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•Number One Science Blog calls for a boycott of Google.•

 
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Google wins!
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Google wins!
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Is that a Charlie Sheen reference?
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I dunno, but calling [link to wattsupwiththat.com] the "Number One Science Blog" is bsflag
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and the quote on this "science blog"

"...the world's most viewed climate website"
- Fred Pearce The Climate Files: The Battle for the Truth about Global Warming

that just says it all huh...


"Starting in the early 1990s, three large American industry groups set to work on strategies to cast doubt on the science of climate change. Even though the oil industry’s own scientists had declared, as early as 1995, that human-induced climate change was undeniable, the American Petroleum Institute, the Western Fuels Association (a coal-fired electrical industry consortium) and a Philip Morris-sponsored anti-science group called TASSC all drafted and promoted campaigns of climate change disinformation."

[link to www.desmogblog.com]


and btw, Fred Pearce is a tool.
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I dunno, but calling [link to wattsupwiththat.com] the "Number One Science Blog" is bsflag
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Its just a fact mate:
[link to 2011.bloggi.es]
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I dunno, but calling [link to wattsupwiththat.com] the "Number One Science Blog" is bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229673


Its just a fact mate:
[link to 2011.bloggi.es]
 Quoting: ShaneCMuir


It's just an opinion, mate... and like assholes...
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03/20/2011 04:01 AM
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Shane, "Climategate" showed that scientists are extremely worried about the changes taking place and that they need to be careful to uphold their standards. It did not indicate that the IPCC was "tricking" us. You've fallen for the distortions of that story and you're siding with the oil companies who have been dictating government policy. Then you complain about corporate/govt fascism as defined by Mussolini? Yeah, that's where YOU are! YOU are siding with the fascistic corporate side that is fucking up the planet beyond all recognition.

Google says "Do No Evil" and as far as I'm concerned, they're living up to that. You are not.

Wattsupwiththat.com looks like a really stupid blog and I can't believe it was voted to be the best. Must have gotten scads of votes from dumbass rightwingers. Pharyngula is a far better science blog, there is no contest.

And "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers" a B-movie?? Pffffft it's a classic, big production A-movie all the way. That guy is an idiot.

GOOD FOR GOOGLE!
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and the quote on this "science blog"

"...the world's most viewed climate website"
- Fred Pearce The Climate Files: The Battle for the Truth about Global Warming

that just says it all huh...


"Starting in the early 1990s, three large American industry groups set to work on strategies to cast doubt on the science of climate change. Even though the oil industry’s own scientists had declared, as early as 1995, that human-induced climate change was undeniable, the American Petroleum Institute, the Western Fuels Association (a coal-fired electrical industry consortium) and a Philip Morris-sponsored anti-science group called TASSC all drafted and promoted campaigns of climate change disinformation."

[link to www.desmogblog.com]


and btw, Fred Pearce is a tool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229673


What's all that about?

Complete rubbish I would say..

Who is Fred Pearce?

[link to wattsupwiththat.com] is the science blog of the year.

proof: [link to 2011.bloggi.es]

Big Oil has been financing the Global Warming agenda!

You have your facts all messed up!
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www.scroogle.org
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Shane, "Climategate" showed that scientists are extremely worried about the changes taking place and that they need to be careful to uphold their standards. It did not indicate that the IPCC was "tricking" us. You've fallen for the distortions of that story and you're siding with the oil companies who have been dictating government policy. Then you complain about corporate/govt fascism as defined by Mussolini? Yeah, that's where YOU are! YOU are siding with the fascistic corporate side that is fucking up the planet beyond all recognition.

Google says "Do No Evil" and as far as I'm concerned, they're living up to that. You are not.

Wattsupwiththat.com looks like a really stupid blog and I can't believe it was voted to be the best. Must have gotten scads of votes from dumbass rightwingers. Pharyngula is a far better science blog, there is no contest.

And "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers" a B-movie?? Pffffft it's a classic, big production A-movie all the way. That guy is an idiot.

GOOD FOR GOOGLE!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1304914


While you were at Wattsupwiththat.com you should have checked out the science behind the debate rather than just looking at the pictures.

Climategate showed that the IPCC scientists were prepared to do just about anything to push the global warming agenda.

Check out the video I posted about what "hide the decline" really means..

It is you that has "fallen for the distortions".
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Google has nothing to fear from that sorry excuse for a science blog
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Google has nothing to fear from that sorry excuse for a science blog
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We will see.. This is all about the science.. not Public Relations
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www.scroogle.org
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MDIvey commented:

"Speaking of “smelling the coffee,” while the letter is properly indignant and makes several good points, it strikes me as coming from a place that’s a little behind the info-curve with regard to the nature of the Google operation.

This is not about economics. Many of us have known for a good while that Google is now a tool of the emerging globalist corporate/banking one-world government. Google = NSA. Google = CIA. There is nothing that is done through Google in its various forms that is not data-based for the purpose of social control. The “New World Order” does not allow an organization that becomes as big and influential as Google to go un-controlled.

The slogan, “Do No Evil” is simply par for the course in our Orwellian age of Doublespeak where is war is sold as humanitarian and ‘business as usual’ is sold as “Change.”

The comment above regarding this being an issue of free speech is right on the money. It’s an issue of the attempted execution of free speech and the elevation of “perception management.”

I disagree with the comment from sHx above when he says, “…as though there is something secret, illegal or immoral about taxation.” That is radically naive! As though there cannot be anything secret, illegal or immoral about taxation!!! HA!!! That is exactly the kind of slave-thinking they wish to create. sHx should read the history and legal track of our “income tax.” "
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Hugh Pepper commented:

"This is utter nonsense! Paranoid rant!"

Squidly replied with:

"Hugh,

You evidently don’t understand where Google is these days, and that is a shame. I would recommend that you open your eyes. This is by no means the first of this kind for Google, and I am sure it won’t be the last. Google has steadily been increasing its political and ideological views within their search results for quite some time. I am an SEO expert, perhaps one of the best in the country, and I can tell you emphatically, Google results are tainted and have been for several years now (getting worse). I have not trusted their results on any controversial topics for quite some time. They have become another Wikipedia.

Further, Google is playing a very dangerous game, and I don’t believe they fully understand this. They seem to feel that they are so big that they above reproach. I can assure you that they are not. I predict that Google will fall from their “king of the hill” position within the next 5 years. Mark your calendar. Once you have begun the journey down the road they have chosen, you cannot turn back. It will bite them in the end."
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DO NOT WORRY
THEIR EFFORTS ARE ONLY FULE FOR THE FIRE

THE WORLD SHALL BE TERRIFIED OF THE WAVES AND QUAKES

JESUS IS COMING SOON
BELIEVE IN HIS NAME
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Owen commented:

"Google is just another mainstream media propaganda machine. It’s the internet version of the Soviet Union’s mouthpiece Pravda. Google doesn’t care for truth, fairness or honesty; they believe in brainwashing, misinformation, lying and distortion. They want to stifle any group of people that doesn’t conform to their agenda. Big brother is Google.

I mourn for democracy, freedom of speech and unbiased science. They’re all dead. We’re reverting back to the dark ages."
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DO NOT WORRY
THEIR EFFORTS ARE ONLY FULE FOR THE FIRE

THE WORLD SHALL BE TERRIFIED OF THE WAVES AND QUAKES

JESUS IS COMING SOON
BELIEVE IN HIS NAME
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I won't be terified of waves and quakes.

:-)
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03/20/2011 05:40 AM
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yawn...
Since Google is the biggest search engine, boycotting it will only lead to you getting less information, which is, of course, in favour of TPTB.

Wake me up when they start filtering search results and i`ll be the first tio boycott them.
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yawn...
Since Google is the biggest search engine, boycotting it will only lead to you getting less information, which is, of course, in favour of TPTB.

Wake me up when they start filtering search results and i`ll be the first tio boycott them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255


Let me refer you to a something I posted a few posts earlier..

"I am an SEO expert, perhaps one of the best in the country, and I can tell you emphatically, Google results are tainted and have been for several years now (getting worse). "

SEO is search engine optimization.. ie the guy knows what he is talking about.

So..

You joining the boycott??
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Bob Diaz commented:

"I’m really pissed at Google. A search engine should provide BOTH sides of any issue without the political filtering. IF that’s what Google wants to do, then I don’t have to use them.

I encourage others to switch search engines. BLEEEEP Google!!!!"
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JamesW commented:

"Google is a tool and front operation of the global elite….Is no wonder they would push the agenda of the globalist. You don’t join Bilderberg or go to meeting unless you are a willing participant to the agenda. Part of that agenda besides a one world government is CAGW. Through CAGW these globalist will extract money and power on to themselves and reduce those that pay it to worker slaves….It’s time people wake up. You have a choice RED pill or BLUE pill. Which one do you take?

MDIvey> Right on the money."
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Tesla_X commented:

Gentlemen,

This is about money and propping up failing investments, IMHO.

[link to www.wired.com]
Google is heavily invested in GREEN…as is Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers.

Their favored tech, like BLOOM ENERGY and both PV and Thermal Solar are heavily dependent on Government and SGIP Money to even be barely competitive with Natural Gas derived power.

SGIP (the self generation incentive program) is stalled here in California, and BLOOMs biz models rely HEAVILY on these funds (and the creative use of limited amounts of things like ‘directed biogas’), especially since I suspect they are still trying to cope with things like a $12/watt cost and what I suspect may be a short stack life (see Greentechmedia write-ups).
[link to www.greentechmedia.com]
[link to gigaom.com]
These boys at Google also have an Energy group that is heavily involved in all things green & energy trading, so I think all this Carbon hype and ‘PR’ is directed to propping up business models that will fail without carbon taxes/credits, heavy government subsidies, artificially high energy costs and a stimulated thirst for ‘green energy’…..whatever that is…….(think rare earth toxic processing and solar processing wastes fouling farming fields in China).

Note 2 of their 5 pet projects are in energy.
[link to www.google.org]

They are also heavy into Solar, another subsidy hungry business model:

This particular investment probably won’t do well with falling nat gas prices (or subsidies/carbon taxes):
[link to www.wired.com]
And:
[link to www.treehugger.com]

….which was tagged for trouble with the ailing economy:
[link to www.treehugger.com]

…Which has continued to decay:
[link to wealthcycles.com]

Then you have Germany, Spain and other markets slashing solar feed in tariffs and carbon as cheap as dirt (cow manure is worth more per ton, FYI).

You have stranded projects galore and the Gubmint has no real money left to support crony-carbon-loving and green tech….so they are in trouble.

What do you do when you are caught between a failing green market failing economy and failing subsidy dependent technologies?

=====>You say/do anything to can to save your @$$.<======

One linked article commentator asked if Google was the next Enron.

I've been wondering that myself lately…
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dp commented:

"If you think google isn’t invasive, pervasive, and meddling in every aspect of your life, block google.com in your firewall and disallow cookies from google for a few days and watch how much of the internet becomes unavailable.

Open the source view of just about any web page and count the entries for google. Including the home page of WUWT. And just for fun, google – oops, Bing “web beacon”. I’ve used a proxy server here for years and google has more entries in it than any other entity. It is amazing how fast pages load when you don’t have to drag google analytics and google ad services around with you"
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Google: "Do no evil" to "Up to no good" in less than a decade.

Nice going, Google.
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I read an article once where Brin said that the "do no evil" quote was targeted at their USERS, not themselves.

But anywho, good luck on the boycott. Don't see that happening any time soon.
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Oh you read it somewhere? well that's me convinced. Fucking retard. Evidence or GTFO.
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yawn...
Since Google is the biggest search engine, boycotting it will only lead to you getting less information, which is, of course, in favour of TPTB.

Wake me up when they start filtering search results and i`ll be the first tio boycott them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255


Let me refer you to a something I posted a few posts earlier..

"I am an SEO expert, perhaps one of the best in the country, and I can tell you emphatically, Google results are tainted and have been for several years now (getting worse). "

SEO is search engine optimization.. ie the guy knows what he is talking about.

So..

You joining the boycott??
 Quoting: ShaneCMuir


Oh he says he's an SEO expert, well that's me convinced. Fucking listen to yourself for a second. SEO is at best some dumb cunt who has a link farm, big fucking whoop. These people are experts they're just dumb cunts who think they can reverse engineer Google. Fuck sake, how about calming the fuck down and thinking about things rationally. Oh wait, it;s GLP. Carry on then. [stupid cunts]
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Oh he says he's an SEO expert, well that's me convinced. Fucking listen to yourself for a second. SEO is at best some dumb cunt who has a link farm, big fucking whoop. These people are experts they're just dumb cunts who think they can reverse engineer Google. Fuck sake, how about calming the fuck down and thinking about things rationally. Oh wait, it;s GLP. Carry on then. [stupid cunts]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1303651


To be a good SEO you must have some clue as to what google are doing with their rankings.. thats what an SEO does.

Are you suggesting google does not fiddle with the search results?

Are you suggesting google does not have a green agenda?

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Andrew30 comments:

"Who do we know that is committed to the anti- CO2 green-money pit and believes that CO2 os the bane of human existance?

Nov 30th 2010
“EU launches antitrust probe into alleged Google abuses”
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Feb 24th 2010
“Google faces European competition inquiry”
[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Nov 30th 2010
“Google v Regulators: The battle begins:
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

There are hundreds of such new stories, and they have become more frequent.

I’m sure that Google was under “No Pressure” to make this decision.

The question is, how does what Google has chosen to do change the course of these ‘investigations’?

Intel, why didn’t you think of this?"
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John Warner commented:

"Lets just assume that for a minute CAGW is finally exposed as a fraud perpetuated by those making a living out of it and those with a political agenda in its favour – quite a possible outcome. Where will Google sit against angry citizen victims of this fraud. Google has lots of money and as a promoter of the fraud may well face a multitude of class actions all because it took sides instead of merely facilitating access to information. Or has it realised it is already in this hole and is digging itself in deeper?"
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dkkraft commented:

"To the folks upthread who suggested Dogpile as an alternative – thank you.

I just tested Dogpile vs. Google on these searches:

H.R. 1 – Dogpile gave a clean list of hits (on the House Continuing Resolution) leading off with the Thomas website “Text of Bill” page for the current session – perfect. Google also offered this, but you had to wade through some unrelated fluff to see it.

Agency Conflict – both sites delivered mostly the same results.

Frankfurt School – both sites delivered mostly the same results.

Conclusion: based on some search test topics that just sort of came to mind while reading Willis’s fine open letter :-) is that with Dogpile you lose nothing vs. Google, while you gain a cleaner search experience and you avoid the Google nonsense. No downside.

So Dogpile it is…

Thanks again for the info and thanks again Willis for providing the catalyst for this change."





GLP