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David Wilkerson Died today in car crash (RIP)

 
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whats the difference between a priest and a trampoline?

you take of your shoes before you jump on a trampoline :)
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A priest shared a Wilkerson sermon on a Catholic forum recently, a very Christlike thing to do. A friend of mine
thinks the world of Wilkerson. I could never ask him, how
did Wilkerson feel about and treat his Catholic brothers
and sisters?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1358361


Does anyone know about his feelings toward Catholicism?
He sounds very beloved here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1358361


Having lived near Times Sq Church, tell u that many ex-Catholics were among his parishioners, especially the Spanish. He was zealous in that regard, but it seems that he had seen the water downing of Scripture so he would press his parishioners to evangelize everyone. other Protestants and Catholics. They were on the subways passing out literature, etc... So it can be misconstrued, yet i still stand by that he is a good man. RIP.
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Thank you.

Too bad Assemblies of God has such an anti-Catholic stance.
Maybe, in his heart Wilkerson was coming to the Truth.

I've read he recognized and preached against the falseness
of some of his brother preachers, the prosperity preachers.
And the way out there charismatic "fall down" revivals.
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Catholics...they are like Pagan Christians in name only aren't they? Their Priests live like the devil and their "Holy Father" covers up all their sinful action. I bet Jesus Christ is proud of this bunch of reprobates. Sounds to me that the Catholic Church was pure at one time, but now she has become the "Great whore" "By their fruits ye shall know them."


Yeah, the Pharisees also believed they were the "cat's meow" when it came to holding the keys of heaven, and I would bet most of them went straight to Hell.
 Quoting: Wingedlion



"Pure at one time"...another general statement. What
do you mean by that? Jesus established one Church, the RCC so you in a backhanded way are saying that WL?

Don't quote Scripture and be hypocritical brother. You
preach the Bible is inerrant. Ah, the RCC was pure when
she gave you the Bible.

And your accusations against the priesthood. Yes, some have
fallen but your make Our Lord cry accusing all of them. 1.5
have been accused, you righteously condemn them all. Have
you ever heard of the money made in these accusations, the
anti-Catholicism in the world which is the last prejudice and the secular lie of false memory? How will those falsely
accused be determined with that list against them?

You believe all the lies about the faith, you refuse to
listen to Catholic explain the faith. You are stuck.

Jesus gave Peter the "keys" a sign of authority. Peter was
leader of the Apostles and leader of the Church. Some
day soon, you will understand and accept Apostolic Succession, I hope and pray.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1358361





"To whom much is given, much shall be required." I do not accept any leadership that has unrepented blood on their hands. People are leaving the RCC in droves and for good reason. They too have a hard time placing their selves under the authority of leadership that indulges in outright sin. If you have the authority that you claim, then God Himself is ashamed of you, and it is you who will bear the full extent of His judgment, for "Judgment must first begin at the house of God..."
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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Catholics...they are like Pagan Christians in name only aren't they? Their Priests live like the devil and their "Holy Father" covers up all their sinful action. I bet Jesus Christ is proud of this bunch of reprobates. Sounds to me that the Catholic Church was pure at one time, but now she has become the "Great whore" "By their fruits ye shall know them."


Yeah, the Pharisees also believed they were the "cat's meow" when it came to holding the keys of heaven, and I would bet most of them went straight to Hell.
 Quoting: Wingedlion



"Pure at one time"...another general statement. What
do you mean by that? Jesus established one Church, the RCC so you in a backhanded way are saying that WL?

Don't quote Scripture and be hypocritical brother. You
preach the Bible is inerrant. Ah, the RCC was pure when
she gave you the Bible.

And your accusations against the priesthood. Yes, some have
fallen but your make Our Lord cry accusing all of them. 1.5
have been accused, you righteously condemn them all. Have
you ever heard of the money made in these accusations, the
anti-Catholicism in the world which is the last prejudice and the secular lie of false memory? How will those falsely
accused be determined with that list against them?

You believe all the lies about the faith, you refuse to
listen to Catholic explain the faith. You are stuck.

Jesus gave Peter the "keys" a sign of authority. Peter was
leader of the Apostles and leader of the Church. Some
day soon, you will understand and accept Apostolic Succession, I hope and pray.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1358361





"To whom much is given, much shall be required."
I do not accept any leadership that has unrepented blood on their hands. People are leaving the RCC in droves and for good reason. They too have a hard time placing their selves under the authority of leadership that indulges in outright sin. If you have the authority that you claim, then God Himself is ashamed of you, and it is you who will bear the full extent of His judgment, for "Judgment must first begin at the house of God..."
 Quoting: Wingedlion


"Men" are sinners, it doesn't make the Church unholy. You
have to be able to see that, I have this feeling you do. You didn't come back and say "no" the Church did not give the world the Bible.

I was made light of for saying "God wants you to be Roman Catholic" Wingedlion. I mean it! Why do you think the prophesied "awakening" as you Protestants hear it is going to happen? You are aware what Catholics know it as..the Great Warning. This event is a worldwide Pentecost. It will be miraculous, life changing, souls will be saved in numbers on the grandest level.

Don't worry about the Catholicism you question, look only to the Eucharist, it is the pinnacle. Believe in the Eucharist and you will make it through. You'll be shown it is true in the Great Warning but what is coming after will be the anti-Christ and his attempt to destroy the Church. Evil will say the Eucharist is only a symbol. And those who are anti-Catholic will think they have been correct but they will be wrong. They must remember they were shown this in their personal Great Warning experience...I hope and pray.

It is the evil one's plan, the 'abomination of desolation', when the sacrifice is discontinued in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. God will allow it only for a short time, letting those who have denied Christ's presence in the Eucharist to believe the lie. Don't be one of them, see it is the Truth from the beginning.

Proof, 1 Corinthians, Chapter 11. The first time Eucharist is used, the Greek word Eucharistia means giving thanks. And Paul states a few verses later, if you fail to discern it is the "body" of Our Lord, you bring judgment on yourself
in 1 Corinthians 11:29.




1 Corinthians 11:24
And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me.
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Catholics...they are like Pagan Christians in name only aren't they? Their Priests live like the devil and their "Holy Father" covers up all their sinful action. I bet Jesus Christ is proud of this bunch of reprobates. Sounds to me that the Catholic Church was pure at one time, but now she has become the "Great whore" "By their fruits ye shall know them."


Yeah, the Pharisees also believed they were the "cat's meow" when it came to holding the keys of heaven, and I would bet most of them went straight to Hell.
 Quoting: Wingedlion



"Pure at one time"...another general statement. What
do you mean by that? Jesus established one Church, the RCC so you in a backhanded way are saying that WL?

Don't quote Scripture and be hypocritical brother. You
preach the Bible is inerrant. Ah, the RCC was pure when
she gave you the Bible.

And your accusations against the priesthood. Yes, some have
fallen but your make Our Lord cry accusing all of them. 1.5
have been accused, you righteously condemn them all. Have
you ever heard of the money made in these accusations, the
anti-Catholicism in the world which is the last prejudice and the secular lie of false memory? How will those falsely
accused be determined with that list against them?

You believe all the lies about the faith, you refuse to
listen to Catholic explain the faith. You are stuck.

Jesus gave Peter the "keys" a sign of authority. Peter was
leader of the Apostles and leader of the Church. Some
day soon, you will understand and accept Apostolic Succession, I hope and pray.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1358361





"To whom much is given, much shall be required."
I do not accept any leadership that has unrepented blood on their hands. People are leaving the RCC in droves and for good reason. They too have a hard time placing their selves under the authority of leadership that indulges in outright sin. If you have the authority that you claim, then God Himself is ashamed of you, and it is you who will bear the full extent of His judgment, for "Judgment must first begin at the house of God..."
 Quoting: Wingedlion


"Men" are sinners, it doesn't make the Church unholy. You
have to be able to see that, I have this feeling you do. You didn't come back and say "no" the Church did not give the world the Bible.

I was made light of for saying "God wants you to be Roman Catholic" Wingedlion. I mean it! Why do you think the prophesied "awakening" as you Protestants hear it is going to happen? You are aware what Catholics know it as..the Great Warning. This event is a worldwide Pentecost. It will be miraculous, life changing, souls will be saved in numbers on the grandest level.

Don't worry about the Catholicism you question, look only to the Eucharist, it is the pinnacle. Believe in the Eucharist and you will make it through. You'll be shown it is true in the Great Warning but what is coming after will be the anti-Christ and his attempt to destroy the Church. Evil will say the Eucharist is only a symbol. And those who are anti-Catholic will think they have been correct but they will be wrong. They must remember they were shown this in their personal Great Warning experience...I hope and pray.

It is the evil one's plan, the 'abomination of desolation', when the sacrifice is discontinued in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. God will allow it only for a short time, letting those who have denied Christ's presence in the Eucharist to believe the lie. Don't be one of them, see it is the Truth from the beginning.

Proof, 1 Corinthians, Chapter 11. The first time Eucharist is used, the Greek word Eucharistia means giving thanks. And Paul states a few verses later, if you fail to discern it is the "body" of Our Lord, you bring judgment on yourself
in 1 Corinthians 11:29.




1 Corinthians 11:24
And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1358361



The Catholic Church became an easy target for Infiltration even before Constantine embraced this Pagan form of Christianity.And during the dark ages, the RCC showed it's true colors by looting and killing whole families of those they deemed as "heretics". Most of those were pure Christians that loved the Lord and did not agree with the Churches policy to sell indulgences to the royal families so that they could go a whoring and killing and murdering all in the name of God and get into heaven.

I suggest you take a good history lesson and find out for yourself that there are very good reasons why the Protestant reformation took place. God will not allow a profane Leadership to hold His power, and today the RCC is the most powerless institution on the earth and now is known, not for their holiness, but for perversion, murder, and all manner of evil. I will not be a part of the RCC evil and I will not be a part of the innocent blood that goes unrepented of. As for me and my house, we shall serve the Lord.
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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Thank God.
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Amen.
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Amen-Ra
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you lucie scum bags lose in the end!!!

5a5a
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Yeppers, it's not a happy ending for you Satan lovers.
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This forum has been hijacked by religitards
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It was started by someone that cares.
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WOW! Seems God is gathering His Warriors in advance of the fight! Personally, I felt a little better knowing he was down here with us. Now...not so much. He will be missed!

tissue
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yes...

Look for what DW said to come to pass in short order...

Especially his prophecy of a massive EQ in America that would follow the Japanese one.
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Yes he did! And I agree with another post on here that God seems to be taking many of His home now. My sister-in-law is an example of that too. She was hit by a car when she was 6 and severely brain damaged. My inlaws took care of her the rest of her life (to age 53) and she was truly an angel that touched many, many lives with her sweet spirit. She passed away just 3 weeks ago in her sleep, her poor little body just worn out. I felt that day that God was taking His special ones home before things get really, really ugly.

LISTEN UP UNBELIEVERS! REPENT, THERE ISN'T MUCH TIME!
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Don't get mad but this is my take on the guy. I never liked him or found any ring of truth to his message. It always sounded like a dead replay of other messges. Then I have spoken to some of his emmissaries and was not impressed.

One was a nice teenage boy who was actaully very far from Times Square Church in another state, proseltyzing for Teen Challenge at the exit of a supermarket. I took some time to speak with him. My impression is that Teen Challenge gets kids who are hooked on drugs hooked on the cult of Wilkerson instead. I told the kid this and he did not agree but he thanked me for my input.

Then I met a guy who was infiltrating another church as part of the worship team. He was very friendly at first but then was kind of arrogant and aloof when I was not buying the Wilkerson's way is best line. He said he was there under the auspices of Times Square Church in order to spread that message.

To me this is just creepy. I think Wilkerson was very creepy. His church is very creepy. The way he died is very creepy.

I see it as a sign that false prophets will not be tolerated forever.

I also find it extremely strange that you can never find one bad thing about him on the Net. I have heard plenty but never on the Net. Usually no matter who you are, good or bad, there is always some criticism on the Web but not for this guy or his corny church. He seems very NWO to me.
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Sounded like a good man seems like he really loved the lord.
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I just don't have to words to express how I feel. I am overwhelmed with emotion. I heard David many times in person and his Cross and the Switchblade story will forever be seared into my mind. This world has lost an advocate. The world is now more cynical and it doesn't even realize the loss. In a world where the televangelist wolves prey upon the sheep and make a mockery of the ministry of God, David was a shining example of humility and compassion.

I am sure he is before his Master who is saying "Well done, thy good and faithful servant."
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bump
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I don't know about any of the rest of you (Christians)...., But, I am am taking David's death as a harbinger.

REALLY bad things coming...quickly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1360251



As soon as I read it, I felt the same way.whistle
 Quoting: Angel Helper


SAME HERE:

HIS PASSING IS A MARKER

here is his last post, just before he was killed

To those going through the valley and shadow of death, hear this word: Weeping will last through some dark, awful nights—and in that darkness you will soon hear the Father whisper, “I am with you. I cannot tell you why right now, but one day it will all make sense. You will see it was all part of my plan. It was no accident. It was no failure on your part. Hold fast. Let me embrace you in your hour of pain.”
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I just don't have to words to express how I feel. I am overwhelmed with emotion. I heard David many times in person and his Cross and the Switchblade story will forever be seared into my mind. This world has lost an advocate. The world is now more cynical and it doesn't even realize the loss. In a world where the televangelist wolves prey upon the sheep and make a mockery of the ministry of God, David was a shining example of humility and compassion.

I am sure he is before his Master who is saying "Well done, thy good and faithful servant."
 Quoting: John Nash


bump
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whoops - left out the website

[link to bannerministries.wordpress.com]

To those going through the valley and shadow of death, hear this word: Weeping will last through some dark, awful nights—and in that darkness you will soon hear the Father whisper, “I am with you. I cannot tell you why right now, but one day it will all make sense. You will see it was all part of my plan.
It was no accident. It was no failure on your part. Hold fast. Let me embrace you in your hour of pain.”
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Thread: David Wilkersons death is a sign to America

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I think this guy was a phoney and a charlatan. I don't believe the story that his holy nature turned a gang memeber who wanted to kill him to Christ. I think maybe he put a spell on the guy.

He seems to like to recruit gang members, drug addicts especially teenage, and the Catholic Hispanic immigrants. All of these people are used to enslaving themselves to an earthly power, whether is be drugs, a gang leader or Catholic dogma.

I doubt he has any success with thinking or actually religious Christians and Jews.

There are usually plenty of churches around where gangs operate. It doesn't seem to bother them at all. I don't know why it would bother them when David Wilkerson spoke. His message is like the muzak of the word.

I think he is one of the most easily ignorable people. You really have to be lured into some aspect of his charisma to care what he says.

You always hear Christians praising him. Maybe they are just in his recruitment network. Every time I checked him out, I got disgusted.
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My sympathies to the Wilkerson family.

I used to receive David Wilkerson's newsletters in the mail years ago. He was a very prophetic preacher. I once hitchhiked from Iowa to New York to visit his church on 51st and Broadway. I have read two or three or his books.

"The Prophet"

[link to tim-shey.blogspot.com]

"Some Great Quotes"

[link to tim-shey.blogspot.com]
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RIP

"The Cross and the Switchblade" had a profound effect on my life. Rest in Peace.





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I just started reading that book last night. It's pretty good so far!
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David Wilkerson's tragic death within less than 48 hours after the numerous and MASSIVE KILLER tornadoes.........God's judgement on America has begun!
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It is more than just "ironic" or "coincidental" that Mr. Wilkerson passed into the Lord's arms at this very time.

You see, he wrote a book awhile back, that predicted that the US dollar would collapse.. and soon.

Do you see the Irony yet? The US dollar is on life support and could crash any day.

Wilkerson prayed and pleaded with his readers that the US would repent and get out of the miry depths of sin or else God would judge the US by destroying the Dollar. He heard from God alright, and now his book is coming to fruition.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253484


In 1974 Wilkerson wrote his iconic "Visions" which have all come to pass, with more surely to come in the immediate future. His accurate warning and preparations to his congregation the month before 911 would NOT have gone by unnoted by the occult elite.

His 2009 warning of 'wrath of God' sounds like he may have been foretelling arrival of Wormwood. That alone may have been a reason for elite to have him assassinated ala Diana and others in their usual 'car accident'. Now the flock will have no one to guide and discern them through Tribulation and arrival of Antichrist. Many will thus be let astray. This is HIGHLY suspicious and open to categorizing as Christian martyrs being killed for their faith in End Times Revelation.
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It is more than just "ironic" or "coincidental" that Mr. Wilkerson passed into the Lord's arms at this very time.

You see, he wrote a book awhile back, that predicted that the US dollar would collapse.. and soon.

Do you see the Irony yet? The US dollar is on life support and could crash any day.

Wilkerson prayed and pleaded with his readers that the US would repent and get out of the miry depths of sin or else God would judge the US by destroying the Dollar. He heard from God alright, and now his book is coming to fruition.

[link to www.tscpulpitseries.org]
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Here is an exerpt from the last blog by David Wilkerson:

Here is the text of Wilkerson’s last blog post on David Wilkerson Today. It was posted on April 27, just hours before a head on collision that took his life:

............“Someone has come to the place of hopelessness—the end of hope—the end of all means. A loved one is facing death and doctors give no hope. Death seems inevitable. Hope is gone. The miracle prayed for is not happening.

This man is considered by most as being a PROPHETIC man of God. His last words will also prove prophetic to America, and the world.


HOPE IS GONE
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"Pure at one time"...another general statement. What
do you mean by that? Jesus established one Church, the RCC so you in a backhanded way are saying that WL?

Don't quote Scripture and be hypocritical brother. You
preach the Bible is inerrant. Ah, the RCC was pure when
she gave you the Bible.

And your accusations against the priesthood. Yes, some have
fallen but your make Our Lord cry accusing all of them. 1.5
have been accused, you righteously condemn them all. Have
you ever heard of the money made in these accusations, the
anti-Catholicism in the world which is the last prejudice and the secular lie of false memory? How will those falsely
accused be determined with that list against them?

You believe all the lies about the faith, you refuse to
listen to Catholic explain the faith. You are stuck.

Jesus gave Peter the "keys" a sign of authority. Peter was
leader of the Apostles and leader of the Church. Some
day soon, you will understand and accept Apostolic Succession, I hope and pray.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1358361





"To whom much is given, much shall be required."
I do not accept any leadership that has unrepented blood on their hands. People are leaving the RCC in droves and for good reason. They too have a hard time placing their selves under the authority of leadership that indulges in outright sin. If you have the authority that you claim, then God Himself is ashamed of you, and it is you who will bear the full extent of His judgment, for "Judgment must first begin at the house of God..."
 Quoting: Wingedlion


"Men" are sinners, it doesn't make the Church unholy. You
have to be able to see that, I have this feeling you do. You didn't come back and say "no" the Church did not give the world the Bible.

I was made light of for saying "God wants you to be Roman Catholic" Wingedlion. I mean it! Why do you think the prophesied "awakening" as you Protestants hear it is going to happen? You are aware what Catholics know it as..the Great Warning. This event is a worldwide Pentecost. It will be miraculous, life changing, souls will be saved in numbers on the grandest level.

Don't worry about the Catholicism you question, look only to the Eucharist, it is the pinnacle. Believe in the Eucharist and you will make it through. You'll be shown it is true in the Great Warning but what is coming after will be the anti-Christ and his attempt to destroy the Church. Evil will say the Eucharist is only a symbol. And those who are anti-Catholic will think they have been correct but they will be wrong. They must remember they were shown this in their personal Great Warning experience...I hope and pray.

It is the evil one's plan, the 'abomination of desolation', when the sacrifice is discontinued in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. God will allow it only for a short time, letting those who have denied Christ's presence in the Eucharist to believe the lie. Don't be one of them, see it is the Truth from the beginning.

Proof, 1 Corinthians, Chapter 11. The first time Eucharist is used, the Greek word Eucharistia means giving thanks. And Paul states a few verses later, if you fail to discern it is the "body" of Our Lord, you bring judgment on yourself
in 1 Corinthians 11:29.




1 Corinthians 11:24
And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1358361



The Catholic Church became an easy target for Infiltration even before Constantine embraced this Pagan form of Christianity.And during the dark ages, the RCC showed it's true colors by looting and killing whole families of those they deemed as "heretics". Most of those were pure Christians that loved the Lord and did not agree with the Churches policy to sell indulgences to the royal families so that they could go a whoring and killing and murdering all in the name of God and get into heaven.

I suggest you take a good history lesson and find out for yourself that there are very good reasons why the Protestant reformation took place. God will not allow a profane Leadership to hold His power, and today the RCC is the most powerless institution on the earth and now is known, not for their holiness, but for perversion, murder, and all manner of evil. I will not be a part of the RCC evil and I will not be a part of the innocent blood that goes unrepented of. As for me and my house, we shall serve the Lord.
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"Very good reasons" for the Protestant revolt. I don't
think so and you shared the reason. Crazy Luther threw
away everything, because of pride, to protest the misuse of "indulgences." The misuse of "indulgences" was corrected
at Trent.

You're repeating yourself WL, the bolded, come up with something new.

And your paragraph, covering Christian history. That one figure, had to have one name at least so you all use the same -Constantine.- Ridiculous to use, Constantine has a Catholic background. And Christians aren't "Pagans", you meant Catholics. Constantine ended the persecution of Catholics, the first Christians. It's like another, stating the RCC is not the true Church while including one of the early Roman Catholic Councils, ie Nicea.??

Some thought though, you profess your only authority,
the Bible is inerrant so your account, a single paragraph to cover 15 centuries of history states that the Church fell "after" she canonized Scripture.

Sharing more than one name and all are Catholic councils
plus dates...in brief.


How the Canon of the Bible (the official catalog of inspired books) was officially declared. All books that were considered for the Cannon, but not included were called Apocrypha, and thus declared not inspired.

362 A.D.
Catholic Church's Council of Rome defines the Canon of Holy Scripture.
382 Pope Damasus issues a listing of the present OT and NT Canon of 73 books
383 Saint Jerome translates the Latin Vulgate from Greek & Hebrew
393 Council of Hippo (North Africa) approves the present Canon of 73 books
397 Council of Constantinople produces first bound Bible (the Vulgate: previously, all
were separate books)
397 Council of Carthage (North Africa) approves the same OT and NT canon


This is new I'll have to say but not true.

"God will not allow a profane Leadership to hold His power, and today the RCC is the most powerless institution on the earth"...

Our Lord said in the Gospel of Matthew Satan will not take down My Church. It is true, she is protected by God. The RCC still stands, now 2000 years professing the same as the Apostles were taught and passed down. If the Church is no bother, powerless, why do you attack her in this thread? You shouldn't be threatened. Why the daily threads, same old mocking protests and ridicule said about the Church? Everyone knows why.

I still have hope for you, you didn't speak of but you didn't reject the Real Presence. Why don't you talk to daughter about the Holy Eucharist. She could help you, you are friends.

God wants you to be Roman Catholic, He is going to show
you personally.
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Don't get mad but this is my take on the guy. I never liked him or found any ring of truth to his message. It always sounded like a dead replay of other messges. Then I have spoken to some of his emmissaries and was not impressed.

One was a nice teenage boy who was actaully very far from Times Square Church in another state, proseltyzing for Teen Challenge at the exit of a supermarket. I took some time to speak with him. My impression is that Teen Challenge gets kids who are hooked on drugs hooked on the cult of Wilkerson instead. I told the kid this and he did not agree but he thanked me for my input.

Then I met a guy who was infiltrating another church as part of the worship team. He was very friendly at first but then was kind of arrogant and aloof when I was not buying the Wilkerson's way is best line. He said he was there under the auspices of Times Square Church in order to spread that message.

To me this is just creepy. I think Wilkerson was very creepy. His church is very creepy. The way he died is very creepy.

I see it as a sign that false prophets will not be tolerated forever.

I also find it extremely strange that you can never find one bad thing about him on the Net. I have heard plenty but never on the Net. Usually no matter who you are, good or bad, there is always some criticism on the Web but not for this guy or his corny church. He seems very NWO to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292002

Thats a lot of accusations without a shred of evidence, unless hearsay without any sources whatsoever is considered evidence. I am a witness of the Lord that David Wilkerson is a child of God and was a prophet of the Lord. DW's evidence is the Lord's fruit that He produced in his life. Such as all the people who were delivered from drugs alcohol as well as severe demon possession wich my eyes witnessed. And all the prophecies that the Lord gave him. The Lord also revealed to him that His church was apostate. From a blogger; DOUG says:
April 28, 2011 at 11:13 am

Wilkerson believed that in April 1973 he received a vision regarding the future of the United States and subsequently gave a sermon on the vision and published a book called The Vision. He has said that God revealed to him a great calamity which was going to befall America due to increase in sins such as homosexuality, sexual promiscuity, and greed.

Some of the details of this reputed vision were:

“Worldwide recession caused by economic confusion”
“At most a few more fat flourishing years, and then an economic recession that’s going to affect the life style of every wage-earner in the world. The world economists are going to be at loss to explain what’s happening. It’s going to start in Europe, spread to Japan and finally to the United States.”
There will be a move toward a worldwide, unified monetary system. The US dollar will be hit bad and it will take years for it to recover.
The only real security will be in real estate (until a somewhat later stage, at which point this apparent security will also disappear).
“Nature having labor pains”
Environmentalists will come under heavy criticism.
There will be major earthquakes.
There will be a major famine.
Floods, hurricanes and tornadoes will increase in frequency.
“A new kind of cosmic storm appearing as a raging fire in the sky leaving a kind of vapor trail.”[4]
“A flood of filth and a baptism of dirt in America”
Topless women will appear on television, followed by full nudity.
Adult, X rated movies will be shown on cable television. Young people will gather at homes to watch this kind of material in groups.
Sex and the occult will be mixed.
There will be an acceptance of homosexuality, and the church will even say that it is a God-given gift.
“Rebellion in the home”
“I see the new number one youth problem in America and the world as hatred towards parents.”[4]
“A persecution madness against truly Spirit filled Christians who love Jesus Christ”
There will arise a world church consisting of a union between liberal ecumenical Protestants and the Roman Catholic Church, using Christ in name only.
There will be a hate Christ movement.
There will be a spiritual awakening behind the Iron and Bamboo Curtains.
Others
There will be another wave of riots.
There will be a fall in moral conduct.
There will be a new drug that will be popular with teenagers that will break down resistance and will encourage sexual activity.
Homosexual and lesbian ministers will be ordained and this will be heralded as a new breed of pioneer.
There will be nude dancing in church, but this will never be widespread.
There will be occult practices in churches.
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Don't get mad but this is my take on the guy. I never liked him or found any ring of truth to his message. It always sounded like a dead replay of other messges. Then I have spoken to some of his emmissaries and was not impressed.

One was a nice teenage boy who was actaully very far from Times Square Church in another state, proseltyzing for Teen Challenge at the exit of a supermarket. I took some time to speak with him. My impression is that Teen Challenge gets kids who are hooked on drugs hooked on the cult of Wilkerson instead. I told the kid this and he did not agree but he thanked me for my input.

Then I met a guy who was infiltrating another church as part of the worship team. He was very friendly at first but then was kind of arrogant and aloof when I was not buying the Wilkerson's way is best line. He said he was there under the auspices of Times Square Church in order to spread that message.

To me this is just creepy. I think Wilkerson was very creepy. His church is very creepy. The way he died is very creepy.

I see it as a sign that false prophets will not be tolerated forever.

I also find it extremely strange that you can never find one bad thing about him on the Net. I have heard plenty but never on the Net. Usually no matter who you are, good or bad, there is always some criticism on the Web but not for this guy or his corny church. He seems very NWO to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292002

Thats a lot of accusations without a shred of evidence, unless hearsay without any sources whatsoever is considered evidence. I am a witness of the Lord that David Wilkerson is a child of God and was a prophet of the Lord. DW's evidence is the Lord's fruit that He produced in his life. Such as all the people who were delivered from drugs alcohol as well as severe demon possession wich my eyes witnessed. And all the prophecies that the Lord gave him. The Lord also revealed to him that His church was apostate. From a blogger; DOUG says:
April 28, 2011 at 11:13 am

Wilkerson believed that in April 1973 he received a vision regarding the future of the United States and subsequently gave a sermon on the vision and published a book called The Vision. He has said that God revealed to him a great calamity which was going to befall America due to increase in sins such as homosexuality, sexual promiscuity, and greed.

Some of the details of this reputed vision were:

“Worldwide recession caused by economic confusion”
“At most a few more fat flourishing years, and then an economic recession that’s going to affect the life style of every wage-earner in the world. The world economists are going to be at loss to explain what’s happening. It’s going to start in Europe, spread to Japan and finally to the United States.”
There will be a move toward a worldwide, unified monetary system. The US dollar will be hit bad and it will take years for it to recover.
The only real security will be in real estate (until a somewhat later stage, at which point this apparent security will also disappear).
“Nature having labor pains”
Environmentalists will come under heavy criticism.
There will be major earthquakes.
There will be a major famine.
Floods, hurricanes and tornadoes will increase in frequency.
“A new kind of cosmic storm appearing as a raging fire in the sky leaving a kind of vapor trail.”[4]
“A flood of filth and a baptism of dirt in America”
Topless women will appear on television, followed by full nudity.
Adult, X rated movies will be shown on cable television. Young people will gather at homes to watch this kind of material in groups.
Sex and the occult will be mixed.
There will be an acceptance of homosexuality, and the church will even say that it is a God-given gift.
“Rebellion in the home”
“I see the new number one youth problem in America and the world as hatred towards parents.”[4]
“A persecution madness against truly Spirit filled Christians who love Jesus Christ”
There will arise a world church consisting of a union between liberal ecumenical Protestants and the Roman Catholic Church, using Christ in name only.
There will be a hate Christ movement.
There will be a spiritual awakening behind the Iron and Bamboo Curtains.
Others
There will be another wave of riots.
There will be a fall in moral conduct.
There will be a new drug that will be popular with teenagers that will break down resistance and will encourage sexual activity.
Homosexual and lesbian ministers will be ordained and this will be heralded as a new breed of pioneer.
There will be nude dancing in church, but this will never be widespread.
There will be occult practices in churches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 899152


I just finished reading that book a few days ago, it was incredible. Just exactly like the world is today and it was written a long time ago.
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Thats a lot of accusations without a shred of evidence, unless hearsay without any sources whatsoever is considered evidence. I am a witness of the Lord that David Wilkerson is a child of God and was a prophet of the Lord. DW's evidence is the Lord's fruit that He produced in his life. Such as all the people who were delivered from drugs alcohol as well as severe demon possession wich my eyes witnessed. And all the prophecies that the Lord gave him. The Lord also revealed to him that His church was apostate. From a blogger; DOUG says:
April 28, 2011 at 11:13 am

Wilkerson believed that in April 1973 he received a vision regarding the future of the United States and subsequently gave a sermon on the vision and published a book called The Vision. He has said that God revealed to him a great calamity which was going to befall America due to increase in sins such as homosexuality, sexual promiscuity, and greed.

Some of the details of this reputed vision were:

“Worldwide recession caused by economic confusion”
“At most a few more fat flourishing years, and then an economic recession that’s going to affect the life style of every wage-earner in the world. The world economists are going to be at loss to explain what’s happening. It’s going to start in Europe, spread to Japan and finally to the United States.”
There will be a move toward a worldwide, unified monetary system. The US dollar will be hit bad and it will take years for it to recover.
The only real security will be in real estate (until a somewhat later stage, at which point this apparent security will also disappear).
“Nature having labor pains”
Environmentalists will come under heavy criticism.
There will be major earthquakes.
There will be a major famine.
Floods, hurricanes and tornadoes will increase in frequency.
“A new kind of cosmic storm appearing as a raging fire in the sky leaving a kind of vapor trail.”[4]
“A flood of filth and a baptism of dirt in America”
Topless women will appear on television, followed by full nudity.
Adult, X rated movies will be shown on cable television. Young people will gather at homes to watch this kind of material in groups.
Sex and the occult will be mixed.
There will be an acceptance of homosexuality, and the church will even say that it is a God-given gift.
“Rebellion in the home”
“I see the new number one youth problem in America and the world as hatred towards parents.”[4]
“A persecution madness against truly Spirit filled Christians who love Jesus Christ”
There will arise a world church consisting of a union between liberal ecumenical Protestants and the Roman
Catholic Church, using Christ in name only.
There will be a hate Christ movement.
There will be a spiritual awakening behind the Iron and Bamboo Curtains.
Others
There will be another wave of riots.
There will be a fall in moral conduct.
There will be a new drug that will be popular with teenagers that will break down resistance and will encourage sexual activity.
Homosexual and lesbian ministers will be ordained and this will be heralded as a new breed of pioneer.
There will be nude dancing in church, but this will never be widespread.
There will be occult practices in churches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1292002


A person can read here and other places, my friend I already
mentioned, Wilkerson is beloved. Might be his upbringing, he is the pastor of very anti-Catholic Assemblies of God and shared in an earlier post, a former Protestant now Catholic stated David's come out of the Catholic Church in the Sword and the Switchblade. If he had known the true
faith but he didn't.

One thing for sure, Wilkerson is a prophet. The bolded
is true. The "Catholic Church" will not be the Remnant
Catholic Church. It will be Catholics not true to the faith
who will follow the anti-Christ and Satan. Read this
message given back in 07. If you would like the link to all
the messages given Cletus, I can put it up.

+ + +

GOD SPEAKS WILL YOU LISTEN


10/05/07

..."To answer a question for you: All who take the mark of the beast are forever cast into hell. This is what My word states. This will occur because mankind will be warned not to follow Satan and the anti Christ. By rejecting the Warning, you are rejecting God's mercy incurring His divine justice. Never before in history has a generation received such graces. Only at the General Judgment is an ungodly soul aware of his sin committed against My commandments. But the Warning will occur where every soul will experience a preview of their judgment if it had occurred at that instant. Then each soul will be given an opportunity to repent. Mercy will stop for many because all flesh will truly know I exist. After the Warning, by accepting the mark of the beast, you will be condemned to hell because you have rejected My mercy in it's fullest expression. My son, I give you a private prophecy. Share it at My leading. The anti Christ is rising to power so I speak to you. He is hidden until revealed according to My Father's will. Many natural disasters have and will continue to occur. Then you will experience the Warning. After the Warning, rejecting My mercy will cause you to take the mark of the beast. You will experience the abomination of Desolation and fierce persecution of My faithful Catholics by, lukewarm Catholics, Protestants who are apostate and the followers of the anti Christ."...
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“A new kind of cosmic storm appearing as a raging fire in the sky leaving a kind of vapor trail.”[4]
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That's interesting. I don't remember hearing that from him.
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David Wilkersons death is a sign to America
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Yes.
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The timing of David Wilkerson's death is very disturbing. We're entering into a time when the world will need a truly Godly man like Wilkerson -- and now he's gone. And make no mistake -- He was a "Christian's Christian." He was sold out to God 110% and NEVER compromised his faith in any way. He spoke the truth with unrelenting boldness and he feared no man. Wilkerson always stood head and shoulders above most other Christian "leaders."

David Wilkerson often warned that we needed to be aware of the signs of the times, to watch for the season of our Lord's return. I can't help but think that Wilkerson's passing is a sign unto itself for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.





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