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# the Doppler Effect, the spirals, and Nibiru

MG-42

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the Doppler Effect, the spirals, and Nibiru
THE ANCIENT SURVIVORS WERE WARNING US WITH THE SPIRAL PETROGLYPHS.

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(not from survivors, but pretty interesting regarding what is on the 12,000 year old plate)

This will be my final attempt to prove to all of you that Nibiru is the real deal. After you read through these little tid bits of info, look at the two examples of images that I have used what I believe is a perfect example of the Doppler effect with Nibiru and the spirals.

DIAGRAM OF THE DOPPLER EFFECT

Here is a quote regarding the Doppler Effect:

' When an object in space is moving towards the observer it's colour changes by means of the Doppler Effect. This is effectively where the light waves are 'squashed' together and shift towards a different light spectrum. When the object is moving towards the observer at high speeds it turns blue. '

Now, look at this short 38 second clip of the Norway spiral.

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The Doppler Effect is caused by light being emmited from an object with significant radial velocity. In this case, the object we are speaking of is of GREAT size, and is coming towards us (approaching) which explains the blue appearance of the object in my photos that are posted down further in this thread and in the appearance of the Norway Spiral that I posted above.

According to the Doppler Effect, if an object with significant radial velocity is moving away from the observer, it will appear red. If the object is moving towards the observer, the object will appear blue.

When visible light is compacted in wavelength, it shifts towards the blue end of the spectrum. Objects moving at relativistic speeds have red or blue shifts that ARE visible to the naked eye.

Light itself is an Electromagnetic wave.

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Spectroscopic binaries
Sometimes, the only evidence of a binary star comes from the Doppler effect on its emitted light. In these cases, the binary consists of a pair of stars where the spectral lines in the light emitted from each star shifts first toward the blue, then toward the red, as each moves first toward us, and then away from us, during its motion about their common center of mass, with the period of their common orbit'

And on another note for you shills that keep coming back to my thread and bashing it, you can calculate the radial velocity by examining the secular change in the parallax.
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Another great diagram:

Here is the explanation of the Doppler Effect on wiki:

(More links throughout the posts if you can get through all of the shilling first)

Below is what I believe to be a perfect example that proves the Doppler effect is the explanation behind the spiral phenomenon and shows that there is a star/bodies heading our way.

Now,

here are two screenshots of mine that I took of the Australian Spiral. (This is my final attempt to prove to you that the spiral IS caused by a body/bodies heading our way)

After reading and understanding the deffinitions that I posted above, please look at these two photo screenshots that I took of the spiral. You can't see these images during the play of the video because it happens extremely fast. This is why I took screenshots instead.

(NOTICE THE COLOUR OF THE OBJECT)

photo 1:

photo 2:

here are three excellent videos of the Norway spiral (the first two are around 2 mins each and the third is 30 or so seconds) please have a look....

My screenshots were taken from this video of the Australian Spiral during certain times of the playing of the video:

I believe that there is a giant body/bodies heading our way.

Good luck to all of you

Last Edited by MG-42 on 09/12/2011 11:41 PM
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'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

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No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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The spirals are Torsion Field Weaponry being tested before the big comet arrives.

This will be my final attempt to prove to all of you that Nibiru is the real deal.

Here is a quote from a youtube video regarding the Doppler Effect:

' When an object in space is moving towards the observer it's colour changes by means of the Doppler Effect. This is effectively where the light waves are 'squashed' together and shift towards a different light spectrum. When the object is moving towards the observer at high speeds it turns blue. '

Here is the explanation of the Doppler Effect on wiki:

Now,

here are two screenshots of mine that I took of the Australian Spiral. (This is my final attempt to prove to you that the spiral IS caused by a body/bodies heading our way)

After reading and understanding the deffinitions that I posted above, please look at these two photo screenshots that I took of the spiral. You can't see these images during the play of the video because it happens extremely fast. This is why I took screenshots instead. If you need to know which video it was, ask me and I will leave you a link.

photo 1:

photo 2:

These photos are a perfect example of the Doppler Effect and Nibiru.

Take this information which ever way you please, I'm only trying to show you guys that you DO need to prepare. Im not fear mongering. As always, people will try to shill me and try to write my research off as BS/disinfo.

This is the real deal folks. The ancients tried warning us with their glyphs on the rock walls of the high lands of the earth and that information has been suppressed.

Good luck to all of you
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YOUR theories??? Well that explains your cockamamie explanation! You haven't a clue do you!? There are different methods to get readings from objects in outter space...the doppler isn't one of them....thanks for the laugh though, almost spit up my drink!

If you have anymore ridiculous funny theories keep them coming!
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YOUR theories??? Well that explains your cockamamie explanation! You haven't a clue do you!? There are different methods to get readings from objects in outter space...the doppler isn't one of them....thanks for the laugh though, almost spit up my drink!

If you have anymore ridiculous funny theories keep them coming!
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No,

this explains why the spiral is caused and why there is a blue object that appears when the video is paused. The blue object is causing the spiral as it's coming nearer.

Last Edited by MG-42 on 03/23/2011 02:26 AM
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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YOUR theories??? Well that explains your cockamamie explanation! You haven't a clue do you!? There are different methods to get readings from objects in outter space...the doppler isn't one of them....thanks for the laugh though, almost spit up my drink!

If you have anymore ridiculous funny theories keep them coming!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

You must be a targeting shill and known exactly what you were going to say ahead of time because no where in my thread did I use the words, 'my theories, or my theory'.

But, with all of the information I have presented to you,
that is the conclusion I came to.

Last Edited by MG-42 on 03/23/2011 02:29 AM
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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YOUR theories??? Well that explains your cockamamie explanation! You haven't a clue do you!? There are different methods to get readings from objects in outter space...the doppler isn't one of them....thanks for the laugh though, almost spit up my drink!

If you have anymore ridiculous funny theories keep them coming!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

No,

this explains why the spiral is caused and why there is a blue object that appears when the video is paused. The blue object is causing the spiral.
Quoting: MG-42

NO! Celestial bodies in space do not cause, and have not caused spirals within our atmosphere ESPECIALLY if they are no where near the earth! Plain and simple! The video proves nothing, just shows how gullible some people are...nothing more, nothing less. If you really want to learn about heavenly bodies then do proper research. I'm sure you have a local astronomy club that would be more then happy to answer any questions you may have, and I strongly suggest you contact them. You may actually learn some factual that you can use.
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Check out the links - this guy may be on to something
MG-42  (OP)

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YOUR theories??? Well that explains your cockamamie explanation! You haven't a clue do you!? There are different methods to get readings from objects in outter space...the doppler isn't one of them....thanks for the laugh though, almost spit up my drink!

If you have anymore ridiculous funny theories keep them coming!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

No,

this explains why the spiral is caused and why there is a blue object that appears when the video is paused. The blue object is causing the spiral.
Quoting: MG-42

NO! Celestial bodies in space do not cause, and have not caused spirals within our atmosphere ESPECIALLY if they are no where near the earth! Plain and simple! The video proves nothing, just shows how gullible some people are...nothing more, nothing less. If you really want to learn about heavenly bodies then do proper research. I'm sure you have a local astronomy club that would be more then happy to answer any questions you may have, and I strongly suggest you contact them. You may actually learn some factual that you can use.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

Wow, you seem pretty pissed off about something ?
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1293554

So far I clicked on your first link, and it's a VERY VERY VERY good explanation. Thank you my friend...

Once again, thank you
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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I hope you dont mind, I posted one of your links to the thread.. Thank you very much
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1293554

I hope you dont mind, I posted one of your links to the thread.. Thank you very much
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np
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YOUR theories??? Well that explains your cockamamie explanation! You haven't a clue do you!? There are different methods to get readings from objects in outter space...the doppler isn't one of them....thanks for the laugh though, almost spit up my drink!

If you have anymore ridiculous funny theories keep them coming!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

No,

this explains why the spiral is caused and why there is a blue object that appears when the video is paused. The blue object is causing the spiral.
Quoting: MG-42

NO! Celestial bodies in space do not cause, and have not caused spirals within our atmosphere ESPECIALLY if they are no where near the earth! Plain and simple! The video proves nothing, just shows how gullible some people are...nothing more, nothing less. If you really want to learn about heavenly bodies then do proper research. I'm sure you have a local astronomy club that would be more then happy to answer any questions you may have, and I strongly suggest you contact them. You may actually learn some factual that you can use.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

Wow, you seem pretty pissed off about something ?
Quoting: MG-42

The doppler effects works by measuring incoming waves. One can use a radar to visually see the doppler effect of radio waves, x rays, pretty much anything that emits energy (not solid particles), BUT the spiral effect has nothing to do with creating spirals in the sky. YOU CANNOT SEE THE WAVES WITH YOUR NAKED EYE, YOU NEED EQUIPMENT!!! Ever hear of a radio observatory? Specialized equipment such as this is needed.
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1293554

So far I clicked on your first link, and it's a VERY VERY VERY good explanation. Thank you my friend...

Once again, thank you
Quoting: MG-42

Of course he is on to something. I am dumbfounded why so many people don't even look at all the Data outthere (yes, I said data as in scientifically proven). Now I get why the shills are here trying to debunk this PX concept, it's their job and they have a family to feed too. But if you really look at their comments, it's pretty easy to see they do not have their hearts in it as they mostly just say "your an idiot" 6 or 7 ways and move on. Bottom line is most folks now realize something is fucked and even the most closeminded are starting to come around. Our job is to get a little ahead of the masses or we too are screwed.
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1293554

So far I clicked on your first link, and it's a VERY VERY VERY good explanation. Thank you my friend...

Once again, thank you
Quoting: MG-42

Of course he is on to something. I am dumbfounded why so many people don't even look at all the Data outthere (yes, I said data as in scientifically proven). Now I get why the shills are here trying to debunk this PX concept, it's their job and they have a family to feed too. But if you really look at their comments, it's pretty easy to see they do not have their hearts in it as they mostly just say "your an idiot" 6 or 7 ways and move on. Bottom line is most folks now realize something is fucked and even the most closeminded are starting to come around. Our job is to get a little ahead of the masses or we too are screwed.
Quoting: Reiki LA 1305837

No one said there wasn't any unexplained phenomenon's in the world. The blue spiral is one of them, but the explanation given here is not the cause or the answer.
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No,

this explains why the spiral is caused and why there is a blue object that appears when the video is paused. The blue object is causing the spiral.
Quoting: MG-42

NO! Celestial bodies in space do not cause, and have not caused spirals within our atmosphere ESPECIALLY if they are no where near the earth! Plain and simple! The video proves nothing, just shows how gullible some people are...nothing more, nothing less. If you really want to learn about heavenly bodies then do proper research. I'm sure you have a local astronomy club that would be more then happy to answer any questions you may have, and I strongly suggest you contact them. You may actually learn some factual that you can use.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

Wow, you seem pretty pissed off about something ?
Quoting: MG-42

The doppler effects works by measuring incoming waves. One can use a radar to visually see the doppler effect of radio waves, x rays, pretty much anything that emits energy (not solid particles), BUT the spiral effect has nothing to do with creating spirals in the sky. YOU CANNOT SEE THE WAVES WITH YOUR NAKED EYE, YOU NEED EQUIPMENT!!! Ever hear of a radio observatory? Specialized equipment such as this is needed.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

You JUST answered your own question why Obama was In Norway during the first spiral.
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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Excellent job OP!
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No,

this explains why the spiral is caused and why there is a blue object that appears when the video is paused. The blue object is causing the spiral.
Quoting: MG-42

NO! Celestial bodies in space do not cause, and have not caused spirals within our atmosphere ESPECIALLY if they are no where near the earth! Plain and simple! The video proves nothing, just shows how gullible some people are...nothing more, nothing less. If you really want to learn about heavenly bodies then do proper research. I'm sure you have a local astronomy club that would be more then happy to answer any questions you may have, and I strongly suggest you contact them. You may actually learn some factual that you can use.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

Wow, you seem pretty pissed off about something ?
Quoting: MG-42

The doppler effects works by measuring incoming waves. One can use a radar to visually see the doppler effect of radio waves, x rays, pretty much anything that emits energy (not solid particles), BUT the spiral effect has nothing to do with creating spirals in the sky. YOU CANNOT SEE THE WAVES WITH YOUR NAKED EYE, YOU NEED EQUIPMENT!!! Ever hear of a radio observatory? Specialized equipment such as this is needed.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

The link I posted says "most shifts" can not be seem with the naked eye - not all shifts - so I am not sure you are correct. Second, the spirals were blue indicating the star was moving toward us. Third, a brown dwarf or a dark star the spectrum of light it emits might be totally different than a regular star and therefore it' waves could be possibly visible as it moves toward us. Check out this link:

"In other words, the brown dwarf will be blue-shifting in its Doppler effect, whilst making only the smallest lateral transition through the heavens"

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Main article: Doppler spectroscopy

A star with a planet will move in its own small orbit in response to the planet's gravity. This leads to variations in the speed with which the star moves toward or away from Earth. I.e. the variations are in the radial velocity of the star with respect to Earth. The radial velocity can be deduced from the displacement in the parent star's spectral lines due to the Doppler effect. The radial velocity method measures these variations in order to confirm the presence of the planet.

The velocity of the star around the center of mass is much smaller than that of the planet, because the radius of its orbit around the center of mass is so small. Velocity variations down to 1 m/s can be detected with modern spectrometers, such as the HARPS (High Accuracy Radial Velocity Planet Searcher) spectrometer at the ESO 3.6 meter telescope in La Silla Observatory, Chile, or the HIRES spectrometer at the Keck telescopes. An especially simple and inexpensive method for measuring radial velocity is "externally dispersed interferometry". [1]

This has been by far the most productive technique used by planet hunters. It is also known as Doppler spectroscopy. The method is distance independent, but requires high signal-to-noise ratios to achieve high precision, and so is generally only used for relatively nearby stars out to about 160 light-years from Earth. It easily finds massive planets that are close to stars, but detection of those orbiting at great distances requires many years of observation. Planets with orbits highly inclined to the line of sight from Earth produce smaller wobbles, and are thus more difficult to detect. One of the main disadvantages of the radial-velocity method is that it can only estimate a planet's minimum mass. The posterior distribution of the inclination angle depends on the true mass distribution of the planets. The radial-velocity method can be used to confirm findings made by using the transit method. When both methods are used in combination, then the planet's true mass can be estimated.

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Excellent job OP!
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I don't know how to "bump" yet so posting this guys.
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If a star is moving, those lines shift in position. If the star is moving toward us, the Doppler effect will shorten its light waves, shifting the black lines toward the blue end of the spectrum.

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Main article: Doppler spectroscopy

A star with a planet will move in its own small orbit in response to the planet's gravity. This leads to variations in the speed with which the star moves toward or away from Earth. I.e. the variations are in the radial velocity of the star with respect to Earth. The radial velocity can be deduced from the displacement in the parent star's spectral lines due to the Doppler effect. The radial velocity method measures these variations in order to confirm the presence of the planet.

The velocity of the star around the center of mass is much smaller than that of the planet, because the radius of its orbit around the center of mass is so small. Velocity variations down to 1 m/s can be detected with modern spectrometers, such as the HARPS (High Accuracy Radial Velocity Planet Searcher) spectrometer at the ESO 3.6 meter telescope in La Silla Observatory, Chile, or the HIRES spectrometer at the Keck telescopes. An especially simple and inexpensive method for measuring radial velocity is "externally dispersed interferometry". [1]

This has been by far the most productive technique used by planet hunters. It is also known as Doppler spectroscopy. The method is distance independent, but requires high signal-to-noise ratios to achieve high precision, and so is generally only used for relatively nearby stars out to about 160 light-years from Earth. It easily finds massive planets that are close to stars, but detection of those orbiting at great distances requires many years of observation. Planets with orbits highly inclined to the line of sight from Earth produce smaller wobbles, and are thus more difficult to detect. One of the main disadvantages of the radial-velocity method is that it can only estimate a planet's minimum mass. The posterior distribution of the inclination angle depends on the true mass distribution of the planets. The radial-velocity method can be used to confirm findings made by using the transit method. When both methods are used in combination, then the planet's true mass can be estimated.

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When do we think we can get a "true mass" of PX?
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NO! Celestial bodies in space do not cause, and have not caused spirals within our atmosphere ESPECIALLY if they are no where near the earth! Plain and simple! The video proves nothing, just shows how gullible some people are...nothing more, nothing less. If you really want to learn about heavenly bodies then do proper research. I'm sure you have a local astronomy club that would be more then happy to answer any questions you may have, and I strongly suggest you contact them. You may actually learn some factual that you can use.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

Wow, you seem pretty pissed off about something ?
Quoting: MG-42

The doppler effects works by measuring incoming waves. One can use a radar to visually see the doppler effect of radio waves, x rays, pretty much anything that emits energy (not solid particles), BUT the spiral effect has nothing to do with creating spirals in the sky. YOU CANNOT SEE THE WAVES WITH YOUR NAKED EYE, YOU NEED EQUIPMENT!!! Ever hear of a radio observatory? Specialized equipment such as this is needed.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

You JUST answered your own question why Obama was In Norway during the first spiral.
Quoting: MG-42

lol, your to funny...I guess obama has all the answers now. I guess we should ask him what the REAL answer is. Again, what you put forward as an explanation has nothing to do with the spiral phenomenon. Again...you need special equipment to visually see energy waves in different spectrum's, the spiral phenomenon thus far is unexplained. For all we know it can be an energy weapon.
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Here's another good image of it:

Can someone post it in the thread?
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NO! Celestial bodies in space do not cause, and have not caused spirals within our atmosphere ESPECIALLY if they are no where near the earth! Plain and simple! The video proves nothing, just shows how gullible some people are...nothing more, nothing less. If you really want to learn about heavenly bodies then do proper research. I'm sure you have a local astronomy club that would be more then happy to answer any questions you may have, and I strongly suggest you contact them. You may actually learn some factual that you can use.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

Wow, you seem pretty pissed off about something ?
Quoting: MG-42

The doppler effects works by measuring incoming waves. One can use a radar to visually see the doppler effect of radio waves, x rays, pretty much anything that emits energy (not solid particles), BUT the spiral effect has nothing to do with creating spirals in the sky. YOU CANNOT SEE THE WAVES WITH YOUR NAKED EYE, YOU NEED EQUIPMENT!!! Ever hear of a radio observatory? Specialized equipment such as this is needed.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

The link I posted says "most shifts" can not be seem with the naked eye - not all shifts - so I am not sure you are correct. Second, the spirals were blue indicating the star was moving toward us. Third, a brown dwarf or a dark star the spectrum of light it emits might be totally different than a regular star and therefore it' waves could be possibly visible as it moves toward us. Check out this link:

"In other words, the brown dwarf will be blue-shifting in its Doppler effect, whilst making only the smallest lateral transition through the heavens"

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Your partly right...scientist use the doppler effect to show that the universe is expanding...blue means energy waves are coming towards you (from vantage point of earth), red means energy waves are moving away. Gregory Hubble used this to measure the expanding universe and came up with that theory...but again, YOU CANNOT SEE IT WITH THE NAKED EYE! Were talking light spectrum's not visible with the naked eye.
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Here's another good image of it:

Can someone post it in the thread?
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I cant post the actual photo to the thread. I dont have the full membership. But I hope someone that is able to can post this photo . And very good information you have posted so far in your previous replies.

Thank you my friend
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Wow, you seem pretty pissed off about something ?
Quoting: MG-42

The doppler effects works by measuring incoming waves. One can use a radar to visually see the doppler effect of radio waves, x rays, pretty much anything that emits energy (not solid particles), BUT the spiral effect has nothing to do with creating spirals in the sky. YOU CANNOT SEE THE WAVES WITH YOUR NAKED EYE, YOU NEED EQUIPMENT!!! Ever hear of a radio observatory? Specialized equipment such as this is needed.
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You JUST answered your own question why Obama was In Norway during the first spiral.
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lol, your to funny...I guess obama has all the answers now. I guess we should ask him what the REAL answer is. Again, what you put forward as an explanation has nothing to do with the spiral phenomenon. Again...you need special equipment to visually see energy waves in different spectrum's, the spiral phenomenon thus far is unexplained. For all we know it can be an energy weapon.
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I think you are wrong. If the light is in the visible spectrum then we would see it as blue if it were moving toward us. The Doppler effect is just a change int he light spectrum as it moves from or to us. I am not sure if the effect would be to spiral the light, but see for example:

"Within the visible spectrum of light, low-frequency light waves are sensed by humans as being red. High-frequency light waves are seen as blue. Therefore, a redshift will result from light whose source is moving away from an observer. A galaxy, for example, that is moving away from Earth at high velocity may appear red in color. Likewise, an approaching galaxy could look blue if its velocity was within a certain range."

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Wow, you seem pretty pissed off about something ?
Quoting: MG-42

The doppler effects works by measuring incoming waves. One can use a radar to visually see the doppler effect of radio waves, x rays, pretty much anything that emits energy (not solid particles), BUT the spiral effect has nothing to do with creating spirals in the sky. YOU CANNOT SEE THE WAVES WITH YOUR NAKED EYE, YOU NEED EQUIPMENT!!! Ever hear of a radio observatory? Specialized equipment such as this is needed.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

The link I posted says "most shifts" can not be seem with the naked eye - not all shifts - so I am not sure you are correct. Second, the spirals were blue indicating the star was moving toward us. Third, a brown dwarf or a dark star the spectrum of light it emits might be totally different than a regular star and therefore it' waves could be possibly visible as it moves toward us. Check out this link:

"In other words, the brown dwarf will be blue-shifting in its Doppler effect, whilst making only the smallest lateral transition through the heavens"

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1293554

Your partly right...scientist use the doppler effect to show that the universe is expanding...blue means energy waves are coming towards you (from vantage point of earth), red means energy waves are moving away. Gregory Hubble used this to measure the expanding universe and came up with that theory...but again, YOU CANNOT SEE IT WITH THE NAKED EYE! Were talking light spectrum's not visible with the naked eye.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744032

The elites have the technology to view this. Which might be the reason why some of these 'programs' were made. Like I said, Obama was in Norway for a reason.
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

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No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

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03/23/2011 03:16 AM
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Here's some information on how the spiral forms, I really think the OP is on to something:

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Here's some information on how the spiral forms, I really think the OP is on to something:

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This is an excellent link.. Thank you!
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.