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THE TWO WITNESSES OF REVELATION - Revealed!

 
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Really? You know that for a fact?

I strongly disagree......
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Yes it is in your Bible .

"These men have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want." Revelation 11:6

"These two prophets are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of all the earth. If anyone tries to harm them, fire flashes from their mouths and consumes their enemies. This is how anyone who tries to harm them must die. They have power to turn the rivers and oceans into blood, and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they wish." Revelation 11:4
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Do a study on the Olive Trees and Lampstands and find out who they are. They are not 2 specific people, they are groups of people, God's true followers.
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I know what they refer to . It still does not change the following verses I just posted .
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Yes, they are men, and they will prophesy and preform miracles. But they are not just 2 men, they are large groups of men, the 2 churches.
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Yes it is in your Bible .

"These men have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want." Revelation 11:6

"These two prophets are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of all the earth. If anyone tries to harm them, fire flashes from their mouths and consumes their enemies. This is how anyone who tries to harm them must die. They have power to turn the rivers and oceans into blood, and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they wish." Revelation 11:4
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351785


Do a study on the Olive Trees and Lampstands and find out who they are. They are not 2 specific people, they are groups of people, God's true followers.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I know what they refer to . It still does not change the following verses I just posted .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351785


Yes, they are men, and they will prophesy and preform miracles. But they are not just 2 men, they are large groups of men, the 2 churches.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


"But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses." Matthew 18:16 This is the meaning of the witnesses . They will testify against the world . We have to be very careful of what we are teaching .
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Do a study on the Olive Trees and Lampstands and find out who they are. They are not 2 specific people, they are groups of people, God's true followers.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I know what they refer to . It still does not change the following verses I just posted .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351785


Yes, they are men, and they will prophesy and preform miracles. But they are not just 2 men, they are large groups of men, the 2 churches.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


"But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses." Matthew 18:16 This is the meaning of the witnesses . They will testify against the world . We have to be very careful of what we are teaching .
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That's talking about members of the churches and settling disputes between brothers, which has nothing to do with the 2 witnesses of revelation.
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You know it's about time we had another two witnesses thread. We have to keep the pace at least one per month. This is such an interesting and provocative subject for the religiously mired/deluded/obsessed/deranged.
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I know what they refer to . It still does not change the following verses I just posted .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351785


Yes, they are men, and they will prophesy and preform miracles. But they are not just 2 men, they are large groups of men, the 2 churches.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


"But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses." Matthew 18:16 This is the meaning of the witnesses . They will testify against the world . We have to be very careful of what we are teaching .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351785


That's talking about members of the churches and settling disputes between brothers, which has nothing to do with the 2 witnesses of revelation.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



Numbers 35:30 Whoso killeth any person, the murderer shall be put to death by the mouth of witnesses: but one witness shall not testify against any person to cause him to die.

Deuteronomy 17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.


Here are some more . According to God's Law , there has to be 2 to 3 witnesses to testify against somebody and it will be the same with the 2 witnesses . God has ways of doing things and this will be the way it is done in the end .
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BTW Op, "Married" CHRISTMAS!!! When we do rise!!!

Rev. 11

And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
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Yes, they are men, and they will prophesy and preform miracles. But they are not just 2 men, they are large groups of men, the 2 churches.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


"But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses." Matthew 18:16 This is the meaning of the witnesses . They will testify against the world . We have to be very careful of what we are teaching .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351785


That's talking about members of the churches and settling disputes between brothers, which has nothing to do with the 2 witnesses of revelation.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



Numbers 35:30 Whoso killeth any person, the murderer shall be put to death by the mouth of witnesses: but one witness shall not testify against any person to cause him to die.

Deuteronomy 17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.


Here are some more . According to God's Law , there has to be 2 to 3 witnesses to testify against somebody and it will be the same with the 2 witnesses . God has ways of doing things and this will be the way it is done in the end .
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Ok AC, you and I just don't see this the same way. Let's agree to disagree on this.

hf
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BTW Op, "Married" CHRISTMAS!!! When we do rise!!!

Rev. 11

And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
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I don't understand your post?
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"But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses." Matthew 18:16 This is the meaning of the witnesses . They will testify against the world . We have to be very careful of what we are teaching .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351785


That's talking about members of the churches and settling disputes between brothers, which has nothing to do with the 2 witnesses of revelation.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



Numbers 35:30 Whoso killeth any person, the murderer shall be put to death by the mouth of witnesses: but one witness shall not testify against any person to cause him to die.

Deuteronomy 17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.


Here are some more . According to God's Law , there has to be 2 to 3 witnesses to testify against somebody and it will be the same with the 2 witnesses . God has ways of doing things and this will be the way it is done in the end .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351785


Ok AC, you and I just don't see this the same way. Let's agree to disagree on this.

hf
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Fair enough . Do not be deceived !!! peace
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That's talking about members of the churches and settling disputes between brothers, which has nothing to do with the 2 witnesses of revelation.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



Numbers 35:30 Whoso killeth any person, the murderer shall be put to death by the mouth of witnesses: but one witness shall not testify against any person to cause him to die.

Deuteronomy 17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.


Here are some more . According to God's Law , there has to be 2 to 3 witnesses to testify against somebody and it will be the same with the 2 witnesses . God has ways of doing things and this will be the way it is done in the end .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351785


Ok AC, you and I just don't see this the same way. Let's agree to disagree on this.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Fair enough . Do not be deceived !!! peace
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Peace and blessings to you to my friend!

hf
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I guess when we start seeing fire breathing folks we will have our answer...

Just hope to God I am not in the line of fire....

peace,
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LOl....I think that's symbolic too. Much of Revelation is symbolic.
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Whether one reads Revelation symbolically or literally, we must examine it to see if it is consistent with other scripture. Lets briefly look at the following;


REV 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.



These are not powers given to the church in any way. The church is called to be light and salt and a blessing, not a curse. The church is called to show forth the grace and mercy and Love of The LORD.

These 2 witnesses are demonstrating different attributes all together. Rather they have a very special purpose and different than the commission granted to the body of Christ.

JHMO,

peace.
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I"m going to hit the hay, good night friends!

hf
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I"m going to hit the hay, good night friends!

hf
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Good night . hf
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I love how people find away to interprete the Bible how they want it to read.

BS
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Did you watch the video?
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no I don't have time to watch it .
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It's only 5 minutes long! LOL!

afro
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I am very impatient .
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If there was a bottle of whiskey in it for you , you would not be so impatient you drunken mic bastard
A Psalm of David. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever. †.
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BTW Op, "Married" CHRISTMAS!!! When we do rise!!!

Rev. 11

And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
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I don't understand your post?
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"make merry, and shall send gifts"

The time of our rise aka "MARRIAGE" will be during this worlds pagan holiday, Called "christmas"....Been in my heart for years. We will become "ONE" in Christ.
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no I don't have time to watch it .
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It's only 5 minutes long! LOL!

afro
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I am very impatient .
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If there was a bottle of whiskey in it for you , you would not be so impatient you drunken mic bastard
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What a great Christian you are . putin You are the kind that gives us all a bad name . But I will let God defend me .
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The Bible clearly says MEN but

someone finds away to decide the Bible doesn't really mean men..

this is really getting ridiculous folks...

Pretty soon every WORD in the entire Bible will be reinterpreted...

What a load of BS

and I love how people fall right into it as well.


The world is ripe for the antichrist.

So many sheeple out there
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I guess when we start seeing fire breathing folks we will have our answer...

Just hope to God I am not in the line of fire....

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


LOl....I think that's symbolic too. Much of Revelation is symbolic.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



Whether one reads Revelation symbolically or literally, we must examine it to see if it is consistent with other scripture. Lets briefly look at the following;


REV 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.



These are not powers given to the church in any way. The church is called to be light and salt and a blessing, not a curse. The church is called to show forth the grace and mercy and Love of The LORD.

These 2 witnesses are demonstrating different attributes all together. Rather they have a very special purpose and different than the commission granted to the body of Christ.

JHMO,

peace.
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Anyways. I prayed on this and this is what was revealed to my spirit so I thought I would share.

Thanks again and have a good evening OP.

peace,
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What is the true church?
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What is the true church?
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I suppose only The Almighty knows the answer to that.

peace,
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What is the true church?
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Anyone "Truly" Spirit filled. They witnessed a great internal Blessing plus a "Knowing". "Many are called but few are chosen." Gods hand at work doing HIS WORK!!! Everything put into place by HIM!!! His call NOT OURS!!!!
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What is the true church?
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That's what I thought. Thanks to you and the post above for answering.

Anyone "Truly" Spirit filled. They witnessed a great internal Blessing plus a "Knowing". "Many are called but few are chosen." Gods hand at work doing HIS WORK!!! Everything put into place by HIM!!! His call NOT OURS!!!!
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What is the true church?
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That's what I thought. Thanks to you and the post above for answering.

Anyone "Truly" Spirit filled. They witnessed a great internal Blessing plus a "Knowing". "Many are called but few are chosen." Gods hand at work doing HIS WORK!!! Everything put into place by HIM!!! His call NOT OURS!!!!
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Your welcome...Have great night.
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 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I am a believer...I am a bibical scholar....this take has truth to it....
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I am a believer...I am a bibical scholar....this take has truth to it....
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I believe...I am a bibical scholar...I don't think this take has an ounce of truth to it...
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hf Good morning!
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The Olive tree IS Israel.

Gentile believers in Jesus are only ingrafted into the Holy root of Israel.

If the Olive Tree goes then ALL ISRAEL GOES.

You can't have the Gentiles engrafted into the olive tree and then go, they are only branches engrafted on until THE FULLNESS OF THE GENTILES IS FINISHED and Israel begins to belive in Jesus as their true mrssiah, then THEY the NATURAL BRANCHES will be RE-ENGRAFTED INTO THEIR NATURAL TREE.

If anything,


THE OLIVE TREE IS ISRAEL.
Revelation 1:7 "Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen."

Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
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ELIJAH AND MOSES ARE THE TWO WITNESSES.
Revelation 1:7 "Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen."

Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
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TWO WITNESSES





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