Guy who put Ron Paul's face on his own minted coins convicted of "domestic terrorism," could get 15 years

Your words are true. Hopefully real America will wake up and deal with the only real terrorism in our midst. Our government.

I find you guilty of thinking without permission.

Five years at hard labor and food only bread and water.

That will fix your attitude problem.

lol funny

what about freedom of speech+ what about art installation what about liberty what about individual freedom what about corporate freedom

what about the right to express oneself

what about freedom

WHAT ABOUT FREEDOM?

It's Not Your Debt [link to www.youtube.com]

We don't have that anymore. With the patriot act, anyone who even *seems* out of the ordinary is considered a terrorist.

No way, I'm already dead. If your plans revolve around you always surviving, your plans will fail. One must eventually stand for what's right or ones doomed to return until one does.

The theft of the seigniorage is explained here:

Thread: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul (Page 37)

If the books are to ever balance the seigniorage must be vested in the people in general or to the producers who supply products and commodities in exchange for the numbers.

So it's illegal to make a personal currency?
So would stores that offer in store credit be breaking the law?
I'm so confused.

the thing about in store credit and gift cards is that in many states they are covered by "escheat laws" and if unclaimed for a certain period of time the state takes a big cut of that money

but either way those are still based in US dollars and sales tax is still charged, and in store credits are still accounted for under GAAP in terms of USD

Molyneux videos (start with number three):

#1: [link to www.youtube.com]
#2: [link to www.youtube.com]
#3: [link to www.youtube.com]
#4: [link to www.youtube.com]

He has really been prolific. Over 300 videos listed at U-Tube: [link to www.youtube.com]

The Social Contract [link to www.youtube.com]

Decoding History: [link to www.youtube.com]

How the Government turns everyone into an asshole: [link to www.youtube.com]

No. It's just illegal to coin money I think. In store credit is usually on one of those cards and that might be just a transfer of funds like a rechargeable debit card.

Yea it's kind of stupid that you can do that and create paper currency like this Baltimore Group did but you can't mint coins. It's in the Constitution.

Baltimore Group Creates Local Currency > [link to wamu.org]

And that also shows us just how "electronic" our money has become. Anything on a magnetic strip or an RFID chip is virtual money and could disappear without a trace. Not so with tangible currency.

Why do you think they try so hard to get us to put everything onto cards and into electronic accounts?

Having a potentially worthless paper currency is one thing, having a representation of that paper currency on a magnetic strip is a whole other beast.

:money:

Sorry but I for one no longer accept rationale that I dont agree with, from people who have a financial interest in forcing me to do things their way for their benefit.
Any time you automatically accept the opposition as the final authority and ultimately entitled to make the rules to their satisfaction you will never win against them. The only remaining discussion is how fast you will lose the game.
At some point someone forgot that they were appointed as public 'servants'. The real problem is the public serant sector has a different culture from what used to be the public culture. As culture is a unique perception of reality, no two seperate cultures may coexist for long, one will win and one will die.

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 25 > § 486

§ 486. Uttering coins of gold, silver or other metal

Whoever, except as authorized by law, makes or utters or passes, or attempts to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver or other metal, or alloys of metals, intended for use as current money, whether in the resemblance of coins of the United States or of foreign countries, or of original design, shall be fined under this title [1] or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

Of course looking at the big picture, the stores and all businesses are themselves creatures of the state, and because of this, a portion of their proceeds goes back to the state as a tribute.

They are such because they were granted a "permit" to do business so therefore the state sees them as their own to do with as they see fit, to tax, to promote or destroy as it chooses.

Of course a person or business can choose NOT to get a permit and do business without it, but then if the state learns of it the business will be destroyed and the owner will be put in jail.

So you give the state your compliance to rule over you and your affairs, or you can choose not to. If you choose the latter then you will be destroyed. THAT is what the state sees as "freedom", you have the freedom to submit or be destroyed.

The greatest delusion extant is that electronic entries can have value.

Really like the name of this website:
[link to www.granddelusion.com]

Its the one size fits all crime.

this one

All this talk about my freedom being taken away is terrifying me. Bunch of terrorists, don't you have anything else to do instead of being terrorists? Just get back in line and go back to work. Pick a religion too if it strikes fear into your heart.

Its so easy, wake up every morning and go to work. Don't worry there will be hardly any time for yourself so you don't do anything a terrorist would do like think human- err terrorizing thoughts. Just work until you die, its easy! You get occupied and meanwhile you are working to sustain our precious economy that rapes, pillages, destroys and pollutes our home and everyone on it at the same time. What? That's not a good thing? What are you, a terrorist? It's either us or the planet silly, you should stop thinking so much- here have a coupon for 50% off on your next purchase at SEARS.

What? What do you mean what about your next of kin? who ca- oh don't worry we will establish even more laws and rules to keep him safe.

Is that so? I didnt vote for it. Once I start giving up authority over myself to someone that cares not for me or mine, and seeks only to enrich himself and limit me in my home am I not dead already?
Plenty of law not based on constitutional justice. So what?
You DO realize you're not gonna live forever, right?
The only way the PTB can balance their oh so precious p&l books it to confiscate all the value in the country for themselves and dispose permanently and efficiently of any that may feel they or their heirs have any claim to it?

Thanks for the link in law; I know I have it somewhere but could not find it on my computer.

There is a file out there found in multiple places that also sheds some light on the general topic.

EXTORTION SYSTEM OF THE RULING ELITE

[link to www.google.com] (just over 100 pages)

It doesn't matter if you voted for it, or were even alive when it was voted on. That's how law works. The post I replied to said that there was no law -- and that is simply untrue. I don't support this law, but it does exist. Pretending it doesn't exist is silly, and evidence of ignorance.

that is cause he is a fool and tool, good!

5a::5a::

Two good clear pictures of Bernard von NotHaus:
[link to www.silverbearcafe.com]

ONE PARAGRAPH FOUND AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT LINK:

The collapse of the dollar is a mathematically inevitable event. Those politicians and prosecutors who get ahead of this curve will make historic careers fighting for freedom. I believe that in the 2016 or 2020 presidential election we will have an Aware politician who rose to the highest level of power. This will because he had the courage to fight against the very powerful banking interests that have destroyed this country with their corrupt money. Those that awaken their fellow citizens to this most dramatic event in human history, will be doing the greatest service to their fellow man. If you want to become one of the Awakened, the best and fastest way is through the free Sons of Liberty Academy.

There is no law where there is no concern for rights of the governed. Somewhere you have left the legitimate concerns of the governed behind, most likely to make yourself an asset to the ptb by allying yourself to them and not your neighbor. Through out history the battle has been by one group to place a net of subservience over others and through control and theft, profit by it. One cannot combat corruption by following corrupt processes. One combats it by not supporting the enemy

Sure, you can lol all you want. Now answer the question: what terrorist act has he committed?

I was wondering, is it illegal to barter goods. Like what vonhouse did when he used his coinage.

From what I read of his intentions, he offered the coin as an exchange of goods. You buy an item at retail, offer the coin and get the barter items in return.

He paid no debt with the coin, just used it in a barter transaction. So if I barter something I made that looks like a dollar but is not sanctioned by the illegal feds, than, I am a terrorist.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.

You knows its against the law to use your hand to make a gun sign with your thumb moving back and forth. YOU TERRORIST.

No, try that at a cop once. Maybe you will be shot ten or twenty times and if you live, they give you life in prison for showing you god given hand doing something that scared them into action.

WHAT A WORLD THIS HAS BECOME

Barter is not illegal...for now.