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I am the real John Lear...ask me a question

 
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i do not believe john or doug are intentional disinfo...unless they are dis..ing some things that need to be dised without clearance...

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both have merit
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Hey Charles
Why don't you make up your own mind about what you wish to believe? Is it John Lears task, or DD for that matter, to clear your mind? Who ever wins the fight is who you pledge your allegiance too? You will never know the truth. You are only allowed your own truth. So who's is it going to be? Your own or someone elses? If you can't make up your own mind, why get upset with people who can and do?
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Hey Charles
Why don't you make up your own mind about what you wish to believe? Is it John Lears task, or DD for that matter, to clear your mind? Who ever wins the fight is who you pledge your allegiance too? You will never know the truth. You are only allowed your own truth. So who's is it going to be? Your own or someone elses? If you can't make up your own mind, why get upset with people who can and do?
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You can only come to know the truth from within. You're not going to read it on the internet.
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Hey Charles
Why don't you make up your own mind about what you wish to believe? Is it John Lears task, or DD for that matter, to clear your mind? Who ever wins the fight is who you pledge your allegiance too? You will never know the truth. You are only allowed your own truth. So who's is it going to be? Your own or someone elses? If you can't make up your own mind, why get upset with people who can and do?
 Quoting: PhoenixAZ


You can only come to know the truth from within. You're not going to read it on the internet.
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what do u mean by that. I always see people say this. Noone is born with the truth. Nobody just starts developing the truth. The search for truth is a never ending journey for some and thats understandable.

You may know the truth, deep in your heart and if that what u mean then fine, but don't pretend like that truth just came to you oneday, that from deep down within the truth appeared to you.

I hate phrases like this. Meaningless.
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@Charles. My dry sense of humour has backfired again. I still suffer from foot and mouth disease. I am sorry if you took offence -

My comments about listening to John and Sleeper only refers to living with integrety, without hate envy and greed.

As that is the bottom line of them and one I agree with. Nothing else. I have only heard Part 1 of his veritas interview.

@justoneof many. This is unbelieveable to many if not most people on the planet.
But you were there and I was not and I am not such a know it all or so narrowminded to call you anything derogatory.

I will say thanks for sharing and all that good stuff. Many are saying the same as you are. Are you all crazy or whatever label people that can't be bothered use? I'm happy to listen with an open mind.

I would love to read or hear your sory if there is anywhere I can do that please do provide link.

I like to listen carefully and then wait. Months or years or whatever it takes.
Eg, this Col Greg Rinchich chap has alot to say but different shows he's on he makes small changes to certain so called unimportant details. What do you guys think of him? I'm undecided at this time.

On one he says the moon rang like a bell for 3 days. (when they bombed it) On another it is 3 months. This stuff matters- to me it does anyway. And that is just the mainstream stuff so what of his black ops experiences?

I have experienced many syncronicities in my own life and the Bob Lazar story is believed by many including me. It never changes. Not in 23 years!
If you want to think it is BS that is your choice.
Did man go to the moon? I don't know, but the no blast craters is mighty suspicious. So is alot of things about it besides that.

I do admire John because I am a keen aviator and airplane nut and anything else that flys nut- UFOs included.
I knew 911 was crap the fisrt time I saw it on telly as the tail let alone the wings which are designed to shear off so that all that fuel can be thrown clear to give survivors a chance never happened.

Once you can see 911 is BS you ask what else. Let's look at the man on the moon and on it goes. A very deep rabbit hole. What aren't they lying about?
It really is a war- for your mind! Mr Jones is bang on.

Right now I'm looking into Miles Johnstons scuttlers- also a big fan of anyone like him,John, Kerry and all the disclosure project witnesses who have the guts to say what they do. Add a huge list of names to that too. especially those no longer with us here at this time on planet earth.

I myself have not been believed when I tell some of my own experiences, which are nothing compared to these but the point is this.

I say to people, Here is the info. take it or leave it. It matters not to me.

I am comfortable in my own skin. I have seen my own 3rd eye and heart chakra in a mirror one day for a whole 5 or 6 seconds. Long enough to walk up and say wow!

I'd always thought that was just a concept, an idea. Now I know otherwise.
The 3rd eye was exactly like my other 2 except slightly larger. I know there are other dimensions or frequencies, that is beyond belief. it is my knowledge. And they are literally right in front of our noses. Others who have not experienced that can take it or leave it. it matters not to me!

I actually thought you charles might have told us why you are in Bangkok. the Orient is an interesting place. I like learning new things every day.

William Cooper may well have UFO disease just like John said but he was also called the most dangerous man in America by Bill Clinton himself! And if you follow Daniel Hopsickers work-which I do you know Mr Clinton is no saint!

I like to look at who is saying what and then who is NOT sueing who. especially in the most litigeous society in the world. you'd think it'd be lawsuits and retractions galore!
But if what you are saying is true and you can prove it or think you can in a court of law then you can say what you like.

Cooper was shot in cold blood by Erath county cops posing as trouble makers!(posing???)
Ruby ridge all over. You know you are over the target when you are getting flak. It does look liker Johns getting flak. Everything is a 2 edged sword so you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I often don't elaborate too much and may cause confusion in my posts. If so just ask me to clarify. It's just that I post here alot recently and must be mindful that it is Johns thread and not mine to hijack.

All my posts are spontaneous off the top of my head going on memory alone. I do no research before I post so may get details askew.

Remember, this thread is what john believes. Nothimg else. he is not telling anyone what to do or think only what he thinks.

It's not for everyone. If it gets your blood pressure up too much, please don't visit here. None of us want to see anyone hurt or unhappy because of our posts.

Anyone that says 'don't take my word for it, do your own research' well that guy or girl has me paying attention. eg....Like go to this spot on Wednesday nights!

Lastly, DD doesn't or didn't spend much time at all on Roswell in the vids I've seen (months ago). My opinion is he's not very interested in it, let alone trying to disinfo us. He just said, isn't it a shame that alot of people think it was aliens.

His bag is more about the lies and deceipt of the higher ups that make the decisions. I'll paraphrase Kennedy. I choose to believe John because it is hard, not because it is easy. I believe before the decade is out enough of humanity will grow the balls enough to see they've been scammed.

We will print our own treasury dollars etc.... bang. We all know it was not Oswald.

look, we are not (F word) stupid. I for one regularly go to charity quizz evenings and do very well thank you very much. I am not some whacked out nut. We can see for ourselves and think for ourselves what is possible and what makes sense. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

I'll gladly take part in any skype debate with anyone. you had better know your stuff because you are going to be asked alot of very awkward questions. People start wriggling when I ask questions. And nobody in 23 years has debunked Bob Lazar. I put my house on it. So there.

He only built his own cyclotron in his back yard! Not a real scientist! You can't smuggle anything out of S4. Correct Dab Burisch, He got his 115 from contacts he has at Los Alamos where the maching into cones was done.

I'm not in my school year book either. So freaking what! Sorry, I'm rambling now!
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Hey Charles
Why don't you make up your own mind about what you wish to believe? Is it John Lears task, or DD for that matter, to clear your mind? Who ever wins the fight is who you pledge your allegiance too? You will never know the truth. You are only allowed your own truth. So who's is it going to be? Your own or someone elses? If you can't make up your own mind, why get upset with people who can and do?
 Quoting: PhoenixAZ


You can only come to know the truth from within. You're not going to read it on the internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3021517


Hey PhoenixAZ

Which part of you is most confused? The one that forgot this is a public forum or the one that is colossally confused I'm looking for a leader?

That's your reflection you're looking at in the mirror. Please don't project it on to me.

It's not a fight. I'm engaging in dialogue. It's nuanced and non binary.
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@Charles.

I say to people, Here is the info. take it or leave it. It matters not to me.


Cooper was shot in cold blood by Erath county cops posing as trouble makers!(posing???)

Anyone that says 'don't take my word for it, do your own research' well that guy or girl has me paying attention. eg....Like go to this spot on Wednesday nights!

Sorry, I'm rambling now!
 Quoting: HaveBlue


@HaveBlue

You write.

"I say to people, Here is the info. take it or leave it"

and then you write

"Anyone that says 'don't take my word for it, do your own research' well that guy or girl has me paying attention."

No need to explain to me, I'm more interested in the following:

Bill Cooper saw a UFO on a Navy Ship. He later changed his mind. I want to know why. Robert Morning Star wrote a eulogy about Bill and candidly explained Cooper was a bit of an arse hole. That doesn't mean he lied.

[link to www.ufodigest.com]

As I stated earlier the military and CIA are going through a rough patch and the CFR official organ has repeated that view. Good timing for me.

[link to www.foreignaffairs.com]
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Are you saying just because you don't lie, cheat and steal it directly than it is all okay. The fact that the money you got to pay for your home came from a company that for example, stole the resources and forced people from their homes, so long as you were not directly involved then you are living with integrity?
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I am not on the jury so I really don't know how they will look at this. But whoever this person is will find out right after he croaks.


My point was that taxes etc are used to help prop up oppresive regimes, bomb people, and so on. So in effect you are funding this through payment of taxes. Seems to me if one was living their life with integrity not paying your taxes and taking the consequences would show integrity.

John is integrity to you doing the best you can within the system.? if so, it sounds so fungible and loose that it make its meaningless.

If a reporter on TV spouts non stop BS is that reporter living with integrity. What about all the people who work in one capacity or another to make it possible for that reporter to go on TV and lie for living?

just one example but there are millions
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There are billions and billions of those kinds of situations.

What I can tell you is that thousands and thousands of people make it every day so it can't be that hard to make a decision.

I'll probably know a little more about it when I get back to earth but right now I don't have any answers for you.


If you are still around when I get back to earth I will let you know what I found out.

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Thanks John seems nobody knows for sure exactly how one is meant to live and what is used as the tool to measure that to say yes this soul is maturing and this one is not.

As we have not heard anything concrete from these soul that did "mature" and have come back to guide us all we have and all we have always had are words that sound great but mean little or could mean multiple things.

Why do you think politicians use slogans such as "hope and change" because on the surface they sound great, open to multiple interpretations, yet almost impossible to define in practice.
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 Quoting: HaveBlue


You are probably correct that John is disinfo or he's just been intentionally misled. I think William Cooper had it right when he realized that the whole ufo/alien thing was a massive psyop. That people were shown classified ufo material, so they would leak it to the public. They needed to plant that seed in case they wanted to have a never ending unwinable war against an alien race. It's probably next after they have exhausted the B.S. war on terror. It's unfortunate that the only way to tell if someone is credible is if they get murdered by the government.
 Quoting: charlesfrith


Great comment.

I'm not saying John is disinformation but the Bob Lazar chance meeting is a little odd and the core Sleeper (cell) message of apathy, non intervention, deity superiority and amoral inaction is old school religion to a T.

Diinfo love that narrative as it encourages people to ignore what the great theft going on by elites rifling the peoples pockets.

William Cooper changed view and I don't know how he then rejected the time he observed a UFO in the Navy. Odd story unless you know a little more than I've learned.

Here is DD's latest interview. He names names including Stan Friedman's role as a paid disinformation agent.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Charlesfrith, You are wrong about everything above.

ETs created and run every aspect of earth accept ones individual soul and its freedom to act anyway it so chooses. Why is that so hard for humans to accept?

Ets are not apathetic, they simply are doing there job in
creating this illusion as a testing ground for our soul maturation.

ET tech and understanding is billions of years ahead of what we think about. It was and will be the design for planets at the level of Earth. They were here before us and will clean up the mess and start a new first-grade classroom when our group graduates.
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Charles,
My point is that everyone on this public forum is stating their opinion and beliefs. There is no proof. No one can offer proof only thier experiences; and if someone could offer proof would we belive it? I am not saying we can not, or should not use our rational mind to make sense of our beliefs and opinions, but arguing or trying to disprove anothers beliefs is not, in my opinion, going to get you closer to the truth. If a piece of information resonates then we challange it within ourselves and come to our own conclusions. If there is no proof of the kind of experiences and beliefs that are spoken about on this thread, then how are we to deny they are real? I just don't see how anyone can claim they have the ultimate grasp of truth, or that this person or that has all the inside knowledge of truth.
To many of us on John Lears thread we have been following his thoughts for a long time and have come to respect and understand where he is comming from. Do we blindly follow him and everything he says? Quite the opposit.
Debate to understand is one thing, and debate to prove yourself right is another.
Just my thoughts.
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Charles,
My point is that everyone on this public forum is stating their opinion and beliefs.
Just my thoughts.
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You're not paying attention. I've specifically asked twice why Bill Cooper stated he saw a UFO in the Navy and later in life changed his mind to believe that the UFO narrative was a psyop on the American people.

If you're really watching closely the questions I've asked John and which are ignored are valuable.

c
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@Charles.

I say to people, Here is the info. take it or leave it. It matters not to me.


Cooper was shot in cold blood by Erath county cops posing as trouble makers!(posing???)

Anyone that says 'don't take my word for it, do your own research' well that guy or girl has me paying attention. eg....Like go to this spot on Wednesday nights!

Sorry, I'm rambling now!
 Quoting: HaveBlue


@HaveBlue

You write.

"I say to people, Here is the info. take it or leave it"

and then you write

"Anyone that says 'don't take my word for it, do your own research' well that guy or girl has me paying attention."

No need to explain to me, I'm more interested in the following:

Bill Cooper saw a UFO on a Navy Ship. He later changed his mind. I want to know why. Robert Morning Star wrote a eulogy about Bill and candidly explained Cooper was a bit of an arse hole. That doesn't mean he lied.

[link to www.ufodigest.com]

As I stated earlier the military and CIA are going through a rough patch and the CFR official organ has repeated that view. Good timing for me.

[link to www.foreignaffairs.com]
 Quoting: charlesfrith



Bill Cooper WAS a drunken arsehole that stole research and presented from the stage as his own; he changed his 'story' of his inside Navy experiences continuously; he made death threats (still on tape to this day, see Don Ecker's website); and beat his wife.

Those of us around back in the late 80s and early 90s when Cooper was 'active' will know what I'm talking about. Yes, he regurgitated exciting stuff - but so much of it was fabricated yet presented as his own testimonial - but it wasn't.

To see this drunken arsehole slob wife-beater has become a hero to the lazy conspiracy newbies of the net - is just shameful.
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My hero still is John Lear. By choice.
I like his disclaimer (could've said it myself):
"I am searching for the truth. I do not claim to know the truth."
and
"My opinions are good only until midnight the day I make them because I may have
found information that contradicts what I think I know today. And I am willing to
change my opinion instantly if I find I am wrong about something or at least I believe I was wrong."

He's not selling dvd's or other stuff with his view of the story either. Does DDD sell it? Guess what... oh yeah, he does!
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@Charles.

I say to people, Here is the info. take it or leave it. It matters not to me.


Cooper was shot in cold blood by Erath county cops posing as trouble makers!(posing???)

Anyone that says 'don't take my word for it, do your own research' well that guy or girl has me paying attention. eg....Like go to this spot on Wednesday nights!

Sorry, I'm rambling now!
 Quoting: HaveBlue


@HaveBlue

You write.

"I say to people, Here is the info. take it or leave it"

and then you write

"Anyone that says 'don't take my word for it, do your own research' well that guy or girl has me paying attention."

No need to explain to me, I'm more interested in the following:

Bill Cooper saw a UFO on a Navy Ship. He later changed his mind. I want to know why. Robert Morning Star wrote a eulogy about Bill and candidly explained Cooper was a bit of an arse hole. That doesn't mean he lied.

[link to www.ufodigest.com]

As I stated earlier the military and CIA are going through a rough patch and the CFR official organ has repeated that view. Good timing for me.

[link to www.foreignaffairs.com]
 Quoting: charlesfrith



Bill Cooper WAS a drunken arsehole that stole research and presented from the stage as his own; he changed his 'story' of his inside Navy experiences continuously; he made death threats (still on tape to this day, see Don Ecker's website); and beat his wife.

Those of us around back in the late 80s and early 90s when Cooper was 'active' will know what I'm talking about. Yes, he regurgitated exciting stuff - but so much of it was fabricated yet presented as his own testimonial - but it wasn't.

To see this drunken arsehole slob wife-beater has become a hero to the lazy conspiracy newbies of the net - is just shameful.
 Quoting: InCogNeatOh


Who cares if he drank and beat his wife. He ws the first to call out the government about 9/11 before it happened. He said months in advance that Bin Laden would be the fall guy for a major attack in the U.S. Then was murdered by the government a month after 9/11. He's credible in my mind. Who cares if he once thought he saw a UFO and then changed his mind. That's all nonsense anyway. I like how you need to attack his character to make him seem less credible. I'm surprised they didn't claim he touched kids.
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You are probably correct that John is disinfo or he's just been intentionally misled. I think William Cooper had it right when he realized that the whole ufo/alien thing was a massive psyop. That people were shown classified ufo material, so they would leak it to the public. They needed to plant that seed in case they wanted to have a never ending unwinable war against an alien race. It's probably next after they have exhausted the B.S. war on terror. It's unfortunate that the only way to tell if someone is credible is if they get murdered by the government.
 Quoting: charlesfrith


Great comment.

I'm not saying John is disinformation but the Bob Lazar chance meeting is a little odd and the core Sleeper (cell) message of apathy, non intervention, deity superiority and amoral inaction is old school religion to a T.

Diinfo love that narrative as it encourages people to ignore what the great theft going on by elites rifling the peoples pockets.

William Cooper changed view and I don't know how he then rejected the time he observed a UFO in the Navy. Odd story unless you know a little more than I've learned.

Here is DD's latest interview. He names names including Stan Friedman's role as a paid disinformation agent.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3021517


Totally agree with that. When you drill down and ask him what he means by all we have to do for our souls to mature is live with integrity without greed and envy. When you ask him to explain what this means and how it can work given the world we live in you realize the words are pretty hollow and vague.

His message seems to be take the chip. go to the camps, take the vaccine, don't bother protesting for change etc etc
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Charles,
My point is that everyone on this public forum is stating their opinion and beliefs. There is no proof. No one can offer proof only their experiences; and if someone could offer proof would we believe it? I am not saying we can not, or should not use our rational mind to make sense of our beliefs and opinions, but arguing or trying to disprove anothers beliefs is not, in my opinion, going to get you closer to the truth. If a piece of information resonates then we challenge it within ourselves and come to our own conclusions. If there is no proof of the kind of experiences and beliefs that are spoken about on this thread, then how are we to deny they are real? I just don't see how anyone can claim they have the ultimate grasp of truth, or that this person or that has all the inside knowledge of truth.
To many of us on John Lears thread we have been following his thoughts for a long time and have come to respect and understand where he is coming from. Do we blindly follow him and everything he says? Quite the opposite.
Debate to understand is one thing, and debate to prove yourself right is another.
Just my thoughts.
 Quoting: PhoenixAZ


Phoenix: EXACTLY!

Better to be a seeker, respect others who are seeking also. And as John said: "I am searching for the truth. I do not claim to know the truth."

I've been seeking truth all my life, and trying to enjoy life while I do.
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If there was it was planted or disinfo. There is no possibility that any 'nuke' was involved in 911. Period.
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I think more searching for answers on what sort of bigger bomb was used, needs to be done by those seeking 911 truth.

The pictures look like one or more bombs went off. Size and type, I do not know.

There is an interesting thread about Barometric or A-neutronic bombs on a site that I can't mention here because GLP forbids it. I tried to post a link.

Here's what I think. Our military is 30 years ahead of us. In Secrecy. We learned our lessons from atomic bombs, and even the military realizes we don't want to be blowing up our planet with atomic bombs. They need us! They need us taxpayers paying the bill! You get rid of us, and who will pay for their secret programs? No one.

But do you think that stopped our military from working diligently on types of bombs that will do what they need, that don't leave radioactivity around for years to follow?

The question is, what do they have?
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If there was it was planted or disinfo. There is no possibility that any 'nuke' was involved in 911. Period.
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I think more searching for answers on what sort of bigger bomb was used, needs to be done by those seeking 911 truth.

The pictures look like one or more bombs went off. Size and type, I do not know.

There is an interesting thread about Barometric or A-neutronic bombs on a site that I can't mention here because GLP forbids it. I tried to post a link.

Here's what I think. Our military is 30 years ahead of us. In Secrecy. We learned our lessons from atomic bombs, and even the military realizes we don't want to be blowing up our planet with atomic bombs. They need us! They need us taxpayers paying the bill! You get rid of us, and who will pay for their secret programs? No one.

But do you think that stopped our military from working diligently on types of bombs that will do what they need, that don't leave radioactivity around for years to follow?

The question is, what do they have?
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SteveJ,

Have you read "Where Did The Towers Go?", by Dr. Judy Wood?

Curious.
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I've been seeking truth all my life, and trying to enjoy life while I do.


Amen to that Steve.
You might find Judy Wood's book "where did the towers go?" a good read and explains a possible weapon used for the destruction. John has commented on this frquently. As far as advanced military tech I found Andrew Bastiago has an interesting idea. Not sure I believe everything but certainly a mind expanding message!
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Sorry John you beat me to it!!
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SteveJ,

Have you read "Where Did The Towers Go?", by Dr. Judy Wood?

Curious.
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Haven't read the book, but I've pretty thoroughly went through her website and listened to interviews with Judy.

It's hard to believe everything turned to dust just because they fell. I don't buy that. Energy to create the explosions/destruction had to come from somewhere. It's good that Judy is questioning it, and I hope others do too.

If there is some sort of new 'energy weapon', like from space... how would they get the necessary 'material/resources' into space, or high altitude, to be able to "beam" this energy weapon?

There is one news video of the towers where something is coming at it shaped like a ball.. as best you can see. Certainly didn't look like a plane to me. Once source about that video and a theory is here:

[link to www.youtube.com]

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Like most people Bill Cooper got alot right and got alot wrong too. His ego got the better of him and he got UFO disease.

Beyond A Pale Horse is often called A Pale Of Horse****.

As far as reasearch goes, research this place itself.

Like nex-ed I, HB are B- worded. This is actually more important and relevant to our lives than Bill Coopers material.

Whether Cooper or Lear is right or not is not important.
For me it's about free speech and that persons right to say it.

We should be able to speak here freely too. This is NOT the case.
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Criticising Bill Cooper and that generation of researchers, is like criticising grandpa for being mean in the Korean War. Those early dudes had very little tech to find out truth, and did their part, in the early days of the truthtelling, when in 1960 and 1970, it was a new-fangled lie-o-vision reality, passing off milquetoast student protests and a drug war like Vietnam --The elite families have been losing control, and since the age of IP, the old world is over. Thanks to the early gen-1 truth seekers. I was born in 1973 so that's like gen-2, but gen 3 and 4 are going to be serious truth junkies.

Oh but wife beatin is bad. Shame on you Bill, being nice to the ladies makes time pass much better in this hellish place called earth. Give hugs, not slugs.

John, have you read any "patriot" material or ever appeared in traffic court and tried to explain law to people? I am wondering if you feel that the Constitution of the US is able to be amended by the people, or would ET guide that toward bad things as recent amendments like prohibition have done (creating the mob and the FBI) ...Do you think the COTUS will ever be used FOR the people, rather than against them as it has been done since the Civil War? Thanks man, for all you do, just curious about the above.
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Like most people Bill Cooper got alot right and got alot wrong too. His ego got the better of him and he got UFO disease.

We should be able to speak here freely too. This is NOT the case.
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UFO disease is a fiction and not a phenomena worth discussing however if it is real for you then at least obey the rules of having the disease after being healthy because Bill Cooper's UFO sighting was in his Navy career and thus 'before' he lost the plot.

Let me repeat this for the slower reader. The disease can only come after being healthy. Bill apparently changed his mind later.

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Free speech is a myth.

Every word you say will add or subtract from your "life".

Nevertheless this site allows fringe speech of sorts and this is at least interesting.

Maybe DD should start his own thread on Glp and see if he can step up to the plate with his best fringe tomatoes?!

Yea that takes some balls to do as does flying a single engine Cessna a few feet above the tree line on the Ho Chi Min trail with Cricket barking in your ear as you set up a VK weenie roast.

John Lear is the real deal and not some arm chair dick who has never lived the life.


Nevertheless I still listen to DD as he has very valid points such as the Estonian Nuke that wiped out a few divisions of Russkies and Hitler not allowing nukes to be used in Europe after the Estonian fish fry.

Most persons do not know of this and it is histroical fact

So just like the Special Olypics everybody is a weiner on this site some are just bigger then others.
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ps too bad i cant spell or type worth beans...
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Nevertheless I still listen to DD as he has very valid points such as the Estonian Nuke that wiped out a few divisions of Russkies and Hitler not allowing nukes to be used in Europe after the Estonian fish fry.

Most persons do not know of this and it is histroical fact

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Can you please give me a reference for an 'Estonian nuke?".

Estonia was a very small counry and even Germany did not have nukes.

"Hitler not allowing nukes?' That is pure disinfo. Hitler would have used nukes if he had hdad them.

Germany was able to process high grade nuclear material but they couldn't make the trigger. Thats why Germany traded the nuclear material to the US (to bomb Japan) for allowing several thousand Nazi's into the U.S. under Paperclip.
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Thats all you have to do in this life other than doing things you like to do.
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released by the NSA in 1978 John....

I will find a source for you.

By the way I am support you and your thread.

I believe it was on the Eastern front near Kursk.

it was a 5 k...
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[link to www.slideshare.net]

read pages 35 to 40....
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[link to www.militaryphotos.net]

another discusion...

but yea maybe it is disinfo...i am just a student of history nothing more..





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