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Message Subject Guy who put Ron Paul's face on his own minted coins convicted of "domestic terrorism," could get 15 years
Poster Handle Levi Philos
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Uttering Coins and other Absurdities

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 25 > § 486

§ 486. Uttering coins of gold, silver or other metal

Whoever, except as authorized by law, makes or utters or passes, or attempts to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver or other metal, or alloys of metals, intended for use as current money, whether in the resemblance of coins of the United States or of foreign countries, or of original design, shall be fined under this title [1] or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

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TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 25 > § 472

§ 472. Uttering counterfeit obligations or securities
Whoever, with intent to defraud, passes, utters, publishes, or sells, or attempts to pass, utter, publish, or sell, or with like intent brings into the United States or keeps in possession or conceals any falsely made, forged, counterfeited, or altered obligation or other security of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.


COUNTERFEIT, UTTERING - Title 18, U.S.C., Sec. 472, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to pass or 'utter,' with intent to defraud, any counterfeit United States Federal Reserve Note.


A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved beyond a reasonable doubt:


First: That the person passed or uttered a counterfeit Federal Reserve Note;

Second: That the person knew at the time that the note was counterfeit; and

Third: That the person passed the note willfully and with intent to defraud.

To 'pass' or 'utter' a counterfeit note includes any attempt to spend the note or otherwise place it in circulation.


Google search "uttering"
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Now, I ask, "Do you have a freedom of speech? Do you have a freedom to contract?"


What I have been posting to this forum over and over is that money is essentially a communication by means of symbols and contracts that allow the exchange of commodities, finished products, services, and human intellectual and physical labor.

Think proxy instruments if that will help.


We all have a natural right to communicate by whatever means is effective and to participate in the creation of the symbols and contracts by which that communication is carried - the "utterance of money."


It is a freedom of speech issue.



Two general and interlocking presumptions keep people locked into the same thought cycle. The first presumption is that money is a *thing* , and the second presumption is that money is a natural monopoly best controlled by a centralized "authority."

The following rational is to show how money can actually be a variety of methods of transferring things of value by proxy, and these methods can operate at competition thus filling Hayek's premise in "DENATIONALIZATION OF MONEY."

There are three general categories of things of value that could be the basis for issuance of money.

Commodities and finished products held for claim can be the basis for a form of warehouse receipt - a bearer title instrument.

A promise to create and deliver something of value in the future - the promissory note - a form of a contract.
Human time as represented by a symbol such as the Ithaca Hour and redeemable in human intellectual and physical labor.


Each of these categories could in turn be broken down into general classes of total value.

* Commodities, Products, Promises, and Time of high value and backed by insurance policies and/or performance bonds. Guaranteed redemption.

* Commodities, Products, Promises, and Time of moderate or medium value backed by cross collateralization such as cooperative membership and/or corporation stock, and/or union affiliation in the case of Time Symbols. The second class of value might be backed by a formalized system of mutual credit.

* Commodities, Products, Promises, and Time of low value could be transmitted without guarantee other than word of mouth recommendation and/or reputation records such as e-bay keeps on buyers and sellers.


Examining this structure in some depth you start to see that an entire matrix of things that can be money appears.

When you see that money is actually a method or set of methods of conveying ownership by proxy, then it becomes readily apparent that there should never be any shortage of money.

It is the limitation of money to be a single *thing* (things are found in limited quantities) rather than money as a communication that control freaks who steal by lying are enabled of their fraud.

Using precious metals for your "utterance" of money is essentially an anti-counterfeiting measure. Study out how the casinos issue gambling chips - they have a counterfeiting problem too, and have solved that problem by a variety of techniques.

Casino chips and other coins: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 15)
 
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