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Human toll in pig flu outbreak baffles scientists-Experts worried that germ may have mutated to create deadlier version

 
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Updated: 3:58 p.m. ET Aug. 3, 2005
Experts on a strep germ that’s sickening people and pigs in China are baffled by reports of 37 farmers suddenly falling ill, bleeding under the skin and dying — all previously unheard of with the disease.

While not uncommon in pigs, Streptococcus suis is seldom seen in people and never dozens of cases all at once — raising bigger questions about whether the germ has mixed with some other bacteria or virus.

“Something is different,” Marcelo Gottschalk, one of the world’s leading experts on the disease, told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

We are worried and we wonder what’s happening. We would like to have the strain to identify.”

Gottschalk works in the world’s only reference laboratory for Streptococcus suis at the University of Montreal in Canada and says no one in China has contacted him for help since the outbreak was reported last month.

So few people have studied this disease, he’s unsure how the Chinese have been able to identify it and what type of vaccine they plan to use since immunizations typically are not effective. Chinese state media have reported that enough vaccine for 350,000 pigs has already been sent to Sichuan province from a company in southern Guangdong province and that enough doses for 10 million swine will be shipped later.

More than 200 human cases in China
Gottschalk said Streptococcus suis usually takes a while to develop in people and often causes meningitis followed by partial or permanent hearing loss. Most people also survive after being treated with antibiotics and cases are typically few and far between — Thailand, for example, usually has less than 20 known cases a year, he said. China has reported more than 200 confirmed or suspected human cases since June.

The infected farmers who handled or butchered sick pigs have experienced nausea, fever, vomiting and bleeding under the skin.

The World Health Organization and the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization have questioned whether Streptococcus suis could possibly have combined with some other disease or bacteria in China. One case has also been reported in Guangdong province, hundreds of miles southeast of Sichuan. Hong Kong has reported two infections since the latest outbreak, but Chinese health officials have not announced whether those are connected to the Sichuan cases.

“Why is it behaving differently all of a sudden?” said Juan Lubroth, an animal health official at FAO in Rome. “One explanation is you have additional problems and it’s not just Streptococcus suis that’s causing it.”

Thomas Alexander, retired deputy director of the University of Cambridge’s School of Veterinary Medicine, was a pioneer in studying this particular strep germ. He said the bacteria is commonly found in the tonsils of healthy swine in different parts of the world. However, it sometimes becomes pathogenic when too many pigs are crammed together in unsanitary conditions.

“In my experience, it’s much more chronic. They’re describing death within 24 hours,” he said by telephone from England. “What they’re describing doesn’t fit the picture.”

More information from China needed
The disease is typically spread from pigs to people through cuts or wounds on the hands. Pork that has been thoroughly cooked is not a problem, but eating undercooked or raw meat can infect humans.

Asia has been particularly aware of cross-species infection since 2003 when it fought SARS, which is believed to have first jumped from animals to people in southern China; it eventually killed nearly 800 people worldwide. The region is also currently battling bird flu in which poultry has infected humans, killing at least 60 people since 2003.

China was accused of withholding information about SARS, and WHO has recently said health officials are not sharing enough information about bird flu.

Based on his limited information, Gottschalk said he’s not overly concerned about the pig disease spreading across borders since bacterial diseases tend to change more slowly than viruses like flu. There have been no cases of Streptococcus suis spreading from person to person.

He would, however, like the Chinese to send samples so he can try to identify the strain.

“It’s extremely difficult for us get the real information for Chinese agriculture,” he said. “I’m not really sure if they have all the background necessary to study this bacteria or infection. Few labs in the world are capable of studying this.”

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12/08/2005 10:08 AM
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Why are you reporting this old news? Are you living in a fucking time warp?
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Mutated..!! scream
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12/08/2005 10:08 AM
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To show whats happening earlier this month...
do we hear much on it now?

And... what is happening to address it?

NOTHING!!!!

Did you know about it and what, shrugged it off as no big deal? Like "whatever" huh?

This is going to get serious and real bad REAL soom! SO take notice. They are hushing up and that screams so LOUD!!!!!!!!

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Earth, I´ve been following this kind of thing for a couple of years now -- since H5N1 came on the scene.

We know very little because China will not release information. They covered up SARS for months when that came out. They are being very uncooperative with the bird flu and the seriousness of it near Qinghai.

However, the pig stuff is not as bad as the migration of the H5N1 bird flu. It is now in the Urals and still moving. The big migration time of birds is not even here yet!

Hopefully this turns pandemic and kills quite a few of our stupid race of shit-sack humans...
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Its just...

I hate when there is withholding of info...

This may be serious, yet they wont let us know till the death toll is so high...
or they cant with hold the info any longer.

I have been following this pig flu for awhile... just like Sars or the bird flu...

Back in the day this wasnt an issue, now we have several. And yet? We dont know everything... I feel for the people who get this or any of the other ones because it is something they cannot control, and sometimes is not taken serious so things can be done to maybe avert them before they become too bad...

They arent wanting to get it.

But they have it...
and in this case they bleed from the inside out, something that didnt happen before... somethings wrong... and changing, yet unexplainable...

Do we sweep it and its victims under the rug?

Or do we see it... and try to remedy the situation...

or lock up our mouths and throw away the key, hopeing not to panic anyone, yet its 10 times worse then it is... they just havent confirmed it...

sigh

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On ancient Atlantis, scientists dabbled in genetic engineering creating half human half animal freaks. Edgar Cayce talks about this during many of his trances.

The pig is a remnant of those abhorant experiments. The pig is sickeningly close to humans in many ways. Pig organs are used in many transplants to humans. Pig corneas, pig heart valves, pig skin grafts, pig liver transplants, the list goes on and one ...

So it is no surprise that horrifying diseases are now leaping the species barrier helped along by the half human half animal pig ppig
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12/08/2005 10:08 AM
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88,

Yup, it´s much easier for viruses to adapt to a human who has had a xenographic transplant.
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12/08/2005 10:08 AM
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And Nancy Lieder said 8 years ago viruses would be on the move. And they are.

Hmmm.

Hi Earth, sexy girl!
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Hello 78/68....

More "endtime" viruses on the way, yet some are here....

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