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**Many Popes Have Been Labeled The Most Evil Men In History. **

 
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In short, it is cannibalism. Symbolic cannibalism.

Protestants do it, too, but they call it "communion".

It's all just cannibalism.

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On topic of the thread... of course they are criminals. The whole point of christianity was political control. Why the surprised outrage when it's just serving its purpose of catering to greedy, selfish men??
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Because this is NOT what christ taught. Anyone murdering in the name of christ is full of shit.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Yet......if God murders, yes I said murders in the name of good, suddenly that becomes ok? Is there not a double standard here?
 Quoting: ajk


Tell me ajk, are you mad at God? God takes you
when it is best for your soul, young or old.
God decides life and death. He's the creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288597


No, I am mad at the lies told about God.

As for the rest, where's the free will we supposedly have if God decides if we live or die?

And you cannot tell me it was justified or "best for the soul" that God killed thousands in one fell swoop, such as in the great flood. That's pure evil right there, and far beneath a loving creator.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Because this is NOT what christ taught. Anyone murdering in the name of christ is full of shit.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Yet......if God murders, yes I said murders in the name of good, suddenly that becomes ok? Is there not a double standard here?
 Quoting: ajk


Tell me ajk, are you mad at God? God takes you
when it is best for your soul, young or old.
God decides life and death. He's the creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288597


No, I am mad at the lies told about God.

As for the rest, where's the free will we supposedly have if God decides if we live or die?

And you cannot tell me it was justified or "best for the soul" that God killed thousands in one fell swoop, such as in the great flood. That's pure evil right there, and far beneath a loving creator.
 Quoting: ajk


You say they are lies.

Where is it you get to decide concerning life or death? You are not the creator. God created you because He loves you ajk. It's in between birth and death, you alone decide for Him or not. That's free will, God is not going to force
you to love Him.

You don't know what became of all those people, I just
commented in another thread, I've never been to anyone's Particular Judgment.

take care, rose
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Yet......if God murders, yes I said murders in the name of good, suddenly that becomes ok? Is there not a double standard here?
 Quoting: ajk


Tell me ajk, are you mad at God? God takes you
when it is best for your soul, young or old.
God decides life and death. He's the creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288597


No, I am mad at the lies told about God.

As for the rest, where's the free will we supposedly have if God decides if we live or die?

And you cannot tell me it was justified or "best for the soul" that God killed thousands in one fell swoop, such as in the great flood. That's pure evil right there, and far beneath a loving creator.
 Quoting: ajk


You say they are lies.

Where is it you get to decide concerning life or death? You are not the creator. God created you because He loves you ajk. It's in between birth and death, you alone decide for Him or not. That's free will, God is not going to force
you to love Him.

You don't know what became of all those people, I just
commented in another thread, I've never been to anyone's Particular Judgment.

take care, rose
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288597


Yes I do, because the Bible paints a picture of a jealous, spiteful mean and angry God who kills and burns anyone who disagrees with Him. Such a parent here would be seen as evil and their name tarnished, but because it's God it's different? No I think not.

Yes I know God loves me and loves all, though part of the reason we are here is so God can experience limitations through us, since on His own He can't being unlimited. And we do this for Him out of love.

As for the rest, yes I agree God will not force us to love Him or force us to do anything for that matter. But having said that, He's not gonna kill us for a choice we make down here one way or the other. That simply isn't the case, and is a lie from man to control.

Last Edited by ajk on 03/12/2011 08:58 AM
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Tell me ajk, are you mad at God? God takes you
when it is best for your soul, young or old.
God decides life and death. He's the creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288597


No, I am mad at the lies told about God.

As for the rest, where's the free will we supposedly have if God decides if we live or die?

And you cannot tell me it was justified or "best for the soul" that God killed thousands in one fell swoop, such as in the great flood. That's pure evil right there, and far beneath a loving creator.
 Quoting: ajk


You say they are lies.

Where is it you get to decide concerning life or death? You are not the creator. God created you because He loves you ajk. It's in between birth and death, you alone decide for Him or not. That's free will, God is not going to force
you to love Him.

You don't know what became of all those people, I just
commented in another thread, I've never been to anyone's Particular Judgment.

take care, rose
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288597


Yes I do, because the Bible paints a picture of a jealous, spiteful mean and angry God who kills and burns anyone who disagrees with Him. Such a parent here would be seen as evil and their name tarnished, but because it's God it's different? No I think not.

Yes I know God loves me and loves all, though part of the reason we are here is so God can experience limitations through us, since on His own He can't being unlimited. And we do this for Him out of love.

As for the rest, yes I agree God will not force us to love Him or force us to do anything for that matter. But having said that, He's not gonna kill us for a choice we make down here one way or the other. That simply isn't the case, and is a lie from man to control.
 Quoting: ajk


The God in Scripture I know isn't the God you describe.
Man, especially in the beginning didn't know who God was/is so fell back to human unloving, ungodly ways time and time
again. You point to God's actions and don't look at men.

Does this sound like a jealous, spiteful, mean and angry
God? No. Aren't you happy just thinking about the first
sentence in the excerpt?

God the Father, the Father of All Mankind
excerpt from a message given Mother Eugenia

7/1/32

Realize then, O men, that for all eternity I have had but one desire, to make Myself known to men and be loved by them. I wish to stay forever with them.


Do you want an authentic proof of this desire that I have just expressed?

Why did I command Moses to build a tabernacle and the ark of the covenant, if not to come and dwell, as a Father, a brother, a close friend, with My creatures, men? This was My ardent desire. In spite of this, they have forgotten Me and offended Me with countless sins. I gave Moses My commandments to remind them, in spite of everything, of God, their Father, and of His sole wish, to save them. They were supposed to observe the commandments and thereby remember their infinitely good Father, always intent upon their present and eternal salvation.

All this was forgotten and men sank into error and fear, considering that the observance of the commandments as I had transmitted them to Moses was too taxing. They made up other laws in accordance with their whims, in order to observe them more easily. Little by little, in the exaggerated fear they had of Me, they forgot Me more and more and heaped outrages upon Me.

Yet My love for these men, My children, never quite ceased. When I realized that neither the patriarchs nor the prophets had been able to make Me known and loved by men, I decided to come Myself.

But how could I come among them? There was no other way than to come Myself, in the second Person of My divinity.

Would men know Me? Would they listen to Me?

Nothing in the future was hidden from Me; I Myself answered these two questions:

"They will ignore My presence, even though they will be near Me. In My Son they will treat Me cruelly, notwithstanding all the good He will do for them. In My Son they will speak ill of Me; they will crucify Me to bring about My death."

Shall I stop because of this? No, My love for My children, men, is too great.

I did not stop there. Understand well that I loved you, as it were, more than My beloved Son, or rather, more than Myself.

What I am telling you is so true that, if one of My creatures had been enough to atone for the sins of other men through a life and death similar to those of My Son, I would have hesitated. Why? Because I would have betrayed My love by making a beloved creature suffer, rather than suffering Myself, in My Son. I would never have wished My children to suffer.

This, then, in brief, is the story of My love until My coming among men through My Son.

Most men know of all these events, but they fail to grasp the essential thing: that love was the guiding principle in it all!

Yes, it is love. This is what I want to impress upon you. Now this love has been forgotten. I want to remind you of it, so that you can learn to know Me as I am, so that you will not be, like slaves, afraid of a Father Who loves you so much.


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Does "He's not gonna kill us for a choice we make down here" mean "He's not gonna send us to hell for a choice
we make down here"...?
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all this bickering is preposterous, God executed judgement upon the world and flooded it, but on the ark he saved a remnant. at the tower of babel he executed judgement, the people didnt disperse and spread across the earth, and for mans sake it was for the best, else he becomes subject to one persons governance and then that king is looked upon as a god. this is what nimrod was striving for perhaps. and then israel was told to commit genocide. the only other option was to destroy the earth yet again, but it wasnt time because thats reserved for the latter days, so israel had to do Gods will. there were giants upon the world in those days and its those giant races which israel was told to destroy. the giants inhabited the promised land, they was there to keep Gods words from coming about/being fulfilled. genesis tells you that the sons of God came and took the daughters of men for wives before and after, before and after what? the flood. nimrods description is reminescent of the great and mighty men of old. giants are abominations in the eyes of God, there is no place in heaven for an abomination. and the angels guilty will be punished, hell wasnt meant for man, it was made for angels. the fires of hell are eternal, the anti-christ and false prophet are thrown bodily into hell, after the 1000 year reign and eventually satan is captured he is thrown into hell with the anti-christ and false prophet, with means they are still alive, tormented. and just so you feel good christians know, satan hasnt ever been in hell.

its amazing! i am not raised/taught by any church, yet me in my foolishness dont sound as crazy as some of y'all, and seem to have a clue. why dont you ask God why? Jesus said he leaves with us the spirit to guide us into all truths. use it! take advantage! get some understanding!
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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No, I am mad at the lies told about God.

As for the rest, where's the free will we supposedly have if God decides if we live or die?

And you cannot tell me it was justified or "best for the soul" that God killed thousands in one fell swoop, such as in the great flood. That's pure evil right there, and far beneath a loving creator.
 Quoting: ajk


You say they are lies.

Where is it you get to decide concerning life or death? You are not the creator. God created you because He loves you ajk. It's in between birth and death, you alone decide for Him or not. That's free will, God is not going to force
you to love Him.

You don't know what became of all those people, I just
commented in another thread, I've never been to anyone's Particular Judgment.

take care, rose
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288597


Yes I do, because the Bible paints a picture of a jealous, spiteful mean and angry God who kills and burns anyone who disagrees with Him. Such a parent here would be seen as evil and their name tarnished, but because it's God it's different? No I think not.

Yes I know God loves me and loves all, though part of the reason we are here is so God can experience limitations through us, since on His own He can't being unlimited. And we do this for Him out of love.

As for the rest, yes I agree God will not force us to love Him or force us to do anything for that matter. But having said that, He's not gonna kill us for a choice we make down here one way or the other. That simply isn't the case, and is a lie from man to control.
 Quoting: ajk


The God in Scripture I know isn't the God you describe.
Man, especially in the beginning didn't know who God was/is so fell back to human unloving, ungodly ways time and time
again. You point to God's actions and don't look at men.

Does this sound like a jealous, spiteful, mean and angry
God? No. Aren't you happy just thinking about the first
sentence in the excerpt?

God the Father, the Father of All Mankind
excerpt from a message given Mother Eugenia

7/1/32

Realize then, O men, that for all eternity I have had but one desire, to make Myself known to men and be loved by them. I wish to stay forever with them.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288597


But of course there has to be some good thrown in, to make the bad seem palatable. That's exactly how this works, you reel people in with the good and loving, and keep them there with the fear of death and hell.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Once you're done bashing the Catholics, you should read a little bit about how much good they have done in western civilization.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You can thank the RCC for:
Hospitals,
Orphanages,
Schools,
Univeristies,
Knowledge of ancient civs like Greece and Rome,
Musical notation,
Battling against human sacrifice,
Battling against slavery,
The concept of Rights,
First European concept of Law upon which all modern law is predicated,
Gender equality,
The worlds greatest art,
And the list goes on.
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Once you're done bashing the Catholics, you should read a little bit about how much good they have done in western civilization.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You can thank the RCC for:
Hospitals,
Orphanages,
Schools,
Univeristies,
Knowledge of ancient civs like Greece and Rome,
Musical notation,
Battling against human sacrifice,
Battling against slavery,
The concept of Rights,
First European concept of Law upon which all modern law is predicated,
Gender equality,
The worlds greatest art,
And the list goes on.
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Not bashing Catholics.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed.

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Proverbs 5:[1] My son, attend to my wisdom, and incline thy ear to my prudence. [2] That thou mayst keep thoughts, and thy lips may preserve instruction. Mind not the deceit of a woman. [3] For the lips of a harlot are like a honeycomb dropping, and her throat is smoother than oil. [4] But her end is bitter as wormwood, and sharp as a two-edged sword. [5] Her feet go down into death, and her steps go in as far as hell.

[6] They walk not by the path of life, her steps are wandering, and unaccountable. [7] Now therefore, my son, hear me, and depart not from the words of my mouth. [8] Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the doors of her house. [9] Give not thy honour to strangers, and thy years to the cruel. [10] Lest strangers be filled with thy strength, and thy labours be in another man's house,

[11] And thou mourn it the last, when thou shalt have spent thy flesh and thy body, and say: [12] Why have I hated instruction, and my heart consented not to reproof, [13] And have not heard the voice of them that taught me, and have not inclined my ear to masters? [14] I have almost been in all evil, in the midst of the church and of the congregation. [15] Drink water out of thy own cistern, and the streams of thy own well:

Jeremiah 14:[14] And the Lord said to me: The prophets prophesy falsely in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, nor have I spoken to them: they prophesy unto you a lying vision, and divination and deceit, and the seduction of their own heart.

Ezeckiel 13:[17] And thou, son of man, set thy face against the daughters of thy people that prophesy out of their own heart: and do thou prophesy against them, [18] And say: Thus saith the Lord God: Woe to them that sew cushions under every elbow: and make pillows for the heads of persons of every age to catch souls: and when they caught the souls of my people, they gave life to their souls.

[19] And they violated me among my people, for a handful of barley, and a piece of bread, to kill souls which should not die, and to save souls alive which should not live, telling lies to my people that believe lies. [20] Therefore thus saith the Lord God: Behold I declare against your cushions, wherewith you catch flying souls: and I will tear them off from your arms: and I will let go the souls that you catch, the souls that should fly.

[21] And I will tear your pillows, and will deliver my people out of your hand, neither shall they be any more in your hands to be a prey: and you shall know that I am the Lord. [22] Because with lies you have made the heart of the just to mourn, whom I have not made sorrowful: and have strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his evil way, and live. [23] Therefore you shall not see vain things, nor divine divinations any more, and I will deliver my people out of your hand: and you shall know that I am the Lord.

Jeremiah 9:[2] Who will give me in the wilderness a lodging place of wayfaring men, and I will leave my people, and depart from them? because they are all adulterers, an assembly of transgressors. [3] And they have bent their tongue, as a bow, for lies, and not for truth: they have strengthened themselves upon the earth, for they have proceeded from evil to evil, and me they have not known, saith the Lord. [4] Let every man take heed of his neighbour, and let him not trust in any brother of his: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every friend will walk deceitfully. [5] And a man shall mock his brother, and they will not speak the truth: for they have taught their tongue to speak lies: they have laboured to commit iniquity.

[6] Thy habitation is in the midst of deceit: Through deceit they have refused to know me, saith the Lord.[7] Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts: Behold I will melt, and try them: for what else shall I do before the daughter of my people? [8] Their tongue is a piercing arrow, it hath spoken deceit: with his mouth one speaketh peace with his friend, and secretly he lieth in wait for him. [9] Shall I not visit them for these things, saith the Lord? or shall not my soul be revenged on such a nation?

[12] Who is the wise man, that may understand this, and to whom the word of the mouth of the Lord may come that he may declare this, why the land hath perished, and is burnt up like a wilderness, which none passeth through? [13] And the Lord said: Because they have forsaken my law, which I gave them, and have not heard my voice, and have not walked in it. [14] But they have gone after the perverseness of their own heart, and after Baalim, which their fathers taught them. [15] Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts the God of Israel: Behold I will feed this people with wormwood, and give them water of gall to drink.

[16] And I will scatter them among the nations, which they and their fathers have not known: and I will send the sword after them till they be consumed. [17] Thus saith the Lord of hosts the God of Israel: Consider ye, and call for the mourning women, and let them come: and send to them that are wise women, and let them make haste: [18] Let them hasten and take up a lamentation for us: let our eyes shed tears, and our eyelids run down with waters. [19] For a voice of wailing is heard out of Sion: How are we wasted and greatly confounded? because we have left the land, because our dwellings are cast down. [20] Hear therefore, ye women, the word of the Lord: and let your ears receive the word of his mouth: and teach your daughters wailing: and every one her neighbour mourning.

[21] For death is come up through our windows, it is entered into our houses to destroy the children from without, the young men from the streets.

REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND!
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Proverbs 5:[1] My son, attend to my wisdom, and incline thy ear to my prudence. [2] That thou mayst keep thoughts, and thy lips may preserve instruction. Mind not the deceit of a woman. [3] For the lips of a harlot are like a honeycomb dropping, and her throat is smoother than oil. [4] But her end is bitter as wormwood, and sharp as a two-edged sword. [5] Her feet go down into death, and her steps go in as far as hell.

[6] They walk not by the path of life, her steps are wandering, and unaccountable. [7] Now therefore, my son, hear me, and depart not from the words of my mouth. [8] Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the doors of her house. [9] Give not thy honour to strangers, and thy years to the cruel. [10] Lest strangers be filled with thy strength, and thy labours be in another man's house,

[11] And thou mourn it the last, when thou shalt have spent thy flesh and thy body, and say: [12] Why have I hated instruction, and my heart consented not to reproof, [13] And have not heard the voice of them that taught me, and have not inclined my ear to masters? [14] I have almost been in all evil, in the midst of the church and of the congregation. [15] Drink water out of thy own cistern, and the streams of thy own well:

Jeremiah 14:[14] And the Lord said to me: The prophets prophesy falsely in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, nor have I spoken to them: they prophesy unto you a lying vision, and divination and deceit, and the seduction of their own heart.

Ezeckiel 13:[17] And thou, son of man, set thy face against the daughters of thy people that prophesy out of their own heart: and do thou prophesy against them, [18] And say: Thus saith the Lord God: Woe to them that sew cushions under every elbow: and make pillows for the heads of persons of every age to catch souls: and when they caught the souls of my people, they gave life to their souls.

[19] And they violated me among my people, for a handful of barley, and a piece of bread, to kill souls which should not die, and to save souls alive which should not live, telling lies to my people that believe lies. [20] Therefore thus saith the Lord God: Behold I declare against your cushions, wherewith you catch flying souls: and I will tear them off from your arms: and I will let go the souls that you catch, the souls that should fly.

[21] And I will tear your pillows, and will deliver my people out of your hand, neither shall they be any more in your hands to be a prey: and you shall know that I am the Lord. [22] Because with lies you have made the heart of the just to mourn, whom I have not made sorrowful: and have strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his evil way, and live. [23] Therefore you shall not see vain things, nor divine divinations any more, and I will deliver my people out of your hand: and you shall know that I am the Lord.

Jeremiah 9:[2] Who will give me in the wilderness a lodging place of wayfaring men, and I will leave my people, and depart from them? because they are all adulterers, an assembly of transgressors. [3] And they have bent their tongue, as a bow, for lies, and not for truth: they have strengthened themselves upon the earth, for they have proceeded from evil to evil, and me they have not known, saith the Lord. [4] Let every man take heed of his neighbour, and let him not trust in any brother of his: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every friend will walk deceitfully. [5] And a man shall mock his brother, and they will not speak the truth: for they have taught their tongue to speak lies: they have laboured to commit iniquity.

[6] Thy habitation is in the midst of deceit: Through deceit they have refused to know me, saith the Lord.[7] Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts: Behold I will melt, and try them: for what else shall I do before the daughter of my people? [8] Their tongue is a piercing arrow, it hath spoken deceit: with his mouth one speaketh peace with his friend, and secretly he lieth in wait for him. [9] Shall I not visit them for these things, saith the Lord? or shall not my soul be revenged on such a nation?

[12] Who is the wise man, that may understand this, and to whom the word of the mouth of the Lord may come that he may declare this, why the land hath perished, and is burnt up like a wilderness, which none passeth through? [13] And the Lord said: Because they have forsaken my law, which I gave them, and have not heard my voice, and have not walked in it. [14] But they have gone after the perverseness of their own heart, and after Baalim, which their fathers taught them. [15] Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts the God of Israel: Behold I will feed this people with wormwood, and give them water of gall to drink.

[16] And I will scatter them among the nations, which they and their fathers have not known: and I will send the sword after them till they be consumed. [17] Thus saith the Lord of hosts the God of Israel: Consider ye, and call for the mourning women, and let them come: and send to them that are wise women, and let them make haste: [18] Let them hasten and take up a lamentation for us: let our eyes shed tears, and our eyelids run down with waters. [19] For a voice of wailing is heard out of Sion: How are we wasted and greatly confounded? because we have left the land, because our dwellings are cast down. [20] Hear therefore, ye women, the word of the Lord: and let your ears receive the word of his mouth: and teach your daughters wailing: and every one her neighbour mourning.

[21] For death is come up through our windows, it is entered into our houses to destroy the children from without, the young men from the streets.

REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND!
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Yes...repent! Repent that a man/human being has claimed to be in place of Christ and has authority to label folks as saints!
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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We are all pieces of God, pieces of the universe, pieces of the infinite, what else could we possibly be? All conscious life, here and across the cosmos, strives for the ultimate truth and power, perfection in unity. There was once only one, the infinite point, the singularity, God. Through struggle and strife, through love and light, through boundaries and limits, through trial and error, through time and space, the pieces exist to form the whole.

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TXGal, shame on you,

Your mother in Heaven, both of them are crying at your
Catholic hating threads. Fallen away Catholics are so
bitter.

I guess you'll have to paste from another unbiased thread,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288597

No one has been judged yet. They are all sleeping in their graves. How can you call me hateful, but not call what these evil men did??

These were YOUR popes!!!
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


TXGal is a 7th Day Adventist! We're
saints here already and there's no one in Heaven but God
and the angels. :ange13:

Silly, where did the Bible come from...oooh, that
evil Catholic Church.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288597


The Bible came from the Catholic Church? Really?

The same "Church" that punished people by death for having a copy of the scriptures for nearly 1200 years.

Martin Luther? Anyone?

Honey, they may have compiled some of the scriptures but giving the Romans credit for giving us the scriptures is like giving them credit for giving us air.

Total and complete bullshit.
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TXGal, shame on you,

Your mother in Heaven, both of them are crying at your
Catholic hating threads. Fallen away Catholics are so
bitter.

I guess you'll have to paste from another unbiased thread,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288597

No one has been judged yet. They are all sleeping in their graves. How can you call me hateful, but not call what these evil men did??

These were YOUR popes!!!
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


TXGal is a 7th Day Adventist! We're
saints here already and there's no one in Heaven but God
and the angels. :ange13:

Silly, where did the Bible come from...oooh, that
evil Catholic Church.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288597


The Bible came from the Catholic Church? Really?

The same "Church" that punished people by death for having a copy of the scriptures for nearly 1200 years.

Martin Luther? Anyone?

Honey, they may have compiled some of the scriptures but giving the Romans credit for giving us the scriptures is like giving them credit for giving us air.

Total and complete bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4934514


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Once you're done bashing the Catholics, you should read a little bit about how much good they have done in western civilization.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You can thank the RCC for:
Hospitals,
Orphanages,
Schools,
Univeristies,
Knowledge of ancient civs like Greece and Rome,
Musical notation,
Battling against human sacrifice,
Battling against slavery,
The concept of Rights,
First European concept of Law upon which all modern law is predicated,
Gender equality,
The worlds greatest art,
And the list goes on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3689802


Pedophilia Via UnBiblically Unmarried Priests,
The Inquisition,
The Crusades,
UnBiblical prayers to the so-called saints and the "Holy Mother" aka The Goddess.

Catholics practice human sacrifice every fricking day via the eucharist.

Seriously. Take 10 seconds and THINK for yourself.
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Once you're done bashing the Catholics, you should read a little bit about how much good they have done in western civilization.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You can thank the RCC for:
Hospitals,
Orphanages,
Schools,
Univeristies,
Knowledge of ancient civs like Greece and Rome,
Musical notation,
Battling against human sacrifice,
Battling against slavery,
The concept of Rights,
First European concept of Law upon which all modern law is predicated,
Gender equality,
The worlds greatest art,
And the list goes on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3689802


Pedophilia Via UnBiblically Unmarried Priests,
The Inquisition,
The Crusades,
UnBiblical prayers to the so-called saints and the "Holy Mother" aka The Goddess.

Catholics practice human sacrifice every fricking day via the eucharist.

Seriously. Take 10 seconds and THINK for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4934514


They'll never understand. I remember being so offended while I was a Catholic. Offended that folks told me that the RCC was evil. I did research for myself and it all made sense. The RCC is the ANTICHRIST.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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Roman Catholicism is a false duplication of the real Gospel.


This is why you can find pictures of the previous pope kissing the Koran.


The final pope will more than likely be the false prophet.....who aligns himself with the man of evil.


He will be involved in putting those who truly love Christ to death........as previous popes also put true believers to death. (Rev. 13: 11-18)


All Catholics who come to the real truth need to leave this evil system.
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Once you're done bashing the Catholics, you should read a little bit about how much good they have done in western civilization.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You can thank the RCC for:
Hospitals,
Orphanages,
Schools,
Univeristies,
Knowledge of ancient civs like Greece and Rome,
Musical notation,
Battling against human sacrifice,
Battling against slavery,
The concept of Rights,
First European concept of Law upon which all modern law is predicated,
Gender equality,
The worlds greatest art,
And the list goes on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3689802


Pedophilia Via UnBiblically Unmarried Priests,
The Inquisition,
The Crusades,
UnBiblical prayers to the so-called saints and the "Holy Mother" aka The Goddess.

Catholics practice human sacrifice every fricking day via the eucharist.

Seriously. Take 10 seconds and THINK for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4934514


They'll never understand. I remember being so offended while I was a Catholic. Offended that folks told me that the RCC was evil. I did research for myself and it all made sense. The RCC is the ANTICHRIST.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


What church did the 12 Apostles belong too? Did Christ come to earth to establish the church of the antichrist? doesn't seem very Christlike.
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Once you're done bashing the Catholics, you should read a little bit about how much good they have done in western civilization.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You can thank the RCC for:
Hospitals,
Orphanages,
Schools,
Univeristies,
Knowledge of ancient civs like Greece and Rome,
Musical notation,
Battling against human sacrifice,
Battling against slavery,
The concept of Rights,
First European concept of Law upon which all modern law is predicated,
Gender equality,
The worlds greatest art,
And the list goes on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3689802


Pedophilia Via UnBiblically Unmarried Priests,
The Inquisition,
The Crusades,
UnBiblical prayers to the so-called saints and the "Holy Mother" aka The Goddess.

Catholics practice human sacrifice every fricking day via the eucharist.

Seriously. Take 10 seconds and THINK for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4934514


They'll never understand. I remember being so offended while I was a Catholic. Offended that folks told me that the RCC was evil. I did research for myself and it all made sense. The RCC is the ANTICHRIST.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


What church did the 12 Apostles belong too? Did Christ come to earth to establish the church of the antichrist? doesn't seem very Christlike.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3689802


Can u define church for me please?
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Pedophilia Via UnBiblically Unmarried Priests,
The Inquisition,
The Crusades,
UnBiblical prayers to the so-called saints and the "Holy Mother" aka The Goddess.

Catholics practice human sacrifice every fricking day via the eucharist.

Seriously. Take 10 seconds and THINK for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4934514


They'll never understand. I remember being so offended while I was a Catholic. Offended that folks told me that the RCC was evil. I did research for myself and it all made sense. The RCC is the ANTICHRIST.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


What church did the 12 Apostles belong too? Did Christ come to earth to establish the church of the antichrist? doesn't seem very Christlike.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3689802


Can u define church for me please?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


You have this in your signature:
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

I would define church as the "we" and "us" that John is referencing in this passage. Who ever said the church would be without sin? Or popes would be without sin? John is here saying, very clearly, that this was not the case then, why should it be now?
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Also...
church
n.
1. A building for public, especially Christian worship.


Matthew 16:18
"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."



The bones of St. Peter were discovered directly below the high alter of St. Peters Basilica in Rome. Can it made any more clear than that?
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Also...
church
n.
1. A building for public, especially Christian worship.


Matthew 16:18
"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."



The bones of St. Peter were discovered directly below the high alter of St. Peters Basilica in Rome. Can it made any more clear than that?
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The word CHURCH comes for the term Ekklesia, which merely means the CALLED OUT.

Grab yourself a concordance and stop listening to priests whom want you to call them FATHER....which is also forbade.
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Also...
church
n.
1. A building for public, especially Christian worship.


Matthew 16:18
"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."



The bones of St. Peter were discovered directly below the high alter of St. Peters Basilica in Rome. Can it made any more clear than that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3689802


The word CHURCH comes for the term Ekklesia, which merely means the CALLED OUT.

Grab yourself a concordance and stop listening to priests whom want you to call them FATHER....which is also forbade.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth (NLI) 1013398


I am very comfortable with, and proud of, my Catholic faith, instead of considering conversion I'm going to bed. God bless. BTW, where'd your signature go?

You should read John chap 6, and think about it.
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Also...
church
n.
1. A building for public, especially Christian worship.


Matthew 16:18
"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."



The bones of St. Peter were discovered directly below the high alter of St. Peters Basilica in Rome. Can it made any more clear than that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3689802


The word CHURCH comes for the term Ekklesia, which merely means the CALLED OUT.

Grab yourself a concordance and stop listening to priests whom want you to call them FATHER....which is also forbade.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth (NLI) 1013398


I am very comfortable with, and proud of, my Catholic faith, instead of considering conversion I'm going to bed. God bless. BTW, where'd your signature go?

You should read John chap 6, and think about it.
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rose
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


[email protected]

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Also...
church
n.
1. A building for public, especially Christian worship.


Matthew 16:18
"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."



The bones of St. Peter were discovered directly below the high alter of St. Peters Basilica in Rome. Can it made any more clear than that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3689802


The word CHURCH comes for the term Ekklesia, which merely means the CALLED OUT.

Grab yourself a concordance and stop listening to priests whom want you to call them FATHER....which is also forbade.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth (NLI) 1013398


I am very comfortable with, and proud of, my Catholic faith, instead of considering conversion I'm going to bed. God bless. BTW, where'd your signature go?

You should read John chap 6, and think about it.
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Ha, how can you be proud? of being in the most evil Organization that ever lived?!? mind boggling WoW

Don't forget to Pray Saint Hitler, patron saint of the holocaust & errand boy of the papacy

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It's not about that AC. It's that many are following a MAN who claims to be IN PLACE of Christ. That's just not possible.
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Well, if your religion is using the bible in any way, then you have a problem if you seek to attack the very church that wrote it. Constantine I convened the Council of Nicaea to determine what goes in and what stays out of the book of christianity. Although he didn't sit in on the actual food fights - let's get real and admit that as the funder and a person who can chop any of their heads off- he determined the essentials of what he wanted in or out.

And what kind of person was this Constantine? Well, let's put it this way: He decided he had way too much sinning to do to baptize his sleazy self while relatively young and while there were so many atrocities out there yet to do, instead waiting until he was safely on his deathbed - in which case he could then get baptized, yelling "All-y all-y in come free" to beat the raps on all his murders, rapes and slaughters - and then die a "holy" emperor.

JFC, and christians all accept this book as they beat each other over the head with it, accusing others of not being christian.

You just CAN'T make this stuff up.
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not true anymore, translations from the original aramaic are available and in complete contrast to the western bible.
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Its obvious you aren't bashing catholics, Ms Tx, just showing the hypocrisies of the supposed middlemen to God throughout catholic history. The fact that these zealous catholics would defend the Holy Fathers, that weren't so holy, is much more disturbing than any bashing that you or anyone else could do.
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That list is a bunch of BS and an insult to us catholics by a witch who is eager to attack Christians.
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