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I think you are misunderstanding me. I am against nuclear power and I despise the idiots who build reactors claiming there safe then poison people.

I was a victim of Three Mile Island, but no one will ever make that right. I already dealt with lymphoma once..... I can not consume any more radiation as the treatments maxed me out. This is worse for me then the regular guy.

edit: never mind, I realized it was at another poster...LOL
 Quoting: East of Autumn


LOL.. np..

However I am in a similar boat also.. I had iodine treatment for a thyroid disease so if it comes this way I also can not take any of the "medical" preventatives..

But I can assure you that if that plume starts heading this way not one single person in my family will go without a mask .. period. I dont care how stupid it looks.. at least I will be looking stupid but alive..
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lol you should be deploying the tin foil hats hahaha
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I do however consider myself to be caring, aware, concerned, and SICK AND TIRED of the BS we keep putting up with..
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rofl
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@Rager..

You say you live in the now.. and my spiritual self agrees with living in the now absolutely, but tomorrow I have to eat.. tomorrow I have to have water, food, shelter to ensure that tomorrow at 11am I can be LIVING in the now..

Do you not balance your accounts? Pay your bills? Buy groceries for next week?..

Living in the now is a completely misunderstood concept. It is supposed to reflect that in this moment you appreciate what you have and you give thanks for it and you enjoy it. It does not mean ignoring your needs for tomorrow.

I do not suggest that anyone should embrace fear.. fear is no good to you.. but action, knowledge, determination to ensure the continuation of our species surely is an important trait to have as a human being ??
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Well HOLY HELL.
Thanks for link OP. There is a wealth of data in these. You can see that a good bit of fallout IS making it to the west coast. The good news, if you can call any of this good, is that only high altitude radiation is being carried across the US to the central plains and east coast. Doesn't look like any fallout east of the southwestern US unless rain is bringing it down.
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I live in the Midwest and Spring time means rain which isnt' comforting at ALL. Besides all of the U.S. is a concern to me and it sucks that our gov't isn't putting up warnings to the West coast people - all of us! AND, I can't believe the world community is so silent!

Played cards last night with a couple and tried bringing up the radiation issue - they looked at me like I had three heads - either they weren't informed, don't care to be informed, are afraid of being informed or are plain stupid.

Sadly, I think most people are buying the rubbish that there is no threat to the U.S. -- that just shows how DUMBED DOWN most people are in the U.S.
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Go bang a Roo !!!
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OP: tks for posting this thread....some of us here had not seen those reports......so much going on lately, its impossible to keep up with it all.

I'm sorry too that you ran into a hornet's nest with posting this thread. Seems all the hornets from GLP descended on you here.

I gave up trying to bring info & truth to people in my circle, because they prefer to live in denial. I find that such people lack courage to face harsh realities, even ones that will cause their demise. Such people will not make it through the difficult times.

Have you noticed OP that the words "fear mongering" are flaunted around a lot now? Indeed it is the new buzz words to shut people up from telling the truth. Watch how often you will see these 2 words used in threads such as this.

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A Declaration of War is given



by Walter Burien - CAFR1
04/10/11



I have listened to many of the different media heads and ABC, CNN, CBS, NBC, PBS programs closely for the last three weeks as the so called "budget debates" takes place. The one issue that is as basic as it gets when it comes down to any budget discussion there has not been one mention of. In the absence of not a mention in all respects of that issue it makes the "budget discussions" a 100% complete charade.

Each and every one of us whether being in poverty or a billionaire when we discus our annual or monthly budget for home or business will discuss with our significant other or business partners two basic issues:

#1. Our normal operating expenses; planed expenses for any project we are working on or intend to implement; and any standing balances we plan on keeping as time passes.

#2. What our standing investments are that we have; account balances of all liquid cash; and our income we expect to get from all sources with all sources being our investment, salary, sales, and other sources.

In the "budget debates or discussions" we have been watching the issues presented that are saturating the air waves through the talking heads; news; and media programs almost exclusively, if not without exception, have only talked about; discussed; or presented the topic of #1 above.


[link to cafr1.com]
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if i am deemed a coward for accepting my reality, then you are no less of a coward. WHEN do you plan on standing up against this? i'd like to know, if not that is a very hypocritical post. i am just trying to live a normal life in some very weird times, while all of you doomtards are all paranoid and panicking over this. go ahead and do that. worrying will get you nowhere. i am more worried about the immediate threats that could affect me and possibly kill me. if you want to worry yourself about the future, go ahead. i will continue to live in the now.
 Quoting: Rager


Calm down, you need to take your own advice and live with the reality that people are posting about this and want to read this.

Why don't you calm down and stop worrying about people that want the truth and to protect themselves?

Talk about being paranoid and panicking, your jumping all over this thread as if someone put ants in your pants.

I guess you feel this thread is an immediate threat to you since your going a bit loony over it.
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Proof that the US Government has had access to their own forecast modeling for all the radiation fall out going back as far as the 21st of march at least. They havent advertised it nor used it to warn people.

NOTE: since Dutch posted this there have been no additional models loaded on the website...

[link to www.atmos.umd.edu]

[link to www.atmos.umd.edu]

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.woweather.com]
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer



Well HOLY HELL.
Thanks for link OP. There is a wealth of data in these. You can see that a good bit of fallout IS making it to the west coast. The good news, if you can call any of this good, is that only high altitude radiation is being carried across the US to the central plains and east coast. Doesn't look like any fallout east of the southwestern US unless rain is bringing it down.
 Quoting: N3m3s1s


Can I take a moment to educate you just a little...

High altitude is where the rain and snow comes from. High altitude radiation will then be in the rain water, snow, storms etc..

High altitude radiation is BAD.. very BAD...
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer


The fallout models up to today... they are not that pretty.

[link to www.woweather.com]

And to those who would say Im fearmongering.. let me ask you this...

Is a tornado warning/watch fear mongering ?

Is a tsunami warning fear mongering?

Is a cyclone/hurricane warning fear mongering?

Is knowldege in anyway shape or form fear mongering?

I say no.

If this was happening to australia I would be organising protests, media and internet floods of information, I would be contacting schools and speakign to the youth of my country and asking them if they are happy about the fact that this disaster has just fucked the world the are to inherit and how do they feel about that.

I am not spreading fear.. Im trying to get people to get out of the lukewarm pot on the stove and realise they are being systematically cooked
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer


warning of a cancer comming to a home near you is fucking different than a tornado warning.

and the links you provide are hardly good sorces.

pppfffttttttrttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1336668


So your saying you would rather not know your being poisoned?

You would rather they lie to you and tell you everything is hunky dory?

My brother died of cancer so I know first hand what a horrible and prolonged painful death it is, as do many people who have watched a loved one die from this horrible disease..

And your quite happy to just stay in the dark about it?

Thats your choice.. but im sure there are many who dont want to be left in the dark..

Im sure there are many mothers and fathers who do not want to willingly have their children breath or injest something they know will kill them

Im sure these mothers and fathers dont want to sit at their dying childs bedside for months on end through kemo visits, loss of hair, appetite and watch them waste away to nothing and in horrible pain..

Thats what my parents went through... thats what I went through

So ok fine.. ignore it.. thats your choice.. but do not prevent OTHER people who want to know from accessing information.

And if you have better links dear then by all means post them.
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer


What exactly do you want people to protest about and who do you want them to protest against?

Don't get me wrong... I'm all for a good protest, I just want some direction.

spock
 Quoting: Deej


I gave you some direction... GO ON STRIKE... for one 24hour period do NOTHING, dont buy anything, dont go out, dont go to school, work, volunteer etc.. All bar essential services. Organise it. Get on the net and get it viral.

Protest that the EPA is RAISING the safe levels just so they can say there is no danger... WTF?

Protest that the Government is not taking YOUR life seriously and telling you to go about your business as if this is no big deal..

There are more of you than there are government officials and military put together, WHERE IS YOUR VOICE?
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer


I am not spreading fear.. Im trying to get people to get out of the lukewarm pot on the stove and realise they are being systematically cooked
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer


when the people get out of the pot where do they go? how do you fix this situation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1311564


Isnt that up to you to figure out since its happening to YOUR country..

I mean at the very least shouldnt the government be pulling contaminated samples?

shouldnt they be shipping in bottled water from the southern hemisphere?

shouldnt they be supplying at the very least children with masks even the most basic of masks would help. Plutonium can not penetrate material from the information I have read.

shouldnt they be telling you to stay in doors when a heavy and thick plume is floating over head of you?

shouldnt you and your government be doing everything it can to remove tainted goods from circulation and to protect crops and food sources that are not contaminated?

It doesnt take a genius to figure out these are measures that could be taken..
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer


@Rager..

You say you live in the now.. and my spiritual self agrees with living in the now absolutely, but tomorrow I have to eat.. tomorrow I have to have water, food, shelter to ensure that tomorrow at 11am I can be LIVING in the now..

Do you not balance your accounts? Pay your bills? Buy groceries for next week?..

Living in the now is a completely misunderstood concept. It is supposed to reflect that in this moment you appreciate what you have and you give thanks for it and you enjoy it. It does not mean ignoring your needs for tomorrow.

I do not suggest that anyone should embrace fear.. fear is no good to you.. but action, knowledge, determination to ensure the continuation of our species surely is an important trait to have as a human being ??
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer

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Rant all you want, OP, but the supposed facts don't fit the science. The charts indicate that the plume hasn't even reached the states, yet Americans keep posting that there's radiation in their milk or their fruit, or whatever. It doesn't matter. Until my government tells me I need to do something, there ain't much I need to do.

Idiots here on GLP keep posting that our government is doing this or lying about that. It's all a bunch of conspiracy THEORIES!!! There isn't one ounce of evidence that our country's leaders plan on committing suicide along with the rest of us. They have no desire to die any more than any of us peons do. If what you say is true, then once that plume comes over my state's capitol, I'll find NOBODY of any political importance, no senators, no representatives, not even my governor in town??? My capitol will be EMPTY??? Uh,..I don't think so. They don't wish to die of cancer either.

So,... have a nice day.

Truther :-)
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Rant all you want, OP, but the supposed facts don't fit the science. The charts indicate that the plume hasn't even reached the states, yet Americans keep posting that there's radiation in their milk or their fruit, or whatever. It doesn't matter. Until my government tells me I need to do something, there ain't much I need to do.

Idiots here on GLP keep posting that our government is doing this or lying about that. It's all a bunch of conspiracy THEORIES!!! There isn't one ounce of evidence that our country's leaders plan on committing suicide along with the rest of us. They have no desire to die any more than any of us peons do. If what you say is true, then once that plume comes over my state's capitol, I'll find NOBODY of any political importance, no senators, no representatives, not even my governor in town??? My capitol will be EMPTY??? Uh,..I don't think so. They don't wish to die of cancer either.

So,... have a nice day.

Truther :-)
 Quoting: Truther


WOOO HOOOOOOOOO

clappa
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Proof that the US Government has had access to their own forecast modeling for all the radiation fall out going back as far as the 21st of march at least. They havent advertised it nor used it to warn people.

NOTE: since Dutch posted this there have been no additional models loaded on the website...

[link to www.atmos.umd.edu]

[link to www.atmos.umd.edu]

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.woweather.com]
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer


thanks

sfan ahhh
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.... The charts indicate that the plume hasn't even reached the states, yet Americans keep posting that there's radiation in their milk or their fruit, or whatever. It doesn't matter. Until my government tells me I need to do something, there ain't much I need to do.
 Quoting: Truther


Guess you haven't been watching since this started. There is not one plume, there is a continuous plume since the radioactive releases are continuous, not a one time event. Which means that your statement just shows that you haven't a clue what is going on. Do some homework before you post perhaps....

Also, feel free to be a sheep
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if i am deemed a coward for accepting my reality, then you are no less of a coward. WHEN do you plan on standing up against this? i'd like to know, if not that is a very hypocritical post. i am just trying to live a normal life in some very weird times, while all of you doomtards are all paranoid and panicking over this. go ahead and do that. worrying will get you nowhere. i am more worried about the immediate threats that could affect me and possibly kill me. if you want to worry yourself about the future, go ahead. i will continue to live in the now.
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Calm down, you need to take your own advice and live with the reality that people are posting about this and want to read this.

Why don't you calm down and stop worrying about people that want the truth and to protect themselves?

Talk about being paranoid and panicking, your jumping all over this thread as if someone put ants in your pants.

I guess you feel this thread is an immediate threat to you since your going a bit loony over it.
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no. i get upset on threads like this when people act surprised when they hear something like the fact that the government had access to the information we had access to. wow, really? no fucking shit. i am on GLP on a almost daily basis because i enjoy getting the actual good information, and most of the time the real good info is never pinned. i have my personal pins and unpins set, my complaints are not for myself, it is for all the AC's and nonsubscribers who have to sift through the BS pins and BS threads to find the info that may actually be important to them. not these 'ooh look what i found' threads.
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Got my bags packed, moving to Brazil tomorrow.
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@Rager..

You say you live in the now.. and my spiritual self agrees with living in the now absolutely, but tomorrow I have to eat.. tomorrow I have to have water, food, shelter to ensure that tomorrow at 11am I can be LIVING in the now..

Do you not balance your accounts? Pay your bills? Buy groceries for next week?..

Living in the now is a completely misunderstood concept. It is supposed to reflect that in this moment you appreciate what you have and you give thanks for it and you enjoy it. It does not mean ignoring your needs for tomorrow.

I do not suggest that anyone should embrace fear.. fear is no good to you.. but action, knowledge, determination to ensure the continuation of our species surely is an important trait to have as a human being ??
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer


Fear is a primal instinct that alerts us when danger is present. Without it, humanity would never have made it this far. There is a big difference between living in fear, vs. living in awareness. When we live in awareness, we can gather data & use that info to be pro-active in order to organize our lives in a way that best suits our survival & happiness.

Danger exists currently for our survival & is therefore appropriate for us to gather data, plan & prepare, how we will deal or cope with this threat. This is living in awareness, no fear.
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Im going to repost something I said in one of the Fuku threads.. because I just can not believe that americans are going to just sit around and let themselves be murdered.

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I just want to ask why people say "its 400 times over the normal radiation safe levels... so not so bad as thought"

W.T.F?????
....
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer


What exactly do you want people to protest about and who do you want them to protest against?

Don't get me wrong... I'm all for a good protest, I just want some direction.

spock
 Quoting: Deej



I want our school board to install radiation isotope meters in all the schools.

I want to the school board to develop a step-level response to the readings, and if necessary do something such as:

Do not allow children to pay outside on the play yard,
Do not allow the bus windows to be opened,
Do not allow coats and hats in the class rooms

I want FERC to not permit the construction of new nuclear plants

I want the local radio station to issue isotope alerts along with the daily weather forecast,

I want EPA to issue an information brochure explaining simple steps that may be taken to reduce radiation exposure.

Not to scare everyone, just explain. Those who don't care will do nothing and those who do care may get a chance to live a few more healthy years.

I DO NOT want the damn Homeland Security involved. We got stupid color-level "t e r r o i s t" threats thrown at us after 9/11. No more stupid schitt.
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Rant all you want, OP, but the supposed facts don't fit the science. The charts indicate that the plume hasn't even reached the states, yet Americans keep posting that there's radiation in their milk or their fruit, or whatever. It doesn't matter. Until my government tells me I need to do something, there ain't much I need to do.

Idiots here on GLP keep posting that our government is doing this or lying about that. It's all a bunch of conspiracy THEORIES!!! There isn't one ounce of evidence that our country's leaders plan on committing suicide along with the rest of us. They have no desire to die any more than any of us peons do. If what you say is true, then once that plume comes over my state's capitol, I'll find NOBODY of any political importance, no senators, no representatives, not even my governor in town??? My capitol will be EMPTY??? Uh,..I don't think so. They don't wish to die of cancer either.

So,... have a nice day.

Truther :-)
 Quoting: Truther


What chart is that??.. because those charts have been showing it reaching the states for the last 3 weeks.. the one above is the link only for the last few days..tomorrow it will show the procession of that plume that is sitting off the west coast.. just as it did last week and the week before.

The ones from last week and the week before and the week before clearly show its been covering your country..

I suppose also that what little the media is reporting about contaminated food is also bs in your book? the media is just making that up and saying your milk is contaminated, your water is contaminated.. is that your belief?

How can the milk and water be contaminated if the plume hasnt reached the states..??

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The Truth of Life descends from the world of Eternal Light {the sun} to illuminate the minds, regenerate the hearts, raise and renew the souls of all the sons of Truth destined to constitute the nucleus of the new humanity - Peter Deunov
"Knowledge is the Great Endowment of the Creator that lives within you and allows you to experience & express humanity’s One Spirituality, beyond all divisions of race, culture, nation & religion. Knowledge alone has the power both to guide and protect the individual and to unite and enable humanity to chart a new way forward"
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Im going to repost something I said in one of the Fuku threads.. because I just can not believe that americans are going to just sit around and let themselves be murdered.

Quote:

I just want to ask why people say "its 400 times over the normal radiation safe levels... so not so bad as thought"

W.T.F?????
....
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer


What exactly do you want people to protest about and who do you want them to protest against?

Don't get me wrong... I'm all for a good protest, I just want some direction.

spock
 Quoting: Deej



I want our school board to install radiation isotope meters in all the schools.

I want to the school board to develop a step-level response to the readings, and if necessary do something such as:

Do not allow children to pay outside on the play yard,
Do not allow the bus windows to be opened,
Do not allow coats and hats in the class rooms

I want FERC to not permit the construction of new nuclear plants

I want the local radio station to issue isotope alerts along with the daily weather forecast,

I want EPA to issue an information brochure explaining simple steps that may be taken to reduce radiation exposure.

Not to scare everyone, just explain. Those who don't care will do nothing and those who do care may get a chance to live a few more healthy years.

I DO NOT want the damn Homeland Security involved. We got stupid color-level "t e r r o i s t" threats thrown at us after 9/11. No more stupid schitt.
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Then get on it... start to organise it.. become an activist for your family and for your country... get on youtube, facebook, twitter, call the news .. get your neighbours awake.. START... just start.. and it might just take off..

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Get A Kit, Make A Plan, Be Prepared. Zombie Apocalypses Do Happen!
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“The Sun of Light shines in the Heart as Love.”
The Truth of Life descends from the world of Eternal Light {the sun} to illuminate the minds, regenerate the hearts, raise and renew the souls of all the sons of Truth destined to constitute the nucleus of the new humanity - Peter Deunov
"Knowledge is the Great Endowment of the Creator that lives within you and allows you to experience & express humanity’s One Spirituality, beyond all divisions of race, culture, nation & religion. Knowledge alone has the power both to guide and protect the individual and to unite and enable humanity to chart a new way forward"
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@Rager..

You say you live in the now.. and my spiritual self agrees with living in the now absolutely, but tomorrow I have to eat.. tomorrow I have to have water, food, shelter to ensure that tomorrow at 11am I can be LIVING in the now..

Do you not balance your accounts? Pay your bills? Buy groceries for next week?..

Living in the now is a completely misunderstood concept. It is supposed to reflect that in this moment you appreciate what you have and you give thanks for it and you enjoy it. It does not mean ignoring your needs for tomorrow.

I do not suggest that anyone should embrace fear.. fear is no good to you.. but action, knowledge, determination to ensure the continuation of our species surely is an important trait to have as a human being ??
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer


Fear is a primal instinct that alerts us when danger is present. Without it, humanity would never have made it this far. There is a big difference between living in fear, vs. living in awareness. When we live in awareness, we can gather data & use that info to be pro-active in order to organize our lives in a way that best suits our survival & happiness.

Danger exists currently for our survival & is therefore appropriate for us to gather data, plan & prepare, how we will deal or cope with this threat. This is living in awareness, no fear.
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Exactly!!

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Well HOLY HELL.
Thanks for link OP. There is a wealth of data in these. You can see that a good bit of fallout IS making it to the west coast. The good news, if you can call any of this good, is that only high altitude radiation is being carried across the US to the central plains and east coast. Doesn't look like any fallout east of the southwestern US unless rain is bringing it down.
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good deal.. just left the west coast a month ago before TSHTF and let those goobers on the west coast go down with the ship.
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STFU fear mongering self obsessed attention whoring idiot.



you should be ashamed of yourself. granny
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Fear mongering? This person has the right attitude - she's trying to motivate people to stand up and defend their right to live, to do something about it rather than sit there wallowing in apathy.

If more people had this fighting spirit - the fortitude to defend what is right, even if it means going out of one's comfort zone - the world wouldn't have got to this point to begin with.

I live in the States - the Los Angeles area - and everything this girl has said about the US is true. She did the right thing here. In response, she gets labeled as a "whoring idiot" and is told to STFU.

Why am I not surprised?...

Reminds me of words by Cato The Elder:

"Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise."
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Rant all you want, OP, but the supposed facts don't fit the science. The charts indicate that the plume hasn't even reached the states, yet Americans keep posting that there's radiation in their milk or their fruit, or whatever. It doesn't matter. Until my government tells me I need to do something, there ain't much I need to do.

Idiots here on GLP keep posting that our government is doing this or lying about that. It's all a bunch of conspiracy THEORIES!!! There isn't one ounce of evidence that our country's leaders plan on committing suicide along with the rest of us. They have no desire to die any more than any of us peons do. If what you say is true, then once that plume comes over my state's capitol, I'll find NOBODY of any political importance, no senators, no representatives, not even my governor in town??? My capitol will be EMPTY??? Uh,..I don't think so. They don't wish to die of cancer either.

So,... have a nice day.

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You really need to get out more or read more or something....The radiation from this incident has spread across the Northern Hemisphere in just 2 weeks.
As far as waiting for the Govt. to advise you...good luck with that rofl
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dutch NON sense



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@ Anonymous Coward User ID: 1314053, thanks for the kind words..

Also

Found this thread about knowing where your milk comes from.. I guess this should be true of all the food you are consuming at the moment

Thread: Discover where your milk and dairy products come from
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@Rager..

You say you live in the now.. and my spiritual self agrees with living in the now absolutely, but tomorrow I have to eat.. tomorrow I have to have water, food, shelter to ensure that tomorrow at 11am I can be LIVING in the now..

Do you not balance your accounts? Pay your bills? Buy groceries for next week?..

Living in the now is a completely misunderstood concept. It is supposed to reflect that in this moment you appreciate what you have and you give thanks for it and you enjoy it. It does not mean ignoring your needs for tomorrow.

I do not suggest that anyone should embrace fear.. fear is no good to you.. but action, knowledge, determination to ensure the continuation of our species surely is an important trait to have as a human being ??
 Quoting: Enchanted Wanderer


Fear is a primal instinct that alerts us when danger is present. Without it, humanity would never have made it this far. There is a big difference between living in fear, vs. living in awareness. When we live in awareness, we can gather data & use that info to be pro-active in order to organize our lives in a way that best suits our survival & happiness.

Danger exists currently for our survival & is therefore appropriate for us to gather data, plan & prepare, how we will deal or cope with this threat. This is living in awareness, no fear.
 Quoting: ohhappydays


there is a difference between being vigilant and being paranoid. being paranoid is seeing something that looks bad and making it out to be worse than it really is. living a life of vigilance is looking at something and doing deeper research on it, to get a better understanding of what is going on. i choose the life of vigilance. i see what is going on, i understand what is going on, but im not going to base my life around all the bad things that are happening. in my honest opinion, the reason i try to downplay this situation is not because i believe it isn't a big deal, i KNOW its a big deal. it is because i think its hard to draw any conclusions on anything that happens because nobody has been through a crisis of this magnitude. we should all just stay tuned, and not worry until we have to. that doesn't mean you have to wait til the last minute, but remember that it is going to get worse if nobody acts now in japan. the japanese have proven they cant do anything about this. its bad now, yes, but it is going to get worse. be ready, mentally, but dont fear. be vigilant, observant, just stay tuned. nothing wrong with being informed, just don't use that information to create panic when panicking is never the answer.
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OP: Do you feel that the global elite caused the earthquake and large wave with their HAARP technology?
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Rager, I've been coming here since 2001. Your upset because important things are not getting pinned and you have to seek out the good stuff. Well get used to it, that has been the norm for a decade.

I guess I'm just not so lazy or easily detracted as to call people names and continuously condemn others opinions while I'm on their threads.
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STFU fear mongering self obsessed attention whoring idiot.



you should be ashamed of yourself. granny
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Fear mongering? This person has the right attitude - she's trying to motivate people to stand up and defend their right to live, to do something about it rather than sit there wallowing in apathy.

If more people had this fighting spirit - the fortitude to defend what is right, even if it means going out of one's comfort zone - the world wouldn't have got to this point to begin with.

I live in the States - the Los Angeles area - and everything this girl has said about the US is true. She did the right thing here. In response, she gets labeled as a "whoring idiot" and is told to STFU.

Why am I not surprised?...

Reminds me of words by Cato The Elder:

"Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314053



that' exactly what the OP is.

you think you can hide RADIOACTIVE NUCLEAR FALLOUT that causes cancer from the citizens of the USofA without them finding out about it?

i fucken doubt it.


and even if it is true, why the fuck are you on glp instead of purifying your food and water?

ppfft
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In response to those videos posted about Dutch... he isnt making up the plume covering the states.. he isnt making up HAARP either.. he is putting HIS opinion, theories, hypothosies and conclusions out there for people.

and btw.. Anyone can make a video and type a response like that.. if you want to show someone actually did it link the person.. if they are telling the truth they should be happy to be known.. its not a state secret she is sharing.. its shit about a youtuber.. wtf is she frightened the youtube squad will get her???

Ridiculous..

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