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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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posted before:
The Sun's Magnetic Field
The electric currents in the Sun generate a complex magnetic field with extends out into interplanetary space to form the interplanetary magnetic field. As the Sun's magnetic field is carried out through the solar system by the solar wind, the Sun is rotating. Its rotation winds up the magnetic field into a large rotating spiral, known as the Parker spiral, named after the scientist who first described it.
The article is here: [link to helios.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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yep, Proton Jump... [link to www.n3kl.org]
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


Slow increase in background levels.. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Electron rise... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Fraggle (SC) ...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

[link to pixie.spasci.com]

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 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


this is most likley from the parker spiral combined with this mornings backside CME from sunspot region 1520
check out the speed on this one! wow!

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME: A coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun this morning with rare speed: 2930 km/s or 6.5 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's emergence on July 23rd starting around 0300 UT:
[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


WOW! Impressive, Nin- glad it wasn't on our side of the Sun!
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yep, Proton Jump... [link to www.n3kl.org]
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


Slow increase in background levels.. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Electron rise... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Fraggle (SC) ...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

[link to pixie.spasci.com]

Peace
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


this is most likley from the parker spiral combined with this mornings backside CME from sunspot region 1520
check out the speed on this one! wow!

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME: A coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun this morning with rare speed: 2930 km/s or 6.5 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's emergence on July 23rd starting around 0300 UT:
[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


WOW! Impressive, Nin- glad it wasn't on our side of the Sun!
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Good day to all!

My computer has viral problems, all of a sudden, and I can not seem to clear it up! That's why I haven't been on much.
tantrum
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Good to see you spidey!
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yep, Proton Jump... [link to www.n3kl.org]
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


Slow increase in background levels.. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Electron rise... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Fraggle (SC) ...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

[link to pixie.spasci.com]

Peace
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


this is most likley from the parker spiral combined with this mornings backside CME from sunspot region 1520
check out the speed on this one! wow!

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME: A coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun this morning with rare speed: 2930 km/s or 6.5 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's emergence on July 23rd starting around 0300 UT:
[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Geez, I can't even comprehend the speed on that! That's crazy fast but impressive!
 Quoting: MamaHasAwakened


WOW.........freaking fast. that would be almost 1/10th the speed of light....700 million mph so a CME would get here to earth within hours.
 Quoting: psyoptics


I remember that Carrington was pretty speedy, too. This looks like interesting doc about extreme events:

ftp://sohoftp.nascom.nasa.gov/pub/oldwww/meetings/RHESSISonom​a/RHESSI/rst/reports/wg3_summary.ppt
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Here are two noobee questions.....1)on the X-ray flux graphs, what does the blue line on the bottom represent ?(I always seem to watch only the red line). 2) why do we seem to make B Class flares seem like they are totally inconsequential? I've been watching 1125 and she's thrown out three nice little B flares. I assume they still impact earth's atmoshpere, right?
 Quoting: Isis One


At the bottom of the GOES chart is following explanation:

The GOES X-ray flux plot contains 1 minute averages of solar X-rays in the 1-8 Angstrom (0.1-0.8 nm) and 0.5-4.0 Angstrom (0.05-0.4 nm) passbands. Data from the SWPC Primary GOES X-ray satellite is shown.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Passbands are signals of a range of frequencies or wavelengths that measure x-ray flux.

We use the 1-8 Angstrom (0.1-0.8 nm)of the GOES X-ray flux chart to measure the size of a flare.

A flare whether an A,B,C,M or X's impact on earth is only as great as the size and intensity of the CME (coronal mass ejection)it may or may not produce, not necessarily the size or category of that particular flare.

That being said, it is not "typical" ( nor have I witnessed ) that a B flare would or could produce the same size CME as an M, or X flare is capable of producing. So yes a B flare can and does impact the earth's magnetosphere, again depending on the size and intensity of the CME it produces, however, chances are slim to none it would ever result in a CME as large as a C, M, or X flare, so we tend to not pay as close attention.

Hope that makes sense ??? I tried.
 Quoting: TS66


Hi TS, thanks for the info and yes it helped a lot! I did not know that the flare's potency is determined by it's CME.
I guess that gives me another question....is there no effects from a flare devoid of a CME. It looks like a pretty big flash of electromagnetic activity that could propagate far and wide to me (even without a CME). Thanks again.
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and thinking out it this effect is neither short (few minutes) unbalanced/orientation (earthquake) or immune system (flu type symptoms) of a few days
this effect is throat chakra sustained

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Hi aether, I love that you are integrating the solar effects on your body within your analysis.
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Hi, Shadasonic!sun
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yep, Proton Jump... [link to www.n3kl.org]
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


Slow increase in background levels.. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Electron rise... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Fraggle (SC) ...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

[link to pixie.spasci.com]

Peace
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


this is most likley from the parker spiral combined with this mornings backside CME from sunspot region 1520
check out the speed on this one! wow!

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME: A coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun this morning with rare speed: 2930 km/s or 6.5 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's emergence on July 23rd starting around 0300 UT:
[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


WOW! Impressive, Nin- glad it wasn't on our side of the Sun!
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Good day to all!

My computer has viral problems, all of a sudden, and I can not seem to clear it up! That's why I haven't been on much.
tantrum
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Spider, did you check to see that you've run all the current updates, especially microsoft? I found a few months ago when I did this (all the ones I kept deferring til another time), it started running MUCH better, just a thought.
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Hi Isis, yes, I have done everything! This is beyond my abilities- I have run a lot of anti-viral programs ,too.scratching
I found a backdoor hack- I think someone did this to me on purpose. I must have stepped on someone's toes....
If I find out who did it ...bash

gaah I have to go now- see ya later!
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...


Isn't region N24E80 the returning 1513 ?? According to [link to www.ips.gov.au] it rotated back into view yesterday.
 Quoting: TS66


It's the on nearly the same latitude but it didnt survive but old spot 1515 is still there to the south and aproaches also the east limb
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


If that's the case, I'm starting to have my doubts about this site. Updated today it says 1513 is still a moderate solar region, moderate activity, and stable condition.

Reg# flares level lat long area mag. state Due on
1513 M-flare(s) MODERATE 17 89 180 ALPHA STABLE 22 7 2012

*note: it hasn't changed it's status of any of the regions since I started monitoring the site last week.
 Quoting: TS66

dang these silly SS numbers
i have been following 1515 and it's friends the whole way around.

now i see this
[link to sidc.oma.be]
it is so dang hard to know when they drop all reference to old numbers.
but i thought we did see 1513 come around and now there is no mistaking 1515 as it comes. it seems connected to the region above it...is that the old 1513?
any way, 1515 it coming around hot and pissed off.
even though it is listed as declining. lot us hope it will.
come hot...
or
decline...
i will leave that up to you.
 Quoting: psyoptics


i believe the status on them is listed as they were when they rotated off the western limb
and not as they are right now
this is why the status (as Declining" for 1515) would remain that same status the entire time it is on the backside in rotation
this does not mean it is declining right now, but as it was when it was last earth facing
it looks big, maintaind in size and ready to give us another show in the coming days

suntards get your rest and you needed things around home! cause we will have old region 1515 coming back in a few days
and once its ready to rotate over the western limb, we will have old sunspot region 1520 back again
busy time ahead!!!
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yep, Proton Jump... [link to www.n3kl.org]
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


Slow increase in background levels.. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Electron rise... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Fraggle (SC) ...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

[link to pixie.spasci.com]

Peace
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


this is most likley from the parker spiral combined with this mornings backside CME from sunspot region 1520
check out the speed on this one! wow!

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME: A coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun this morning with rare speed: 2930 km/s or 6.5 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's emergence on July 23rd starting around 0300 UT:
[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


Geez, I can't even comprehend the speed on that! That's crazy fast but impressive!
 Quoting: MamaHasAwakened


WOW.........freaking fast. that would be almost 1/10th the speed of light....700 million mph so a CME would get here to earth within hours.
 Quoting: psyoptics


bingo!
without doing the math, if that CME was earth facing, it would indeed be here within a small amount of hours
crazy to think of one THAT fast
but there it is
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still thinking about the fast CME.....how much does speed have to do with the impact of the CME on our planet?
i would think a lot!
 Quoting: psyoptics


think of it like a car (thats what i do... same sort of physics)
if you have a small honda hitting something going 30mph, it does damage
but if that same honda is going 100mph, it will do way more damage to that same impact object
now think of the same with a Semi
is the CME a honda or a Semi
and is it going 30 or 100?
so to speak, of course ^^

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yep, Proton Jump... [link to www.n3kl.org]
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


Slow increase in background levels.. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Electron rise... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Fraggle (SC) ...
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

[link to pixie.spasci.com]

Peace
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


this is most likley from the parker spiral combined with this mornings backside CME from sunspot region 1520
check out the speed on this one! wow!

VERY FAST FARSIDE CME: A coronal mass ejection (CME) blasted away from the sun this morning with rare speed: 2930 km/s or 6.5 million mph. CMEs moving this fast occur only once every ~5 to 10 years. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the cloud's emergence on July 23rd starting around 0300 UT:
[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez


WOW! Impressive, Nin- glad it wasn't on our side of the Sun!
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Good day to all!

My computer has viral problems, all of a sudden, and I can not seem to clear it up! That's why I haven't been on much.
tantrum
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oh no
take your time to get it cleaned up while your still able to power up and get online
do a complete sweep through
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happy "dog days" for sirius !
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well if my "symptoms" are to be believed our suns activity is in at least it`s 2nd to 3rd week of physical effects on some people (me) and it has not gone away. as in:
dropped below a level of noticeable effect
since i began monitoring my effects to our sun effects in feb 2011 this is the longest sustained effect i have detected thus far
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Me too!
 Quoting: shadasonic


Same here in Australia, I've been having one of those weeks for over three weeks now.





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Kicking a few out from the western limb today ....

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Looks like 1515 is now 1529. 1429 big one of the northern hemisphere. 1529 big one of the southern hemisphere?... We shall see.
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well if my "symptoms" are to be believed our suns activity is in at least it`s 2nd to 3rd week of physical effects on some people (me) and it has not gone away. as in:
dropped below a level of noticeable effect
since i began monitoring my effects to our sun effects in feb 2011 this is the longest sustained effect i have detected thus far
 Quoting: aether


Me too!
 Quoting: shadasonic


Same here in Australia, I've been having one of those weeks for over three weeks now.





hf rockon
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Heya MzTree!
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Headed up- C Flare?
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Headed up- C Flare?
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Looks like it's on the curve.
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Headed up- C Flare?
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Looks like it's on the curve.
 Quoting: Starry eyes


Morning there Starry!
Well, thats weird.... [link to www.irf.se]
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they better start numbering these returning SS's ...
B7.9 from S19E87...
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Proton 'Fraggle' ... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Shes hit the C-Flare lvl..C1.3 atm
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Headed up- C Flare?
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
Peace
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


Looks like it's on the curve.
 Quoting: Starry eyes


Morning there Starry!
Well, thats weird.... [link to www.irf.se]
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


Morning!
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Proton 'Fraggle' ... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Shes hit the C-Flare lvl..C1.3 atm
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


Well, what do ya know.
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Proton 'Fraggle' ... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Shes hit the C-Flare lvl..C1.3 atm
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


Well, what do ya know.
 Quoting: Starry eyes


Looks like a LDE in progress?

Edit-- Nope, she peaked at C1.4?

Last Edited by nerdrage88sasr on 07/23/2012 07:30 PM
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WOW, just WOW...check this out!
[link to www.lmsal.com]
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WOW, just WOW...check this out!
[link to www.lmsal.com]
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WOW WEE! I suppose that is what Nin was talking about!
Little break before the next show rolls around!
It is beautiful though, isn't it?
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WOW, just WOW...check this out!
[link to www.lmsal.com]
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forbidden link?
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WOW, just WOW...check this out!
[link to www.lmsal.com]
Peace
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forbidden link?
 Quoting: Starry eyes


Website decined to show this page is what I got after initially being able to see it.





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