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Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue

 
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Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
I contend that we must get to the bottom of this matter, decide what, if anything, is coming our way, because an awful lot of time is devoted to what might be a myth. If Professor McCanney is right and that, yes, a brown dwarf is heading our way, we have to ask WHY did NASA put out this story AT ALL? Why give us full details but NO PICTURE and no mass media coverage? Ask also why Astropatriot disappeared from the scene after he also concluded there was NO comet, couldn't find it, but found a BROWN DWARF instead and was going to set up a web cam before disappearing on the grounds he was a sex pervert. Really?And our 'real person' - c'mon guys! - Leonid Elenin coming out so readily with answers from a site run by NASA? I'd like all concerned by this matter to read what McCanney has to say. Here it is :

• Is Comet Elenin Real or a Hoax?
That is the question professor James McCanney has recently posed on his Science Hour radio show, stating that NASA has provided no data or proof or even photo’s of Comet Elenin, as would normally be expected.
Professor McCanney even stated that the one would expect very little electrical effects from a comet so far away as Elenin during the March 11, 2011 9.0 Japan earthquake. He also believes that the Japan earthquake could have been caused by several small tactical nuclear bombs and that the whirlpools that appeared after the quake were not natural. Professor McCanney is not alone on such findings. He plans on doing his own research to find out the truth of Comet Elenin and it’s existance. To find out more please go to the James McCanney Science Hour webpage to hear his recent radio broadcasts.
I deeply respect James McCanney and his insights and I encourage everyone to read his books and educate yourselves and form your own educated opinions. Personally, I do believe that Planet X may be real and that comets probably are not dirty little snow balls but are electric in nature. However I do question why our news media is silent for the most part on Comet Elenin and the earthquakes which occurred during her supposed alignments. Something unusual is going on here and hopefully one day we will get to the bottom of it.

• James McCanney has recently stated that if there is a planetary size object heading into the inner solar system it is predicted to be seen this coming June from only southerly locations, such as New Zealand.
McCanney also believes that all of the theories about a possible new planetary size object in the Oort cloud causing comets to enter the interior of our solar system is a cover story by the science community to try and explain why we are seeing more comets coming from the wrong direction in such large numbers. He also believes that the story of an incoming large comet put out by NASA to explain the sudden increase in Sun-grazing comets reported last DEC. is also a cover story to explain the increase in these small comets, when the real reason, is that a planetary size object is most likely moving closer into the center of our solar system. For more info please listen to his James McCanney Science Hour, radio broadcast Feb. 17, 2011.

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Good question. Elenin(C2010 X1) is recognized by the JPL and is predicted to pass us by without anything happening. However, how much can you believe from a source that has a history of lies and deciet? Look at the 2003 comet that nearly killed us all. Not a word on mainstream media and it is still very hard to obtain information on.

Also the oort cloud is still only theorized.
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Good question. Elenin(C2010 X1) is recognized by the JPL and is predicted to pass us by without anything happening. However, how much can you believe from a source that has a history of lies and deciet? Look at the 2003 comet that nearly killed us all. Not a word on mainstream media and it is still very hard to obtain information on.

Also the oort cloud is still only theorized.
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what info have you got on that please?
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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
youtubers hyped it too much
shame
ordinary comet

moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds
we make errors in between
perception->relation->behaviour
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pile of shit nothings is gona happen i just bought a 60 k audi ... so hows that
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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
...If Professor McCanney is right and that, yes, a brown dwarf is heading our way...
• James McCanney has recently stated that if there is a planetary size object heading into the inner solar system it is predicted to be seen this coming June from only southerly locations, such as New Zealand...
mclinking
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I must have missed that. When and where did he say that, because on his last posted show he specifically denies it at timemark 0:47:00 - [link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]


Radio Archives - [link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]

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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
youtubers hyped it too much
shame
ordinary comet

 Quoting: Funney

Wow where's your picture have you seen it you lucky chap.
I think only about 3/4 people have seen it lol.
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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
I contend that we must get to the bottom of this matter, decide what, if anything, is coming our way, because an awful lot of time is devoted to what might be a myth. If Professor McCanney is right and that, yes, a brown dwarf is heading our way, we have to ask WHY did NASA put out this story AT ALL? Why give us full details but NO PICTURE and no mass media coverage? Ask also why Astropatriot disappeared from the scene after he also concluded there was NO comet, couldn't find it, but found a BROWN DWARF instead and was going to set up a web cam before disappearing on the grounds he was a sex pervert. Really?And our 'real person' - c'mon guys! - Leonid Elenin coming out so readily with answers from a site run by NASA? I'd like all concerned by this matter to read what McCanney has to say. Here it is :

• Is Comet Elenin Real or a Hoax?
That is the question professor James McCanney has recently posed on his Science Hour radio show, stating that NASA has provided no data or proof or even photo’s of Comet Elenin, as would normally be expected.
Professor McCanney even stated that the one would expect very little electrical effects from a comet so far away as Elenin during the March 11, 2011 9.0 Japan earthquake. He also believes that the Japan earthquake could have been caused by several small tactical nuclear bombs and that the whirlpools that appeared after the quake were not natural. Professor McCanney is not alone on such findings. He plans on doing his own research to find out the truth of Comet Elenin and it’s existance. To find out more please go to the James McCanney Science Hour webpage to hear his recent radio broadcasts.
I deeply respect James McCanney and his insights and I encourage everyone to read his books and educate yourselves and form your own educated opinions. Personally, I do believe that Planet X may be real and that comets probably are not dirty little snow balls but are electric in nature. However I do question why our news media is silent for the most part on Comet Elenin and the earthquakes which occurred during her supposed alignments. Something unusual is going on here and hopefully one day we will get to the bottom of it.

• James McCanney has recently stated that if there is a planetary size object heading into the inner solar system it is predicted to be seen this coming June from only southerly locations, such as New Zealand.
McCanney also believes that all of the theories about a possible new planetary size object in the Oort cloud causing comets to enter the interior of our solar system is a cover story by the science community to try and explain why we are seeing more comets coming from the wrong direction in such large numbers. He also believes that the story of an incoming large comet put out by NASA to explain the sudden increase in Sun-grazing comets reported last DEC. is also a cover story to explain the increase in these small comets, when the real reason, is that a planetary size object is most likely moving closer into the center of our solar system. For more info please listen to his James McCanney Science Hour, radio broadcast Feb. 17, 2011.

mclinking
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Cheers bud lol Iv'e got something to do off to look up James McCanney .You ask good question's.
My conclusion is there's got to be a cover up ,Maybe of a brown dwarf like you said or something more sinister like depopulation .
I knew the whirlpools seemed very strange.
Trouble is it could be either.
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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
OP, if that is the case then :
why isn't Mc canny branded a sex offender?
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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
OP, i have a question
Who is astropatriot in the eys of the world (and not GLP )?
Who branded him a sex pervert? Government? Police? Was he officially arrested?
I don't know anything at all about this person you are talking about but i am guessing all you are saying is related to just a forum that is called GLP and has nothing to do with the outside world. If i am wrong then please advice and explain.
Must becareful not to become trapped in a fishbowl thinking it is the world and universe. What you read on forums such as these rarely have solid background and it is all done for fun.
There are 1000's of doom pages about anything from comets to "friend of a friend who has secret contact with illuminati told me...." on this forum and many other forums like this. Even if you were to find an outside sourse that has picked up the story, you will always trace the roots back to the same kind of forums.
If you go back and look at the doom, prophecy and comet/nibiru threads you will see that they all come and go without a single event ever coming true.
After all the proof is we are all still here. Aren't we?

With that said can you now please explain who this astropatriot is and when was he arrested by police?
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James McCanney Science Hour
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LOL!
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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
I contend that we must get to the bottom of this matter,

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There is NO 'matter'!!

There is a comet passing by the Earth, never getting closer than 20 MILLION miles from us, and then passing back OUT into deep space.

NO problem, no matter WHAT kooks like McCanney say!!!!





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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
I contend that we must get to the bottom of this matter,

 Quoting: mclinking 1360245


There is NO 'matter'!!

There is a comet passing by the Earth, never getting closer than 20 MILLION miles from us, and then passing back OUT into deep space.

NO problem, no matter WHAT kooks like McCanney say!!!!
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If you listen to the first 20 minutes of last nights show McCanney again DENIES saying Planet-X is in the solar system and rants about the NASA Mis-Information campaign which is trying to HYPE Elenin - [link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]

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Come on OP, McCanney did NOT say that "a brown dwarf is heading our way", why make up stories and spread disinfo???

You are exactly the sort of person that he warns us about on his radio shows.
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pile of shit nothings is gona happen i just bought a 60 k audi ... so hows that
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I heard they attract flames during social unrest. But hey, live dangerously.
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Come on OP, McCanney did NOT say that "a brown dwarf is heading our way", why make up stories and spread disinfo???

You are exactly the sort of person that he warns us about on his radio shows.
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Listening to his show now lol I got to agree the OP has failed big.
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Did they have comets during Hitler's time?

Because that is the origin of NASA.
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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
James McCanney 20 minutes of moaning about NASA be warned
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James McCanney 20 minutes of moaning about NASA be warned
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lmao anyone other than his audience have no brains thats it ive heard enough
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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
I feel I may have misled people about McCanney. What I reported about McCanney is from another source, not me, and I assumed the writer was giving accurate details of what McCanney said. Silly me for I too have been misled. But that doesn't alter the fact of invalidating McCanney's questions I posed before quoting the info of McCanney. As for Astropatriot, you need to do a bit of digging to find his original videos, his site and his disappearance and I'm sure some other readers know about what happened to him and why.
So? I still ask :
Why no pictures from NASA????
Where do we go from here? NASA Buzzroom?
We just go round in circles.

mclinking
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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
I feel I may have misled people about McCanney. What I reported about McCanney is from another source, not me, and I assumed the writer was giving accurate details of what McCanney said. Silly me for I too have been misled. But that doesn't alter the fact of invalidating McCanney's questions I posed before quoting the info of McCanney. As for Astropatriot, you need to do a bit of digging to find his original videos, his site and his disappearance and I'm sure some other readers know about what happened to him and why.
So? I still ask :
Why no pictures from NASA????
Where do we go from here? NASA Buzzroom?
We just go round in circles.

mclinking
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Thanks for admitting error Op, not too many people would do that.

For now, it looks like Comet Elenin is going to be a non event other than viewing it. This is subject to change as more information is gathered. I feel that McCanney is quite reliable and will go along with his opinion as he researches it further.
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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
youtubers hyped it too much
shame
ordinary comet

 Quoting: Funney


hm...

not really like you, Funney...

hyped excessively?.. true! which by the way already takes it out of ORDINARY.

When its name and the 'synchronicities' involved take the matter even further out of your definition.

Even if the 'thingy' itself is a 'disappointment' the issues behind IT are not ORDINARY.
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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
youtubers hyped it too much
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and you make yourself look like a shill too!

Thread: *** BREAKING NEWS: UNBELIEVABLE INFO ABOUT ELENIN !!!!!!!!!!!!
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memorex.
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For now, it looks like Comet Elenin is going to be a non event other than viewing it. This is subject to change as more information is gathered.
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pick
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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
youtubers hyped it too much
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ordinary comet

 Quoting: Funney


and you make yourself look like a shill too!

Thread: *** BREAKING NEWS: UNBELIEVABLE INFO ABOUT ELENIN !!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361950


ordinary video
of ordinary comet
whats up with your link ? (to another youtube shit)


hf
moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds
we make errors in between
perception->relation->behaviour
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Re: Fake or hoax? Comet Elenin - the REAL issue
Ask also why Astropatriot disappeared from the scene after he also concluded there was NO comet, couldn't find it, but found a BROWN DWARF instead and was going to set up a web cam before disappearing on the grounds he was a sex pervert.
 Quoting: mclinking 1360245


I thought Von Helton was the pervert? Anyway, Astrolpatriot is a hoaxer. He showed extreme ignorance of basic astronomy, stole "his" telescope's image from a real amateur astronomer, then changed his story about what kind of telescope he was using to a telescope that wasn't even capable of performing the deep space photography he claimed to be showing from it, and my favorite part of all, claimed to show Neptune next to Pluto in the same field of view!

Anyway, Elenin is right where its orbit shows it should be. It's as faint as can be, but it's there and it's real:
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Here's astrometry of the unenhanced image:
[link to flickr.com]
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