Jerry Falwell's Liberty University received more federal aid money than NPR did last year | |
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VivianV (OP) User ID: 1329924 United States 04/05/2011 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Salon'??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328397LMAO!!! Agenda, much? Let's see a breakdown of 'Pell Grants' across the board at ALL universities and colleges. oh ok, so you think because if something is from salon, it is invalid to you? and the point its making is about how the government has now defunded npr, which wasn't even getting as much money as this christian based school. and yes this private religious school received an enormous amount in pell grants, and now they just cut those too for all state schools as well..... Last Edited by VivianV on 04/05/2011 10:20 PM Life without learning is like a flower without scent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1231309 United States 04/05/2011 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Salon'??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328397LMAO!!! Agenda, much? Let's see a breakdown of 'Pell Grants' across the board at ALL universities and colleges. I can vouch for this. I live 25 miles from Liberty University. This story was on the front page of our newspaper. So THERE! The good old "conservatives" of Liberty have noooooo problem accepting all that federal money when it helps further their agenda. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1329885 United States 04/05/2011 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Religion has an important place in the scheme of things: [link to voidmanufacturing.files.wordpress.com] |
VivianV (OP) User ID: 1329924 United States 04/05/2011 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Religion has an important place in the scheme of things: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1329885[link to voidmanufacturing.files.wordpress.com] so true, capitalism is a train about to derail, it's too greed based and does not trickle down to the ones holding it all up.... Life without learning is like a flower without scent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1329955 United States 04/05/2011 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Subsidizing religion is a Republican thing. It's like admitting the religion getting the money can't take care of their own people because their corrupt. No self respecting church organization would take tax money. They don't pay taxes and they rely on handout from the tax payers, sounds like Scientology. |
VivianV (OP) User ID: 1329924 United States 04/05/2011 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Salon'??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328397LMAO!!! Agenda, much? Let's see a breakdown of 'Pell Grants' across the board at ALL universities and colleges. [link to www2.newsadvance.com] Life without learning is like a flower without scent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1328397 United States 04/05/2011 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Religion has an important place in the scheme of things: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1329885[link to voidmanufacturing.files.wordpress.com] so true, capitalism is a train about to derail, it's too greed based and does not trickle down to the ones holding it all up.... You sound like the PERFECT Proletariat. |
VivianV (OP) User ID: 1329924 United States 04/05/2011 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Religion has an important place in the scheme of things: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1329885[link to voidmanufacturing.files.wordpress.com] so true, capitalism is a train about to derail, it's too greed based and does not trickle down to the ones holding it all up.... You sound like the PERFECT Proletariat. aaaand? you mean i sound like a marxist now? Life without learning is like a flower without scent. |
VivianV (OP) User ID: 1329969 United States 04/05/2011 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, you can go to Liberty University and get a B.A. in science with a degree in Creation Studies. How cool?!?!?!{SARCASM} ___________________________________________ [link to www.liberty.edu] Center for Creation Studies Dr. David DeWitt of the Center for Creation Studies:The Center for Creation Studies is an interdisciplinary education and research institute committed to the study of the origin of the universe, the earth, life and the species. This study draws upon knowledge from religion, science, philosophy and history. The primary educational activity of the Center is the presentation of CRST 290, History of Life. This course is required of all Liberty students and is designed to provide a thorough understanding of the creation-evolution controversy. A more in-depth, discussion-based class, CRST 390, is also available for students with a science background or strong interest in the study of origins. CRST 390 is an in depth study of the biblical and scientific views of the origin of the universe, life and man. Evidence and arguments for creation and evolution will be discussed. The Creation Studies minor The minor in creation studies provides a flexible program with a broad training in scientific disciplines that relate to origins as well as the Bible. Students in science or non-science majors can benefit from the in depth study of creation and evolution. The Creation Studies Minor is 20 hours and classes include CRST 290 and 390, as well as BIBL 410. The student will be able to: * Demonstrate a consistent, biblical worldview regarding origins * Explain key scientific evidences and arguments used to support the theory of evolution as well as difficulties with the theory * Provide scientific and biblical arguments in support of creation. Creation display The Creation Studies display includes a total of 33 skull casts, with five hand and feet skeletal casts and black models of hands and feet. The skulls casts are from male and female gorilla, chimpanzees and orangutans. There is also a coyote skull and hand cast and skull casts for scientific fossils such as Lucy, and the fossil hoax Piltdown Man. There is a human skull and hand cast as well. History place cards show some background information on creationism, one example being the comparison of Neanderthals to modern humans. PURPOSE The purpose of the Center for Creation Studies is to promote the development of a consistent biblical view of origins in our students. The Center seeks to equip students to defend their faith in the creation account in Genesis using science, reason, and the Scriptures. Life without learning is like a flower without scent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113553 United States 04/05/2011 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Religion has an important place in the scheme of things: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1329885[link to voidmanufacturing.files.wordpress.com] so true, capitalism is a train about to derail, it's too greed based and does not trickle down to the ones holding it all up.... You sound like the PERFECT Proletariat. aaaand? you mean i sound like a marxist now? No. You sound like an ignorant college girl. |
VivianV (OP) User ID: 1329973 United States 04/05/2011 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. You sound like an ignorant college girl. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113553Well I'm neither ignorant nor in college anymore. I post things to have discussions, but it seems like people would rather call each other names and ridicule. So, maybe that's what this forum is for instead of for the sharing and discussion of ideas???? Life without learning is like a flower without scent. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1329850 United States 04/05/2011 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so now what? all these idiots are trying to control how we get our information via public radio and they give half a billion to an evangelical christian university???? Quoting: VivianV[link to www.salon.com] That is fucking disgusting! Educational journalism is defunded and marginalized, but bronze age bat shit is promoted! |
VivianV (OP) User ID: 1329983 United States 04/05/2011 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is fucking disgusting! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1329850Educational journalism is defunded and marginalized, but bronze age bat shit is promoted! I know, it really is gross! Life without learning is like a flower without scent. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1047610 United States 04/06/2011 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so now what? all these idiots are trying to control how we get our information via public radio and they give half a billion to an evangelical christian university???? Quoting: VivianV[link to www.salon.com] Compare universities to universities, dummy. How stupid do you think people are. NPR- the left government voice of manipulation and lies - is done. |
VivianV (OP) User ID: 1331118 United States 04/06/2011 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so now what? all these idiots are trying to control how we get our information via public radio and they give half a billion to an evangelical christian university???? Quoting: VivianV[link to www.salon.com] Compare universities to universities, dummy. How stupid do you think people are. NPR- the left government voice of manipulation and lies - is done. What are you getting at? NPR is actually not leftist or righty, its information, don't you think thats what people need is unbiased info? If you think NPR is lefty and wrong, then you are screwed. Period. Evangelical Religious institutions SHOULD NOT be getting money from taxpayers to teach people creationism as science. Period. Life without learning is like a flower without scent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1331042 United States 04/06/2011 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so now what? all these idiots are trying to control how we get our information via public radio and they give half a billion to an evangelical christian university???? Quoting: VivianV[link to www.salon.com] Compare universities to universities, dummy. How stupid do you think people are. NPR- the left government voice of manipulation and lies - is done. What are you getting at? NPR is actually not leftist or righty, its information, don't you think thats what people need is unbiased info? If you think NPR is lefty and wrong, then you are screwed. Period. Evangelical Religious institutions SHOULD NOT be getting money from taxpayers to teach people creationism as science. Period. Cutting multi million dollar federal welfare checks to right wing evangelical universities is NOT socialism! Oh, wait. Maybe it is. |
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VivianV (OP) User ID: 1331519 United States 04/07/2011 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BS to what? its true, didn't you see someone put up link to a story beyond "salon.com" which everyone think is bs..... why the bs, or do you even know why you put the flags up? or was it just to be against a thread speaking truth?????? bs to your bs, how bout that? Life without learning is like a flower without scent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1050798 United States 04/07/2011 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so now what? all these idiots are trying to control how we get our information via public radio and they give half a billion to an evangelical christian university???? Quoting: VivianV[link to www.salon.com] You are bashing this college for taking students who have a low income and receive federal aid? How can they win? Ever? |
VivianV (OP) User ID: 1331519 United States 04/07/2011 01:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so now what? all these idiots are trying to control how we get our information via public radio and they give half a billion to an evangelical christian university???? Quoting: VivianV[link to www.salon.com] You are bashing this college for taking students who have a low income and receive federal aid? How can they win? Ever? I am not bashing the college because of that, I'm bashing it because they are teaching creationism as science and you can get a degree in it with government funding. The government should not be funding ANY institutions of religion. None. Life without learning is like a flower without scent. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1050798 United States 04/07/2011 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so now what? all these idiots are trying to control how we get our information via public radio and they give half a billion to an evangelical christian university???? Quoting: VivianV[link to www.salon.com] You are bashing this college for taking students who have a low income and receive federal aid? How can they win? Ever? I am not bashing the college because of that, I'm bashing it because they are teaching creationism as science and you can get a degree in it with government funding. The government should not be funding ANY institutions of religion. None. How is that Liberty University's fault and what does this have to do with Jerry Fallwell(he is dead you know). Their students can apply for any grant they wish, if they government deems it worthy, how is it the colleges fault? |
VivianV (OP) User ID: 1331519 United States 04/07/2011 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so now what? all these idiots are trying to control how we get our information via public radio and they give half a billion to an evangelical christian university???? Quoting: VivianV[link to www.salon.com] You are bashing this college for taking students who have a low income and receive federal aid? How can they win? Ever? I am not bashing the college because of that, I'm bashing it because they are teaching creationism as science and you can get a degree in it with government funding. The government should not be funding ANY institutions of religion. None. How is that Liberty University's fault and what does this have to do with Jerry Fallwell(he is dead you know). Their students can apply for any grant they wish, if they government deems it worthy, how is it the colleges fault? I'm not saying its his fault, yes he is dead, I am saying its the gov's fault and now they've cut funding from npr, which got less $ than most universities get because its overtaxing the budget?!?!?! They are cutting things that are miniscule in budget because they are spreading information, not because they are spending too much on public radio. Get it? Life without learning is like a flower without scent. |
the prophecyer User ID: 870032 United States 04/07/2011 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liberty’s use of federal financial aid does not run counter to the university’s conservative values. Liberty does not receive the federal money directly, Ritz said, but through students, who use it to pay for tuition, room and board and other expenses. “These funds are authorized by Congress and Congress is elected by voters. . . I’ve always been in the position where I believe I’m a steward of those federal funds. I’m a steward of tax-payer money.” so the government is paying for the tuition, room and board and other expenses. and the leftists are just bitching because of the school these students are attending. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1050798 United States 04/07/2011 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1050798You are bashing this college for taking students who have a low income and receive federal aid? How can they win? Ever? I am not bashing the college because of that, I'm bashing it because they are teaching creationism as science and you can get a degree in it with government funding. The government should not be funding ANY institutions of religion. None. How is that Liberty University's fault and what does this have to do with Jerry Fallwell(he is dead you know). Their students can apply for any grant they wish, if they government deems it worthy, how is it the colleges fault? I'm not saying its his fault, yes he is dead, I am saying its the gov's fault and now they've cut funding from npr, which got less $ than most universities get because its overtaxing the budget?!?!?! They are cutting things that are miniscule in budget because they are spreading information, not because they are spending too much on public radio. Get it? You think NPR is essential? Why? What on earth did the country do before NPR. Must of been hell. IF your quibble is about misuse of money(ie LU) then I agree with you. What that has to do with NPR is beyond me. IF you want to know the truth, we need to cut spending by 50percent. Government is bloated. |