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Man alters Reality by changing a Precognitive Dream - Pics and Evidence Included

 
youaredreaming  (OP)

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Thank you for the explanation and confirmation, OP!

You admirably have the HOW down to a science, and i wonder if you could talk about the WHY.
 Quoting: 12000Eyes


The WHY?

If we look at a big picture of ourselves, and what we experience as "reality", then dreams are one more channel of which we as this conscious self can experience.

With lucid dreaming, you now up the level of the experience to something more whole, and all encompassing. You now have another place where to experience yourself awake and conscious.

However this place you can fly, you can teleport. You have no limits. So why not?

It's amazing.
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Interesting read OP, thanks for the links. Gonna look into this.
BTW can you make triangles appear in your post?

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What if your precognitive, lucid and vivid dreams flash through your mind constantly as you go about your day, all day every day.

Some dreams feel like they are being stored and my mind keeps wanting to access them.
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Many of my dreams come into being,

sometimes years later
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What if your precognitive, lucid and vivid dreams flash through your mind constantly as you go about your day, all day every day.

Some dreams feel like they are being stored and my mind keeps wanting to access them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1166366


Like JT on Scrubs?

{ :grin: JK :grin: }

But, kidding aside ~ that would be surreal, i think.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Eschewing Obfuscation
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So maybe our nuerological brain signals tap into this quantum level?
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You think it. it happens. the world is a repetition of quantum possibilities.

you can take yourself anywhere at the drop of a thought.
youaredreaming  (OP)

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Many of my dreams come into being,

sometimes years later
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1166366


This is a curious thing about time for precognitive dreams; also one of the factors why things like the scientific method struggles with anomalous non-linear events like precognition.

In my experience I have had over a 10 year gap before some dreams have come true, others can span weeks and there are symbolic precognitive dreams which can be same day, or next day but enveloped in symbolism.

Very interesting phenomena to both experience and try to understand.

I'm glad you are experiencing them! Excellent!

Any lucid dreams mixed in yet?
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Lucid dreams I believe are very different than daily REM state dreams.

For example I just had my first dream where I killed someone and then did some research on the subject and learned many have these type of dreams but there is no case where any of the dreamers have gone out and actually killed someone. Dreams have much to do with your subconscious acting out on its thinking process through symbolism a one must not forget that. Lucid dreams are controlled by our conscious thinking process and are I believe are different.
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So maybe our nuerological brain signals tap into this quantum level?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1305724


You think it. it happens. the world is a repetition of quantum possibilities.

you can take yourself anywhere at the drop of a thought.
 Quoting: bed


I have to say, I really enjoyed that last statement. I feel also that thought is a very powerful part of what we are and it does have an ability to accelerate us into very powerful experiences in this Universe.

Thanks :D
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What if your precognitive, lucid and vivid dreams flash through your mind constantly as you go about your day, all day every day.

Some dreams feel like they are being stored and my mind keeps wanting to access them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1166366


I have talked with some people who claim to be in perpetual deja vu/deja reve experiences. This experience really sits within a unique bell-curve of volume.

Dreams are information systems, very composed ideas and thoughts which have interesting meanings, ideas and reality concepts.

It is an extension of what we are, as humans being involved in our dreams project us into greater ideas beyond physical reality. They are micro-realities in their own right.

Real, but subjective and unique. What people make of them is their own attitude and beliefs.
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Lucid dreams I believe are very different than daily REM state dreams.
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You are absolutely correct there. They need their own classification and recognition as being more then just "dreaming".

For example I just had my first dream where I killed someone and then did some research on the subject and learned many have these type of dreams but there is no case where any of the dreamers have gone out and actually killed someone. Dreams have much to do with your subconscious acting out on its thinking process through symbolism a one must not forget that. Lucid dreams are controlled by our conscious thinking process and are I believe are different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 759169



Dreams are a vehicle of intellectual and emotional experiences. You can control them. I certainly have had my share of amazing dreams where I consciously formed and shaped every minute detail.

Unconsciously though this also goes on with or without my waking self stepping in and grabbing hold of the "thought" crayon and drawing some interesting experiences.

The fact is... dreams do matter and are a part of us.

It's up to us individually to choose what to do with them. That is what makes dreaming exciting. They are something we can control and experience.
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I have these Deja Reve experiences as well as the lucid dreaming. Interesting story.
 Quoting: GUANO


Excellent, all that is left is that you join the two if you haven't already and all that I speak about will be known to you.

;)


 Quoting: youaredreaming


I don't know any of you well enough to work on any experiments...

Just based on your results as well as what I know about my own dreams I think I know how to begin experimenting myself if I ever decided to (which I probably wont).

The problem I see is that, at least with my dreams, the things that happen in the dream are so different from the way the dream manifests in the future that it's hard to tell what your results are going to be LOL... at least when it comes to the nature of my dreams...

not to mention that technically, the images shown to you within dreams are 'spirits'... to manipulate the mechanisms which each image represents would be an attempt to use spirits to manipulate the physical environment---sorcery... I know way too much about it to attempt experiments... I like my brain...
Total Protonic Reversal...
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quantum physics is BS... there are multiple posibilities but only one will 'happen'... All those other dimentions related to every possibility only exist in your mind...

Quantum physics is like asking if a tree fell in the woods and there was no one around to hear it--would it make a sound?
Total Protonic Reversal...
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So maybe our nuerological brain signals tap into this quantum level?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1305724


You think it. it happens. the world is a repetition of quantum possibilities.

you can take yourself anywhere at the drop of a thought.
 Quoting: bed


This has been happening to me quite frequently of late.

I find that if I think hard on something (beneficial to the plot) it materializes. Not in that it appears magically before your eyes, but within a short span of time, comes into your possession.

A case in point, I have been constructing a solar concentrator that tracks the sun and concentrates the energy onto a small steam boiler. Part of the system required a storage pressure vessel and I envisaged a small mains pressure hot water service would be ideal. I saw an image of what I needed in my mind. The following day, a friend who is the local plumber handed me EXACTLY the tank I had envisaged and said simply.."I thought you could use this." I was dumbstruck, it was identical to that which I projected.

Then as part of my low voltage power system (to get me off the grid), I was mooting the possibility of converting a washing machine. The best option was the old style 'twin-tub' machines, that were simple and effective. These have been out of service for many years and I thought I would have trouble procuring a suitable model. Again I had a firm mental picture of what I wanted and was talking to a friend about it when the phone rang. The friend had mentioned that I should look for a particular model with a slanted agitator (never seen one). The phone call was from a chap who had previously mentioned that when he bought his new PC, I could salvage the old one. He told me to come over and pick it up and that he had some other things to give me. I thought they were computer related, but was again dumbstruck to find that he had a twin-tub washer (with slanted agitator) in near new condition. He told me to take it as he thought I could use it. Strange, no ... meant for a purpose, yes .. to realize the power within and use it responsibly.

Do try this at home, be careful for what you wish.
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I rarely if ever remember a dream. But sometimes, in my waking day, I'll notice some object in my environment, and it triggers a sudden remembrance of that object from a dream state. It's completely unknown to me until I'm triggered by seeing the object.

Example.. one day I was cleaning off the counter, and noticed a glass hen, which had been my mothers. I suddenly remembered the night before I had dreamed that this very hen got smashed in an incident where a box full of heavy stuff fell onto it, and for a moment felt confused why it was still intact on the counter. It felt like some kind of reality bleed through from the dreamstate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296961


Interestingly enough dream research in sleep laboratories indicate that we have up to 6 dreams a night, but due to something I coined, "Sleep Induced Amnesia" the memories occur out-of-phase with our waking awareness.

Like amnesia, a trigger can suddenly revitalize a compartmentalized memory and bring it back into our waking consciousness from our unconscious. Most of us are dream illiterate so succumb to poor dream practices and tend to just develop bad habits regarding dreaming and dream recall in general.

This is remedied by practicing dreaming and recording dreams in a journal in the morning. There are steps one can take to increase memory and they are not that difficult to say the least.
 Quoting: youaredreaming


I frequently have the same happen as AC1296961. When I was younger I often had deja vu's. Never tried or should I say think to try and change a dream, for some reason or other I just roll with it. Love to know HOW to effect change.

OP as for your comment of dream amnesia as you put it. My experience has been that upon waking to not get up or stir at all just lay in the same position that you woke from and think about your dream(s). This works for me it is as if the dream is but a cloud over your head and easily dissipates if you move around.
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OP question for you

a couple of nights ago I had a dream that I exited (for lack of a better word) and came back into the same dream to my surprise. The best I can do is to relate it to a movie you may be watching on TV and then go off to say answer the door and come back to the movie having missed a part of it

Dream (shortened) I got into a newish pickup truck (btw I don't owen a truck, never have) backed up to turn it around and go in the other direction driving down the street I came upon a man on a bicycle next I know I'm now peddling a bicycle only my bicycle has square wheels and I'm having a hard time peddling so I get off and start to walk the bike. In the same dream in a flash if you will I am now back in the same truck and driving along the same street. Here is where it gets weird in the sense I have never had this happen before. All of a sudden I seem to suddenly awaken to find myself behind the wheel of this same truck and I'm driving very fast through a rural looking residential area I'm somewhat shocked that I'm in dream state, in a dream that seems to have gotten started without me. I then slow the truck down to a reasonable speed.
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My family practices neural energy transmissions between each of us. I don't know what to call it otherwise. I've had this experience with strangers as well, but more commonly with artists than other brain function-development people. I feel as if I communicate with these energy properties before I communicate verbally.

The verbal cofirmations continuously prove cerebral intent is clearly defined and received through "something". I know people have defined "something" as the aether. But the properties are different than globally registering.

I believe the process of transferring thoughts via a microchip, possibly called brain-talk, like a built in phone system will be the mark of a beast, ie one who is not capable of performing this process without the aid of this technology.
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I imagine that the OP, if he hasn't already, will get a PM telling him to shut the hell up. They don't take kindly to their secrets being exposed.
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the site is completely shut down now...looks like they just went right to the source!
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I imagine that the OP, if he hasn't already, will get a PM telling him to shut the hell up. They don't take kindly to their secrets being exposed.
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the site is completely shut down now...looks like they just went right to the source!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306151


I was warned once back in 1992 but didn't take it seriously at all.

My site was down, hosting issues with Godaddy. It's back now.

I'm in my work week so I'll try to make some time to come back and address some of the recent posts either tonight or tomorrow.
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bsflag

Somebody's going to do it at some point for no reason--I thought I'd be the first tounge
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Not bullshit dude, not bullshit at all.
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I don't know any of you well enough to work on any experiments...

Just based on your results as well as what I know about my own dreams I think I know how to begin experimenting myself if I ever decided to (which I probably wont).
 Quoting: GUANO


Hey Guano,

It would be interesting to see if a more structured and scientific approach can emerge with relation to lucid precognitive dreams. At this point in our history, it's really each of you who must endevor to pursue this idea within your own expeirences and observe the mechanics at play.

All I can do is offer my own experiences and ideas with regards to my experiments that yeilded phenomenological events when I successfully managed to change a precognitive dream.

The problem I see is that, at least with my dreams, the things that happen in the dream are so different from the way the dream manifests in the future that it's hard to tell what your results are going to be LOL... at least when it comes to the nature of my dreams...
 Quoting: GUANO


We do dream within a spectrum of experiences and yes it's very hard to determine what dream actually relates to a future event in physical reality until such a time that it's revealed when the dream actualizes. Even then, there may be several psychological factors which distorts or dims the memory, awareness and perception of the original dream.

Not as easy as I would like, but that doesn't stop the experience of precognition from surfacing in peoples lives.

not to mention that technically, the images shown to you within dreams are 'spirits'... to manipulate the mechanisms which each image represents would be an attempt to use spirits to manipulate the physical environment---sorcery... I know way too much about it to attempt experiments... I like my brain...
 Quoting: GUANO


This isn't how I view this with regards to sorcery, or the occult. Rather, it's an underlying function of consciousness within a larger consciousness system.

In having this relationship with a dream that has relevance to a future event; it's hard to dismiss that dreams and reality have a underlying relativity with each other.

I am writing a book that tries to address how information processing, thought and consciousness can prop up a concept such as any dream we have; and scale this up into a larger consciousness system to produce physical reality.

Dr. Fred Alan Wolf may have already beat me to that punch with his book, "The Dreaming Universe". Well worth the read as at least in my experiences; we do indeed exist in a dreaming Universe.

What does that mean? That's where exploration through dreaming comes in. The nature becomes self-evident.

At any rate, I think this is worth personally exploring without fear and belief-systems set aside.
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This has been happening to me quite frequently of late.

I find that if I think hard on something (beneficial to the plot) it materializes. Not in that it appears magically before your eyes, but within a short span of time, comes into your possession.

{snip}

Do try this at home, be careful for what you wish.
 Quoting: Abrakadabra 1309638


A very good example of thought manifestation; which if we look at precognitive dreams and the structure of what dreams are... they are a system based on thought.

Although thought manifestation is not directly linked to a sleeping dream; it is certainly something that does have merit when one explores "wishing" for things that later just coincidentally happen.

I've also been trying to understand that nature. It appears to have some validity except it's not as generous as it could be.
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I frequently have the same happen as AC1296961. When I was younger I often had deja vu's. Never tried or should I say think to try and change a dream, for some reason or other I just roll with it. Love to know HOW to effect change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1289972


Half the battle is having genuiine precognitive dreams so it sounds like that box is checked for you. The next step isn't really as hard as it sounds, but requires lucid dreaming and directing your intent at these specific types of dream during sleep.

You must try to attune yourself to the precognitive dream; be it a frequency, a focus or a band within a spectrum of dreams. Know that you are already there regardless of memory so try to tune into it's feeling, your awareness of it and gravitate to that focus state when dreaming.

Just the other day a person who read my Abstract said they are now experiencing an increased frequency of precognitive dreams as a result, and they are becoming quite intense.

OP as for your comment of dream amnesia as you put it. My experience has been that upon waking to not get up or stir at all just lay in the same position that you woke from and think about your dream(s). This works for me it is as if the dream is but a cloud over your head and easily dissipates if you move around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1289972


It's interesting how we phase out dream memories when we wake up, I also call that "Waking Induced Amnesia" when you do remember a dream but it quickly becomes forgotten on waking.

You are doing the right thing to address dream memory before engaging in waking activities.
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OP question for you

a couple of nights ago I had a dream that I exited (for lack of a better word) and came back into the same dream to my surprise. The best I can do is to relate it to a movie you may be watching on TV and then go off to say answer the door and come back to the movie having missed a part of it

Dream (shortened) I got into a newish pickup truck (btw I don't owen a truck, never have) backed up to turn it around and go in the other direction driving down the street I came upon a man on a bicycle next I know I'm now peddling a bicycle only my bicycle has square wheels and I'm having a hard time peddling so I get off and start to walk the bike. In the same dream in a flash if you will I am now back in the same truck and driving along the same street. Here is where it gets weird in the sense I have never had this happen before. All of a sudden I seem to suddenly awaken to find myself behind the wheel of this same truck and I'm driving very fast through a rural looking residential area I'm somewhat shocked that I'm in dream state, in a dream that seems to have gotten started without me. I then slow the truck down to a reasonable speed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1289972


As you pay more attention to your dreams you will see these rich and elaborate plots; also a "second life" can emerge where you can have continuity dreams as you describe.

Having this second reality to be in and play with is exciting. I'm a amazed at the negative and disturbingly ignorant attitude towards dreams in our current westernized culture.

Sad really.
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My family practices neural energy transmissions between each of us. I don't know what to call it otherwise. I've had this experience with strangers as well, but more commonly with artists than other brain function-development people. I feel as if I communicate with these energy properties before I communicate verbally.

The verbal cofirmations continuously prove cerebral intent is clearly defined and received through "something". I know people have defined "something" as the aether. But the properties are different than globally registering.

I believe the process of transferring thoughts via a microchip, possibly called brain-talk, like a built in phone system will be the mark of a beast, ie one who is not capable of performing this process without the aid of this technology.
 Quoting: pie


I'm not opposed to the idea of telepathy as in cases of mutual or shared dreaming the only thing that makes sense is some type of telepathic communication between the dreamers sharing the dream.

Nice to know you are actively engaged in this kind of exploration.
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bsflag

Somebody's going to do it at some point for no reason--I thought I'd be the first tounge
 Quoting: AC_No_More


Not bullshit dude, not bullshit at all.
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It is to those who do not have any personal frame of reference to the material. Suffice to say, there are plenty that do so I don't sweat the counter-punch arguments against such a phenomena.

Hopefully more people will take note, take on the torch and explore this first-hand. I really want to encourage people in this direction. It's very real, and a must have experience imo.
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thanks for the bump...
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I still check the thread so feel free to explore the *fact* that this is a dream right now and you are dreaming it.





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