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Man alters Reality by changing a Precognitive Dream - Pics and Evidence Included

 
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--edit 12/29/2015 Revamped this 2011 post for clarity.

Have you ever had déjà vu? Have you ever linked the memory or source of familiarity to something you dreamed about in the past? If so, you are experiencing first hand a relationship between the déjà phenomena and dreaming. This is known as Déjà Rêvé.

Have you ever had a lucid dream where you knew you were dreaming? What if your lucid dream took place in one of the Déjà Rêvé dreams linked to your Déjà Vu? What happens if you change the dream content during the lucid dream? Would those changes come true in the future when the dream comes true?

In 1998, I set out to answer that question? If I can change a precognitive dream, would those changes come true? This is what I uncovered.

The dreamstate is a spectrum with many different bands. One band deals with future physical content, and is the source of any Déjà Vu or Déjà Rêvé that you may have encountered. The other bands deal with different aspects of our personality from our emotions, fears, desires and so forth. They act like a filter for the most part keeping our attention in these lower bands. The precognitive band is very difficult to navigate too, so much so that my solution to this problem was to map out the bands.

The process was simple, make a slight change to the dream topology. To do this, I used dream control to influence a geometric footprint. The idea was if the dream was precognitive in nature then maybe the geometric footprint would occur when the dream came true.

In one successful example, I had a lucid dream where I recognized the place that I worked at the time which was a movie theater in Penticton BC called the Pen-Mar. I took the opportunity to change the dream using this mapping technique and focused on a co-worker who was standing behind the concession counter. In the lucid dream, I caused a triangle to appear on his forehead. This fell in line with the mapping phase of this experiement.

Approximately three weeks later, the dream came true. To his suprise, and others there the triangle formed preciecely as it had in the dream. Except this time, it was not the dreamworld but this physical reality. The triangle was so visable that I was able to take a photograph of it after the event.

Here is a picture of the triangle.

IMAGE ( [link to www.youaredreaming.org] )


The person who had this happen didn't know I was going to do this. He was simply in the right dream at the right time when I was conducting this experiment. We were both suprised when the triangle formed. He described it as a type of energy passing through his head. Other people working near him saw it. When he went home his mother thought he hit his head and asked about the mark. He told her that someone at work did it and told her that I somehow just put it there. This later lead to a discussion with his father about it and an explination.

Here is his account of the event.

IMAGE ( [link to www.youaredreaming.org] )


During that time, I did go to the local newspaper and they wrote an story regarding it, but other than that it had no other media attention.
News Paper Article:

IMAGE ( [link to www.youaredreaming.org] )


There would be other events similar but not as dramatic during the course of this experimentation. Enough to satisfy my own curiosity that there is a genuine relationship between precognitive dream content and the physical world. More importantly, that through lucid dreaming we can navigate to this band and actually change the initial dream content which ultimately changes reality when the dream comes true.

Not very many people report this, it is a very rare phenomena. But then not many people are turning their attention to this potential and exploring it. It is a relatively unknown enigma that is worth more than my own personal investigation.

Since that time, I have put together an abstract that covers the Theory of Precogntive Dreams and provides some techniques that may help you if interested in reproducing these results. You can read the paper here.
[link to www.youaredreaming.org]

I've also written a book which covers lucid dreaming and lucid dreaming techniques.
[link to youaredreaming.org]

Hopefully my research and this event inspires others to continue this kind of exploration and investigation with their own precognitive dream content. This is the best I can offer with regards to sharing something so obscure and rare with the public.

Good luck and happy dreaming.

Last Edited by YouAreDreaming on 12/29/2015 04:52 PM
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For a bit of background info, I have been interviewed by Robert Waggoner the recent president for the International Association for the Study of Dreams. British Author Anthony Peake has interviewed me on "Unravelling the Secrets" and discussed this on BBC Radio, ICE Radio and on "The Peake Experience" with Robert Waggoner.

Since Lucid Dreaming is a tool that you can use to explore this at your own discretion, here is a free article I wrote on Lucid Dreaming that covers one of the most effective techniques.

Lucid Dreaming Techniques
[link to youaredreaming.org]

Enjoy.
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I`ve put some of the evidence online in image format so you can have a look at all the accounts.

Here is the Kevin Triangle where I induced a triangle on his forehead by changing a dream before it came true.

This is the Original unmodified photos which are a Polaroid and a regular photo.


IMAGE ( [link to www.youaredreaming.org] )


This is the blow-up of the regular photo, contrast shifted pop`s the triangle out nicely.

IMAGE ( http: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] )


This is the Polaroid blown up

IMAGE ( [link to www.youaredreaming.org] )


Just a contrast shift to pop out the triangle.

IMAGE ( [link to www.youaredreaming.org] )


Here is Kevin`s account of the event.

IMAGE ( [link to www.youaredreaming.org] )


Using the same method I have also induced a triangle on my left hand. This was done as a result of using the look at your hand lucid dreaming method, with a twist. It also serves as a type of string on my finger to help remind me of the hard fact that dreams and reality are interconnected.


IMAGE ( [link to youaredreaming.org] )


This is the contrast shifted and just an enhancement to show location as it`s subtle, but it`s there and reproducible at any time.

IMAGE ( [link to www.youaredreaming.org] )


Here are some accounts from other people who I have also preformed this mapping technique.

[link to www.youaredreaming.org]

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[link to www.youaredreaming.org]

And that covers some of my evidence, I do have other items related to precognitive dreaming as such but this is a start.
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IMAGE ( [link to www.youaredreaming.org] )


For those of you who have experienced Déjà Rêvé, then you have had first-person experience with precognitive dreaming. A type of dream that conveys a future event in a non-linear and non-localized way that exists outside the future context within space/time that the dream data represents.


[link to www.youaredreaming.org]
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Don;t know that I've had deja reve. I've had reja vu though. It's the opposite of deja vu. Where something triggers a memory so strongly it's almost as though you are out of time and space and back to the moment the memory is forming. The older I get the less deja vu there is, and the more reja vu I have.

Anyways, if I can find the equilibrium between the two perhaps it will result in Deja Reve...
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Don;t know that I've had deja reve. I've had reja vu though. It's the opposite of deja vu. Where something triggers a memory so strongly it's almost as though you are out of time and space and back to the moment the memory is forming. The older I get the less deja vu there is, and the more reja vu I have.

Anyways, if I can find the equilibrium between the two perhaps it will result in Deja Reve...
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This is one of those things that either you will recognize it or will not depending on your personal experiences with it.

Dr. Art Funkhouser has compiled a frequency article that might interest you.

The frequency of déjà vu (déjà rêve) and the
effects of age, dream recall frequency and
personality factors

[link to archiv.ub.uni-heidelberg.de]

That said, if you are genuinely interested in this, I strongly believe you can attune your awareness to it and start to connect to that deeper unconscious layer where these events occur.

It does require an interest in dreaming to progress in this field. It is real, damn real. That I can assure you, but it`s up to you to drive at the experience through dreaming.
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Here is some supporting research proving precognition:

Daryl Bem's research "“Feeling the Future: Experimental Evidence for Anomalous Retroactive Influences on Cognition and Affect” [source] is the most recent study and favors precognition.

George Dragoi and Susumu Tonegawa from MIT show with their paper, “Preplay of future place cell sequences by hippocampal cellular assemblies” where mice demonstrate temporal sequences of firing of place cells expressed during a novel spatial experience occurred on a significant
number of occasions during the resting or sleeping period preceding the experience.

Dr. David Ryback also conducted a survey in his publication "Dreams That Came True" with a 8.8% frequency with regards to precognitive dreams.

Dr. Deborah L. Delanoy, Department of Psychology, University of Edinburgh has a precognitive database with frequency and evidence in support of precognition.

J. W Dunne with his "An Experiment in Time" which used the scientific method and established a baseline of evidence to support his own precognitive dreams.

German actress Christine Mylius who would send her dreams to Professor Bender at the Institute for Border-line areas of Psychology for archiving. When she would have a dream come true, they would reference it in the archives.

Another example is David Mandell who painted 9/11 images in 1996 with a timestamp on them as he tends to paint out his precognitive dreams.

There are more but this is really a good list to get you started on outstanding research and evidence on this topic.

My research of course is a bit further down the road of just having a precognitive dream and actually doing something with this phenomena...
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Jedi training begins now.
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Your post is too long and not too the point.
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Sounds interesting but I didn't see any triangle on the guys forehead in any of the photos.
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Your post is too long and not too the point.
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+1 Exactly my thoughts - get to the point OP
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I don't know if I believe in "physic" happenings or not... however, something that happens to me outside of Déjà vu, is something where I will believe I can feel an experience of "pre-deja vu" and almost know something is going to happen (ie. I'll be sitting at work, and realize I'm about to experience Deja vu, and believe an event is about to happen that would cause me to feel the Deja vu feeling, if that makes sense.)

9 times out of 10 the "event" I'm expecting never occurs. However, one time when I was driving, I got the sudden feeling of "pre-deja vu," and felt I was going to get into an accident. It was so strong, I started to pull off the road when a deer flew right out in front of me. I still clipped it, but had I been doing 50 instead of the 20 I slowed down for, I would have smashed it head on and likely flown off the road myself.

It's probably a coincidence, but it still stuck with me.
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I've found that the more I let loose of any fears, the more my dreams have become prophetic. Dreams are usually some type of metaphor played out by our subconscious mind in order to address that particular day's dilemma(s). Once you let go and/or accept something that bothers you, you no longer need to have that dream. If your mind is no longer focused on fear-based reality, then it allows you to have positive, and often, prophetic dreams.
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Yes, I am familiar with this. You are revealing occult secrets and how that the Elite use the "as above, so below" supernatural law to control what happens in this physical dimension.
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I request more info so bump
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I imagine that the OP, if he hasn't already, will get a PM telling him to shut the hell up. They don't take kindly to their secrets being exposed.
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I normally call B.S. but I have experienced a couple of instances of lucid dreaming (after reading Castaneda). They scared the crap out of me. I try not to look at my hands any more.
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I normally call B.S. but I have experienced a couple of instances of lucid dreaming (after reading Castaneda). They scared the crap out of me. I try not to look at my hands any more.
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Why are you scared?

Looking at the hands always does it. But you have to be aware enough in the first place to look at your hands, which means you're lucid before you're lucid.
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I swore to walk away. Why should I listen to you now? The last time I did this work on the forum, people died. You capable of changing that?
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I normally call B.S. but I have experienced a couple of instances of lucid dreaming (after reading Castaneda). They scared the crap out of me. I try not to look at my hands any more.
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Why are you scared?

Looking at the hands always does it. But you have to be aware enough in the first place to look at your hands, which means you're lucid before you're lucid.
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I don't really have any interest in getting "stuck" there. Both times I had some difficulty getting out.
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I normally call B.S. but I have experienced a couple of instances of lucid dreaming (after reading Castaneda). They scared the crap out of me. I try not to look at my hands any more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296217


Why are you scared?

Looking at the hands always does it. But you have to be aware enough in the first place to look at your hands, which means you're lucid before you're lucid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 910581


I don't really have any interest in getting "stuck" there. Both times I had some difficulty getting out.
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Lucid dreaming is for the most part, a learned skill like anything people accomplish within a life time. One of the major barriers is fear. And trust me... lots of fear issues that people have to work on.

I have a very old course on dreaming that you can read through that covers some of the more psychological challenges that comes with dreaming.

You must understand that for the most part; you exist in a dream illiterate world with very little applicable knowledge in this field other than misinformation, disinformation and simply bad belief-systems regarding a very natural occurring process of dreaming. I don't even host the course anymore, and in the middle of revising it.

[link to webspace.webring.com]

Once you get accustomed to lucid dreaming; it's quite an exciting an vivid experience you can have. Keep in mind this was skeptically debated with Malcolm (1959) yet it was proven as fact in the late 1970's.

Skeptics as usual spread disinformation and misinformation regarding things such as lucid dreaming. The same holds true with precognitive dreaming.

Hopefully more will come forward with their precognitive dream experiences as this will be an area of interest for affecting reality within this thread.

I will help anyone here interested approach this challenge with everything at my disposal as it is real. It is not just myself who has had Lucid Precognitive Dreams rather something some practiced lucid dreamers I know also have experienced.

The fact is, it's so unknown here on Earth at this time that it seems so ambiguous and untouched. Let's change that shall we?
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Jedi training begins now.
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I swore to walk away. Why should I listen to you now? The last time I did this work on the forum, people died. You capable of changing that?
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People die... however, I have talked with one person who had a lucid precognitive dream that saved his life in a car accident scenario; had he not realized the dream linked to a car accident as it happened, he would not have changed and ducked away from the steering column. After the accident it was made clear from fire rescue that he would have been impaled. He attributes his life to having had such an experience.

For myself, I am still exploring this unique state within dreaming but have enough experience to push forward a science and open the knowledge up in forums such as this as freely as it has come to me.

There is much to discuss on this topic.
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Your post is too long and not too the point.
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+1 Exactly my thoughts - get to the point OP
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Summary: I have changed precognitive dreams and have as a result affected and changed this reality. That is as basic as it gets.

What it implies is that this reality has a relationship with what we dream. And is something that is not widely understood or known. That hasn't stopped me from figuring it out.

Feel free to question away if you need more info.
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting. Ever since the movie Inception, I have been drawn to Lucid dreaming. Having only done it once though in the last 6 months and only a few other times in my life.
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting. Ever since the movie Inception, I have been drawn to Lucid dreaming. Having only done it once though in the last 6 months and only a few other times in my life.
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The movie Inception by Christopher Nolan is quite needed in my opinion to get people more inspired about dreaming. As dreams are another aspect of our reality and a place where we can go and play God.

Although it's a bit Hollywood, there is truth in it, such as shared dreaming which is something I have also experienced and here is a sample from my blog where I had a shared dream with a Shoshoni Indian Dreamwalker.

[link to you-are-dreaming.blogspot.com]

Dreams are full of interesting anomalies such as this.
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Don;t know that I've had deja reve. I've had reja vu though. It's the opposite of deja vu. Where something triggers a memory so strongly it's almost as though you are out of time and space and back to the moment the memory is forming. The older I get the less deja vu there is, and the more reja vu I have.

Anyways, if I can find the equilibrium between the two perhaps it will result in Deja Reve...
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I had to look up reja vu as I had not heard of this type yet. In the context of Déjà Rêvé, you would know it stems from a dream after the onset of Déjà Vu when you link the memory.

Depending on how clear your memory is; the information can be quite literal and staggeringly accurate.

I'm still struggling to understand this relationship between dreams and reality; suffice to say I do have some theories that are supported by other thinkers of today which embark on this particular rabbit hole of thought.

Dr. Fred Alan Wolf wrote a book called, "The Dreaming Universe" where he describes the entire Universe as being derived from dreams and is itself dreaming. Interesting coming from Dr. Quantum.

Other people are Tom Campbell from the Monroe Institute and has worked for the DoD and Nasa who said it is consciousness that props up physical matter reality and forms it through digital information processing; much like a matrix.

This is also supported with Digital Physics and Information Theory, all out-of-the-box ways of looking at how Reality is constructed out of information processing and consciousness.

Precognitive dreams are a window of insight into this mechanic, I can get into it further time permitting.





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