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Elenin/Planet X Caught On Video by 5T4RSCREAM

 
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Another idiot posting another idiotic video. So you go outside, point your camera at a random star/planet, then claim its anomalous along with any stars/planets surrounding it? Pathetic.
 Quoting: Charlie Frost

No. Astrolpatriot has been tracking these objects since long before anyone supposedly discovered the ELEnin Comet. Astrol's images are not at the exact ELEnin location, but they are very close and on a similar orbit/flight path. I am privy to images of these objects that are never posted on the internet and realized that the Starscream images are very near the same as Astrol has been showing us. That is why I posted the two videos in the OP to allow everyone the opportunity to offer their advocating or opposing views one way or the other.
 Quoting: Terral

OP, are you stating your hypothesis as comet Elenin is a comet passing through or riding in the gravity well of another much larger object around which there appears to be orbiting objects?
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The flight through the asteroid belt continues!

At the moment, the comet is just getting to the area of maximum concentration of Main Belt asteroids, but already now, with the help of the program ArtemisSIMULATOR, we can find several close approaches over the course of 3-4 days. All the approaches are calculated on the basis of a nominal orbit.

Thus, March 31, Comet Elenin passes 1,366,500 km (0.009 AU) from asteroid 2001 SC155. On the same day, nearby, at a distance of 1,255,000 km (0.084 AU) and 1,365,500 km (0.009 AU) it encounters another two asteroids – 2005 NF30 and 2007 FR10 respectively. The closest approach will be April 2 – the comet and asteroid 2001 WA49 will pass by each other at only 335,500 km, which works out to 0.87 LD (the average distance from the Earth to the moon)! Unfortunately, it will only be possible to see the close passage in images taken by the largest telescopes. The brightness of asteroid 2001 WA49 will be 21m.
[link to spaceobs.org]
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"dwarf star" why didn't you make it a small black hole? would have been better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328339

Astrolpatriot has been tracking this series of objects for a long time and can only see the orbiting satellites orbiting what he characterizes as a black blob. We know that something is hidden inside the space around which these satellites are orbiting, but there is simply no way yet of knowing exactly what is hidden inside what appears to be a super-cold proton cloud.

The proximity of the orbiting satellites seems to indicate that we are looking at a high-density star that is something near brown dwarf star classification, as your mini-black hole would have likely swallowed up these orbiting objects during the time frame that Astrolpatriot has been tracking them. Astrol's theory is that rather than gravitational orbits, these satellites/asteroids have been gathered over the eons by magnetic attraction being iron-based objects orbiting a highly-magnetized star. In fact, the majority in the group believes we are looking at a binary star twin to our own Sun, which I personally do not believe for one minute; but we are wise to hear all interpretations of the evidence.
 Quoting: Terral


You don't even know what your talking about really from reading a few of your posts.

Its posts like these that turn this whole subject into a joke thats best left on the BS pile.

PS 2-3 of the objects in starscreams youtube are infact pointed out on other forums to be Pluto, neptune and Uranus.
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"dwarf star" why didn't you make it a small black hole? would have been better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328339

Astrolpatriot has been tracking this series of objects for a long time and can only see the orbiting satellites orbiting what he characterizes as a black blob. We know that something is hidden inside the space around which these satellites are orbiting, but there is simply no way yet of knowing exactly what is hidden inside what appears to be a super-cold proton cloud.

The proximity of the orbiting satellites seems to indicate that we are looking at a high-density star that is something near brown dwarf star classification, as your mini-black hole would have likely swallowed up these orbiting objects during the time frame that Astrolpatriot has been tracking them. Astrol's theory is that rather than gravitational orbits, these satellites/asteroids have been gathered over the eons by magnetic attraction being iron-based objects orbiting a highly-magnetized star. In fact, the majority in the group believes we are looking at a binary star twin to our own Sun, which I personally do not believe for one minute; but we are wise to hear all interpretations of the evidence.
 Quoting: Terral


You don't even know what your talking about really from reading a few of your posts.

Its posts like these that turn this whole subject into a joke thats best left on the BS pile.

PS 2-3 of the objects in starscreams youtube are infact pointed out on other forums to be Pluto, neptune and Uranus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1063055


Link please
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Lookit, it's obvious Terral and I disagree. Whatever. But it's not personal. It's not. BUT you guys frequently call us "debunkers" out in threads, particularly astronut (see above quoted post) MEANWHILE, your boy Terral: he changed dates. I wonder if we hadn't spotted it if he would've ever brought it up at all. To be fair...who knows.
 Quoting: "...Sing, I'll sway.

This is the last time I address this 'changed dates' issue: The Dwarf Star Event Timeline Thread: Nibiru/Planet X Event Timeline is not a list of predictions. I am running an ELEnin Comet INVESTIGATION that includes this 'event timeline' that places events in their chronological order. If you go back to February of 2011, then we had warnings coming out about March 15, 2011 from everywhere. I took the ELEnin orbit data [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] and moved the dates ahead to locate a March 15, 2011 ELEnin alignment. I WAS WRONG. We had videos coming out before March 11, 2011 like this one [link to www.youtube.com] pointing to March 11, 2011 that used the same ELEnin JPL orbit data, but that is not all:

[link to scienceray.com]

[link to cavingnews.com]

[link to droughtmonitor.blogspot.com]

I failed to make the 'aquifer shift' connection that only became clear after the Japan Quake had already taken place on March 11, 2011. I did not realize that the aquifers from Texas to Florida also shifted with the Earth axis shifting 4 inches on March 11, 2011 'and' only then did I become aware of the fact that we had the same aquifer shifts on February 27, 2010 with the Chile Quake.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Mike demonstrates the connection between the Feb. 27, 2010, Sept. 4, 2010 and March 11, 2011 major earthquakes in Chile, Christchurch and Japan in the above video. Once my investigation turned up the new evidence, THEN I was able to make the 2/27/2010 - March 11, 2011 connection that Earth had passed through the gravity trough connecting the dwarf star gravity well and the Sun gravity well together. The Earth has the same magnetic portal connections to the Sun [link to science.nasa.gov] as the approaching dwarf star. Once I realized that my timeline was off by 4 days (3/15), THEN I went back to make the correction to the timeline Thread: Nibiru/Planet X Event Timeline (Page 35) . Again, if anybody here can show me reason to change anything in the event timeline using 'evidence,' then I must make the required changes to keep this investigation on the right track. This is how a real investigation works and I actually hope to be dead wrong about the whole ELEnin = dwarf star theory anyway ...
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Elenin cannot be a "dwarf star." The theory falls apart just based on the fact that elenin is incredibly dim while a "dwarf star" at that distance would be one of the brightest objects in the night sky:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: Astronut


Astrolpatriot did say Elenin, and other entities were orbiting this object you claim is "Aldebaran". How can a Comet this close to Earth orbit a distant star? It does not make any sense.
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Question

Is it true that the comet C/2002 V1 (NEAT) is almost twice the size of jupter?? i saw a video where Nassim Haramein said that nasa was worried about this comet because they thought it gonna hit the sun. quote: they thought we were toast. He also said that the tail of the comet was nearly 1 AU long.

The problem with these statements in the ambiguity of the word “size”. Comets are near vacuums. They have been called the nearest thing to nothing that is still something. The largest comet has a mass a factor of a trillion less than the mass of Jupiter. With such a tiny mass its gravity would not be felt by any of the planets or satellites. The tail of a comet is even more tenuous. So someone may have said a comet is larger than Jupiter, just for dramatic effect, but to add that if it hit the Sun “we were all toast” is irresponsible. Sometimes people get carried away and use language to misinform, rather than to inform.

David Morrison
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328339


Oh no! Boring facts rather than hysterical misrepresentations! You must be one of those "shills" we hear so much about!

Heh.
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Link please
 Quoting: Frankenstein

Until you demand the same level of proof and science to support his claims, you are irrelevant.
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Here's astrometry of the photo from starscream's video (at least he, unlike astrolpatriot, does not seem to be lying about where he's searching and what equipment he owns):
[link to flickr.com]
The star he was looking at was Aldebaran.
 Quoting: Astronut


bump for truth ^^^^^
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Here's astrometry of the photo from starscream's video (at least he, unlike astrolpatriot, does not seem to be lying about where he's searching and what equipment he owns):
[link to flickr.com]
The star he was looking at was Aldebaran.
 Quoting: Astronut


bump for truth ^^^^^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328339


Which one is Nibiru?? :)
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Sounds convincing gazDick... lets see your proof
 Quoting: Frankenstein

Let's see you actually post something of intelligence. You can't, can you?

It doesn't matter to you guys that a "brown dwarf" within 2 AU of the inner solar system would be highly visible, does it? It doesn't matter to you that a "brown dwarf" coming anywhere near the inner solar system would affect the orbits of the outer planets long before it comes anywhere Earth, but no such perturbations exist, does it?

But, Terral can toss out made-up terms like "gravity troughs" and you eagerly swallow it like cum from his dick.

He, nor you, show absolutely any sign of a basic knowledge of physics.
 Quoting: Gazmik


So what? Then enlighten us with your knowledge and understanding with some proof material to demonstrate you're right and OP is wrong?

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"dwarf star" why didn't you make it a small black hole? would have been better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328339

Astrolpatriot has been tracking this series of objects for a long time and can only see the orbiting satellites orbiting what he characterizes as a black blob. We know that something is hidden inside the space around which these satellites are orbiting, but there is simply no way yet of knowing exactly what is hidden inside what appears to be a super-cold proton cloud.

The proximity of the orbiting satellites seems to indicate that we are looking at a high-density star that is something near brown dwarf star classification, as your mini-black hole would have likely swallowed up these orbiting objects during the time frame that Astrolpatriot has been tracking them. Astrol's theory is that rather than gravitational orbits, these satellites/asteroids have been gathered over the eons by magnetic attraction being iron-based objects orbiting a highly-magnetized star. In fact, the majority in the group believes we are looking at a binary star twin to our own Sun, which I personally do not believe for one minute; but we are wise to hear all interpretations of the evidence.
 Quoting: Terral


You don't even know what your talking about really from reading a few of your posts.

Its posts like these that turn this whole subject into a joke thats best left on the BS pile.

PS 2-3 of the objects in starscreams youtube are infact pointed out on other forums to be Pluto, neptune and Uranus.
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Link please
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ok got two right Uranus was Eris
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They can't keep this quiet much longer. Every amateur astronomer is gonna see this soon.

hiding
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The goal is to keep it quiet as long as possible right up until the moment of disaster. I think gov'ts around the world will collude to lie about different objects once they are discovered...
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Just asking, are these comets going to get much closer than past well known comets? How do Honda and Elenin compare in size to other well known comets, and lastly, what makes these comets (Elenin in particular) so much more capable of causing catastrophic effects? Inquiring minds wanna know!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198669

The point about this ELEnin Comet is it AIN'T NO COMET. The evidence seems to indicate that ELEnin Comet Is A NASA Psyop Cover For An Inbound Dwarf Star Thread: Comet ELEnin Is A NASA Psyop Cover For Incoming Brown Dwarf . If this ELEnin object was just a comet, then we would have nothing to worry about. Maybe you have noticed that we have global warming and increased earthquakes, volcanoes, rogue tides, sinking islands, magnetic pole migration, mass animal deaths and the list goes on [link to rabbithole2.com] . Well, none of those things are caused by the approach of any comet, but all are caused by the approach of a dwarf star. Maybe you have noticed that the US Govt is looking for reasons to shut down. [link to www.csmonitor.com] The evidence seems to indicate that the corrupt Govt officials found out about these dwarf star 2011 events on March 13, 2008 at the famous secret meeting: [link to dprogram.net] Everyone from the corrupt Congress to the privately-owned Fed knows that the ponzi scheme only has to play out for a few more months and they can all head for their underground bunkers to ride out the coming storm.

I realize these comets are arriving at convenient times and match prophesies by Indian, Maya, cultures but I cant wrap my head around what makes these comets that much more deadly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198669

Comets are not threat to anyone, so long as we have no impacts/collisions. However, a dwarf star entering for an orbit around our Sun during a summer perigee orbit means a geological pole shift is in the cards, which can terraform this entire planet to look more like this [link to 4.bp.blogspot.com] .
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i thought terral was hiding in the mountains from 15th march.

didnt he say the world would go downhill fast after that day?
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The next alignment is September 26, 2011 with the geological pole shift Thread: Nibiru/Planet X Event Timeline . We are seeing a gradual escalation of earth change events until the pole shift. I expect things to really ramp up starting the middle of August, when this dwarf star becomes visible to the naked eye.
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We believe NASA is lying about Elenin. Elenin is actually a brown dwarf star.
 Quoting: Khazaq

We agree 100 percent! One of the biggest problems I have in discussing this topic with other informed people is they want to completely discount the NASA JPL orbit data for the ELEnin object [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] . In fact, we have a troll/shill/idiot with admin authority at astrol's astronomy chat that is found of bouncing me for advocating the JPL thesis saying NASA is tracking the gravity well of this inbound dwarf star. They want to just toss the entire JPL program into the garbage and base their theories on nothing and the troll professes not to even have a theory of his own. The science says that Earth aquifers shifted with Earth axis and major earthquake events on 2/27/2010 and 3/11/2011 with the Chile and Japan Quakes that both took place on Sun/Earth/ELENin alignments. That tells me something BIG is being tracked by NASA that has great mass that is sufficient to cause these events even while orbiting below the ecliptic plane. [link to i29.photobucket.com] I see no way for these events to take place at ELEnin alignments, unless that object has GREAT mass 'and' (most importantly) is using the ELEnin Comet JPL orbit/flight path. I will continue using the JPL data for this inbound object, until at some point the data is proven wrong. So far everything is right on schedule with this inbound object for a September 26, 2011 pole shift event, which of course I hope does not happen. We do have a test coming up for our theory on July 7, 2011, when this ELEnin object passes between the Sun and Saturn [link to www.usmessageboard.com] .

Saturn Alignment Pic: [link to i29.photobucket.com]

This ELEnin object will pass through the magnetic portal connections [link to science.nasa.gov] running between the Sun and Saturn and we may see the rings tip backwards, when the dwarf star seeks to gain polarity control. While I do not expect this dwarf star to wrestle Saturn polarity control from the Sun on July 7, 2011 at that alignment, perhaps we will see some sign of gravity perturbations in Saturn's rings.
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Sounds convincing gazDick... lets see your proof
 Quoting: Frankenstein

Let's see you actually post something of intelligence. You can't, can you?

It doesn't matter to you guys that a "brown dwarf" within 2 AU of the inner solar system would be highly visible, does it? It doesn't matter to you that a "brown dwarf" coming anywhere near the inner solar system would affect the orbits of the outer planets long before it comes anywhere Earth, but no such perturbations exist, does it?

But, Terral can toss out made-up terms like "gravity troughs" and you eagerly swallow it like cum from his dick.

He, nor you, show absolutely any sign of a basic knowledge of physics.
 Quoting: Gazmik


Gazmik, just because they resort to calling other people
bullshit names doesn't mean you should.

Many people do not understand the basics of physics.
However the fact of even the most rudimentary of physics
indicate that a Brown Dwarf WOULD affect the outer planets/moons...etc.

So, what do we have here?

The OP's name is Terral, yet identifies the videos as
made by "astronomers" so why the same name, but effort to appear different than the video uploader?

2nd, Terral03 debunked his own video.

If it is so visible, how is it that only 2 "astronomers" see it?

What is the answer to this?

Is it possible it isn't a brown dwarf?
If so what could these be?
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i thought terral was hiding in the mountains from 15th march.

didnt he say the world would go downhill fast after that day?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328577

The next alignment is September 26, 2011 with the geological pole shift Thread: Nibiru/Planet X Event Timeline . We are seeing a gradual escalation of earth change events until the pole shift. I expect things to really ramp up starting the middle of August, when this dwarf star becomes visible to the naked eye.
 Quoting: Terral


And what will you do when nothing happens, and no "dwarf star" becomes visible to naked eye?

I'm sure you'll slink away to some dark corner and pout, like the typical little woo woo dumbass bitch you are.
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i thought terral was hiding in the mountains from 15th march.

didnt he say the world would go downhill fast after that day?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328577

The next alignment is September 26, 2011 with the geological pole shift Thread: Nibiru/Planet X Event Timeline . We are seeing a gradual escalation of earth change events until the pole shift. I expect things to really ramp up starting the middle of August, when this dwarf star becomes visible to the naked eye.
 Quoting: Terral


Thanks Terral. Right or wrong you have clearly down a lot of work on the topic.

Time will tell.


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We believe NASA is lying about Elenin. Elenin is actually a brown dwarf star.
 Quoting: Khazaq

We agree 100 percent! One of the biggest problems I have in discussing this topic with other informed people is they want to completely discount the NASA JPL orbit data for the ELEnin object [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] . In fact, we have a troll/shill/idiot with admin authority at astrol's astronomy chat that is found of bouncing me for advocating the JPL thesis saying NASA is tracking the gravity well of this inbound dwarf star. They want to just toss the entire JPL program into the garbage and base their theories on nothing and the troll professes not to even have a theory of his own. The science says that Earth aquifers shifted with Earth axis and major earthquake events on 2/27/2010 and 3/11/2011 with the Chile and Japan Quakes that both took place on Sun/Earth/ELENin alignments. That tells me something BIG is being tracked by NASA that has great mass that is sufficient to cause these events even while orbiting below the ecliptic plane. [link to i29.photobucket.com] I see no way for these events to take place at ELEnin alignments, unless that object has GREAT mass 'and' (most importantly) is using the ELEnin Comet JPL orbit/flight path. I will continue using the JPL data for this inbound object, until at some point the data is proven wrong. So far everything is right on schedule with this inbound object for a September 26, 2011 pole shift event, which of course I hope does not happen. We do have a test coming up for our theory on July 7, 2011, when this ELEnin object passes between the Sun and Saturn [link to www.usmessageboard.com] .

Saturn Alignment Pic: [link to i29.photobucket.com]

This ELEnin object will pass through the magnetic portal connections [link to science.nasa.gov] running between the Sun and Saturn and we may see the rings tip backwards, when the dwarf star seeks to gain polarity control. While I do not expect this dwarf star to wrestle Saturn polarity control from the Sun on July 7, 2011 at that alignment, perhaps we will see some sign of gravity perturbations in Saturn's rings.
 Quoting: Terral


Terral the mass of the comet is way too small to do anything... The quakes was linked to the sun we all know what took place just hours before the quake hit japan and i will bet the other quakes was connected to what happened on the sun in fact i recall the chili quake just hours before that a filiment on the sun snapped..
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Terral...your Earth changes are happening...check it out...

In the last 30 days we have had 66 magnitude 6 to 6.9 EQ..This is an increase of almost 600% compared to an average month...We have also had 525 magnitude 5.0 to 5.9 EQ in the same period...450% increase...

Thread: Now do you believe me? We are over 500% above normal for Earthquakes in the last 30 days...
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Don't mean to debunk your theory but..
If we had a brown dwarf as close as Jupiter let's say, it would be visible even though itis cold and emits no light whatsoever.

Just like Uranus or Neptune or Jupiter are no starts but are visible.

Meaning that the dust cloud enveloping the brown dwarf would reflect a lot of sunlight.

Don't you agree?
 Quoting: Levski

If what you are saying had any substance of truth, the Elite plan to build and hide inside underground bunkers would never work in million years. LUCUS explains why this dwarf star is currently invisible in the first video in this USMB post: [link to www.usmessageboard.com]

Astrolpatriot is convinced this inbound high-density dwarf star will not become visible even when passing between the Sun and Earth. I am no astronomer, but my view is that eventually this object will become exposed sufficiently to the solar winds at Mercury orbit and our solar system will appear to have two suns later this summer into the fall. We know that something is visible, because Astrol has shown us those images in the OP video.
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If this ELEnin object was just a comet, then we would have nothing to worry about. Maybe you have noticed that we have global warming and increased earthquakes, volcanoes, rogue tides, sinking islands, magnetic pole migration, mass animal deaths and the list goes on [link to rabbithole2.com] . Well, none of those things are caused by the approach of any comet, but all are caused by the approach of a dwarf star.
 Quoting: Terral

Complete and utter trash! There is no causal connection between any of the events you stated and any imaginary "brown dwarf" that if one did exist where you claim it did would be as visible as the nose on your face, and you have absolutely zero proof of any such claimed connection.

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If this ELEnin object was just a comet, then we would have nothing to worry about. Maybe you have noticed that we have global warming and increased earthquakes, volcanoes, rogue tides, sinking islands, magnetic pole migration, mass animal deaths and the list goes on [link to rabbithole2.com] . Well, none of those things are caused by the approach of any comet, but all are caused by the approach of a dwarf star.
 Quoting: Terral

Complete and utter trash! There is no causal connection between any of the events you stated and any imaginary "brown dwarf" that if one did exist where you claim it did would be as visible as the nose on your face, and you have absolutely zero proof of any such claimed connection.
 Quoting: Gazmik


you know, I would agree with you...but I have never seen a brown dwarf personally, so I cant say who is right...
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Re: Elenin/Planet X Caught On Video by 5T4RSCREAM
We believe NASA is lying about Elenin. Elenin is actually a brown dwarf star.
 Quoting: Khazaq

We agree 100 percent! One of the biggest problems I have in discussing this topic with other informed people is they want to completely discount the NASA JPL orbit data for the ELEnin object [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] . In fact, we have a troll/shill/idiot with admin authority at astrol's astronomy chat that is found of bouncing me for advocating the JPL thesis saying NASA is tracking the gravity well of this inbound dwarf star. They want to just toss the entire JPL program into the garbage and base their theories on nothing and the troll professes not to even have a theory of his own. The science says that Earth aquifers shifted with Earth axis and major earthquake events on 2/27/2010 and 3/11/2011 with the Chile and Japan Quakes that both took place on Sun/Earth/ELENin alignments. That tells me something BIG is being tracked by NASA that has great mass that is sufficient to cause these events even while orbiting below the ecliptic plane. [link to i29.photobucket.com] I see no way for these events to take place at ELEnin alignments, unless that object has GREAT mass 'and' (most importantly) is using the ELEnin Comet JPL orbit/flight path. I will continue using the JPL data for this inbound object, until at some point the data is proven wrong. So far everything is right on schedule with this inbound object for a September 26, 2011 pole shift event, which of course I hope does not happen. We do have a test coming up for our theory on July 7, 2011, when this ELEnin object passes between the Sun and Saturn [link to www.usmessageboard.com] . [link to i29.photobucket.com]

Saturn Alignment Pic:

This ELEnin object will pass through the magnetic portal connections [link to science.nasa.gov] running between the Sun and Saturn and we may see the rings tip backwards, when the dwarf star seeks to gain polarity control. While I do not expect this dwarf star to wrestle Saturn polarity control from the Sun on July 7, 2011 at that alignment, perhaps we will see some sign of gravity perturbations in Saturn's rings.
 Quoting: Terral




Are you trying to say that because certain EQ's correlate to the position of the comet: you claim that a very big brown dwarf is coming closer and closer to Earth?

How does this brown dwarf "hide" from view?
Measurements and tools?


Why is this not a comet?
Why is this a psyop to hide the brown dwarf?
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Re: Elenin/Planet X Caught On Video by 5T4RSCREAM
They can't keep this quiet much longer. Every amateur astronomer is gonna see this soon.

hiding
 Quoting: MAF_UK



The goal is to keep it quiet as long as possible right up until the moment of disaster. I think gov'ts around the world will collude to lie about different objects once they are discovered...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1158127


And the thousands of amateur astronomers who would give their eye teeth to reveal anything accurate before the others.
They're all colluding too.
Even those guys who declared about Apophis less than 10 years ago, "It is going to strike the Earth!!!!"
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Re: Elenin/Planet X Caught On Video by 5T4RSCREAM
Let's see you actually post something of intelligence. You can't, can you?

It doesn't matter to you guys that a "brown dwarf" within 2 AU of the inner solar system would be highly visible, does it? It doesn't matter to you that a "brown dwarf" coming anywhere near the inner solar system would affect the orbits of the outer planets long before it comes anywhere Earth, but no such perturbations exist, does it?

But, Terral can toss out made-up terms like "gravity troughs" and you eagerly swallow it like cum from his dick.

He, nor you, show absolutely any sign of a basic knowledge of physics.
 Quoting: Gazmik


Valid points,...

But who knows how a brown dwarf that is a periodic part of the solar system would react on its journey?

How could you possibly have data on an imaginary object to know yea or nay???


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Re: Elenin/Planet X Caught On Video by 5T4RSCREAM
We believe NASA is lying about Elenin. Elenin is actually a brown dwarf star.
 Quoting: Khazaq

We agree 100 percent! One of the biggest problems I have in discussing this topic with other informed people is they want to completely discount the NASA JPL orbit data for the ELEnin object [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] . In fact, we have a troll/shill/idiot with admin authority at astrol's astronomy chat that is found of bouncing me for advocating the JPL thesis saying NASA is tracking the gravity well of this inbound dwarf star. They want to just toss the entire JPL program into the garbage and base their theories on nothing and the troll professes not to even have a theory of his own. The science says that Earth aquifers shifted with Earth axis and major earthquake events on 2/27/2010 and 3/11/2011 with the Chile and Japan Quakes that both took place on Sun/Earth/ELENin alignments. That tells me something BIG is being tracked by NASA that has great mass that is sufficient to cause these events even while orbiting below the ecliptic plane. [link to i29.photobucket.com] I see no way for these events to take place at ELEnin alignments, unless that object has GREAT mass 'and' (most importantly) is using the ELEnin Comet JPL orbit/flight path. I will continue using the JPL data for this inbound object, until at some point the data is proven wrong. So far everything is right on schedule with this inbound object for a September 26, 2011 pole shift event, which of course I hope does not happen. We do have a test coming up for our theory on July 7, 2011, when this ELEnin object passes between the Sun and Saturn [link to www.usmessageboard.com] . [link to i29.photobucket.com]

Saturn Alignment Pic:

This ELEnin object will pass through the magnetic portal connections [link to science.nasa.gov] running between the Sun and Saturn and we may see the rings tip backwards, when the dwarf star seeks to gain polarity control. While I do not expect this dwarf star to wrestle Saturn polarity control from the Sun on July 7, 2011 at that alignment, perhaps we will see some sign of gravity perturbations in Saturn's rings.
 Quoting: Terral




Are you trying to say that because certain EQ's correlate to the position of the comet: you claim that a very big brown dwarf is coming closer and closer to Earth?

How does this brown dwarf "hide" from view?
Measurements and tools?


Why is this not a comet?
Why is this a psyop to hide the brown dwarf?
 Quoting: SelflessnHumble


I know the OP and the premise is wrong, but it is past time for at least a few definitions.
A brown dwarf is a sub-stellar object not massive enough to ever fuse hydrogen into helium and is less than about 0.08 solar masses.
Means it has less mass than even a comet, and the mass of a comet I have discussed earlier in this thread.
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Re: Elenin/Planet X Caught On Video by 5T4RSCREAM
Lookit, it's obvious Terral and I disagree. Whatever. But it's not personal. It's not. BUT you guys frequently call us "debunkers" out in threads, particularly astronut (see above quoted post) MEANWHILE, your boy Terral: he changed dates. I wonder if we hadn't spotted it if he would've ever brought it up at all. To be fair...who knows.
 Quoting: "...Sing, I'll sway.

This is the last time I address this 'changed dates' issue: The Dwarf Star Event Timeline Thread: Nibiru/Planet X Event Timeline is not a list of predictions. I am running an ELEnin Comet INVESTIGATION that includes this 'event timeline' that places events in their chronological order. If you go back to February of 2011, then we had warnings coming out about March 15, 2011 from everywhere. I took the ELEnin orbit data [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] and moved the dates ahead to locate a March 15, 2011 ELEnin alignment. I WAS WRONG. We had videos coming out before March 11, 2011 like this one [link to www.youtube.com] pointing to March 11, 2011 that used the same ELEnin JPL orbit data, but that is not all:

[link to scienceray.com]

[link to cavingnews.com]

[link to droughtmonitor.blogspot.com]

I failed to make the 'aquifer shift' connection that only became clear after the Japan Quake had already taken place on March 11, 2011. I did not realize that the aquifers from Texas to Florida also shifted with the Earth axis shifting 4 inches on March 11, 2011 'and' only then did I become aware of the fact that we had the same aquifer shifts on February 27, 2010 with the Chile Quake.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Mike demonstrates the connection between the Feb. 27, 2010, Sept. 4, 2010 and March 11, 2011 major earthquakes in Chile, Christchurch and Japan in the above video. Once my investigation turned up the new evidence, THEN I was able to make the 2/27/2010 - March 11, 2011 connection that Earth had passed through the gravity trough connecting the dwarf star gravity well and the Sun gravity well together. The Earth has the same magnetic portal connections to the Sun [link to science.nasa.gov] as the approaching dwarf star. Once I realized that my timeline was off by 4 days (3/15), THEN I went back to make the correction to the timeline Thread: Nibiru/Planet X Event Timeline (Page 35) . Again, if anybody here can show me reason to change anything in the event timeline using 'evidence,' then I must make the required changes to keep this investigation on the right track. This is how a real investigation works and I actually hope to be dead wrong about the whole ELEnin = dwarf star theory anyway ...
 Quoting: Terral


Terral,
Thank you and others for updates and extra material.

May I make a small suggestion that could clear up this matter?

Why not put a * with 'Note' (or similar) on the page and explain that updates WILL be made if necessary because its basically a projecttion and not a prediction.
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Re: Elenin/Planet X Caught On Video by 5T4RSCREAM
Terral...your Earth changes are happening...check it out...

In the last 30 days we have had 66 magnitude 6 to 6.9 EQ..This is an increase of almost 600% compared to an average month...We have also had 525 magnitude 5.0 to 5.9 EQ in the same period...450% increase...

Thread: Now do you believe me? We are over 500% above normal for Earthquakes in the last 30 days...
 Quoting: theSeeker


this is definetely something to look into
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