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BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!

 
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BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
And replaced with a new party/parties that are truly represented of the people. This I feel is the only plausable option for our country to get back on track and make our government serve the people instead of big corporations and foreign interests.
Everyone needs to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer.
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HERE HERE
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And replaced with a new party/parties that are truly represented of the people. This I feel is the only plausable option for our country to get back on track and make our government serve the people instead of big corporations and foreign interests.
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LMAO... the only time there was any politcal change in this country is when the Europeans took it from the Indians!
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What's ironic is that we have the power to change everything. All it takes is for all of us to not vote for any of them. This will silence them and their power in an instant. Unfortunately, most people would rather keep the status quo and slowly watch their rights get eroded away until one day we no longer even have the right to vote anymore.
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
And replaced with a new party/parties that are truly represented of the people. This I feel is the only plausable option for our country to get back on track and make our government serve the people instead of big corporations and foreign interests.
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join the tea party
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
And replaced with a new party/parties that are truly represented of the people. This I feel is the only plausable option for our country to get back on track and make our government serve the people instead of big corporations and foreign interests.
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join the tea party
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I have. Doesn't change the fact that the Dems and Repubs still have a lock on this government and are at the wheel of this sinking ship.
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
And replaced with a new party/parties that are truly represented of the people. This I feel is the only plausable option for our country to get back on track and make our government serve the people instead of big corporations and foreign interests.
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This, or anarchy. I think anarchy probably has a better chance of actually happening. Either way, there can be nothing new until we dismantle the old.
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
And replaced with a new party/parties that are truly represented of the people. This I feel is the only plausable option for our country to get back on track and make our government serve the people instead of big corporations and foreign interests.
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join the tea party
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Just another name for Republicans. Same as Conservative.
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
And replaced with a new party/parties that are truly represented of the people. This I feel is the only plausable option for our country to get back on track and make our government serve the people instead of big corporations and foreign interests.
 Quoting: Luckystrike


join the tea party
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326571


I have. Doesn't change the fact that the Dems and Repubs still have a lock on this government and are at the wheel of this sinking ship.
 Quoting: Luckystrike


Then organize and throw the incumbents out in the primaries. That's the time for change. Elect citizen legislators as was intended. keep voting for incumbents and you get what you deserve. I'd just as soon replace all of Congress with people off the street. They couldn't do any worse.
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
And replaced with a new party/parties that are truly represented of the people. This I feel is the only plausable option for our country to get back on track and make our government serve the people instead of big corporations and foreign interests.
 Quoting: Luckystrike


This, or anarchy. I think anarchy probably has a better chance of actually happening. Either way, there can be nothing new until we dismantle the old.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055544


True. It has be dismantled first. It will be painful, yes. We need to organize, whether its the Tea party or some other party. Our elected officials are clueless to what the average citizen is going through now a days. I think most people fear of what will happen once the current system is dismantled and the chaos that will inevitably ensue. The pain must be endured now otherwise our future generations will have nothing and look back at us and ask why didn't we stop this?
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
And replaced with a new party/parties that are truly represented of the people. This I feel is the only plausable option for our country to get back on track and make our government serve the people instead of big corporations and foreign interests.
 Quoting: Luckystrike


This, or anarchy. I think anarchy probably has a better chance of actually happening. Either way, there can be nothing new until we dismantle the old.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055544


True. It has be dismantled first. It will be painful, yes. We need to organize, whether its the Tea party or some other party. Our elected officials are clueless to what the average citizen is going through now a days. I think most people fear of what will happen once the current system is dismantled and the chaos that will inevitably ensue. The pain must be endured now otherwise our future generations will have nothing and look back at us and ask why didn't we stop this?
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I am the future generation asking why my forefathers didn't put a stop to it.

There should have been a revolution in 1913 when congress sold us out to the Fed, in the 30's with the great depression, in the 40's with Pearl Harbor, in the 50's with the whole McArthy debacle, in the 60's with Viet Nam (Tonga anyone?), 70's and 80's? Can't think of anything, in the 90's with the biggest tax increase in the history of the world, and without a doubt after 9/11.

Yet, sadly, it hasn't happened and the problems only get worse.

POLITICIANS ARE THE PROBLEM!
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PIN THIS MOTHER FUCKER!
AGREEEED!
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
And replaced with a new party/parties that are truly represented of the people. This I feel is the only plausable option for our country to get back on track and make our government serve the people instead of big corporations and foreign interests.
 Quoting: Luckystrike


This, or anarchy. I think anarchy probably has a better chance of actually happening. Either way, there can be nothing new until we dismantle the old.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055544


True. It has be dismantled first. It will be painful, yes. We need to organize, whether its the Tea party or some other party. Our elected officials are clueless to what the average citizen is going through now a days. I think most people fear of what will happen once the current system is dismantled and the chaos that will inevitably ensue. The pain must be endured now otherwise our future generations will have nothing and look back at us and ask why didn't we stop this?
 Quoting: Luckystrike


I am the future generation asking why my forefathers didn't put a stop to it.

There should have been a revolution in 1913 when congress sold us out to the Fed, in the 30's with the great depression, in the 40's with Pearl Harbor, in the 50's with the whole McArthy debacle, in the 60's with Viet Nam (Tonga anyone?), 70's and 80's? Can't think of anything, in the 90's with the biggest tax increase in the history of the world, and without a doubt after 9/11.

Yet, sadly, it hasn't happened and the problems only get worse.

POLITICIANS ARE THE PROBLEM!
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If more people would have listened to McCarty, we'd be better off right now. McCarthy was spot on.
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
Most people are so caught up in their daily lives and work and family. They have given up their power to these politicians and let them run this country the way they see fit. Unfortunately, the politicans serve who ever is the highest bidder. This is wrong!! This is our country!! This is our future!! GIVE IT BACK!!!!!!!
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If more people would have listened to McCarty, we'd be better off right now. McCarthy was spot on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326571


Either we're free or not. Of course, now we (at least we here at GLP) realize we are not. Back then, not so much.

I don't care for the communist doctrine, but freedom isn't based on what I (or any other person or group) cares for. Freedom is just that. FREEDOM. And in today's US of A, it DOES NOT EXIST. Why? Because we (the people) allowed them (the politicians) to take it away bit by bit by bit.

Somebody wants to be a communist or a socialist? Go right ahead. In a democracy, or more importantly, a republic, MOST of the people would have to want it for it to go anywhere and that simply would not have happened.
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
The structural problems involved at the federal level are really too big for any one party to solve. Out of control agencies are like fiefdoms, the debt is overwhelming, congress is castrated, etc.

A possibility to change things exists at the state level, 10th amendment and nullification. But even at that level the amount of change required to overcome big government is incredible.

Probably the best tactic is to continue to educate people about natural rights and the constitution. The level of ignorance among the public is staggering.

The more people who take the time to relearn their history, the more people will be able to make good decisions when the general government fails via bankruptcy, the collapse of the dollar and chaos in the entitlement classes.

That is the critical time, if the majority do not understand the principles of natural rights and liberty there is a good possibility we will be under a military dictatorship or a fascist/communist rule.
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
Dismantling this system is the only viable option here. Otherwise, we will have more of the same and nothing will ever change. The only change we will ever see will be for the worse. It's called a REVOLUTION, not with guns or violence but with ideas. We can change this!! VOTE THEM OUT!!!!
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
Dismantling this system is the only viable option here. Otherwise, we will have more of the same and nothing will ever change. The only change we will ever see will be for the worse. It's called a REVOLUTION, not with guns or violence but with ideas. We can change this!! VOTE THEM OUT!!!!
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Vote who out exactly? The candidates we are presented with are picked, "right" or "left". If you vote independent then each independent has their own paradigm that conflicts with other independents and a majority cannot be garnered to make the necessary changes.

The majority needs to understand, appreciate and return to the fundamentals of the constitution. That is what is important and the only thing that will create change.
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
Dismantling this system is the only viable option here. Otherwise, we will have more of the same and nothing will ever change. The only change we will ever see will be for the worse. It's called a REVOLUTION, not with guns or violence but with ideas. We can change this!! VOTE THEM OUT!!!!
 Quoting: Luckystrike


agreed

I've been talking about this for years... KICK THEM ALL OUT, VOTE 3RD PARTY INDEPENDENTS!
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Re: BOTH DEMOCRATS & REPUBLICANS NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NEXT ELECTION!!
Dismantling this system is the only viable option here. Otherwise, we will have more of the same and nothing will ever change. The only change we will ever see will be for the worse. It's called a REVOLUTION, not with guns or violence but with ideas. We can change this!! VOTE THEM OUT!!!!
 Quoting: Luckystrike


the vote is rigged. has been for decades.

your best option is to get your state governments to either dissolve the union (and maybe reform a more perfect union -- maybe) or get together to do extreme nullification and extreme limiting of federal power.

otherwise, every state is going to get more and more f*cked up.

the states should be doing this anyway. let them know that you expect something like this and expect it now or you will be voting in different state reps, senators, and governors.

it is harder for them to rig state elections.

be an election official and help count the vote. get your state to vote on paper with a receipt.



or take a camera with you and photograph your ballot after you fill it out -- that's what i do.





GLP