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There is no debate that 1 Thessalonians 4, and 1 Corinthians 15 teach on the rapture. Both chapters also teach the resurrection and of the trumpet blast. Neither chapter mentions anything about having to endure the tribulation before the rapture comes. There is no debate that Revelation 19 and Zechariah 14 teach on the physical return of the Lord Jesus Christ in power after the tribulation. Neither of those chapters speak of the rapture, nor of a resurrection, nor of a trumpet blast.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Thess 4:18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

[caught up=HARPAZO=Rapture]

1 Thess 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
1 Thess 2:19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?
1 Thess 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
1 Thess 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

AS THE WORLD WITNESSED ON 3/11/11 BIRTH PANGS ARE INCREASING!

CORRELATING- REVELATION 3:11

I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one may rob you and deprive you of your crown.

MORE EVENTS TO COME... (TIME IS RUNNING OUT)

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I used to believe there was a Rapture. I used to also pray that I wouldn't be taken because I wanted to be able to stay and A. Prove my faith, and B. Make sure I could help others in the situation.
The more I read though, the more I think that there will not be a Rapture. I think that there are some verses that have been misread, or intentionally misconstrued to lull us Christians.
Think about the sneakiness of it. If Satan made all the Christians think that they wouldn't be as vigilant because they would think they wouldn't be here for it. How much would they ignore thinking "That can't be the Mark I'm still here, That can't be the Antichrist/Two Witnesses/Seal/Bowl/Trumpet.
I think those verses aren't saying that we will be taken in that time but that the start of it will be so quick that we won't notice,
Matthew 24:22
“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
Why would he need to shorten the days if the elect are already gone?
I should mention, due to the fact that people are overly attack-y on this place that I am not making any type of personal or other type of attack I want to share my view point to help others, but considering how people view Christianity now, you know how this is gonna go. >.< peace
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There is no debate that 1 Thessalonians 4, and 1 Corinthians 15 teach on the rapture. Both chapters also teach the resurrection and of the trumpet blast. Neither chapter mentions anything about having to endure the tribulation before the rapture comes. There is no debate that Revelation 19 and Zechariah 14 teach on the physical return of the Lord Jesus Christ in power after the tribulation. Neither of those chapters speak of the rapture, nor of a resurrection, nor of a trumpet blast.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Thess 4:18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

[caught up=HARPAZO=Rapture]

1 Thess 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
1 Thess 2:19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?
1 Thess 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
1 Thess 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

AS THE WORLD WITNESSED ON 3/11/11 BIRTH PANGS ARE INCREASING!

CORRELATING- REVELATION 3:11

I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one may rob you and deprive you of your crown.

MORE EVENTS TO COME... (TIME IS RUNNING OUT)

[link to www.bibleprophesy.org]
 Quoting: Genesis 1:1



i used to believe the rapture because of these verses too!
but there is no rapture ..only rapture of the Tares!

Yahshua said the tares go first ....are you a tare ?


those scriptures are about judgment day ...when Yahshua returns .... you probably don't realize yet that at death you sleep until the second coming ....do an indepth study on judgment day ...you will figure it out! do it without church influence


read John 5:28 and Daniel 12:2


Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
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EVERYONE WILL FIND OUT SOON! LUKE 21:36 REV 3:10
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EVERYONE WILL FIND OUT SOON! LUKE 21:36 REV 3:10
 Quoting: Genesis 1:1


According to the bible the ressurection happens on the day he returns.

It also says that those who are still alive at that point are taken JUST AFTER the first ressurection..which..happens when Jesus returns..which according to matt 24 id IMMEDIATLEY AFTER the tribulation.

Get a fucking BRAIN ya fucking stupid moran..even a foul mouthed gona burn in hell sinner like ME can see it..so why cant you happy clappy money hungry holier than though gotta sell more BOOKS on BULLSHIT tards see it??

CAUSE YA DONT FUCKIMNH WANT TO..iy means ya might have to suffer along with the SAME people you are a;ways SENTENCING TO BE BURNT ALIVE in HELL by your god of infinite LOVE.

SO FUCK OFF RETARD!
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THE RESTRAINER WILL BE REMOVED! = (THE CHURCH) JESUS SAID I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH AND THE GATES OF HELL WILL NOT STAND AGAINST IT!

AFTER THE REMOVAL OF THE CHURCH, IT GOES BACK TO ISRAEL AND THE JEWS! (THE 2 WITNESSES AND THE 144,00O TAKE OVER) THE CHURCH IS NOT IN REVELATION CH. 6 THROUGH 18 = TRIB. JUDGMENTS!
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Rapture = false doctrine . Post-tribulation is when we get out of here .
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THE RESTRAINER WILL BE REMOVED! = (THE CHURCH) JESUS SAID I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH AND THE GATES OF HELL WILL NOT STAND AGAINST IT!

AFTER THE REMOVAL OF THE CHURCH, IT GOES BACK TO ISRAEL AND THE JEWS! (THE 2 WITNESSES AND THE 144,00O TAKE OVER) THE CHURCH IS NOT IN REVELATION CH. 6 THROUGH 18 = TRIB. JUDGMENTS!
 Quoting: Genesis 1:1


Fuck of idiot..that shit has been UTTERLY DEBUNKED so many times now its wearing thin.

YOu lot are as fucked in the head as NJrus..you will stubbornly cling to shit that is NOT even in the bible just cause it makes you FEEL GOOD...and makes ya millions along the way.

You are all a bunch of self deluded FUCKHEADS...and COWARDS at that..every time there is doom all you weak willed tards wanna do is start quoting your WELL DEBUNKED BULLSHIT all over the place in a effort to convince yourselves that you will never have to suffer...try telling your BULLSHIT to the many japanese christians that just got wiped away..or the ones who will now die a HORRIBLE DEATH from radiation.


YOU fucks are SO UTERLY EVIL!
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ENOCH IS THE FIRST (TYPE PATTERN) OF BE REMOVED BEFORE THE WRATH OF GOD!

22Enoch walked [in habitual fellowship] with God after the birth of Methuselah 300 years and had other sons and daughters.

23So all the days of Enoch were 365 years.

24And Enoch walked [in habitual fellowship] with God; and he was not, for God took him [home with Him].(A)GENESIS CH. 5

CORRELATING 1 THESS. CH 5:23-24

23And may the God of peace Himself sanctify you through and through [separate you from profane things, make you pure and wholly consecrated to God]; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved sound and complete [and found] blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah).

24Faithful is He Who is calling you [to Himself] and utterly trustworthy, and He will also do it [fulfill His call by hallowing and keeping you].
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Rapture = false doctrine . Post-tribulation is when we get out of here .
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According to the Bible's definition of the great tribulation, a pre-tribulation harpazo occurs anytime before Israel's persecution starts at the abomination of desolation. Matthew 24:15-22 Many view the harpazo prior to the beginning of the final seven years appointed to Israel, Daniel 9:27, but by the very use of "tribulation" in the term "pre-tribulation," identifies the timing with that of the great tribulation. There is no seven-year tribulation spoken of in scripture. As shown in the definition, and straight from Matthew 24:21, this time doesn't start until mid-way through the 7 years. This also limits the time of the great tribulation to just over 3½ years maximum. Since the time of great tribulation begins at the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet in the midst of the 70th week of Daniel and it begins with the dragon's persecution of the woman, the great tribulation is defined as the time the antichrist is after the saints on the earth. As Daniel 7:23-25 points out, "they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."
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"Because you have kept my command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world to test those who dwell on the earth." Rev 3:10

And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draws near. Luke 21: 28

For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And so we shall ever be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words. 1Th 4:16 -18
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The Rapture is not another name for the common phrase "Second Coming". Alternatively, the second coming can be viewed as occurring in two stages: the first, which Paul called "a mystery", being to remove the Church/Congregation/Bride from the Earth to protect this specific elect group from The Tribulation. The other, widely known and revealed, being his physical return to Earth to defend Israel from destruction, and then set up his millennial kingdom, at the end of The Tribulation. Failing to understand this has led to much confusion.
The differences between "Rapture" and "Second coming" verses are, in short:

Rapture passages (1 Thess. 4: 13-17; 1 Cor. 15: 51-53; Jn. 14: 1-3);

Second Coming passages (Joel 3: 12-16; Rev. 19: 11-21; Zech 14: 1-5; Matt. 24: 29-31).
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Im a christian

The rapture theory was created by Freemasons
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The rapture is a false teaching, and many will lose faith when they aren't magically taken up to the sky and have to suffer along with everyone else.

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The rapture is a false teaching, and many will lose faith when they aren't magically taken up to the sky and have to suffer along with everyone else.
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Which is why it was so cleverly spread about :( poor people who believe it
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Rapture = false doctrine . Post-tribulation is when we get out of here .
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Bravo! True!
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OP, you made a spelling mistake. It's RUPTURE imminent!
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EVERYONE WILL FIND OUT SOON! LUKE 21:36 REV 3:10
 Quoting: Genesis 1:1




I think your determined to find out the hard way hf

those verses don't mean He is rapturing you away ...


it means if you OBEY YAHWEH ... he will spare you the wrath coming to us here on earth !


the kingdom comes here... why would He come back if all the remnant were UP THERE with HIM ???
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There is no debate that 1 Thessalonians 4, and 1 Corinthians 15 teach on the rapture. Both chapters also teach the resurrection and of the trumpet blast. Neither chapter mentions anything about having to endure the tribulation before the rapture comes. There is no debate that Revelation 19 and Zechariah 14 teach on the physical return of the Lord Jesus Christ in power after the tribulation. Neither of those chapters speak of the rapture, nor of a resurrection, nor of a trumpet blast.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Thess 4:18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

[caught up=HARPAZO=Rapture]

1 Thess 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
1 Thess 2:19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?
1 Thess 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
1 Thess 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

AS THE WORLD WITNESSED ON 3/11/11 BIRTH PANGS ARE INCREASING!

CORRELATING- REVELATION 3:11

I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one may rob you and deprive you of your crown.

MORE EVENTS TO COME... (TIME IS RUNNING OUT)

[link to www.bibleprophesy.org]
 Quoting: Genesis 1:1


You wish the rapture was coming!! Hahahaha. Jesus never said anything about any type of rapture, the books of the bible you are quoting were written by Paul the first fucking POPE! You have been deceived by the greatest deception. The rapture also came into church go-ers consciousness because of Margaret McDonald and John Darby in SCOTLAND!!! ((Don't believe me? Do some goddamn research and stop putting faith in your pastors/sheep herders)) It is not in the fucking BIBLE!!! I have studied the bible for over 20 ++ years and was raised an "independent fundamentalist" christian. This is not going to happen, you are not the chosen elect of anything! God will not save you from radiation fallout or earthquakes. Come to your senses and stop believing Paul/Saul, who never EVER EVER met Jesus/Yeshua!!! Words not spoken by or about popeJesus written later than his death should be discounted and thrown out of the bible forever. YOU HAVE BEEN DUPED!!!!!
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Pre-tribulation rapture = demonic doctrine. Only believed in the USA. In Europe and elsewhere nobody believes or even talks about it. It simply doesn't exist.
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The rapture is a false teaching, and many will lose faith when they aren't magically taken up to the sky and have to suffer along with everyone else.
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Which is why it was so cleverly spread about :( poor people who believe it
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I've tried to talk to people about it, but, when I do I'm condemned to hell and told I need to read my Bible. If it weren't so sad that people can't think for themselves, it would almost be funny.
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OP, the Lord Yeshua is coming to take his Bride very soon. The hate, ridicule and mockery shown here shows the world does not want to hear this.

Yeshua will come anytime to take his Church! Keep on preaching it!!!!!

To everyone else.... REPENT!!!!!! Call upon Yeshua for the remission of your sins. He loves you and will forgive you. Come to him today, since you may not have a tomorrow.
....and whatever you do, DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK... no... don't do it... STOP!!!! I warned you....

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"There is no debate that 1 Thessalonians 4, and 1 Corinthians 15 teach on the rapture." - OP


Ummm, yeah there is.

Tough to take you seriously when you start with this nonsense.
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OP = WRONG..

I am not even a christian..and I can prove from your own bible how WRONG you are.


#2 The rapture is at the 2nd coming of Christ
1st Thessalonians 4:15-17
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not preceed them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend with a shout, with the voice of an arch angel, and with the trump of God: and the dead will rise first:(THE RESSURECTION OF THE JUST!)
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall ever be with the Lord.

There are two main things I would like you to notice about this verse. First ....that the dead in Christ rise first. This is important because, there will be scripture use later that speaks of the resurrection of the just happening at the second coming, and we need to realize that the living will not precede the dead but will be caught up after them. So if the resurrection of the just is post trib then the rapture would be as well. Secondly I will give you the timing of this event that all agree is the rapture.

Verse 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not preceed them which are asleep.

The rapture takes place at the coming of the Lord, which we have already shown is after the tribulation. I could stop right now this is all the proof we need, but I have more. By the way, some thing for you to notice if a pretrib teacher ever teaches on the rapture they will skip verse 15 and quote verse 16 and 17 only. Is this open deception or an over sight? I will let you decide.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there be a falling away first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

In verse 1 Paul is speaking of two events. the coming of the Lord or '' The second coming'' and the gathering together unto him or '' the resurrection of the just and or rapture''.

In verse 3 we see that Paul says these two event happen on a singular day ''That day''. Also in verse 3 Paul writes that that day could not happen until after the falling away takes place and the anti christ is revealed.

Some pretrib preachers go as far as to say the falling away is the rapture, teaching that the rapture must come before the second coming. However the greek word for falling away is ''apostasia'', which literally means a turning from the truth.

So the church itself will turn from the truth (Seems the pre trib rapture doctrine is PROOF of this)and then the anti christ will be revealed and then (AND ONLY THEN)the rapture can take place, not before.

This passage excludes the pretrib view because we know that the anti christ will not be revealed before the tribulation starts but AFTER!!!. Further more it proves the post trib view because it declares that the second coming and the rapture take place on the same day

. These two events are not seven years apart, not three and a half years apart, not one year, one month or one day apart. They occur on the same exact day.

Matthew 24:12-13, Mark 13:13, and Revelation 2:26.
Matthew 24:12-13
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

(NOTICE IT DIDNT SAY HE WHO ENDURES TO THE START..OR THE MIDDLE..BUT THE END.

At the last trump,
1st Corinthians 15:51-53
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in a twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet will sound
, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, (THEN..RIGHT AFTER THAT)and we shall be changed.(RAPTURED)[/b]53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

(YEP..THATS THE RAPTURE ALRIGHT..RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST RESSURECTION WHICH IS CLEARLY SEEN WITH NO SCRIPTURE TWISTING NEEDED...TO HAPPEN WHEN???..AT THE LORD RETURN ON THE LAAAAST DAY!!!)

Anyone cane EASILY SEE that this is referring to the event known as the rapture. We see in the passage that it tell us when it will happen ''at the last trump''. We also see in Matthew 24:29-31 that there will be a trumpet sounded after the tribulation has ended.
Matthew 24:29-31
29 Immediately after the tribulation (I CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW PRE TRIBBER CAN IGNORE THIS..PERHAPS IT THREATENS THEIR BOOK SALES TOO MUCH)of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect(RAPTURE THEM) from the four winds from one end of heaven to the other.
If the rapture is at the last trump, which we know it is because God's word says it does. Then the rapture can not be before the trumpet sounded in Matthew 24, which is sounded after the tribulation is over.
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I sure wish there was going to be a rapture, in fact i used to believe there was, but sorry to say, I no longer believe there will be. Hope i am wrong, but i don't think so.
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Miley Cyrus said things are looking bad.
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dont let the door slap you in the ass now...
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Matt 24:13


But he that shall endure unto the end, will be saved.




rev 21:7

He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son.