THE TRUTH ABOUT GEIGER COUNTERS.. THEY DONT MEASURE PLUTONIUM & URANIUM RADIATION!!!!!!! | |
Enchanted Wanderer (OP) User ID: 1315646 ![]() 03/27/2011 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() Time for a new reality [link to www.thevenusproject.com] Get A Kit, Make A Plan, Be Prepared. Zombie Apocalypses Do Happen! "whoever forgets his history is condemned to repeat it" “The Sun of Light shines in the Heart as Love.” The Truth of Life descends from the world of Eternal Light {the sun} to illuminate the minds, regenerate the hearts, raise and renew the souls of all the sons of Truth destined to constitute the nucleus of the new humanity - Peter Deunov "Knowledge is the Great Endowment of the Creator that lives within you and allows you to experience & express humanity’s One Spirituality, beyond all divisions of race, culture, nation & religion. Knowledge alone has the power both to guide and protect the individual and to unite and enable humanity to chart a new way forward" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1305196 ![]() 03/27/2011 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know about the absolute uselessness of GM tubes in detecting plutonium. Plutonium alpha particles have an energy of ~5MeV and some of the pancake GM tubes claim detection down to 3MeV. A plutonium particle will produce a very distinctive count spike if it is swept with one of these tubes that will stand out from any other radiation sources. But the article is right about the distance problem. The tubes are fragile, although I don't know about the blade of grass. A stick for sure. Think clingwrap, but brittle. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1305196And says on a forum that the alpha particles lose 0.6 Mev/cm. So have to sweep close. But that is OK for sweeping clothing, or food. Just like in the Japanese footage - most likely they are sweeping for plutonium contamination using GM tubes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199765 ![]() 03/27/2011 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what your background is, but I worked for a while in the radiopharmaceutical business and from the little I know I must say that I have never read a more detailed report that as far as I can tell is 100% spot on. It is a real shame that the first useful information we receive on this issue is from a GLPer in Austrailia, and not the people we pay to look out for us, the damn Government. Thank you for taking the time to help keep us better informed. God Bless. |
Enchanted Wanderer (OP) User ID: 1315646 ![]() 03/27/2011 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() Time for a new reality [link to www.thevenusproject.com] Get A Kit, Make A Plan, Be Prepared. Zombie Apocalypses Do Happen! "whoever forgets his history is condemned to repeat it" “The Sun of Light shines in the Heart as Love.” The Truth of Life descends from the world of Eternal Light {the sun} to illuminate the minds, regenerate the hearts, raise and renew the souls of all the sons of Truth destined to constitute the nucleus of the new humanity - Peter Deunov "Knowledge is the Great Endowment of the Creator that lives within you and allows you to experience & express humanity’s One Spirituality, beyond all divisions of race, culture, nation & religion. Knowledge alone has the power both to guide and protect the individual and to unite and enable humanity to chart a new way forward" |
Enchanted Wanderer (OP) User ID: 1315646 ![]() 03/27/2011 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what your background is, but I worked for a while in the radiopharmaceutical business and from the little I know I must say that I have never read a more detailed report that as far as I can tell is 100% spot on. It is a real shame that the first useful information we receive on this issue is from a GLPer in Austrailia, and not the people we pay to look out for us, the damn Government. Quoting: Black KnightThank you for taking the time to help keep us better informed. God Bless. Thankyou for the cudos. however Im nothing special.. The guys on that site did all the work.. i am just a concerned resident of earth.. ive been searching all night for information on all levels that is not BS regarding this radiation.. Counters are offline all over the usa.. the japanese government is lying is freaking ass off.. its all just gone to shit and no one in any official capacity seems to be doing a damn thing about it.. why the hell isnt the usa or the un sending in the experts to take over from these incompentant fools in japan.. I watched a video where he said they didnt know why the water was contaminated.. WTF.. IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW THE HELL ARE YOU ALLOWED TO RUN A NUCLEAR FACILITY.. its all just too much .. i just hope this info helps people.. Time for a new reality [link to www.thevenusproject.com] Get A Kit, Make A Plan, Be Prepared. Zombie Apocalypses Do Happen! "whoever forgets his history is condemned to repeat it" “The Sun of Light shines in the Heart as Love.” The Truth of Life descends from the world of Eternal Light {the sun} to illuminate the minds, regenerate the hearts, raise and renew the souls of all the sons of Truth destined to constitute the nucleus of the new humanity - Peter Deunov "Knowledge is the Great Endowment of the Creator that lives within you and allows you to experience & express humanity’s One Spirituality, beyond all divisions of race, culture, nation & religion. Knowledge alone has the power both to guide and protect the individual and to unite and enable humanity to chart a new way forward" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1316411 ![]() 03/27/2011 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take note folks, the invisible threat can only be verified by government experts who have the right equipment! They will keep us informed via our media. Although the counter you bought will show NO RADIATION (as if there were no threat at all above background level), you can rely on & trust your media to keep you informed & safe until the danger passes. Thank God for the government scientists & media, or we'd all be fucked! Wouldn't' we. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199765 ![]() 03/27/2011 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take note folks, the invisible threat can only be verified by government experts who have the right equipment! They will keep us informed via our media. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316411Although the counter you bought will show NO RADIATION (as if there were no threat at all above background level), you can rely on & trust your media to keep you informed & safe until the danger passes. Thank God for the government scientists & media, or we'd all be fucked! Wouldn't' we. What a line of crap - who is this Prince Chuckie? |
Enchanted Wanderer (OP) User ID: 1315646 ![]() 03/27/2011 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() Time for a new reality [link to www.thevenusproject.com] Get A Kit, Make A Plan, Be Prepared. Zombie Apocalypses Do Happen! "whoever forgets his history is condemned to repeat it" “The Sun of Light shines in the Heart as Love.” The Truth of Life descends from the world of Eternal Light {the sun} to illuminate the minds, regenerate the hearts, raise and renew the souls of all the sons of Truth destined to constitute the nucleus of the new humanity - Peter Deunov "Knowledge is the Great Endowment of the Creator that lives within you and allows you to experience & express humanity’s One Spirituality, beyond all divisions of race, culture, nation & religion. Knowledge alone has the power both to guide and protect the individual and to unite and enable humanity to chart a new way forward" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 979114 ![]() 03/27/2011 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know what your background is, but I worked for a while in the radiopharmaceutical business and from the little I know I must say that I have never read a more detailed report that as far as I can tell is 100% spot on. It is a real shame that the first useful information we receive on this issue is from a GLPer in Austrailia, and not the people we pay to look out for us, the damn Government. Quoting: Black KnightThank you for taking the time to help keep us better informed. God Bless. Thankyou for the cudos. however Im nothing special.. The guys on that site did all the work.. i am just a concerned resident of earth.. ive been searching all night for information on all levels that is not BS regarding this radiation.. Counters are offline all over the usa.. the japanese government is lying is freaking ass off.. its all just gone to shit and no one in any official capacity seems to be doing a damn thing about it.. why the hell isnt the usa or the un sending in the experts to take over from these incompentant fools in japan.. I watched a video where he said they didnt know why the water was contaminated.. WTF.. IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW THE HELL ARE YOU ALLOWED TO RUN A NUCLEAR FACILITY.. its all just too much .. i just hope this info helps people.. Thanks, OP. I suspected as much that geiger counters would be limited in what they detect. So, we rely on our gov't which are composed of a bunch of cowardly, stinking liars to protect us -- we are doomed in all likelihood. |
Enchanted Wanderer (OP) User ID: 1315646 ![]() 03/27/2011 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can we get a pin for this please.. its vital information.. Time for a new reality [link to www.thevenusproject.com] Get A Kit, Make A Plan, Be Prepared. Zombie Apocalypses Do Happen! "whoever forgets his history is condemned to repeat it" “The Sun of Light shines in the Heart as Love.” The Truth of Life descends from the world of Eternal Light {the sun} to illuminate the minds, regenerate the hearts, raise and renew the souls of all the sons of Truth destined to constitute the nucleus of the new humanity - Peter Deunov "Knowledge is the Great Endowment of the Creator that lives within you and allows you to experience & express humanity’s One Spirituality, beyond all divisions of race, culture, nation & religion. Knowledge alone has the power both to guide and protect the individual and to unite and enable humanity to chart a new way forward" |
Enchanted Wanderer (OP) User ID: 1315646 ![]() 03/27/2011 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() Time for a new reality [link to www.thevenusproject.com] Get A Kit, Make A Plan, Be Prepared. Zombie Apocalypses Do Happen! "whoever forgets his history is condemned to repeat it" “The Sun of Light shines in the Heart as Love.” The Truth of Life descends from the world of Eternal Light {the sun} to illuminate the minds, regenerate the hearts, raise and renew the souls of all the sons of Truth destined to constitute the nucleus of the new humanity - Peter Deunov "Knowledge is the Great Endowment of the Creator that lives within you and allows you to experience & express humanity’s One Spirituality, beyond all divisions of race, culture, nation & religion. Knowledge alone has the power both to guide and protect the individual and to unite and enable humanity to chart a new way forward" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1316407 ![]() 03/27/2011 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know how accurate that all is. When I went to School the instructor brought a big lead container up in front of the class which contained Plutonium (the good stuff) and we turned our Geiger Counters on. Then when he raised the lid slightly the things would start clacking (I was in the back of the room Thank God because they don't warn you or give the opportunity to opt out, they just radiate your ass, and I bet that idiot instructor is dead by now, lol) and as the lid raises higher the counters would get louder. We went through numerous methods for detecting radiation from different sources. Unfortunately all the Schools I went were Highly Classified and I therefore can't provide anything I learned there based on source to validate what I am saying nor to repudiate any of the self appointed experts (reporters) coming up with all kinds of ignorant interpretations of information and not being able to differentiate old outdated data from current simply adds to their ignorance. They "think" they are smart and people who don't know better accept what they are saying but most of what we are getting from the media is idiocy based on ignorance, |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1316605 ![]() 03/27/2011 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Civil Defence" models distributed during the Cold War are unlikely to be any use. We have seen adverts for the CDV-715, for example, which has a range with the bottom end starting at 0.01 Roentgens per hour. Natural background radiation should be in the range 0.01 milliRoentgens per hour down to 0.005 milliRoentgens per hour (1 milliRoentgen being one thousandth of a Roentgen). In other words the CDV-715 is 1000 times too insensitive to pick up even the highest likely value of natural background. The article is assuming that you don't need a CDV-715 ONLY because you are measuring NORMAL BACKGROUND LEVELS where you are and these won't register. If you are in a place like Los Angeles we are getting slammed with gamma from the FUK plants right now. If you can definitely pick up a CDV-715, you will see it for yourself! I can assure you I have a CDV-715 and IT IS REGISTERING in Los Angeles. In fact right now it reads .8 roentgens per hour. A roentgen is equivalent in effect to a rad. NOT GOOD. But not surprising considering as more and more info comes out from TEPCO in dribs and drabs we are SLOWLY being alerted to the serious of the situation. I agree and I have tried to tell people a regular geiger counter is useless in a situation like this. The only affordable detectors for these high levels of rad that the public can purchase is something like the CDV-715. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1298853 ![]() 03/28/2011 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the CDV 700 is a true beta/gamma geiger counter, made in the 1960s. Some models like the anton and lionel had small check source samples attacked to the frame of the unit, normally depleted uranium, to do a calibration and check on the instrument. ebay sells many of these, of course now for a ridiculous price. I bought mine a few years back for 22 dollars, and it has been calibrated, and does work against various ore samples. I have a few samples of uranium/Americum 238..and it reads in the 2000,3000 cpm on most samples i have. if you have the money, a digital Gamma scout, or CRM 100 is ideal. They detech alpha/beta/gamma/ and even xray |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317986 ![]() 03/28/2011 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a CDV 715 is a ion chamber radiation detector, for extremely high levels. It is useless for 99% of people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298853the CDV 700 is a true beta/gamma geiger counter, made in the 1960s. Some models like the anton and lionel had small check source samples attacked to the frame of the unit, normally depleted uranium, to do a calibration and check on the instrument. ebay sells many of these, of course now for a ridiculous price. I bought mine a few years back for 22 dollars, and it has been calibrated, and does work against various ore samples. I have a few samples of uranium/Americum 238..and it reads in the 2000,3000 cpm on most samples i have. if you have the money, a digital Gamma scout, or CRM 100 is ideal. They detech alpha/beta/gamma/ and even xray Keep in mind the CDV-700 has limitations. The CD V-700 measures gamma radiation up to 50 milliroentgens per hour. So it maxes out at 50 MILLIREMS. Here in Los Angeles I am currently reading 1 ROENTGEN per hour. If you are in Los Angeles or Oregon or Washington I recommend purchasing the CDV-715 unit also. Since they are both affordable it's a good idea to own both the CDV-700 and 715. I think you should have the option of knowing IF you are being exposed to very high levels without being told. The CDV-715 is the only affordable way to do that. But definitely get both, hopefully you are not in a high rad area. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1180281 ![]() 03/28/2011 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Although the article raises some good points, you can detect some of the decay products of plutonium & uranium. See, they form what's called a decay chain, ultimately ending in lead, but with some nasty radioactive elements of various types in between. Many of those intermediary elements are beta & gamma emitters, which can be detected with a standard GM tube. Don't be fooled by half-lives measuring tens of thousands of years, etc. That's actually quite a lot of activity if the sample is large enough. |
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