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Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible”

 
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Why is our government not warning our people? This is just crazy.
 Quoting: TKC


What else can we do? I live in Northern California. I can't afford to flee, I can't afford to do anything. We have no way of avoiding this. After all...if it's already in France...where is it not?

If they start warning people and people go crazy over it...then we're out of control during the midst of already heading towards death.
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Is the radiation in Costa Rica - Latin America?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1337667


. . . funny you should ask that question. Argentina isnot getting this that weare getting: I was at a different kind of store the other day and a lot of people were standing around looking at meat, and talking about it, and asking questions about it. It seems it was from Mexico.
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If you're body is subject to a much higher power than a little radiation then you've got nothing to worry about... How's your faith?

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It's going to suck when the only people left alive are some here from GLP and the ones stuck in prison behind several feet of concrete..
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Those dudes have not much choice in what they're fed...All the food to hot for sale? Where does it go?
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Maybe so. But they do drink tang right? HMMM..LOL
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I'm getting real tired of having psychopaths in charge of our countries and our future. They lie, steal, and make poor decisions on behalf of everybody - if given the chance.

Psychopaths got us to this point where we're facing this weird mix of threats: radiation hell, economic ruin, a coming ww3, and the possibility of absolute destruction.

Psychopaths don't have to be people, organizations like companies can behave this way - in fact the law requires them to do so!?

It seems the only possible hope is for the 'normal' people to temporarily create a large enough group of people that will act like a psychopath too, and then take them on?

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If you're body is subject to a much higher power than a little radiation then you've got nothing to worry about... How's your faith?

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nice hf
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I think you are overloading your brains on this and water distillation is the only thing that works, not reverse osmosis.

And faith with the physical body, get a life, you are crazy.
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Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible”
Says US west coast has 8-10 times more contamination


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Why is our government not warning our people? This is just crazy.
 Quoting: TKC


What else can we do? I live in Northern California. I can't afford to flee, I can't afford to do anything. We have no way of avoiding this. After all...if it's already in France...where is it not?

If they start warning people and people go crazy over it...then we're out of control during the midst of already heading towards death.
 Quoting: 40Head


Is the radiation in Costa Rica - Latin America?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1337667


. . . funny you should ask that question. Argentina isnot getting this that weare getting: I was at a different kind of store the other day and a lot of people were standing around looking at meat, and talking about it, and asking questions about it. It seems it was from Mexico.
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Good, thanks for the update. Isnt that where Paraguay is? Bush bought land there right?
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Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible”
Yes, avoid meat and fish which will be more contaminated than fruit,veg,nuts etc
Staples like potatoes will be safer than say lettuce at the start of all this.....


Adapt or die in 20-25 years time

Most of the uneducated and the poor will not change diet and will die as a consquence..........
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We are all dying already slowly every day. It's called part of life.
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I'm getting real tired of having psychopaths in charge of our countries and our future. They lie, steal, and make poor decisions on behalf of everybody - if given the chance.

Psychopaths got us to this point where we're facing this weird mix of threats: radiation hell, economic ruin, a coming ww3, and the possibility of absolute destruction.

Psychopaths don't have to be people, organizations like companies can behave this way - in fact the law requires them to do so!?

It seems the only possible hope is for the 'normal' people to temporarily create a large enough group of people that will act like a psychopath too, and then take them on?
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I think that may be what it takes.
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Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible”
Kyodo: Japan eyes raising level of #Fukushima nuke crisis to most severe.
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Have they now raised it to a level 7? About time, it should have been raised long before now.
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I'll bet this gets very little airtime on MSM in the US/Canada
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If the world is about to fall apart,or get hit by something,the radiation doesn't matter.Maybe thats why they haven't told us.Oh Shit
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I've thought about that too.. Which would also be why they are spending money like there is no tomorrow..because maybe there isn't.
 Quoting: TKC


I have thought this even before the Japan earthquake. The gov can somehow see the future (i.e. DARPA remote viewers etc)
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What else can we do? I live in Northern California. I can't afford to flee, I can't afford to do anything. We have no way of avoiding this. After all...if it's already in France...where is it not?

If they start warning people and people go crazy over it...then we're out of control during the midst of already heading towards death.
 Quoting: 40Head


Is the radiation in Costa Rica - Latin America?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1337667


. . . funny you should ask that question. Argentina isnot getting this that weare getting: I was at a different kind of store the other day and a lot of people were standing around looking at meat, and talking about it, and asking questions about it. It seems it was from Mexico.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335095


Good, thanks for the update. Isnt that where Paraguay is? Bush bought land there right?
 Quoting: TKC


Yeah, I'll bet lots of people "in the know" have conveniently-located vacation homes.

But, do we have more to fear from our panic-stricken, desperate-to-survive fellow man in a disaster?

Or, do THEY have more to fear from that?

It's either:

1. They know our fellow citizens too well, and know the panic that ensues will kill and de-stabillize.
2. They know something WORSE is coming, and we won't live long enought to suffer effects from the radiation.
3. They just want to get out of town first and then let the truth leak out.
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Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible”
Kyodo: Japan eyes raising level of #Fukushima nuke crisis to most severe.
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Have they now raised it to a level 7? About time, it should have been raised long before now.
 Quoting: Corkinway


I think they could have predicted this from the very beginning.
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Is the radiation in Costa Rica - Latin America?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1337667


. . . funny you should ask that question. Argentina isnot getting this that weare getting: I was at a different kind of store the other day and a lot of people were standing around looking at meat, and talking about it, and asking questions about it. It seems it was from Mexico.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335095


Good, thanks for the update. Isnt that where Paraguay is? Bush bought land there right?
 Quoting: TKC


Yeah, I'll bet lots of people "in the know" have conveniently-located vacation homes.

But, do we have more to fear from our panic-stricken, desperate-to-survive fellow man in a disaster?

Or, do THEY have more to fear from that?

It's either:

1. They know our fellow citizens too well, and know the panic that ensues will kill and de-stabillize.
2. They know something WORSE is coming, and we won't live long enought to suffer effects from the radiation.
3. They just want to get out of town first and then let the truth leak out.
 Quoting: jellybean224 967614


#1 is definitely true, but I'm going to go with #2 for the win. I'm thinking this may be it. All the players (minus all the Vanderbilts chasing goats or soemthing in India right now) are still around, living life like nothing is happening.
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Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible”
Says US west coast has 8-10 times more contamination


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Why is our government not warning our people? This is just crazy.
 Quoting: TKC


If you had the option to have millions of stupid people panicked or keep them distracted with Hollywood Drama, which would you choose?
 Quoting: Talamascaa


Just like my family, if I was in charge I would keep them informed, good or bad...then its up to them how they react. Honesty is always the best route.
 Quoting: TKC


A sweet sentiment, but also very dangerous. Panic stricken people usually do way more harm than good. People will kill/hurt others over food, cars to escape contaminated zones, etc. Then when they get to the "safe" areas with no money, they will have to harm/kill more people to survive.

I hate to say it, but if people want information, they need to seek it out for themselves. The uninformed may parish, but it's a smarter way to go then making this information mainstream.
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After our lord and master president obama came out weeks ago and said there would be no radiation threat they can't come out now and say there is. That would make him look stupid.
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Making him look stupid would be redundant. He needs no help.
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Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible”
IF all is truth about what we all hope that it is..
When that energy which will come and change our DNA comes, everyone who deserve this will have it changed no matter how sick from whatever they are. For those elites who will be in bunkers, I bet that some other circle generations will eat them in medicines or use them as fuel as we did such nards in our time with that stupid Oil stuff.
So, to conclude this> IF you think that you have pure hearth no worries anyway. If you think that you still dont have it...maybe you should think that it is good time to make it like that and prepare your nerve system for greater energy to come.

Just try to stay alive till that day...thats all.

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. . . funny you should ask that question. Argentina isnot getting this that weare getting: I was at a different kind of store the other day and a lot of people were standing around looking at meat, and talking about it, and asking questions about it. It seems it was from Mexico.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335095


Good, thanks for the update. Isnt that where Paraguay is? Bush bought land there right?
 Quoting: TKC


Yeah, I'll bet lots of people "in the know" have conveniently-located vacation homes.

But, do we have more to fear from our panic-stricken, desperate-to-survive fellow man in a disaster?

Or, do THEY have more to fear from that?

It's either:

1. They know our fellow citizens too well, and know the panic that ensues will kill and de-stabillize.
2. They know something WORSE is coming, and we won't live long enought to suffer effects from the radiation.
3. They just want to get out of town first and then let the truth leak out.
 Quoting: jellybean224 967614


#1 is definitely true, but I'm going to go with #2 for the win. I'm thinking this may be it. All the players (minus all the Vanderbilts chasing goats or soemthing in India right now) are still around, living life like nothing is happening.
 Quoting: irreverent


Honestly, this is the only thing that makes sense when you look at the reaction of the other govts on this planet. No one cares if we poison the Pacific, no one cares whether the leak stops right now or whenever Japan feels like it - it's incredible, the lack of concern.
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If radiation was bad, it would show up on www.radiationnetwork.com

Realize that - if you are in fear or angry, your immune system is suppressed.

Don't make it so easy for PTB.
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It's going to suck when the only people left alive are some here from GLP and the ones stuck in prison behind several feet of concrete..
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Those dudes have not much choice in what they're fed...All the food to hot for sale? Where does it go?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029725


Not to worry!

"Officials say that these elevated levels pose no immediate health threats and the EPA will raise allowable contaminant levels as necessary to ensure the public's safety"
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Good, thanks for the update. Isnt that where Paraguay is? Bush bought land there right?
 Quoting: TKC


Yeah, I'll bet lots of people "in the know" have conveniently-located vacation homes.

But, do we have more to fear from our panic-stricken, desperate-to-survive fellow man in a disaster?

Or, do THEY have more to fear from that?

It's either:

1. They know our fellow citizens too well, and know the panic that ensues will kill and de-stabillize.
2. They know something WORSE is coming, and we won't live long enought to suffer effects from the radiation.
3. They just want to get out of town first and then let the truth leak out.
 Quoting: jellybean224 967614


#1 is definitely true, but I'm going to go with #2 for the win. I'm thinking this may be it. All the players (minus all the Vanderbilts chasing goats or soemthing in India right now) are still around, living life like nothing is happening.
 Quoting: irreverent


Honestly, this is the only thing that makes sense when you look at the reaction of the other govts on this planet. No one cares if we poison the Pacific, no one cares whether the leak stops right now or whenever Japan feels like it - it's incredible, the lack of concern.
 Quoting: irreverent


I'm always haunted by this thing Dick Cheney said one day. He said "Haven't you heard? Deficits don't matter anymore." That was a few years ago, even before the bailouts. I always think about that, but I didn't have an idea what he meant until now.

I'm pretty sure the people in charge wouldn't ever warn us of something that was hopelessly dire, but I think they would slip up and drop hints.
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vietnam now finding uranium in pine needles.
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If radiation was bad, it would show up on www.radiationnetwork.com

Realize that - if you are in fear or angry, your immune system is suppressed.

Don't make it so easy for PTB.
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This is what we need to know right now:

1. What types of radiation are leaking from Japan?

2. Does a geiger-counter catch all of those types, or are different detectors required for each?

3. If 100 counts-per-minute is considered bad after only one day, which it is, what is the effect of, say 60 cpm's sustained over a long period of time?

How's about we start looking out for ourselves today? I can research question 1 and maybe some others can research the other questions? We can report back to this thread since it is appropriately titled.
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The radiation dispersion model puts more radiation over the UK than over France. If their conclusions are published then I dread to think what the levels in UK are right now. Nothing from out Government at all - neither of safety or of danger.
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If radiation was bad, it would show up on www.radiationnetwork.com

Realize that - if you are in fear or angry, your immune system is suppressed.

Don't make it so easy for PTB.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266396


This post is pure Bovine Excrement.

Whether intentional or not, it is disinformation. Background radiation isn't telling the story on bio-accumulation of radioactive nuclides.

Don't adapt a false sense of security.
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Geiger counters are used to detect ionizing radiation, usually beta particles and gamma rays, but certain models can detect alpha particles. An inert gas-filled tube (usually helium, neon or argon with halogens added) briefly conducts electricity when a particle or photon of radiation makes the gas conductive. The tube amplifies this conduction by a cascade effect and outputs a current pulse, which is then often displayed by a needle or lamp and/or audible clicks.
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The radiation dispersion model puts more radiation over the UK than over France. If their conclusions are published then I dread to think what the levels in UK are right now. Nothing from out Government at all - neither of safety or of danger.
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Yep, you are on your own, look at the numbers, the information and make as much of an informed decision, conclusion as possible.
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Who is this "WE"?
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Why is our government not warning our people? This is just crazy.
 Quoting: TKC


Wake up, people. It is COMPLETELY ON US AS INDIVIDUALS to be as proactive as possible, and try to convince family and friends to do the same. Limit your exposure. Don't count on the government. They don't give a shit if you live or die.
 Quoting: irreverent


I agree. You dont need bio suits to collect rain water if it is so safe. And if you need a bio suit in CA to collect the rain water, our kids certainly do not need to be out playing in it. To me this is criminal negligence to our citizens.
 Quoting: TKC


I've tried that, and I just can tell you that it's simply not in their mindset. Their brains just can't accept the reality cause their's is dictated by radio, tv and newspaper. Why do you think they invested to acquire ALL of those media to control them and by God it works.... We have a proof of that... Right!!!

iamwith too you know and find it flabbergasting sometimes...
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If you're body is subject to a much higher power than a little radiation then you've got nothing to worry about... How's your faith?

:mountains:
 Quoting: GUANO


My faith is soon to be highly radioactive!





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