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I am the real John Lear...ask me a question

 
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Hi John,
I just want to say I enjoy reading this thread. Your advice of living life with integrity, no greed, hate, or envy, is spot on. That's really all you can control anyway. Karma should sort the rest out at some point.

-Thanks
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John,

I have enjoyed reading this thread.

If you have answered these already I apologize and must have missed it but I did read all your posts.

What, in your opinion, are the aliens getting out of creating souls and keeping the "revolving door" soul machine going?

It seems to me that there would be a lot of resources used to keep it up so I would imagine they have a very good reason for doing this.

Also, if they are able to create a soul why not just create a perfect soul with infinite knowledge right out of the box?

When a soul reaches itís potential and graduates to the off Earth play ground who oversees that play ground (heaven)?

Is there a top species that oversees the entire universe?

Again my apologies if these have been answered already.

Thanks!
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I didn't read Johns comments as sarcasm.
You are a good factual contributer here Charles and valued.

I too have trouble colouring my words when in the written form that have been taken as insulting.

Surely we all agree that DD is an impeccable source who is who he says he is. I too have followed his stuff.


His explanation of Roswell is the most logical and sensible.
Occams razor tells us that the simplest exlanation is USUALLY the best or right one.

Somehow over time this staement has been changed from USUALLY to ALWAYS. We type of people are the ones interested in exceptions to rules aren't we. 99% is not Always.
Even if it may well be in this case!

Nature gives us isotopes to make sure we get it.

Once you learn that in Japans case that the war did not really end in 1945 it does make sense that things could still be happening in 1947 and 1952 such as the DD version of Roswell.

Too add even more complexity to this issue, What David Wilcock and Ben Fulford have been talking about with the gold and bonds etc... say that these warships were used to take gold back to the USA.

Whether or not you are a DW or BF fan, we won't attack the messanger now- or will we? For the sake of simplicity and ease!

It was Destroyers not Carriers that are mentioned by BF and DW but that could be key here. Destroyers always accompany carriers. Did they go their seperate ways from there?
What really happened to those ships? were they not scrapped in Japan after all or were they first sailed to the USA with the gold and back to Japan for scrapping to make into cars etc..

This is all getting very interesting as the 'big picture' emerges as to all of these dots now connecting up-maybe!


DD is right. I believe him. That would not rule out that those documents had been for certain people but not others.

One thing I do believe that Hoagland says is that 'the lie is different as every level'. It is ALL valuable data and thank you for bringing up DDs name so he is included in the search for the truth.

Roswell is not a good case for the existance of ET anyway. Bentwaters is a far better one IMO as there is way more data
with still alive people involved.

For all we know it was Japs in Fugu balloons that crashed into ETs in saucers! Then everybodys right.
Not forgetting the Nazis in their saucers too of course!

We may not quite have kicked the crap out of this one just yet! Although it would be nice to say case closed we keep getting more questions.
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Hello HaveBlue

Thanks for your comments. I don't believe John Lear respects DD's work and yet it seems he was unfamiliar with it only days ago. It takes a lot longer than that to listen to the interviews. The are deep, dense and challenging. I've listened to some many times. They are also fun

John claims Sleeper is a good source, and (in my view) questions the value/veracity/importance of DD. That's not coherent in my view.

Your point about Roswell is the most damaging to John's claim of Sleeper's veracity . Sleeper wrote a book about Roswell and DD's Dept of Defence document destruction experience refutes that.

I say John is intellectually obliged to familiarise himself with DD's work and instead of making rash responses towards me, take the time to see what is going on. I'm very open minded about the wildest claims but not if more solid claims are being rubbished. Then I'm intolerant of intolerance.

Sleeper's greatest crime in my view is he's not very bright or spiritually deep. If you listen to his Veritas interview he sneers at Mel's questions and bangs on about how superior ET are.

Not a great choice of candidate for a higher intelligence to make if a wider audience is desired.

c.
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For all we know it was Japs in Fugu balloons that crashed into ETs in saucers! Then everybodys right.
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Ha ha.. that' the alternative case I hoped John would make. It is much in line with Spielberg's line of thinking.

:)

c.
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That's why people want to get out of here. And that is why I want to get out of here. I am also tired of the shenanigans that go on every day and people just scrunch up their pillows and pull up the covers.

I like earth. But I have seen enough of it that I want to see other planets, solar systems, galaxies etc. I'll get someone to take a photo of me and the Great Pumpkin walking hand in stem through the lobby to meet all of my old friends who have passed already.

Particularly Scott Lyon. When I finally found time to visit him in the hospital his he was already dead. I want to apologize face to face. Scott was one of the original members of Seal Team 6.

I also want to take some of the saucers for a spin, so to speak. And do a low pass over Saturn which supposedly will take my breath away.

I've also got a photos of the near side and far side to see what they look like close up. Particularly Aristarchus. What glows in the dark.

I kinda fantasize entering a spot landing contest with that spaceship that Norm Bergrun found in the rings of Saturn that is 30,000 miles long and 2400 miles in diameter.
And colors.

They say that there are a billion times a billion different colors than the ones we can see here on earth. And I guess I don't have to mention I will be on 'Babe Watch'.

So when you find a way to graduate YOUR WAY, I'll be up there waiting for you and show you around.


John

Thank you for the reminder of all the wonderfull things we have yet to do.
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Greetings Mr. Lear,
I just found this thread yesterday, I have another 170 pages or so to get thru the whole thing but what I have read thus far is really amazing!
Thank you for the insight and information you provide.
I did read some info on the speed of light, Einstein, etc. in what I have gone thru this far. I never could understand how something could not go faster than the light speed "if indeed" space outside our atmosphere has no atmosphere or anything to slow down, ie: friction, a spaceship. Once in motion a spaceship would continue to accelerate virtually forever. At some point it would surpass light speed.
I have read that at the speed of light time stops. Er, so what?! A mandatory "layover" so one doesn't return before one has left?

Not really a question, just thinking out loud, outside the box as usual for me. :)
Again, thanks for the replies to the hundreds of questions already. You and others like minded at least motivate people to think.

TellNoOne
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Coming from a man who quotes Sleeper I think your sarcasm lacks integrity or intellectual consistency. You proselytize a man with no credentials whatsoever while supporting a wild claim that the moon is inhabited by superior beings who are testing us.

Is this the real John Lear we are seeing?

Sincerely

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How in the heck did I proselytize DD? You can't get any better source than a document destroyer at the Presidio.

Maybe you thought I was being sarcastic? My sarcasm usually does lack integrity and intellectual consistency, but my comments about DD were honest and heartfelt.

And while my claim that the moon is inhabited by superior beings who are testing us (they are not testing us, we are testing ourselves) seems to be wild, it is in fact supported by numerous photos both of the nearside and farside taken by NAZA themselves.

Yep, its the real me!
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Its Muse again....John, that was a perfect response--Hell, I have no idea what you guys are talking about, but...."they are not testing us, we are testing ourselves" it correct Sir!
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FYI....if you doubt the integrity of John Lear...

Just note his consistant honesty and open dialogue....

He is aware of the mysteries and yelling out for others to take a leap and look individually on their own...

You either get a part of its hugeness or not.....

Muse loves this guy....
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Sleeper may well be like the reluctant messiah in Richards Bachs 'Illusions' in that he didn't want the job but that was what he was given.

How does a biologist choose a specimen? at random. That is why 'he' was picked.

Just like when my power bill arrives, there's all sorts of mumbo jumbo on it but it's the bottom line that really matters to me.

To live with integrety, without envy hate or greed is the bottom line here.

I haven't heard the second hour of sleeper on Mel Fabergas Veritas show or got any PDFs of sleepers books. I'm up for donations P2P style.

I did try to earn a 3 month subscription there at Veritas for transcribing an interview of your choice that was yet to be done.

I chose the John Lear one. This was within days of 'them' admitting that indeed there was water on the moon!
John had been saying that for ages before that. Just to give one example of John being vindicated.

I did the first 2 hours but the last 20 mins I couldn't find time to do 'in a timely fashion' at the time so gave Mel what I'd done and told him to give it to someone else to finish.

That is how I am so very familiar with Johns material.
Transcribing can take a long time. There is a huge responsibility to write it exactly as it was said.

The problem we have is this. John Lear says some pretty 'out there' things. Over time you get to tick alot of his 'claims' off. That makes honest researchers unable to write John off as a fantasist and/or an idiot.

Don't forget Bob Lazars promise to kill himself if John was right about those builings on the moon!

I would like to see a few people follow Bobs footsteps!
It certainly provides me with a few laughs.

Note how gracious John was. He did not make Bob kill himself or hold him to ransom. (or did you John?)

At he end of the day we all believe what we WANT to believe.
Boyd Bushman believes Bob. Edgar Mitchel believes his Roswell 'old timers'. I belive I should get this post made and stop rambling.

We can't criticize John for not knowing who Douglas Detrich is. He is new on the scene and John is retired and cannot be expected to know all new developments before 'we' do.

He is not scouring the web like some of us. He spends sometimes 10 hours a day or more just on us here at this thread.

Ask him the right questions and he will go way beyond what you can expect of any reasonable person to give you a thorough reply.

Nobody else does that. He does not insult people. He does have a good sense of humour.
We are the ones that inherit the baton from the John Lears while they are still here.

He knows that maybe only a 1000 people will pay this any mind at all.
I do not suffer fools gladly myself and anywhere on the web that I find blatant rubbish is a site I do not return to.

I know I'm raving now (again)so I'll just remind all that Johns first post must be read and re-read. He reserves his right to change his mind when new info comes to light.

John, the Douglas Deitrich stuff is well worth a google (or my preferred search engine that does not track your every move 'startingpage.com')

It is good material and not a waste of time.
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Sleeper may well be like the reluctant messiah in Richards Bachs 'Illusions' in that he didn't want the job but that was what he was given.


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Sleeper invented his Roswell narrative. Ex military disinfo sold by ex CIA service guy? sniff sniff. checks product.

John and Sleeper make a good team.

Just like Bob Lazar.

Another coincidental meeting....

c.
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It's a team I'd like to be on. Like that other guy who said 'wow oh wow'

Who also said this:

Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.
-- Steve Jobs, US computer engineer & industrialist (1955 - 2011)

He must be talking about the team we speak of.

There is no product BTW. Apart from the Official John Lear Tin Foil Hat of course of which I'm still saving up for \m/

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John will you post that military catalog with all the items the military would like by the year 2025?
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John will you post that military catalog with all the items the military would like by the year 2025?
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hey JL..

does kerry have nice titties?? they look pretty good to me..



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So I would love to hear you thoughts on how one lives with integrity and still within the system. .

For starters you don't lie, cheat and steal. And for another you have to give your neighbor your best tomatoes. Don't keep them for yourself.




John every day people are doing just what you said you should not be doing Let me give an example say I work at an oil company as a low level bookkeeper. Now this oil company has been in cohorts putting corrupt regimes in power in X country, so they can steal the oil resources at rock bottom prices. Thus the people of X country are being robbed and raped and suffering as a result. Now I might only be a bookkeeper, but indirectly my job/role is necessary in providing the overall structure that allows this robbing and raping to go on. You could use this example and apply it to multiple corporations and in some way or another most of us have therefor had our integrity compromised. You donít have to pull the trigger so to speak to be involved in the crime.. Same goes with paying taxes. We might not directly be dropping bombs on people in X place, but we are sure helping to pay for it.

So unless you were to step out of the system, which for most is impossible to do it is virtually impossible to live with integrity as every day in some way it is compromised. And given a sandwich to a homeless person, or telling someone you love them does not change that.

So tell me how you people her can be living with integrity. Are you saying just because you don't lie, cheat and steal it directly than it is all okay. The fact that the money you got to pay for your home came from a company that for example, stole the resources and forced people from their homes, so long as you were not directly involved then you are living with integrity?



Try not paying your taxes and see what happens to you? .
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You go to jail. Whats your point?


My point was that taxes etc are used to help prop up oppresive regimes, bomb people, and so on. So in effect you are funding this through payment of taxes. Seems to me if one was living their life with integrity not paying your taxes and taking the consequences would show integrity.

John is integrity to you doing the best you can within the system.? if so, it sounds so fungible and loose that it make its meaningless.

If a reporter on TV spouts non stop BS is that reporter living with integrity. What about all the people who work in one capacity or another to make it possible for that reporter to go on TV and lie for living?

just one example but there are millions







































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hey JL..

does kerry have nice titties?? they look pretty good to me..

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That's the sort of thing that Miggs would say.

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hey JL..

does kerry have nice titties?? they look pretty good to me..

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That's the sort of thing that Miggs would say.
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"not any more..." lol
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I didn't read Johns comments as sarcasm.
You are a good factual contributer here Charles and valued.

I too have trouble colouring my words when in the written form that have been taken as insulting.

Surely we all agree that DD is an impeccable source who is who he says he is. I too have followed his stuff.


His explanation of Roswell is the most logical and sensible.
Occams razor tells us that the simplest exlanation is USUALLY the best or right one.

Somehow over time this staement has been changed from USUALLY to ALWAYS. We type of people are the ones interested in exceptions to rules aren't we. 99% is not Always.
Even if it may well be in this case!

Nature gives us isotopes to make sure we get it.

Once you learn that in Japans case that the war did not really end in 1945 it does make sense that things could still be happening in 1947 and 1952 such as the DD version of Roswell.

Too add even more complexity to this issue, What David Wilcock and Ben Fulford have been talking about with the gold and bonds etc... say that these warships were used to take gold back to the USA.

Whether or not you are a DW or BF fan, we won't attack the messanger now- or will we? For the sake of simplicity and ease!

It was Destroyers not Carriers that are mentioned by BF and DW but that could be key here. Destroyers always accompany carriers. Did they go their seperate ways from there?
What really happened to those ships? were they not scrapped in Japan after all or were they first sailed to the USA with the gold and back to Japan for scrapping to make into cars etc..

This is all getting very interesting as the 'big picture' emerges as to all of these dots now connecting up-maybe!


DD is right. I believe him. That would not rule out that those documents had been for certain people but not others.

One thing I do believe that Hoagland says is that 'the lie is different as every level'. It is ALL valuable data and thank you for bringing up DDs name so he is included in the search for the truth.

Roswell is not a good case for the existance of ET anyway. Bentwaters is a far better one IMO as there is way more data
with still alive people involved.

For all we know it was Japs in Fugu balloons that crashed into ETs in saucers! Then everybodys right.
Not forgetting the Nazis in their saucers too of course!

We may not quite have kicked the crap out of this one just yet! Although it would be nice to say case closed we keep getting more questions.
 Quoting: HaveBlue


Hello HaveBlue

Thanks for your comments. I don't believe John Lear respects DD's work and yet it seems he was unfamiliar with it only days ago. It takes a lot longer than that to listen to the interviews. The are deep, dense and challenging. I've listened to some many times. They are also fun

John claims Sleeper is a good source, and (in my view) questions the value/veracity/importance of DD. That's not coherent in my view.

Your point about Roswell is the most damaging to John's claim of Sleeper's veracity . Sleeper wrote a book about Roswell and DD's Dept of Defence document destruction experience refutes that.

I say John is intellectually obliged to familiarise himself with DD's work and instead of making rash responses towards me, take the time to see what is going on. I'm very open minded about the wildest claims but not if more solid claims are being rubbished. Then I'm intolerant of intolerance.

Sleeper's greatest crime in my view is he's not very bright or spiritually deep. If you listen to his Veritas interview he sneers at Mel's questions and bangs on about how superior ET are.

Not a great choice of candidate for a higher intelligence to make if a wider audience is desired.

c.
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I totally disagree with you. Lou Baldins material is credible. I think you need to do your homework and read his work thoroughly. From what you wrote, I believe it will take you less time than most to get the gyst of his messages.
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Are you saying just because you don't lie, cheat and steal it directly than it is all okay. The fact that the money you got to pay for your home came from a company that for example, stole the resources and forced people from their homes, so long as you were not directly involved then you are living with integrity?
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I am not on the jury so I really don't know how they will look at this. But whoever this person is will find out right after he croaks.


My point was that taxes etc are used to help prop up oppresive regimes, bomb people, and so on. So in effect you are funding this through payment of taxes. Seems to me if one was living their life with integrity not paying your taxes and taking the consequences would show integrity.

John is integrity to you doing the best you can within the system.? if so, it sounds so fungible and loose that it make its meaningless.

If a reporter on TV spouts non stop BS is that reporter living with integrity. What about all the people who work in one capacity or another to make it possible for that reporter to go on TV and lie for living?

just one example but there are millions
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There are billions and billions of those kinds of situations.

What I can tell you is that thousands and thousands of people make it every day so it can't be that hard to make a decision.

I'll probably know a little more about it when I get back to earth but right now I don't have any answers for you.


If you are still around when I get back to earth I will let you know what I found out.


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Hi John, I keep an open mind about 9/11 theories. I did listen to the Dr. Judy Wood interview when it initially aired. I had also listened to what you communicated on C2C. One element I need help understanding from your perspective is the notion of the sheer number of physical eyes & ears on the ground who were present and looking up at the first burning tower as the 2nd plane struck tower #2. All the home video cameras recording the 2nd impact from various angles and vantage points. How could that have been made to be an illusion for the people who were physically on the scene of the impact sites? Appreciate your feedback regarding this question. To be honest I do not devote too much of my energy into this subject matter but I was wondering that question when I heard your interview so I figured why not engage my curiosity with the opportunity to follow up with you.

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John,

I have enjoyed reading this thread.

If you have answered these already I apologize and must have missed it but I did read all your posts.

What, in your opinion, are the aliens getting out of creating souls and keeping the "revolving door" soul machine going?

It seems to me that there would be a lot of resources used to keep it up so I would imagine they have a very good reason for doing this.

Also, if they are able to create a soul why not just create a perfect soul with infinite knowledge right out of the box?

When a soul reaches itís potential and graduates to the off Earth play ground who oversees that play ground (heaven)?

Is there a top species that oversees the entire universe?

Again my apologies if these have been answered already.

Thanks!
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In case I was skipped.
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Hey John, you ever read and consider the LOOSH 'story' that was revealed to Robert Monroe? (See his book, "Far Journeys")

It basically says that the Earth was terraformed, and then organisms were created in order to see which sort would produce the best quality LOOSH. The final lifeform that was the best LOOSH producer, was what we call 'humans'.

(LOOSH=all/any feelings or emotions)

If true, it would seem that our prime directive is to 'feel', and that it doesn't matter 'what' we feel. Love, hate, fear, happiness - so long as we emit, we fulfill the prime directive for our PHYSICAL existence.

It seems to me, therefore, that any immortal spiritual being could come along and apply to occupy a physical lifeform, for their own various reasons. Sort of like walking along and seeing a new computer MMORPG; or a new fair-ground ride ride; or a new lesson; or a new experience etc.

I like the ideas that Sleeper puts forward about non-physical beings 'putting on' bodies in order to be able to interact with a different frequency/environment/reality. I think it explains a lot of the alien visitors' bodies, motives and I think it parallels just who WE are.

If so, then WE are ALL from elsewhere. Our bodies are no more than meatsacks we have donned in order to have a different experience.

peace

PS: I also have listened to about 12 hours of Douglas Dietrich, and have learned lots of new stuff. Amazing to think the Nazis retreated to under the Antarctic after WWII, and were never dislodged due to their advanced tech.

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No planes, no mininukes, thermite present but a distraction. There were no radioactive signatures and virtually no seismic anomalies recorded. Mini nuclear devices would not convert steel and reinforced concrete into talc yet confine this "transformation" within a city block radius. There was supposed to be another holograph hitting #7 but that obviously didn't happen and instead they just "pulled it" as if they waved their magic wand and rigged the building for demolition in an hour or two amidst the chaos.

The space-based DEW theory is the only one that makes sense so far as it is well known this technology exists.

Interesting that in one of the trailers for G.I. Joe: Retaliation, part of London is destroyed by one of these space-based toys.

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hooser talk that makes sense

take off eh

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John the thread just keeps getting better and a lot more interresting.

You said to give your best tomatoes to your neighbour...I think some of your best tomatoes are on this thread.

Good job....the more I read the more my world view breaks down as well as my ego.
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No planes, no mininukes, thermite present but a distraction. There were no radioactive signatures and virtually no seismic anomalies recorded. Mini nuclear devices would not convert steel and reinforced concrete into talc yet confine this "transformation" within a city block radius. There was supposed to be another holograph hitting #7 but that obviously didn't happen and instead they just "pulled it" as if they waved their magic wand and rigged the building for demolition in an hour or two amidst the chaos.

The space-based DEW theory is the only one that makes sense so far as it is well known this technology exists.

Interesting that in one of the trailers for G.I. Joe: Retaliation, part of London is destroyed by one of these space-based toys.

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Truth truly is stranger than fiction and most people's programmed and conditioned cognition, knowledge and perception render them incapable of distinguishing fantasy from reality anymore.
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hooser talk that makes sense

take off eh

lol
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Wasn't there some reporting of a tritium spike post dated at the WTC site? It is extremely rare in background measuring. It puts the ump! in the knew clear devices.
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John the thread just keeps getting better and a lot more interresting.

You said to give your best tomatoes to your neighbour...I think some of your best tomatoes are on this thread.

Good job....the more I read the more my world view breaks down as well as my ego.
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Thanks AC. As you can see there are a few not willing to 'pull the covers' from over their heads'.
But it sounds like you are on your way. :)
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No planes, no mininukes, thermite present but a distraction. There were no radioactive signatures and virtually no seismic anomalies recorded. Mini nuclear devices would not convert steel and reinforced concrete into talc yet confine this "transformation" within a city block radius. There was supposed to be another holograph hitting #7 but that obviously didn't happen and instead they just "pulled it" as if they waved their magic wand and rigged the building for demolition in an hour or two amidst the chaos.

The space-based DEW theory is the only one that makes sense so far as it is well known this technology exists.

Interesting that in one of the trailers for G.I. Joe: Retaliation, part of London is destroyed by one of these space-based toys.

@ ~1:56

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Truth truly is stranger than fiction and most people's programmed and conditioned cognition, knowledge and perception render them incapable of distinguishing fantasy from reality anymore.
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hooser talk that makes sense

take off eh

lol
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Wasn't there some reporting of a tritium spike post dated at the WTC site? It is extremely rare in background measuring. It puts the ump! in the knew clear devices.
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If there was it was planted or disinfo. There is no possibility that any 'nuke' was involved in 911. Period.
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Hey John, you ever read and consider the LOOSH 'story' that was revealed to Robert Monroe? (See his book, "Far Journeys")

It basically says that the Earth was terraformed, and then organisms were created in order to see which sort would produce the best quality LOOSH. The final lifeform that was the best LOOSH producer, was what we call 'humans'.

(LOOSH=all/any feelings or emotions)

If true, it would seem that our prime directive is to 'feel', and that it doesn't matter 'what' we feel. Love, hate, fear, happiness - so long as we emit, we fulfill the prime directive for our PHYSICAL existence.

It seems to me, therefore, that any immortal spiritual being could come along and apply to occupy a physical lifeform, for their own various reasons. Sort of like walking along and seeing a new computer MMORPG; or a new fair-ground ride; or a new lesson; or a new experience etc.

I like the ideas that Sleeper puts forward about non-physical beings 'putting on' bodies in order to be able to interact with a different frequency/environment/reality. I think it explains a lot of the alien visitors' bodies, motives and I think it parallels just who WE are.

If so, then WE are ALL from elsewhere. Our bodies are no more than meatsacks we have donned in order to have a different experience.

peace

PS: I also have listened to about 12 hours of Douglas Dietrich, and have learned lots of new stuff. Amazing to think the Nazis retreated to under the Antarctic after WWII, and were never dislodged due to their advanced tech.
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Thanks InCogNeatOh. Correct, we are all from somewhere else, maybe from this solar system, maybe from somewhere much further away. Once we graduate from here we will be on our way back home to where ever we came from. Thumbs down on Loosh.


I listened to a couple of hours of Dietrich and he seems to be a Navy disinfo agent. He mixes up the Tonopah Test Range with Area 51. His story about the flag on the Missouri at the end of WW2 is incorrect and his story about a Japanese dirigible/Blimp over Los Angeles in 1942 is impossible.

Japan dropped all Lighter Than Air research and activities in 1936. They did not have the expertise to build anything that big or even a place to build it. Not to mention how do you navigate 5500 miles between Tokyo and Los Angeles without being able to see the sun or stars?.

That's 110 hours flight time just to get there. than about 180 hours to get back. (head winds). Then you are going to need a lot of fuel and food.

But most of all, during the battle of LA in 1942 we fired 2000 rounds of 12 pound high explosive shells which according to witnesses just bounced off the target. They would obviously not bounce off of a balloon. So that story is malarkey.

And Nazi's going to Antarctica after WW2 is old news. Most of them came to the US and after taking over NASA took over many other large US corporations. And secretly allied with Israel control the US.The Antarctica opertion today is huge.

The reason for the 'holocaust myth' is to prevent anybody thinking they, (Nazi/jewish people) would ever be allied.

I think Dietrich is just another Navy disinfo guy trying to steer public knowledge away from alien craft at Roswell.

For instance if that was an alien saucer at LA, then that would have been 5 years before Roswell.
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[I have enjoyed reading this thread.

If you have answered these already I apologize and must have missed it but I did read all your posts.

What, in your opinion, are the aliens getting out of creating souls and keeping the "revolving door" soul machine going?
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Probably so we can all spend the rest of our lives having fun.

It seems to me that there would be a lot of resources used to keep it up so I would imagine they have a very good reason for doing this.
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Resources how?


Also, if they are able to create a soul why not just create a perfect soul with infinite knowledge right out of the box?
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Apparently souls cannot be created perfect 'out of the box'. It takes millions of years.


When a soul reaches its potential and graduates to the off Earth play ground who oversees that play ground (heaven)?
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Nobody, you are on your own to party for the rest of eternity. And that's a very long time.


Is there a top species that oversees the entire universe?
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The oldest species don't oversee the entire universe. The mid level entities do.

But mostly they all just party in those densely packed galactic clusters.
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I listened to a couple of hours of Dietrich and he seems to be a Navy disinfo agent. He mixes up the Tonopah Test Range with Area 51. His story about the flag on the Missouri at the end of WW2 is incorrect and his story about a Japanese dirigible/Blimp over Los Angeles in 1942 is impossible.

And Nazi's going to Antarctica after WW2 is old news. Most of them came to the US and after taking over NASA took over many other large US corporations. And secretly allied with Israel control the US.The Antarctica opertion today is huge.

The reason for the 'holocaust myth' is to prevent anybody thinking they, (Nazi/jewish people) would ever be allied.

I think Dietrich is just another Navy disinfo guy trying to steer public knowledge away from alien craft at Roswell.

For instance if that was an alien saucer at LA, then that would have been 5 years before Roswell.
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Hi GLP,

I'm looking forward to both John & Douglas having a gentleman's conversation.

I hope John can use the opportunity to refrain from insults like "disinfo" when the same could be said very very easily about him. He is after all a CIA company man to the bone with a lot of coincidences to his story (like meeting and backing Bob Lazar) randomly.

However I'm open minded as I only know it is I who is definitely not disinformation in this instance.

To engage in dialogue with good manners is a mark of integrity.

Let's see if honest debate emerges instead of insults and hasty conclusions.

PS John - Nazis in Antartica is not common Knowledge. Show me one Swastika on ice in the last decade.

Lots of love from Bangkok (even if you are a CIA disinfo agent)

c.
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