid showing the effects of a large storm in 2003 on the radiation belts.

rockon

EDIT: I meant to say another part...not the other part. The LWS program has a lot of stuff going on.
[link to lws.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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well the name Sibeck shoots us right back to magnetic crack research and the THEMIS project
[link to www.nasa.gov]
and that is a hole of no info.
there is no up to date data on this project.

and loops back to some way out there thoughts about our solar system moving into a bad area of the Galaxy.
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i have found the most interesting paper...i do not know much about it's origin.
but i am throwing it out for a good read.

it really gets into CMEs and goes way....way back in time.
the writer gets into cycles of CME's and flares and solar storm strengths that do not following the typical solar cycles.

after reading this i think the 7.6mph CME that just happened just might be one of the fastest ever recorded! and that may include the super storm from 1859.

here is the link
[link to solarmuri.ssl.berkeley.edu]
 Quoting: psyoptics


INTERESTING story Psyoptics..

loved this bit:

"This CME had everything going for it. It was fast: In just 17 hours, the
cloud swept across the entire inner solar system at a speed of 5 million
mph (8 million km/h). The dense wall of plasma also possessed a
southward-pointing magnetic field, which enhanced its potential impact.
At 4h40m UT September 2, part of this monster plasma cloud brushed past
Earth.

Our planet resides in a protective bubble created by its magnetic field
and ions trapped inside it. Within minutes of the clouds impact, the
entire Sun-facing hemisphere of Earth's magnetic bubble was compressed
until it reached the outer atmosphere's fringes. The blow instantly
affected the ozone layer, reducing this ultraviolet-absorbing gas so
much -- by about 5 percent -- that it took years to recover to pre-storm
levels."


[link to solarmuri.ssl.berkeley.edu]
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


that was 5 million we just had 7.6 million!
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Lockheed Martin 22-Apr-2010 9:06 AM
PALO ALTO, Calif., April 22, 2010 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ --Spectacular "first light" images and data from the three state-of-the art instruments on NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) were unveiled yesterday morning by NASA. The SDO spacecraft was launched aboard a United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket from the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station on February 11, 2010.
Two of the SDO instruments were built at the Solar and Astrophysics Laboratory of the Lockheed Martin (NYSE: LMT) Advanced Technology Center (ATC) in Palo Alto. The Atmospheric Imaging Assembly (AIA), a suite of four telescopes, provides an unprecedented view of the solar corona, taking images that span at least 1.3 solar diameters in multiple wavelengths nearly simultaneously, at a resolution of 0.6 arc-seconds and at a cadence of 10 seconds or better. The Helioseismic and Magnetic Imager (HMI), designed in collaboration with Professor Philip Scherrer, HMI Principal Investigator, and other scientists at Stanford University, studies the origin of solar variability and attempts to characterize and understand the Sun's interior and magnetic activity. The third SDO instrument, the Extreme Ultraviolet Variability Experiment (EVE), measures fluctuations in the Sun's ultraviolet output. EVE was built by the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics (LASP) at the University of Colorado.
"We could not be more pleased with what we're seeing from AIA. The 4096 by 4096 pixel Charge-Coupled Device (CCD) on this instrument gives us images that would require 12 high definition televisions to display them at their native resolution," said physicist - and Principal Investigator of AIA - Dr. Alan Title of the ATC. "AIA is now providing the kind of data we need to unravel mysteries of the Sun that have been just beyond our grasp. Looking at a razor sharp full Sun in a broad range of temperature bands every 10 seconds will give us unprecedented insight into the processes that determine the evolution of the corona."

The complete article and everything that you ever wanted to know about what SDO will do is here: [link to forum.nasaspaceflight.com]
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ok have have now scary the shit out of my self.

i might just be connecting too many dot today. too many name are popping up as i research this. name that are sending back to crazy research i did years ago.
with scientists like DR. ALEXEY N. DMITRIEV.
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is this guy BS?
is this article BS?

[link to cosmoquest.org]

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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

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A B9.9....but i think shes brewing something up...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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the Sun during a flare can strike neutral atoms (usually carbon dioxide) in the atmosphere so hard that they knock loose an electron, creating a free electron and a positive ion. If enough of these electrons and ions build up in the atmosphere, they can interfere with radio waves. That is what was happening to the Mars Express.
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

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area 1530...caused the B9.9 (S20E82)
Definately a few active regions coming around the bend...interesting week ahead.

[link to www.lmsal.com]

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Plasma Waves Move Faster Than Shockwaves
July 20, 2012

................More than 99 percent of the matter found in the universe resembles nothing like what we have here on Earth, according to scientists from NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland.

Instead of materials that we, as humans, can touch and see, and motions that we expect to exist like that of gravity, most of the universe is actually governed by rules that react to such things as magnetic force or electrical charge. For example, a cup that we would see sitting on a table on Earth adhering to the force of gravity, elsewhere in the universe this cup might be magnetized and attracted to a metal ceiling above, floating upward, yet resting in the space between the ceiling and the table, balanced by the forces of gravity and magnetism....................

.................Wilson and colleagues studied coronal mass ejections (CMEs) — solar material that explodes off the Sun traveling through space at excessive speed. They found that these CMEs move so much faster than the background solar wind that they create shock waves which are similar to those produced by a supersonic jet when it breaks the sound barrier in our atmosphere................
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LONG RANGE OUTLOOK: A stream of solar wind is heading for Earth, due to arrive on July 28-30. High-latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras on those dates in case the impact sparks geomagnetic storms.

[link to spaceweather.com]
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Good morning everyone hf

Hey, anyone notice they switched all the 1529 flares yesterday to 1530 on Solarsoft ???

I had a feeling .....

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they recalculated the speed of yesterdays CME
it was FASTER than they 1st reported

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph
[link to spaceweather.com]

HOLY WOW!
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This is getting scary- man, I don't want to see what would happen if something like this was Earth-facing!

And, I just read on Bloomberg that European corn is being hit by a damaging heat-wave. The earth can't take much more heat. This sucks.

Good morning everyone.
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December 21 2012. Heatwave. Killshot. Everyone dies due to massive proton bath from Sun.... Thread: Ed Dames’ Killshot Solar Flare coming next month August 2012 due to Nibiru

endendexplosion
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look at this
VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's rapid departure from the sun:

now they are classifying this as a Rare or R
well there very own video would clearly put this as an ER or extremely rare.
they even state it only happens once every 5 to 10 year....that and the speed would clearly put it in the classification of ER
 Quoting: psyoptics


Let's calculate:

Speed of light=186,000 km/s. 10% of that speed=18, 600 km/s. 5% of that speed=9,300 km/s. 2.5% of that speed=4,650 km/s. The speed of that CME is around 2% the speed of light!!!! gasp

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electrons on the rise.... [link to www.n3kl.org]
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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

proton flux very high. Why??? wtf
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[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]



HO LEE SHIT !!!!
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Maybe that's why
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They also have 1529 and 1530 classified as alphas class regions
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

1529 S12E57 221 70 2 HSX 1 A
1530 S19E68 210 90 4 HSX 1 A


when they appear to be at least beta class solar regions
[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

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look at this
VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's rapid departure from the sun:

now they are classifying this as a Rare or R
well there very own video would clearly put this as an ER or extremely rare.
they even state it only happens once every 5 to 10 year....that and the speed would clearly put it in the classification of ER
 Quoting: psyoptics


Let's calculate:

Speed of light=186,000 km/s. 10% of that speed=18, 600 km/s. 5% of that speed=9,300 km/s. 2.5% of that speed=4,650 km/s. The speed of that CME is around 2% the speed of light!!!! gasp
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186,000 miles per second.. 700 million miles per hour.


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Thanks for this thread you guys are greathfthese photos and my gut, tells me we are about to get very hothiding

[link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]
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look at this
VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's rapid departure from the sun:

now they are classifying this as a Rare or R
well there very own video would clearly put this as an ER or extremely rare.
they even state it only happens once every 5 to 10 year....that and the speed would clearly put it in the classification of ER
 Quoting: psyoptics


Let's calculate:

Speed of light=186,000 km/s. 10% of that speed=18, 600 km/s. 5% of that speed=9,300 km/s. 2.5% of that speed=4,650 km/s. The speed of that CME is around 2% the speed of light!!!! gasp
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


186,000 miles per second.. 700 million miles per hour.


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Meaning translated to km/s would be around 300,000 km/s for speed of light.
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look at this
VERY FAST FARSIDE CME (UPDATED): On July 23rd, a coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun with rare speed: 3400 km/s or 7.6 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's rapid departure from the sun:

now they are classifying this as a Rare or R
well there very own video would clearly put this as an ER or extremely rare.
they even state it only happens once every 5 to 10 year....that and the speed would clearly put it in the classification of ER
 Quoting: psyoptics


Let's calculate:

Speed of light=186,000 km/s. 10% of that speed=18, 600 km/s. 5% of that speed=9,300 km/s. 2.5% of that speed=4,650 km/s. The speed of that CME is around 2% the speed of light!!!! gasp
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


186,000 miles per second.. 700 million miles per hour.


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[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]



HO LEE SHIT !!!!
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yes.... check it out in the streamer !!
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its gone!!!!!!!!!!!!

did anyone see it on the streamer???

Swear... i haven't been observing this but a couple of years but it was HUGE....
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its gone!!!!!!!!!!!!

did anyone see it on the streamer???

Swear... i haven't been observing this but a couple of years but it was HUGE....
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Good morning all
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Good morning all
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Good morning to both of you! :)
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Thread: How does this compare in solar events. Happened hours ago.


that was the thread i saw it on this morning.... anywhere else we could see something like that???


i don't get excited about alot but that i did when i saw it.... obviously a mistake or edited.... hmmmm

that's the last time i don't take a screen shot when i see something like that!

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