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If you could create a new world.

 
Goku

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Re: If you could create a new world.
Admiration of virginity doesn't really help in not making babies during sex, does it? I would also still like or maybe not like you if you became unvirginiced, so I don't think it is good or normal to go idolizing it and make us treat people badly for it.
Somehow we now, while we have birth control stuff, have more people on the planet than before. So it seems something else is making it so, not the sex.
So just lets forget about the babies, somehow it will work, and why not let the community all chip in in bringing them up. Can I now have uncomplicated sex already?
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I am pretty slutty, so it would be like shooting myself in the foot. Sex is one issue that is practically uncontrollable.
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I'm not an ugly man and if I really wanted to all I'd have to do is walk to a bar and be myself. Talk to a few women and could go home with one of them. But I think that's what Christ meant about us picking up our cross, you know our sacrifice to god. Might not be sex, many people struggle with other things. But waiting until you meet someone you want to have sex and kids with, like I said I'm not a virgin. But I wish I would have waited until I found that special someone.
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I would use the US Constitution to set up the government, and make it iron clad, unbreakable.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
Admiration of virginity doesn't really help in not making babies during sex, does it? I would also still like or maybe not like you if you became unvirginiced, so I don't think it is good or normal to go idolizing it and make us treat people badly for it.
Somehow we now, while we have birth control stuff, have more people on the planet than before. So it seems something else is making it so, not the sex.
So just lets forget about the babies, somehow it will work, and why not let the community all chip in in bringing them up. Can I now have uncomplicated sex already?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068718


I am pretty slutty, so it would be like shooting myself in the foot. Sex is one issue that is practically uncontrollable.
 Quoting: PinkLilPanties


I'm not an ugly man and if I really wanted to all I'd have to do is walk to a bar and be myself. Talk to a few women and could go home with one of them. But I think that's what Christ meant about us picking up our cross, you know our sacrifice to god. Might not be sex, many people struggle with other things. But waiting until you meet someone you want to have sex and kids with, like I said I'm not a virgin. But I wish I would have waited until I found that special someone.
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Would waiting for marriage improve the success rate among divorce?

If you are going that route why not just completely eliminate the concept of fidelity where we don't belong to anyone in a legal document.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
I would use the US Constitution to set up the government, and make it iron clad, unbreakable.
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So, how would you control 'the corporations'. They are not bound to your constitution and can create their own world order.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
I would use the US Constitution to set up the government, and make it iron clad, unbreakable.
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Sounds good.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
Abolish religion, all it does is divide.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Re: If you could create a new world.
If you are going that route why not just completely eliminate the concept of fidelity where we don't belong to anyone in a legal document.
 Quoting: PinkLilPanties

Agreed. Maybe review ownership of anything completely. I'm not saying it should be communist lead, but maybe we should share everything and not claim possessor of anything else other than maybe that what we just have put in our mouth.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
What element would you include to further civilization?
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Moderated by an uncorruptable machine programmed with rules written by me.
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And how would that machine enforce its authority?
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Absolutely.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
I would use the US Constitution to set up the government, and make it iron clad, unbreakable.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


So, how would you control 'the corporations'. They are not bound to your constitution and can create their own world order.
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Hopefully by exposing the corruption alongside the good of corporations, future generations can come up with a better plan.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
I would use the US Constitution to set up the government, and make it iron clad, unbreakable.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


So, how would you control 'the corporations'. They are not bound to your constitution and can create their own world order.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068718


Hopefully by exposing the corruption alongside the good of corporations, future generations can come up with a better plan.
 Quoting: PinkLilPanties


Why settle for less? I know the fight in the US now seems to be constitution against socialist government. But I never understood that since it is ignoring the true big brother and our overlords which is a bunch of corporations and investment firms.
A new world would need to deal with that, not a future generation.
I think I would just not make corporations and government or a constitution.
We all need to defend each other with our own morals. And like I said, food and water are for free.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
All women would be cloned to look like Miley Cyrus.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
Abolish religion, all it does is divide.
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Religion will abolish itself with hand of zealots and fanatics (it's a ticking time bomb). Hopefully people develop a true impartial conscience to further its demise.
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. - Eleanor Roosevelt, 1936
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04/30/2011 06:34 PM
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Re: If you could create a new world.
Well I think its important to make sure that when people start asking questions the answer is inside them. Emphasize prayer and meditation.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
do away with the monetary system and use a resource based economy. Most problems solved right there.
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Resources in relation to human labor? How would that be possible without using dirty words such as "slavery" and "serfs"?
 Quoting: PinkLilPanties


The monetary system is the cause of slavery and serfdom. You have to make money to live.

www.thevenusproject.com

You do not have to work in a resource based economy as technology would do most of the jobs humans do today. It already has started that process.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
My dad told me I swore a little too much, so I will refrain from cursing here. But we need to chop the heads of the snake and burn its body PERIOD!!!
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Re: If you could create a new world.
My dad told me I swore a little too much, so I will refrain from cursing here. But we need to chop the heads of the snake and burn its body PERIOD!!!
 Quoting: Goku


beated
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Re: If you could create a new world.
Abolish religion, all it does is divide.
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Religion will abolish itself with hand of zealots and fanatics (it's a ticking time bomb). Hopefully people develop a true impartial conscience to further its demise.
 Quoting: PinkLilPanties


Religion has survived everything thrown at it.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
Abolish religion, all it does is divide.
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Religion will abolish itself with hand of zealots and fanatics (it's a ticking time bomb). Hopefully people develop a true impartial conscience to further its demise.
 Quoting: PinkLilPanties


Religion has survived everything thrown at it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1057985


Everyone needs to believe that all the bad things that happen in a person's life are caused by a higher power.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
Abolish religion, all it does is divide.
 Quoting: ajk


Religion will abolish itself with hand of zealots and fanatics (it's a ticking time bomb). Hopefully people develop a true impartial conscience to further its demise.
 Quoting: PinkLilPanties


Religion has survived everything thrown at it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1057985


Everyone needs to believe that all the bad things that happen in a person's life are caused by a higher power.
 Quoting: PinkLilPanties


And that THE HIGHEST power allows them to happen.pigchef
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Re: If you could create a new world.
Abolish religion, all it does is divide.
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Religion will abolish itself with hand of zealots and fanatics (it's a ticking time bomb). Hopefully people develop a true impartial conscience to further its demise.
 Quoting: PinkLilPanties


Religion has survived everything thrown at it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1057985


Everyone needs to believe that all the bad things that happen in a person's life are caused by a higher power.
 Quoting: PinkLilPanties


Well, people like emotional mystic stories about things they are scared for. And it can be used to tell people what to do. I would not allow religion in the form of religious institutions.
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Re: If you could create a new world.
I was thinking about caging them and feeding them radioactive food until they were all gathered, the examples. So some might die before we get back, than just covering there tombs in all the earthly things they sought in places around the world. So mothers and fathers can teach there children and when they ask for proof they can point at it.
 Quoting: Goku


lol.....

.......what the fuck?
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Re: If you could create a new world.
Abolish religion, all it does is divide.
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Religion will abolish itself with hand of zealots and fanatics (it's a ticking time bomb). Hopefully people develop a true impartial conscience to further its demise.
 Quoting: PinkLilPanties


I don't know. As long as human beings fear death there will be "religion".

And as long as we're alive we're going to fear death, so....

I consider myself a socialist, but most socialists think I'm a douche because I believe in freedom of religion. I believe anyone should be allowed to worship anything they want however they want...as long as they're not hurting anyone or themselves.

"As long as they're not hurting anyone or themselves" can be a bit of a gray area, yeah (the burqa-debate, for instance...)...but it's the best we have.

And it seems if someone is told they can't practice how the want- or is told to practice differently- the more they're going to believe their fight against you is pre-ordained and that God himself is on their side.

I think this is part of the reason many "Nibiru"-debates I get into on this site become so "vicious". Many (not all) of the "Nibiru"-believers are Christian Fundamentalists who believe "Nibiru" is prophecy. It's why they fight so hard. They think they're fighting for the word of God himself.

I'll say this though- in the course of that fight someone on "my" side suggested, hypothetically, that to finish the debate one and for all we should take away the "Nibiru"-believers' right to worship....I'd say "hell no".

There's no more vicious war than religious-war.

Some people would have it that way though. People have been trying to tell other people how/what/when to worship for centuries. Look at the Crusades. Look at the Reformation in England, ect...

I recall reading that one of the reason's Rome was as successful as it was for so long was when it conquered a "territory" it was very liberal as far as allowing the conquered peoples to worship as they wished.

Why create the fuss?

I don't know. The only thing I believe in is randomness and coincidence.

To quote a character from my favorite show "The Wire":

"'Deserve's' got nuthin' to do with it..."





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