Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1338270 United States 04/11/2011 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” People crack me up man! One minute, you all say you don't Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805477need no protection from your Gov, and the next everyone is wanting to file a lawsuit because they're not protecting you! So, what if they came out and said how bad things really are? OK, then what? How in the hell is that going to help anything? If it's in the rain, then it's in everything, and no amount of taking showers and scrubbing your ass with wire brush is going to take that away. So, everyone goes crazy buying up all of the iodide pills around, and don't have a clue what they're doing, and going to end up killing themselves anyway from an OD! And just what have you accomplished with that post of yours? You are just as valuable as teats on a boar hog. Fuck off. exactly. the jerk needs to really read up a little on iodine supplementation. people are not going to "od" on it. the jerk will wish he had tried to learn something about it one of these days instead of being such an uppity ass snob about it- thinking he is oh so much smarter. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1323236 United States 04/11/2011 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1336728You need to channel your ridiculous hate a little more constructively--blaming Obama? Really? He's probably not even in the loop on this stuff. And the former pres was 1000 times more incompetent. You should be criticizing the nuclear power industry, not some guy that came into the office 2 1/2 years ago. Nobody in the entire world was prepared for this, but the richies can run away--the rest of us can't. The republicans make us much poorer than the dems ever will, although, they are almost as bad. Drink your cool aid and... NO, the AC is correct. Gov't is supposed to protect the public. It is Obama's responsibility to be 'in the loop' and to take action. Obama is doing nothing and he will be the sole person responsible for any disease and death that comes this way from the Fukushima fallout. He is the fricken leader of the free world and the the sole super-power. He is responsible for his inaction and the cover-up occurring. i agree with you. he shows no leadership when it really counts. he acts clueless or maybe he just doesn't give a fuck. he is too busy swaggering around and posturing. Soetoro aka Obama does what he is allowed to do, nothing more. Bush did what he is allowed to do, nothing more. Until everyone realizes these guys are nothing but Elite Puppets that are like actors to the people then we are going to keep fighting over who was worse than the other. They are actors. Stop believing what you and I would do. The Elite will not allow any word from Obama, Bush UNLESS they allow it. Kennedy tried to talk a bit too much and he was laid six feet under. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1229907 United States 04/11/2011 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” The rem is used to discuss biological absorption of the radiation. Since the rem is actually a large unit: Quoting: jellybean224 9676141000 millirem = 1 rem source: [link to www.jlab.org] On converting cpm (the observed radiation) to rems (the absorbed radiation) I could only find this so far: Considering a background given count rate of about 200 cpm, the expected surficial (1st centimeter) dose-equilavent rate at 1000 cpm is therefore approximated to be 6E-6 rem/h. Note that this is the estimated dose rate in the first centimeter and that the 1-cm "deep" dose rate would be lower by about 20 percent. source: [link to www.hps.org] We need an expert to advise on this, because this text seems to suggest that when the background radiation detected from the geiger counter reaches 200 cpms, we would absorb MORE than the allowable limits for a year within one hour. So far, in West L.A., the cpm's range from 48-68. Seems like getting out of town at about 100 cpms would be a good idea. 1.6E-03 means 1.6 times negative ten to the power 3 The easy way is to move the decimal point the given number of places to the right or left. If the number is positive, move it to the right. If the number is negative, move to point to the left. here, the number is negative 3 so you would move the decimal point in 1.6 three places to the left, so it becomes: 0.0016 If the number wasn't negative but positive, i.e. if it was: 1.6E+03 then you would move the point three places to the right, so it becomes: 1600 What does scientific notation actually mean? E+03 means "times ten to the power 3" or 10 x 10 x 10 which is 1000 so 1.6E+03 means 1.6 x 1000 which is 1600 In your example, 1.6E-03 means 1.6 times NEGATIVE ten to the power of 3 or negative 10 x 10 x 10 i.e. negative 1000. so it means 1.6 x -1000 which is 0.0016 6E-6 would be about .000006 then? On converting cpm (the observed radiation) to rems (the absorbed radiation) I could only find this so far: Considering a background given count rate of about 200 cpm, the expected surficial (1st centimeter) dose-equilavent rate at 1000 cpm is therefore approximated to be 6E-6 rem/h (.000006/h). Note that this is the estimated dose rate in the first centimeter and that the 1-cm "deep" dose rate would be lower by about 20 percent. This could definitely mess up the DOOM a bit, sorry. LOL |
Miggy User ID: 1183962 United States 04/11/2011 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” But at least we have the internet to help us be prepared. Quoting: TKCDon't count on it now that Obama has control of the on/off switch. And I guarantee, he's GOING to use it at some point. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1126068 Canada 04/11/2011 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” Says US west coast has 8-10 times more contamination Quoting: TKC[link to enenews.com] Why is our government not warning our people? This is just crazy. Ok, so let's say they warn the people.... What can they do about it now, even with a warning? Can't un-ring a bell. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1093451 United States 04/11/2011 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” Says US west coast has 8-10 times more contamination Quoting: TKC[link to enenews.com] Why is our government not warning our people? This is just crazy. Well I don't know maybe because its bullshit from an Enviro extremist site? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1093451 United States 04/11/2011 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” Says US west coast has 8-10 times more contamination Quoting: TKC[link to enenews.com] Why is our government not warning our people? This is just crazy. Well I don't know maybe because its bullshit from an Enviro extremist site? [link to about.greenfacts.org] EurActiv has an original business model, based on five elements: corporate sponsoring, EurActor membership, advertising, EU projects, and content syndication. It is well funded and the content usage is free. The EurActiv web portal is firmly established as the favourite online platform for Brussels and national professionals in EU policies. It brings together journalistic independence with transparency and practical efficiency, complementing the existing EU media and institutional websites. EurActiv enjoys extensive political, NGO and press support. It is at the heart of the 'Community of EU Actors'. This 'Community' includes several thousand European organisations and companies, many of which are currently using EurActiv's services. EurActiv has extensive coverage in the areas of environment, sustainable development, health, science and research and other policies. It cooperates with GreenFacts through a close content partnership. GREEN |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1302957 United States 04/11/2011 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” The rem is used to discuss biological absorption of the radiation. Since the rem is actually a large unit: Quoting: jellybean224 9676141000 millirem = 1 rem source: [link to www.jlab.org] On converting cpm (the observed radiation) to rems (the absorbed radiation) I could only find this so far: Considering a background given count rate of about 200 cpm, the expected surficial (1st centimeter) dose-equilavent rate at 1000 cpm is therefore approximated to be 6E-6 rem/h. Note that this is the estimated dose rate in the first centimeter and that the 1-cm "deep" dose rate would be lower by about 20 percent. source: [link to www.hps.org] We need an expert to advise on this, because this text seems to suggest that when the background radiation detected from the geiger counter reaches 200 cpms, we would absorb MORE than the allowable limits for a year within one hour. So far, in West L.A., the cpm's range from 48-68. Seems like getting out of town at about 100 cpms would be a good idea. 1.6E-03 means 1.6 times negative ten to the power 3 The easy way is to move the decimal point the given number of places to the right or left. If the number is positive, move it to the right. If the number is negative, move to point to the left. here, the number is negative 3 so you would move the decimal point in 1.6 three places to the left, so it becomes: 0.0016 If the number wasn't negative but positive, i.e. if it was: 1.6E+03 then you would move the point three places to the right, so it becomes: 1600 What does scientific notation actually mean? E+03 means "times ten to the power 3" or 10 x 10 x 10 which is 1000 so 1.6E+03 means 1.6 x 1000 which is 1600 In your example, 1.6E-03 means 1.6 times NEGATIVE ten to the power of 3 or negative 10 x 10 x 10 i.e. negative 1000. so it means 1.6 x -1000 which is 0.0016 6E-6 would be about .000006 then? On converting cpm (the observed radiation) to rems (the absorbed radiation) I could only find this so far: Considering a background given count rate of about 200 cpm, the expected surficial (1st centimeter) dose-equilavent rate at 1000 cpm is therefore approximated to be 6E-6 rem/h (.000006/h). Note that this is the estimated dose rate in the first centimeter and that the 1-cm "deep" dose rate would be lower by about 20 percent. This could definitely mess up the DOOM a bit, sorry. LOL In the words of Will Ferrell/George W. Bush: "Math is very much a part of the Axis of Evil." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1100144 United States 04/11/2011 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” Says US west coast has 8-10 times more contamination Quoting: TKC[link to enenews.com] Why is our government not warning our people? This is just crazy. Well I don't know maybe because its bullshit from an Enviro extremist site? Hahaha ... you gotta wait until the Reichwing Drudge approves it. Go ahead, kiddies, eat your garden salad and tuna salad sandwich and wash it down with milk. Perhaps Darwin had a point after all. All that being said, maybe it's better to starve to death from fear of eating food with radiation? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1331447 United States 04/11/2011 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” I spoke with my brother in OK yesterday. I told him about radiation in PA water and radiation in Little Rock milk. I asked him what this tells him....His response...That its not here. I said yea your right it just skipped over Oklahoma on its way to PA and Little Rock. He said TV says all is fine, I told him to believe what he wants. He asked if I got my info from tv or internet. I said internet, then he said, Oh ok. He is a sheeple 100%. Geez he is sooooo stupid. Quoting: TKCSEND HIM THAT MAP that shows the fall out everywhere! My brother in the midwest is the very same way! lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1093451 United States 04/11/2011 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” Says US west coast has 8-10 times more contamination Quoting: TKC[link to enenews.com] Why is our government not warning our people? This is just crazy. Well I don't know maybe because its bullshit from an Enviro extremist site? Hahaha ... you gotta wait until the Reichwing Drudge approves it. Go ahead, kiddies, eat your garden salad and tuna salad sandwich and wash it down with milk. Perhaps Darwin had a point after all. All that being said, maybe it's better to starve to death from fear of eating food with radiation? The site quoted with reporting this has a close special little relationship with greenfacts.org. Is there anything else even needed to be said? euractiv.com is basically a propaganda site of the NWO. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1329014 United States 04/12/2011 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” SINCE THEY CANT FIX IT, STUFF IS JUST GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE OF THE RADIOACTIVE SHIT IN IT YET OUR GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO SAY EVERYTHING IS FINE.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1323485WELL EVERYTHING IS NOT FUCKING FINE... AND IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE! WHEN THE RAIN STARTS TO BURN YOUR SKIN AND YOU START GETTING SICK, WHAT WILL YOU BELIEVE THEN? THAT ITS OK TO DRINK THE RAINWATER? No its not ok the USA is being destroyed while obama worries about budget cuts. We need new leadership guys obama cannot handle emergency situations he ignores the problems and hopes it goes away by itself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1302957 United States 04/12/2011 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” SINCE THEY CANT FIX IT, STUFF IS JUST GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE OF THE RADIOACTIVE SHIT IN IT YET OUR GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO SAY EVERYTHING IS FINE.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1323485WELL EVERYTHING IS NOT FUCKING FINE... AND IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE! WHEN THE RAIN STARTS TO BURN YOUR SKIN AND YOU START GETTING SICK, WHAT WILL YOU BELIEVE THEN? THAT ITS OK TO DRINK THE RAINWATER? No its not ok the USA is being destroyed while obama worries about budget cuts. We need new leadership guys obama cannot handle emergency situations he ignores the problems and hopes it goes away by itself. HOPE! CHANGE! |
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BillyD User ID: 1341831 United States 04/14/2011 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” [link to bibledatabase.net] Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1337441 United States 04/14/2011 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” People crack me up man! One minute, you all say you don't Quoting: Anonymous Coward 805477need no protection from your Gov, and the next everyone is wanting to file a lawsuit because they're not protecting you! So, what if they came out and said how bad things really are? OK, then what? How in the hell is that going to help anything? If it's in the rain, then it's in everything, and no amount of taking showers and scrubbing your ass with wire brush is going to take that away. So, everyone goes crazy buying up all of the iodide pills around, and don't have a clue what they're doing, and going to end up killing themselves anyway from an OD! And just what have you accomplished with that post of yours? You are just as valuable as teats on a boar hog. Fuck off. There's plenty the govt can do! Have a look at Emerald Eye's thread on how to block rads and detox---The govt should be providing instructions on using these things and providing the supplements, too. |
BillyD User ID: 1341831 United States 04/14/2011 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” I am not a radiation dosimetry expert. Is it time to take the milk, lettuce and cream cheese away from the grandkids? It is not much about me. Anybody over 40 is too old to die from thyroid cancer. We just won't live long enough to develop the disease. Would it be advisable for dairy cattle to be kept in the barn and fed grain & stored hay; for the duration? Canned milk, powdered milk AND the long-shelf-life irradiated milk, may be much safer; for the duration. Are the peas safer than the green beans, for the little ones. Should pregnant women and nursing moms switch from their prenatal vitamins, that do not contain KI; to over the counter vitamins that do contain KI? Or should they take both? The FDA MAX RDA is about 9X the Min RDA for potassium iodide. |
BillyD User ID: 1341831 United States 04/15/2011 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” Is this a credible (nuclear) weather forecast? TODAY’S MOST VIEWED (VIDEO) [link to enenews.com] Cesium-137 forecast shows ‘near surface’ radiation cloud over Texas, Western US on April 15, 16 |
Miggy User ID: 1183962 United States 04/15/2011 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” Should pregnant women and nursing moms switch from their prenatal vitamins, that do not contain KI; to over the counter vitamins that do contain KI? Or should they take both? Quoting: BillyD""How terrible it will be for women who are pregnant or who are nursing babies in those days!" Matthew 24:19 |
BillyD User ID: 1341831 United States 04/16/2011 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” Some, such as the lovely and erudite constitutional lawyer Ann Coulter, are embracing the, somewhat dubious, positive ‘opportunities’ from this vast radioactive fallout duststorm. Perhaps Miss Coulter has been retained as counsel. [link to www.anncoulter.com] [link to www.anncoulter.com] Greetings, fellow participants in the 2nd Great Northern Hemisphere Hormesis (GNHH) experiment. Ann Coulter is our gracious host; while our proud sponsors are the General Electric Corporation (GE) and the Tokyo Elecric Power Company (TEPCO) Fukushima complex. GE “brings good things to life” and TEPCO, “emphasizing fine-tuned service, supports our comfortable lifestyle”. The 1st GNNH experiment was sponsored by the now defunct USSR at the Chernobyl, Ukraine plant. Those not wishing to participate are advised to relocate to Sydney, Santiago or Buenos Aires. Today, the GNHH experiment families are separating into two groups, the ‘Maximizer’ Team and the ‘Controller’ Team. Maximizers should drink the rainwater, eat plenty of large leaf vegetables, purchase free range chicken, drink plenty of milk, eat shallow water fish, enjoy the cream cheese, and avoid alcohol. Expectant and nursing mothers should take their prenatal vitamins, without iodine (KI). Controllers should double their normal RDA multivitamin/mineral intake, purchase grain-fed chicken, drink bottled or well water, select the sharp (aged) cheese, order the canned peas and select well aged red wines. Today, the Maximizers will be enjoying spinach and argula salad, borsht, oysters Rockefeller and the Kobe boeuf wellington with cream sauce. Maximizer desert dessert selections include cheesecake, cream puffs and berries in a rich cream sauce. Those insisting on alcohol will be served an excellent boujoule nouveau. The Controllers will select a main course of arroz con pollo, grouper or Argentinian-Style Beef with Chimichurri Sauce. Soup choices will consist of consommé and lentil. A cucumber and olive salad, generously sprinkled with Reggianito will be served. Our featured dessert is Brigadeiros served with Brazilian Daterra coffee. Our vast selection, of finely aged red wines, will enhance your dining experience. |
Saint Louis User ID: 1281184 United States 04/25/2011 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Independent French radiation commission warns Europe that health risk from Fukushima fallout is “no longer negligible” FUKUSHIMA Fallout FUKUSHIMA Fallout 2. Hatonn here to set your minds at ease. I assure you, the situation can and will be safely resolved and there will be NO long-term damage! At the moment, however, it’s a matter of containment. Our scientists are filtering into the minds of workers at the facility and off-site personnel what actions to take to prevent meltdown of the damaged reactors—they would call that filtration process their “ideas” or “inspirations.” Our small crew near the facility in conjunction with off-planet crews are reducing radiation to the extent possible and the technology on the ships is helping to minimize the reactors’ activity. |