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UCB finds I-131 and Cs-134 & 7 in milk, spinach, kale, arugula, grass, strawberries, soil and mushrooms

 
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Ok, so I just bought strawberries from California, should I just dump them in the garbage??? and what the hell can we eat that is safe, I have 7yr and 9 year old children and I'm really starting to freak out!!! any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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All kinds of options are available depending on how cautious you'd like to be right now. What do your kids like to eat - give me some menu faves, and I'll suggest substitutions. Berries, leafy greens have okay frozen options right now while we wait for dissipation data. Irish plugra is a butter option. There are good canned or powdered milk and dairy options. Dried beans, pasta etc., canned goods, cilantro appears okay (yay?), potatos, apples, thick peel fruits, peppers... Aged or imported cheeses...
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Thanks a lot OP.
I want to be very cautious, better safe than sorry, especially when it comes to my children. They are good eaters, not picky at all. So you are saying peppers, apples, potatoes are still good, I'm guessing things that are grown under ground like carrots?? And are meats still ok (beef and chicken)? And what about fruit juices? man I hate this...huh.
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It really busts my metaphoric nuts that we have to scrape and claw for information about what should be transparentlly disclosed, verifiable and planned for.

Why is this a mostly citizen movement? Reduce rain exposure during fallout detection - duh. Monitor food and water for safety - WTF?. Science-based apolitical recommendations - crickets chirping. Restrict import for all consumables - increase imports of S. Hemsphere sources - nobody home. Found cesium and iodine in the milk? Then, stop open grazing livestock - blank stare with ass plug expression. Ask a reasonable question, raise an eyebrow - move along acceptable risk monkey and Keep Shopping! Tell your friends and family - bring on the ostrich parade ridicule.

I just feel that the last shred of hope for ethics and accountability in government went up with those nukey rods too.

It pisses me off for the wee ones who count on us, and who have the bigger risk - more than anything! Even our pets who like to grass roll... And they are silent - for what? Another reactor? Some more cash you can't take with you? If you don't kill us directly, but allow it by greed or malfeasance, or stay quiet to offset liability - then, somehow that's acceptable?

I'm saying none of this is acceptable.

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I really don't see what you are panicking about, even the higher numbers would be comparable to flying in a jet from LA to New York City..that's about all the radiation you would get.
It is not really harmful at this point.
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No it would not.
[link to www.nrc.gov]

Learn about the different types of radiation there.
Flying in a jet,fruit,or an xray have a multiplier of 1.Cesium,Iodine,and fall out have a multiplier of 20.

Those are if you are standing next to them.If you take them internally they are MUCH worse.There is no comparison to an international flight unless you are an idiot.
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Don't worry the FDA will approve these high levels and it will be ok. Look at the up side you will be glowing from the radiation and will be able to see in the dark.
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Ok, so I just bought strawberries from California, should I just dump them in the garbage??? and what the hell can we eat that is safe, I have 7yr and 9 year old children and I'm really starting to freak out!!! any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1215721


All kinds of options are available depending on how cautious you'd like to be right now. What do your kids like to eat - give me some menu faves, and I'll suggest substitutions. Berries, leafy greens have okay frozen options right now while we wait for dissipation data. Irish plugra is a butter option. There are good canned or powdered milk and dairy options. Dried beans, pasta etc., canned goods, cilantro appears okay (yay?), potatos, apples, thick peel fruits, peppers... Aged or imported cheeses...
 Quoting: MothraFlies


Thanks a lot OP.
I want to be very cautious, better safe than sorry, especially when it comes to my children. They are good eaters, not picky at all. So you are saying peppers, apples, potatoes are still good, I'm guessing things that are grown under ground like carrots?? And are meats still ok (beef and chicken)? And what about fruit juices? man I hate this...huh.
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Your authorities should have continuous screening programs in place that ensure you are not buying contaminated food. This is their job, they have all kinds of special equipment and expertise for this. So are there any special reasons you prefer judgments from anonymous Internet posters?
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I really don't see what you are panicking about, even the higher numbers would be comparable to flying in a jet from LA to New York City..that's about all the radiation you would get.
It is not really harmful at this point.
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No it would not.
[link to www.nrc.gov]

Learn about the different types of radiation there.
Flying in a jet,fruit,or an xray have a multiplier of 1.Cesium,Iodine,and fall out have a multiplier of 20.

Those are if you are standing next to them.If you take them internally they are MUCH worse.There is no comparison to an international flight unless you are an idiot.
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unless of course your plane happens to fly through a radioactive cloud.



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How to read reports of low radiation in air, water, and food samples April 9, 2011 - Rubicon Decision

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Ok, so I just bought strawberries from California, should I just dump them in the garbage??? and what the hell can we eat that is safe, I have 7yr and 9 year old children and I'm really starting to freak out!!! any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1215721


All kinds of options are available depending on how cautious you'd like to be right now. What do your kids like to eat - give me some menu faves, and I'll suggest substitutions. Berries, leafy greens have okay frozen options right now while we wait for dissipation data. Irish plugra is a butter option. There are good canned or powdered milk and dairy options. Dried beans, pasta etc., canned goods, cilantro appears okay (yay?), potatos, apples, thick peel fruits, peppers... Aged or imported cheeses...
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Thanks a lot OP.
I want to be very cautious, better safe than sorry, especially when it comes to my children. They are good eaters, not picky at all. So you are saying peppers, apples, potatoes are still good, I'm guessing things that are grown under ground like carrots?? And are meats still ok (beef and chicken)? And what about fruit juices? man I hate this...huh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1215721


Your authorities should have continuous screening programs in place that ensure you are not buying contaminated food. This is their job, they have all kinds of special equipment and expertise for this. So are there any special reasons you prefer judgments from anonymous Internet posters?
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Please keep in mind that the Canadian authorities are the ones that said "we will not test the milk for radiation" and you are saying that these are the agencies I should trust to keep my family safe...if they are not testing the milk then how do I know if they are testing anything else?
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Chicken - not free range. Frozen fish (depending - fresh water salmon is susceptible, but canned salmon, or frozen is fine now), beef depending on source (not grass fed). Ask the butcher too. All the frozen items (including juice) should be okay based on dates. Canned, bottled, jarred or dried varieties of everything (beans, rice, spices, pasta, sauce, veggies, meals, soup) is safe so far - it's so early. It's a safe idea to stock the pantry with some of these extra items now. Careful of the domestic butter, fresh milk, cream cheese, fresh domestic ricotta, un-aged or non-imported cheese, the fresh berries, the fresh mushrooms and fresh leafy greens. Most S. Hemipshere import produce is fine - check the little tags and you'll see the import country on the sticker (Fiji, New Zealand, Chile)... Bananas, peppers, oranges, limes, lemons, potatoes (washed & peeled)... So many things really. In all this talk of what to avoid - we forget that. Drop me a line anytime. Don't panic, just breathe and prepare - you're way ahead of the game! That means you can get back to the fun bits and just check the situation like a weather report as you go - knowing you're a great parent.

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All kinds of options are available depending on how cautious you'd like to be right now. What do your kids like to eat - give me some menu faves, and I'll suggest substitutions. Berries, leafy greens have okay frozen options right now while we wait for dissipation data. Irish plugra is a butter option. There are good canned or powdered milk and dairy options. Dried beans, pasta etc., canned goods, cilantro appears okay (yay?), potatos, apples, thick peel fruits, peppers... Aged or imported cheeses...
 Quoting: MothraFlies


Thanks a lot OP.
I want to be very cautious, better safe than sorry, especially when it comes to my children. They are good eaters, not picky at all. So you are saying peppers, apples, potatoes are still good, I'm guessing things that are grown under ground like carrots?? And are meats still ok (beef and chicken)? And what about fruit juices? man I hate this...huh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1215721


Your authorities should have continuous screening programs in place that ensure you are not buying contaminated food. This is their job, they have all kinds of special equipment and expertise for this. So are there any special reasons you prefer judgments from anonymous Internet posters?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301223


Please keep in mind that the Canadian authorities are the ones that said "we will not test the milk for radiation" and you are saying that these are the agencies I should trust to keep my family safe...if they are not testing the milk then how do I know if they are testing anything else?
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Is this really true? I can't believe it... milk concentrations are regarded as one of the finest indicators there is for radiological contamination here in Sweden so it is beyond my understanding why they chose not to use it.

It is excellent because you get a very fast and accurate picture of local variations.

Are you sure this is true, that milk is not tested?
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Your authorities should have continuous screening programs in place that ensure you are not buying contaminated food. This is their job, they have all kinds of special equipment and expertise for this. So are there any special reasons you prefer judgments from anonymous Internet posters?


Please keep in mind that the Canadian authorities are the ones that said "we will not test the milk for radiation" and you are saying that these are the agencies I should trust to keep my family safe...if they are not testing the milk then how do I know if they are testing anything else?


Is this really true? I can't believe it... milk concentrations are regarded as one of the finest indicators there is for radiological contamination here in Sweden so it is beyond my understanding why they chose not to use it.

It is excellent because you get a very fast and accurate picture of local variations.

Are you sure this is true, that milk is not tested?


Yes, please check the link [link to www.vancouversun.com]
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Ok, so I just bought strawberries from California, should I just dump them in the garbage??? and what the hell can we eat that is safe, I have 7yr and 9 year old children and I'm really starting to freak out!!! any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Your authorities should have continuous screening programs in place that ensure you are not buying contaminated food. This is their job, they have all kinds of special equipment and expertise for this. So are there any special reasons you prefer judgments from anonymous Internet posters?
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You have got to be kidding me here Swede! I don't know what planet you're visiting from, but it is obvious to everyone else that lies, more lies and nothing but lies are what we can expect from our officials! They will do whatever lying it takes to keep the wheels of commerce turning.

Present events should have been sufficient for you to have figured this out already.


Some people are so GD naive!
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Mix all of the above with Vermont Yankee(tritium,leaking 2yrs),the radioactive water dumped in a great lake by Quebec a few weeks ago and who knows what from the plant that had the person in charge fudging the safety reports in Tennessee that they found out about a few weeks ago and i believe the recipe is a bit more cumulative and dangerous.Seems those 3 issues in our back dooryard have been forgotten.The soup may have a bit more of this'n'that then taken into account.
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Is this really true? I can't believe it... milk concentrations are regarded as one of the finest indicators there is for radiological contamination here in Sweden so it is beyond my understanding why they chose not to use it.

It is excellent because you get a very fast and accurate picture of local variations.

Are you sure this is true, that milk is not tested?
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You're pretty thick, aren't you?


Canadian inspection agency refuses to test milk for radiation

Iodine traces found in Spokane product 'pose absolutely no risk'

Read more: [link to www.vancouversun.com]


Canadian health agencies have no immediate plans to measure the amount of radiation in milk following Japan's nuclear crisis despite the demands of B.C. dairy farmers who want officials to follow the U.S. and test dairy products.

"There will be no testing of milk," Alice Danjou, a spokeswoman for the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, said Friday.
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Based on my experience from the aftermath of Chernobyl where I live, there was very little you could do as "ordinary citizen" to protect yourself back in the days.

Very little information about what really happened was available, and we had to rely on the authorities to watch out for us. And they did, as far as I understand.

They came up with Becquerel limits for different types of food, enormous amounts of food had to be discarded. Elaborate monitoring and control programs were activated and we still have them operating. Some types of food are still not "out of the woods", so to speak. Cesium is still present and accumulates in certain food chains.
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can you provide more info about food safety please? link in enlgish will be the most helpful.
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Those are if you are standing next to them.If you take them internally they are MUCH worse.There is no comparison to an international flight unless you are an idiot.
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yes. that comparison is totally unscientific, ingesting and/or being exposed to a highly radioactive toxic substance is not the same as being in the same room as a microwave oven.
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Chicken - not free range. Frozen fish (depending - fresh water salmon is susceptible, but canned salmon, or frozen is fine now), beef depending on source (not grass fed). Ask the butcher too. All the frozen items (including juice) should be okay based on dates. Canned, bottled, jarred or dried varieties of everything (beans, rice, spices, pasta, sauce, veggies, meals, soup) is safe so far - it's so early. It's a safe idea to stock the pantry with some of these extra items now. Careful of the domestic butter, fresh milk, cream cheese, fresh domestic ricotta, un-aged or non-imported cheese, the fresh berries, the fresh mushrooms and fresh leafy greens. Most S. Hemipshere import produce is fine - check the little tags and you'll see the import country on the sticker (Fiji, New Zealand, Chile)... Bananas, peppers, oranges, limes, lemons, potatoes (washed & peeled)... So many things really. In all this talk of what to avoid - we forget that. Drop me a line anytime. Don't panic, just breathe and prepare - you're way ahead of the game! That means you can get back to the fun bits and just check the situation like a weather report as you go - knowing you're a great parent.
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OP thank you very much, that is great advice and info. It is nice to see that at least someone cares about the well being of families - unlike the government who denies there is a problem...
Thank you
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Your authorities should have continuous screening programs in place that ensure you are not buying contaminated food. This is their job, they have all kinds of special equipment and expertise for this. So are there any special reasons you prefer judgments from anonymous Internet posters?
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You have got to be kidding me here Swede! I don't know what planet you're visiting from, but it is obvious to everyone else that lies, more lies and nothing but lies are what we can expect from our officials! They will do whatever lying it takes to keep the wheels of commerce turning.

Present events should have been sufficient for you to have figured this out already.


Some people are so GD naive!
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Maybe I'm not entirely clear. What I try to do is to transmit a conception to you what you should demand of your authorities. As I said, it is impossible for laymen to make the required measurements of food, water, air.

I fail to see any reason why they would deal with this less professionally than the Swedish authorities did 25 years ago, with those monitoring and control systems still in place today. All measurement data is presented to the public in a totally tramsparent fashion, through Internet websites these days of course.

Naturally, there is always room for improvement and especially time resolution in times like this for certain types of data but I have no reason to doubt they are doing what we pay them to do and then some.

Maybe it is an unfair comparison considering our 25 years of experience from a major fallout accident but nevertheless: this is what you should expect of them as normal performance level very soon.

Yet, as I said in earlier posts in this thread, mistakes were made. The levels assumed safe turned out to be unsafe for unborn children at a certain phase of their development, this was not known at the time. Now it is.
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Hmmm how do you clean random radioactive isotopes? You dont :/
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I'm as concerned as the next guy about the fallout, but you'd have to eat 6000 pounds of strawberries for it to equal the round trip cross country they are using for comparison. It's worth watching, and definitely not cool to have ANY of this crap in our food supply, but it's not freak-out time for me yet. I only eat 4000 lbs of strawberries a day.
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what a moran.
sorry. just saying....
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You might want to check out this list of ways to protect yourself. Thread: **RADIATION PROTECTION**- non prescription list, revised and updated.
Emerald Eye has a couple of other threads on the same subject. These threads are long, but they have a wealth of info.
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FDL has a good article (a little dated from last month, but...):
[link to my.firedoglake.com]

Great American Spice Company has powdered milk, butter and eggs.

Here are doctor recommended preventative dietary suggestions:
[link to www.collapsenet.com]
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Sorry if I come across as a wiseguy here, sitting on a high horse or something...

But fact is that I trust our authorities to watch our back regarding radiological threats. They have earned my trust and I hope your equivilant authorities can manage to do the same.
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You have got to be kidding me here Swede! I don't know what planet you're visiting from, but it is obvious to everyone else that lies, more lies and nothing but lies are what we can expect from our officials! They will do whatever lying it takes to keep the wheels of commerce turning.

Present events should have been sufficient for you to have figured this out already.


Some people are so GD naive!
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Maybe I'm not entirely clear. What I try to do is to transmit a conception to you what you should demand of your authorities. As I said, it is impossible for laymen to make the required measurements of food, water, air.

I fail to see any reason why they would deal with this less professionally than the Swedish authorities did 25 years ago, with those monitoring and control systems still in place today. All measurement data is presented to the public in a totally tramsparent fashion, through Internet websites these days of course.

Naturally, there is always room for improvement and especially time resolution in times like this for certain types of data but I have no reason to doubt they are doing what we pay them to do and then some.

Maybe it is an unfair comparison considering our 25 years of experience from a major fallout accident but nevertheless: this is what you should expect of them as normal performance level very soon.

Yet, as I said in earlier posts in this thread, mistakes were made. The levels assumed safe turned out to be unsafe for unborn children at a certain phase of their development, this was not known at the time. Now it is.
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I would just like to assure you my repeated phone calls, emails and research to:
PUC for water
Governor's response teams
House Reps
Senators
Designated Agencies
White House
MSM
Research facilities
Testing departments

Have largely gone unanswered and ignored to date - except for the creepy and continual canned "safe/low dose" memes. Over and over again - no matter what independent or accredited and highly credentialed information is brought forward.

I agree with you - they should be testing. In fact, to date if they see somethng they don't like - that monitor is taken offlne, or pressure is brought to bear (as today in Massett, Canada rain advisory, or when the EPA took Richland's spike alert monitor offlne without alerting anyone). They really are not assisting taxpayers with sizable assets we've invested in, nor is much data publically available - only signatory governments. I am grateful to some sources of verifiable info in the absence of my government. Only local and municipal press - or universities are providing what information they can. This is so far a concerned physician's, scientists and citizen effort. I don't know why, there's no excuse for it. It feels like Corporate Governance Sociopathy or something? Some in our government are even trying to defund the few compromised agencies we have left. I am very jealous of your situation in Sweden. I wish I could have that too for all of us here - especially the kids. I really do. Be well!

In the meantime, we are demanding with little response. So we're trying to help each other out now - share sources where we can. Ya know, get to the business of protecting ourselves and our families - our peeps, our friends. I don't know what else to do, but if you have a link or source information to help with that on point - it would be appreciated here.

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All kinds of options are available depending on how cautious you'd like to be right now. What do your kids like to eat - give me some menu faves, and I'll suggest substitutions. Berries, leafy greens have okay frozen options right now while we wait for dissipation data. Irish plugra is a butter option. There are good canned or powdered milk and dairy options. Dried beans, pasta etc., canned goods, cilantro appears okay (yay?), potatos, apples, thick peel fruits, peppers... Aged or imported cheeses...
 Quoting: MothraFlies


Thanks a lot OP.
I want to be very cautious, better safe than sorry, especially when it comes to my children. They are good eaters, not picky at all. So you are saying peppers, apples, potatoes are still good, I'm guessing things that are grown under ground like carrots?? And are meats still ok (beef and chicken)? And what about fruit juices? man I hate this...huh.
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Your authorities should have continuous screening programs in place that ensure you are not buying contaminated food. This is their job, they have all kinds of special equipment and expertise for this. So are there any special reasons you prefer judgments from anonymous Internet posters?
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Please keep in mind that the Canadian authorities are the ones that said "we will not test the milk for radiation" and you are saying that these are the agencies I should trust to keep my family safe...if they are not testing the milk then how do I know if they are testing anything else?
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Just as they kept selling toxic fish and still do from the Gulf, 'authorities' are not planning to tell us zip in the way of truth OR testing.
They plan to allow everything we eat to flow all over the country in the same as ever.
BTW, the FDA just took huge cuts in their program which doesn't seem to be doing anything anyway. No loss there.
Same as it was in the Gulf, fisheries and (farmers, no testing) are responsible for their own very very expensive testing on a daily basis...which by the way is designed to put them out of business so their land can be leased out to oil companies and natural gas drillers. Meanwhile we find gulf fish in cans on the shelves, still fed to PETS and LIVESTOCK, in display cases at Whole Foods, gulf rice & produce on the table and in our OJ. The problem runs straight up the u.s. east coast as well.
I bought a lot of salt package dated before the disaster down there, and now might try mined salt, but never again ocean salt from anywhere.
I don't expect any gov't 'authority' oversight AT ALL.

Best we can do imho, is ask your local market if they can get X items from a supplier in a cleaner state (you dont' have to say cleaner state). I always ask where fruit and produce comes from, ask your produce guy to check the box it came in and they don't mind that.

For now organic lundberg's rice is still good, (not a rice eater usually) black beans, high proteins grown in a still-sort of ok area. I call companies to ask where their stuff came from if it's not stated on the package.

Good times!

Most of all, be your own authority from now on, and share what you learn.
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Are hot pocket still safe?
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Re: UCB finds I-131 and Cs-134 & 7 in milk, spinach, kale, arugula, grass, strawberries, soil and mushrooms
so how bad is it?

numbers are confusing if you don´t have thresholds....

another question....

will the produce and food get better or worse?

figuring the nuke plants are not emitting radiation like the first weeks?
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Many similarities between Chernobyl and Fukushima, btw. The almost total lack of information is one thing. The world is basically blind as a bat and needs to respond to what is sensed, without any kind of foreknowledge of what is happening or about to happen.

As comparison, awareness of Chernobyl started when sensors at Forsmark, one of our nuclear power plants, detected abnormal radiation levels indicating a major problem at that plant. This was investigated and it turned out that a Russian power plant in Chernobyl was in trouble.

Little by little the truth started to trickle out from the closed Soviet union at the time. Only effects could be measured and responded to, monitoring and control routines set up.

This is where we are now, again. Essentially blind as bats, relying on small pieces of information that flickers on and off from Japan and information from our own sensor networks.

There is also an important difference. All we know for certain is that the release of radiation from Japan will go on for months, years even. Decades, who knows? This is unprecedented and points even more clearly to the need of setting up effective monitoring and control systems to enable people to continue their lives without too much disturbance.

Make it happen.
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Re: UCB finds I-131 and Cs-134 & 7 in milk, spinach, kale, arugula, grass, strawberries, soil and mushrooms
California is the nation's #1 spinach producer (between 75-90%). Urf, we're sorry everybody.
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Spinach? Me and Popeye are gonna be WAY pissed.
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old conspiracy theorist here.....

here is a story you might not have heard....

according to one report....

the so called alien greys are us in the future....

they have traveled back in time....

purpose?....who knows?

anyways....you want to know why they are grey?

cause they are mutants....

the radiation eventually mutated us to that point....

also they can´t breed and reproduce by genetic engineering....

crazy?

you bet!
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Re: UCB finds I-131 and Cs-134 & 7 in milk, spinach, kale, arugula, grass, strawberries, soil and mushrooms
I would just like to assure you my repeated phone calls, emails and research to:
PUC for water
Governor's response teams
House Reps
Senators
Designated Agencies
White House
MSM
Research facilities
Testing departments

Have largely gone unanswered and ignored to date - except for the creepy and continual canned "safe/low dose" memes. Over and over again - no matter what independent or accredited and highly credentialed information is brought forward.

...
 Quoting: MothraFlies


Then they fail to do their job, IMO. As state agencies they should have certain performance levels to live up to and answer time is one of them.

Just to test our own "Radiation Safety Authority" the other day, I wrote a letter to them asking for certain measurements that I could not find on their website.

Within 24 hours I got a respose, with links to the information resources I asked for (it was actually on their website, only that I missed it). A very polite and professional response, explaining the organization of the measurement program and what other authorities I could contact for more detailed information.

You should expect nothing less from your equivalent authorities. It is a very important component in the psychological defence strategy/capability of your country to provide citizens with timely and accurate information.





GLP