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WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH (I suggest everyone re-read 1984) | |
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Sword0fGideon  User ID: 1363490 United States04/30/2011 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WAR IS PEACE = Libya, "Responsibility to protect" policy. We enjoin a military campaign against Libya and are told that it is bringing peace and stability, mission / endgame left undefined. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1348982FREEDOM IS SLAVERY = Capitalism and the free market being demonized and the term "slave" now defining anyone who works for a living. Corporations as slave masters, etc. etc. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH = The Obama Admin. and leftist overlords organizing and mobilizing dimwitted college students, high schoolers, poverty-stricken urban dolts and American Idol pop culture simpletons into an army of supportive "useful idiots". INNER PARTY = OMAMA and his empowered socialist cohorts, Soros, Ayers, Sunstein, Holdren, Peolosi, Reid, etc. OUTER PARTY - Labor Unions, academia, the msm, community orgaizers PROLES - The unwashed masses, Joe 6-pack, the private sector that is being trodden down into a peasant class "BIG BROTHER" - Government, DHS, DHHS, EPA, the Iphone tracking our movements, Google Earth and who knows what else monitoring us and collecting data, I suppose listening too at any given time, who knows. Re-read the book. It all makes sense. The precious concept of FREEDOM will again make sense to you. Remember the original commercial that introduced Apple to the world? We were warned. why stop there? id suggest reading the bible, 84', animal farm (it is informative), and if you have time some ayn rand books, as they will suggest how they will tear it apart. she has even written another book that tells you how dumbed down they would like the masses to be. although i forget the name, but can find it for who ever is interested, it can be downloaded it is a free audio book. Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well. This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them. The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends. Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers. Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them. And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter. Which is insanity! oxxxxx§:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+> |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1348982 United States04/30/2011 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Duckspeak is a Newspeak term meaning literally to quack like a duck or to speak without thinking. Duckspeak can be either good or "ungood" (bad), depending on who is speaking, and whether what they are saying is in following with the ideals of Big Brother. To speak rubbish and lies may be ungood, but to speak rubbish and lies for the good of "The Party" may be good. In the appendix to 1984, Orwell explains: “ Ultimately it was hoped to make articulate speech issue from the larynx without involving the higher brain centres at all. This aim was frankly admitted in the Newspeak word duckspeak […]. Like various words in the B vocabulary, duckspeak was ambivalent in meaning. Provided that the opinions which were quacked out were orthodox ones, it implied nothing but praise, and when the Times referred to one of the orators of the Party as a doubleplusgood duckspeaker it was paying a warm and valued compliment. ” —Orwell, 1984 An example of a skillful duckspeaker in action is provided in the beginning of chapter 9, in which an Inner Party speaker is haranguing the crowd about the crimes of Eurasia when a note is passed into his hand; he does not stop speaking for a moment, or change his voice or manner, but (according to the changed party line) he now condemns the crimes of Eastasia, which is Oceania's new enemy. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 502821 United States04/30/2011 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doublespeak is language that deliberately disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words. Doublespeak may take the form of euphemisms (e.g., "downsizing" for layoffs), making the truth less unpleasant, without denying its nature. It may also be deployed as intentional ambiguity, or reversal of meaning (for example, naming a state of war "peace"). In such cases, doublespeak disguises the nature of the truth, producing a communication bypass. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1348982Duckspeak is a Newspeak term meaning literally to quack like a duck or to speak without thinking. Duckspeak can be either good or "ungood" (bad), depending on who is speaking, and whether what they are saying is in following with the ideals of Big Brother. To speak rubbish and lies may be ungood, but to speak rubbish and lies for the good of "The Party" may be good. In the appendix to 1984, Orwell explains: “ Ultimately it was hoped to make articulate speech issue from the larynx without involving the higher brain centres at all. This aim was frankly admitted in the Newspeak word duckspeak […]. Like various words in the B vocabulary, duckspeak was ambivalent in meaning. Provided that the opinions which were quacked out were orthodox ones, it implied nothing but praise, and when the Times referred to one of the orators of the Party as a doubleplusgood duckspeaker it was paying a warm and valued compliment. ” —Orwell, 1984 An example of a skillful duckspeaker in action is provided in the beginning of chapter 9, in which an Inner Party speaker is haranguing the crowd about the crimes of Eurasia when a note is passed into his hand; he does not stop speaking for a moment, or change his voice or manner, but (according to the changed party line) he now condemns the crimes of Eastasia, which is Oceania's new enemy. Also things like WMD's, dissention/terrorist/insurrectionists, rebel, too big to fail, freedom is oppression and crap like that as well. "He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future." - George Orwell |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1348982 United States04/30/2011 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821We're at war with Pacifica again, right? Or was it Oceania? It doesn't seem to matter as ally to enemy seems to shift with time sometimes. Just substitute in the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda, who we are no assisting in Libya, or Israel, who we claim to be an ally with while at the same time working against. Obama's Passover speech identified Israel as friend and foe within the same sentence. An example of a skillful duckspeaker in action is provided in the beginning of chapter 9, in which an Inner Party speaker is haranguing the crowd about the crimes of Eurasia when a note is passed into his hand; he does not stop speaking for a moment, or change his voice or manner, but (according to the changed party line) he now condemns the crimes of Eastasia, which is Oceania's new enemy. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1348982 United States04/30/2011 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blackwhite is defined as follows: “ ...this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts. Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary. This demands a continuous alteration of the past, made possible by the system of thought which really embraces all the rest, and which is known in Newspeak as doublethink. ” —Orwell, 1984 The word is an example of both Newspeak and doublethink. It represents the active process of rewriting the past, control of the past being a vital aspect of the Party's control over the present. The ability to blindly believe anything, regardless of its absurdity, can have different causes: respect for authority, fear, indoctrination, even critical laziness or gullibility. Orwell's blackwhite refers only to that caused by fear, indoctrination, or repression of one's individual critical thinking ("to know black is white"), rather than caused by laziness or gullibility. A true Party member could automatically, and without thought, expunge any "incorrect" information and totally replace it with "true" information from the Party. If properly done, there is no memory or recovery of the "incorrect" information that could cause unhappiness to the Party member by committing thoughtcrime. This ability is likened to the total erasure of information only possible in electronic storage. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 502821 United States04/30/2011 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The word is an example of both Newspeak and doublethink. It represents the active process of rewriting the past, control of the past being a vital aspect of the Party's control over the present. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1348982The ability to blindly believe anything, regardless of its absurdity, can have different causes: respect for authority, fear, indoctrination, even critical laziness or gullibility. Orwell's blackwhite refers only to that caused by fear, indoctrination, or repression of one's individual critical thinking ("to know black is white"), rather than caused by laziness or gullibility. A true Party member could automatically, and without thought, expunge any "incorrect" information and totally replace it with "true" information from the Party. If properly done, there is no memory or recovery of the "incorrect" information that could cause unhappiness to the Party member by committing thoughtcrime. This ability is likened to the total erasure of information only possible in electronic storage. Uncomfortable things and ideas tend to just unconsciously (sometimes consciously) tossed down the memory hole. I wondered if it was like a dysfunctional coping method or something. |
