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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
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"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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THE STORM HAS FIZZLED: As predicted, a CME (pictured below) hit Earth's magnetic field during the early hours of Dec. 10th (1:30 UT), but the impact did not cause a geomagnetic storm. Mid-latitude auroras are not likely tonight.

Why didn't the CME cause a storm? Every CME brings with it some magnetic field from the sun. If that magnetic field points south, it opens cracks in Earth's magnetic field, allowing solar wind to flow inside and fuel auroras. On the other hand, if the CME's magnetic field points north, it seals cracks in Earth's magnetic field, blocking the solar wind and quenching storms.

This CME brought a storm-killing north magnetic field. So, even though the velocity of the solar wind in the CME's wake flirted with a high value of 600 km/s, it was ineffective in causing geomagnetic storms and auroras.

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"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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chance
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More Solar Weirdness-

A dozen B-flares in a row from AR2791- a completely SPOTLESS AR. The largest was a B5.8.

Another B5.3 just came from the east limb. A new active region will be coming over soon.

AR2790 has been silent.

GONG pic of B5.8 flare:
[link to halpha.nso.edu]
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Good flare, decent cme, a very anti-climactic ending and all I got out of it was a crush on a UC Berkeley intern..

suicide
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Good flare, decent cme, a very anti-climactic ending and all I got out of it was a crush on a UC Berkeley intern..

suicide
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little laugh
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Good flare, decent cme, a very anti-climactic ending and all I got out of it was a crush on a UC Berkeley intern..

suicide
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little laugh
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her work is pretty good actually..

this is worth reading for any intermediate level suntard..

[link to agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com (secure)]
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Thanks OE! I was only giggling at your crush comment. :)
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Thanks OE! I was only giggling at your crush comment. :)
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you're just jealous, I know..

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chance
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clintyes
"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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Possible Earth-directed CME (yes, really)

Spotless AR2791 continues to flare.

24-hr SDO movie:
[link to sdodata.oma.be]

A long-duration B5 event may have sent a small CME our way.

STEREO A movie:

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov (secure)]

5a
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It is not only vain, but wicked, in a legislator to frame laws in opposition to the laws of nature, and to arm them with the terrors of death. This is truly creating crimes in order to punish them.

~ Thomas Jefferson, 1779
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STEREO A difference pic of new CME:

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov (secure)]

explosion
The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.

~ Thomas Jefferson, Inaugural Address, 1801


It is not only vain, but wicked, in a legislator to frame laws in opposition to the laws of nature, and to arm them with the terrors of death. This is truly creating crimes in order to punish them.

~ Thomas Jefferson, 1779
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STEREO A difference pic of new CME:

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov (secure)]

explosion
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It's like a Christmas miracle!!

https://imgur.com/mEhiR28

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STEREO A difference pic of new CME:

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov (secure)]

explosion
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It's like a Christmas miracle!!

https://imgur.com/mEhiR28

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Hiya, OE hi Thanks for embedding the photo.

We've seen CMEs from B-flares before, though they're extremely rare. But I don't EVER recall a CME from a spotless plaige.

AR2791 is close to 30-degrees West, so its perfectly placed to be geoeffective.

Conveniently, SoHO and STEREO stopped updating 90 minutes ago.

It is like a Christmas miracle. the immaculate CME.

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~ Thomas Jefferson, Inaugural Address, 1801


It is not only vain, but wicked, in a legislator to frame laws in opposition to the laws of nature, and to arm them with the terrors of death. This is truly creating crimes in order to punish them.

~ Thomas Jefferson, 1779
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I'm following (but not stalking) Erika and HaloCME now to see if there's any news on the flux rope orientation..
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Hiya, OE hi Thanks for embedding the photo.

We've seen CMEs from B-flares before, though they're extremely rare. But I don't EVER recall a CME from a spotless plaige.

AR2791 is close to 30-degrees West, so its perfectly placed to be geoeffective.

 Quoting: Helios Maximus


hi

it should be just about on the magnetic connection line I suppose..
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Thanks OE! I was only giggling at your crush comment. :)
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you're just jealous, I know..

tongue
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s27letmeloveu

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"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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CACTus CME analysis appears to show a slow ejection far west of the Sun-Earth line.

CACTuS Details:
[link to www.sidc.oma.be]

I'll continue to wait for a STEREO update as I'm not convinced this is the same CME I witnessed earlier. SoHO does have a blind spot - plasma directed straight at the occulting disc.

Either way, I doubt this would have any significant impact at Earth.

The recent B6.7 flare seems to herald the return of AR 2783....Welcome Back.

Far-side Report from SolarHam-

[link to www.solarham.net (secure)]

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Last Edited by Helios Maximus on 12/11/2020 09:54 PM
The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.

~ Thomas Jefferson, Inaugural Address, 1801


It is not only vain, but wicked, in a legislator to frame laws in opposition to the laws of nature, and to arm them with the terrors of death. This is truly creating crimes in order to punish them.

~ Thomas Jefferson, 1779
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Re: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)
There's at least one spot left to old 2783. If you examine the SE limb you'll find a new AR2792 (provisional).

Latest HMI Intensitygram:

[link to jsoc.stanford.edu]
The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.

~ Thomas Jefferson, Inaugural Address, 1801


It is not only vain, but wicked, in a legislator to frame laws in opposition to the laws of nature, and to arm them with the terrors of death. This is truly creating crimes in order to punish them.

~ Thomas Jefferson, 1779
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Looks like a monster coming around.

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[link to weather.msfc.nasa.gov (secure)]
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Looks like a monster coming around.

glassesoff

[link to weather.msfc.nasa.gov (secure)]
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yep, that should be numbered.. beta potential at least..

https://imgur.com/U1tJXAR

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kevin just called it 2792..

The likely return of old AR 2783. Reassigned AR 2792 on December 12, 2020.

[link to www.solarham.net (secure)]

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kevin just called it 2792..

The likely return of old AR 2783. Reassigned AR 2792 on December 12, 2020.

[link to www.solarham.net (secure)]
 Quoting: OpenEnded..



I wager it's going to intensify over the next 72 hours.

Eclipse plus Gemini - would make sense with all the stuff happening.
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Probably will be facing directly towards us on Dec 21 also
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Probably will be facing directly towards us on Dec 21 also
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and it's not alone, possible 2793 just over the horizon..

hiding
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Probably will be facing directly towards us on Dec 21 also
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and it's not alone, possible 2793 just over the horizon..

hiding
 Quoting: OpenEnded..


Knows we're talking about it. Just gave off a plasma burst.

[link to weather.msfc.nasa.gov (secure)]


Can see it in the flux climbing right now.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov (secure)]
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"The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson

We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family!
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repeat reminder..



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