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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
Helios Maximus

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2-week view of solar magnetic activity courtesy of Lockheed-Martin- (click 'slower' for full enjoyment):

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2-week view of solar magnetic activity courtesy of Lockheed-Martin- (click 'slower' for full enjoyment):

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Lol Cool On swing mode on and fast..it's almost like The Sun is Dancing chuckle
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
so, I found this on a tweet by an enthusiast...

"There is no doubt that the CME erupted from the Sun with a WNE configuration, so no Bz south!"

does this make sense? Hugh?
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No, how could anything be West-North-East?
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I think I may check out the sky around 5-6am. :)

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2-week view of solar magnetic activity courtesy of Lockheed-Martin- (click 'slower' for full enjoyment):

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 Quoting: Helios Maximus


Excellent post. There does seem to be some rhyme and rhythm to that movement.
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This could be fun to watch over the next few hours :)

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This could be fun to watch over the next few hours :)

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Noice! Or tomorrow when it drops further south hopefully.
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When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me

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ok, a little moar..


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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
so, I found this on a tweet by an enthusiast...

"There is no doubt that the CME erupted from the Sun with a WNE configuration, so no Bz south!"

does this make sense? Hugh?
 Quoting: OpenEnded..


Not to me. What is WNE (west-north-east?)?? I'm not sure you can predict the polarity of a filament eruption nor any CME for that matter. This was a major area of curiosity last cycle and I found many articles of heliophysicists bemoaning the fact they can't predict polarity of CMEs 'til they reach ACE or DSCVR. Hopefully, the Parker Solar Probe can help answer some of these conundrums.

Sometimes these transients flip polarities back 'n forth in a seemingly random manner. We have much to learn! Terrestrial weather forecasts have gotten very good in the Space Age, but extra-terrestrial weather has a long way to go.
The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.

~ Thomas Jefferson, Inaugural Address, 1801


It is not only vain, but wicked, in a legislator to frame laws in opposition to the laws of nature, and to arm them with the terrors of death. This is truly creating crimes in order to punish them.

~ Thomas Jefferson, 1779
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so, I found this on a tweet by an enthusiast...

"There is no doubt that the CME erupted from the Sun with a WNE configuration, so no Bz south!"

does this make sense? Hugh?
 Quoting: OpenEnded..


Not to me. What is WNE (west-north-east?)?? I'm not sure you can predict the polarity of a filament eruption nor any CME for that matter. This was a major area of curiosity last cycle and I found many articles of heliophysicists bemoaning the fact they can't predict polarity of CMEs 'til they reach ACE or DSCVR. Hopefully, the Parker Solar Probe can help answer some of these conundrums.

Sometimes these transients flip polarities back 'n forth in a seemingly random manner. We have much to learn! Terrestrial weather forecasts have gotten very good in the Space Age, but extra-terrestrial weather has a long way to go.
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well, erika ^^^ seems to have it all worked out..

1dunno1

and she's hot (off topic, sorry)..
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 Quoting: OpenEnded..


That much makes sense, just not the other. She’s not my type, lol.
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
As far as I can tell that would take some serious modeling that we do not have to dtermine magnetic structure of erruption and predict coupling like that. Just a can of computing worms that nasa would never share with us
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Nice citation, but I'm just a humble reporter. I'm not a physicist, I actually studied Shakespeare, music & philosophy more. When you want to study flux ropes and such, check out the Lockheed SUNGATE portal:

[link to www.lmsal.com (secure)]

Also Lockheed's IRAS data:

[link to iris.lmsal.com (secure)]

Our knowledge keeps expanding, but most all predictions turned out wrong about this event.
The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.

~ Thomas Jefferson, Inaugural Address, 1801


It is not only vain, but wicked, in a legislator to frame laws in opposition to the laws of nature, and to arm them with the terrors of death. This is truly creating crimes in order to punish them.

~ Thomas Jefferson, 1779
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As far as I can tell that would take some serious modeling that we do not have to dtermine magnetic structure of erruption and predict coupling like that. Just a can of computing worms that nasa would never share with us
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that's my thought too.. she's a cute little noob though so I guess the "experts" coddle her certainty for amusement..
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The chimps at NOAA finally saw my post 3 HOURS LATER!


Space Weather Message Code: SUMSUD
Serial Number: 226
Issue Time: 2020 Dec 10 0447 UTC

SUMMARY: Geomagnetic Sudden Impulse
Observed: 2020 Dec 10 0211 UTC
Deviation: 30 nT
Station: BOU


NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

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Well, we did see those magnetic field lines jerking around like crazy yesterday on the enlil and I did wonder how that would impact the cme. I “feel” the cme got swept to the side so to speak.
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Our knowledge keeps expanding, but most all predictions turned out wrong about this event.
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and most of the others.. thou speaketh wisely sir H..
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
IRIS close-up of some filaments lifting off during the C7 event:

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More on IRIS mission:

[link to www.nasa.gov (secure)]

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The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.

~ Thomas Jefferson, Inaugural Address, 1801


It is not only vain, but wicked, in a legislator to frame laws in opposition to the laws of nature, and to arm them with the terrors of death. This is truly creating crimes in order to punish them.

~ Thomas Jefferson, 1779
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
SOLAR DOOM REVISITED!

September 2017's Intense Solar Activity Viewed From Space-

September 2017 saw a spate of solar activity, with the Sun emitting 27 M-class and four X-class flares and releasing several powerful coronal mass ejections, or CMEs, between Sept. 6-10. Solar flares are powerful bursts of radiation, while coronal mass ejections are massive clouds of solar material and magnetic fields that erupt from the Sun at incredible speeds.....

Harmful radiation from a flare cannot pass through Earth’s atmosphere to physically affect humans on the ground, however — when intense enough — they can disturb the atmosphere in the layer where GPS and communications signals travel. On the other hand, depending on the direction they’re traveling in, CMEs can spark powerful geomagnetic storms in Earth’s magnetic field.....

More here:
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9/2017-Xrays
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~ Thomas Jefferson, Inaugural Address, 1801


It is not only vain, but wicked, in a legislator to frame laws in opposition to the laws of nature, and to arm them with the terrors of death. This is truly creating crimes in order to punish them.

~ Thomas Jefferson, 1779
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I pooped a little when that happened.
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I pooped a little when that happened.
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I think we all did..
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Can you guys feel the energy?
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I can't yet, but I'm expecting to. Are you feeling it now?
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I was getting a lot of pulsing whooshing in my ears before I went to bed last night, I’ve started to notice it happens with space weather and geo magnetic storms, not so much on a kp zero day though, slept well and feel ok this morning.
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Prolly nuttin, but here in Finland they just announced cold shutdown of one nuclear plant. Steam vent leaked or something "minor clitch". You'd do that maybe if strong geostorm approaching. Let's see if it comes.
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Let's take that cold shutdown back, they revised it and now are saying that was "wrong term".
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the 2nd and stronger didnt arrived yet

my 5 cts
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
another nasa/noaa failed prediction.. G3?

11 years later and the chimps haven't learned a thing..

hmmm... M 6.1 - 25 km E of Yilan, Taiwan
2020-12-10 13:19:58 (UTC)24.763°N 122.010°E73.2 km depth

Last Edited by OpenEnded.. on 12/10/2020 11:57 AM
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"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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M 6.0 - south of the Kermadec Islands
2020-12-10 20:42:06 (UTC)32.976°S 179.760°W82.7 km depth

that's 2 @ 6+ so far today..
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"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
THE STORM HAS FIZZLED: As predicted, a CME (pictured below) hit Earth's magnetic field during the early hours of Dec. 10th (1:30 UT), but the impact did not cause a geomagnetic storm. Mid-latitude auroras are not likely tonight.

Why didn't the CME cause a storm? Every CME brings with it some magnetic field from the sun. If that magnetic field points south, it opens cracks in Earth's magnetic field, allowing solar wind to flow inside and fuel auroras. On the other hand, if the CME's magnetic field points north, it seals cracks in Earth's magnetic field, blocking the solar wind and quenching storms.

This CME brought a storm-killing north magnetic field. So, even though the velocity of the solar wind in the CME's wake flirted with a high value of 600 km/s, it was ineffective in causing geomagnetic storms and auroras.

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