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I am the real John Lear...ask me a question

 
johnlear  (OP)

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john, what's your take on "millennial hospitality" by charles hall. it took place in indian springs. there is a good read at biblioteca pleyades.
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I read books one and two. If you separate the bs out of it it is really interesting. I am sure that the tall whites live underground to the northeast of Indian Springs and northwest of Dog Bone Lake. If I can find a map I made I will post it.

If you haven't heard it before I did a regression on a friend of mine who got abducted by the tall grays at the black mailbox. He was gone about 30 minutes and had a nice chat with Quaylar, one of the tall grays whose craft sat about 50 feet above my friends truck.

He referred to them as the tall grays and I don't remember him saying they were white. So I don't know whether or not they are the same. But they came fom the same place, southeast of the black mailbox.

The story about guiding in the 707 and F-105 is absolute, unadulterated bs. But that is no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

All other references he makes about his duties, the command structure and 'range rats', opening and closing the ranges etc. are right on.

I am going to order book three in the next few days.

I think you posted this question a few days ago but I couldn't find it last night (honest!).

All the best.


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thanks! i found it very believable, good luck to you and yours
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Hi John,
I was wondering (when you have the time)if you could watch this video of some GLP Observatory Moon pics that I enhanced in photoscape. Have you seen any of the objects that look like structures? Are they even structures or would the pic be to far away to pic up any structure unless it is huge? I'm blowing these pics up 500%, sharpening, backlighting, and altering the hue and saturation. Let me know what you think.
Thanks


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Hello again,
I'm really anxious to hear your thoughts on the video and my questions. I thought maybe my post got lost in the mix?
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Hi John,
I was wondering (when you have the time)if you could watch this video of some GLP Observatory Moon pics that I enhanced in photoscape. Have you seen any of the objects that look like structures? Are they even structures or would the pic be to far away to pic up any structure unless it is huge? I'm blowing these pics up 500%, sharpening, backlighting, and altering the hue and saturation. Let me know what you think.
Thanks


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Hello again,
I'm really anxious to hear your thoughts on the video and my questions. I thought maybe my post got lost in the mix?
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Still working on it. Had to flip it and print it and then match it to my large moon photo to see where we are exactly.

Back later.

All the best.
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Haha found a way :P
Tired of all these damn christians, muslims, jews, the church of this and the church of that. I fart in your general direction.

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Haha found a way :P
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oh no it's the spammer from central casting. rolleyes
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This has zero relevance to this thread. Please keep it inside your head before you bang out garbage on your keyboard.
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I agree. It wastes bandwidth and my time, because I have to carefully read each post to be sure I understand the post and to answer any questions in the post
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I agree with George Carlin that religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man, living in the sky who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he loves you.

Now although you didn't specifically state that you espoused religion, all of this 'seventh', 'fifteenth', 'kingdoms', 'Father',' his' with a capital H and all that kind of junk makes it pretty obvious.

Now I don't mind people believing that crap but I would prefer not to have my thread all full of it. If you know what I mean.

The phrases I particularly did not enjoy were:

'by those I hated'

'I asked My Mother for my gift, I asked for a Lie and the power to Lie'

and 'Sealed forever I will remain in the Fifth with my Queen forever and all dimensions will flow through the Fifth, that of Music'.

When everybody knows the fifth dimension is for 'The Byrds'.

Please forgive me if I have offended you in any way but, as you know, I like to tell it the way it is.

All the best to you, your family, your father and his kingdoms and your grandfather and his kingdoms and eve whoever she is), Mr. Titan and Mr. Lucifer (is that your cat?), Zero Dimension (he was the bad guy in Space Rangers, right?)

And trick 'geenie' out of her wishes? Naughty, naughty.

You used the word 'hate' 23 times which means this probably isn't going to be your last trip to earth.
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"You used the word 'hate' 23 times which means this probably isn't going to be" "your last trip to earth."

Thanks for addressing that John , man ... what a creepy post that was , hey did you listen to that veritas show?

Lous voice is in my head big time now!!!

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Thanks John.

John, why so much opposition against you?
I guess some people cant handle the truth.
Tough when all the fabric comes down:)

Cheers John, all the best to you. I will see you on the other side. :)

Hey john, do you think when people get to utopia, they know about all the lives they lived?

Can I be like, Hey, How you doing John while, what a trip?

I also wonder if any of the planets in the Solar System are prisons like Earth.
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When everybody knows the fifth dimension is for 'The Byrds'.
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I had 'em Both on 8-track. moshpit
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Thanks John.

John, why so much opposition against you?
I guess some people cant handle the truth.
Tough when all the fabric comes down:)
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I disturbed their sleep. In those case I suggest scunching up the pillow, rolling over and going back to sleep.


Cheers John, all the best to you. I will see you on the other side. :)
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For sure.

Hey john, do you think when people get to utopia, they know about all the lives they lived?
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Don't know. Suspect that not.

Can I be like, Hey, How you doing John while, what a trip?
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We would never be able to get anything done talking about 'the good 'ol lives.'

Or "Hey, I remember you! Didn't we do the the Roman crusades together? No, no, no, it was the Spanish inquisition, right? The Bolschvek revolution? Mexican-American war? Korea? I get so mixed up. Everything after Atlantis is a blur."


I also wonder if any of the planets in the Solar System are prisons like Earth.
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Yes, Mars is a prison planet, like ours. But with some real frightening creatures. Imagine Michael Chertoff but 10 times worse.

All the best.
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"You used the word 'hate' 23 times which means this probably isn't going to be" "your last trip to earth."

Thanks for addressing that John , man ... what a creepy post that was , hey did you listen to that veritas show?

Lous voice is in my head big time now!!!
 Quoting: hoss58


I listened 1 thru 6 and I didn't even try to sleep last night, it was so awesome. That is no kidding.

I tried to get into Veritas to hear the rest but my password doesn't work anymore. I'm going to email Veritas today. Are there 3 more?

Is there another way I can hear the last 3?
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Hi, John!
just wanted to follow-up on someone's earlier post.
why would anyone want to bomb Jupiter?
full of 'bad guys'?
same problems as here on Earth? lol

Best wishes to you and your family :)
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I wonder how scary they are... what they look like...

I cant imagine Michael Chertoss * 10, nothing to compare to on earth I bet.

I wonder if compared to the other scary creatures if Bigfoot is a teddy bear. Lol.
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"You used the word 'hate' 23 times which means this probably isn't going to be" "your last trip to earth."

Thanks for addressing that John , man ... what a creepy post that was , hey did you listen to that veritas show?

Lous voice is in my head big time now!!!
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I listened 1 thru 6 and I didn't even try to sleep last night, it was so awesome. That is no kidding.

I tried to get into Veritas to hear the rest but my password doesn't work anymore. I'm going to email Veritas today. Are there 3 more?

Is there another way I can hear the last 3?
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I think the last three might be a different interview, but I am not sure.
I bookmarked the show so I can listen to it a a few more times. Its great to hear his voice, he comes across as totally believeable. And at the same time it feels like you are listening to someone you have known for a long time , its hard to put into words.
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Live with Integrity and without envy, hate, or greed.

Hey John, I bet some of those really scary creatures ate and or destroyed some of the 'secret' Astronauts.
Wonder if they taste good.

Lou mentioned no human can kill any alien, I wonder if that is all true....

It would be so cool to see all the planets.

Lou said I was taken on a trip to see Jupiter. I want to see more!
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"You used the word 'hate' 23 times which means this probably isn't going to be" "your last trip to earth."

Thanks for addressing that John , man ... what a creepy post that was , hey did you listen to that veritas show?

Lous voice is in my head big time now!!!
 Quoting: hoss58


I listened 1 thru 6 and I didn't even try to sleep last night, it was so awesome. That is no kidding.

I tried to get into Veritas to hear the rest but my password doesn't work anymore. I'm going to email Veritas today. Are there 3 more?

Is there another way I can hear the last 3?
 Quoting: johnlear


I think the last three might be a different interview, but I am not sure.
I bookmarked the show so I can listen to it a a few more times. Its great to hear his voice, he comes across as totally believeable. And at the same time it feels like you are listening to someone you have known for a long time , its hard to put into words.
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I just went and took another listen and you are right John(boy i'll bet you don't hear that enough, smile)there is more to that show, but you have to go over to the website: veritasshow.com and click on the member section. I have no funding so I wont be able to hear it but maybe you could give me a synopsis.

ON a lighter note , at the end of the show he asks Lou," where can our listeners get in touch with your message' and without batting an eye Lou says"good question" LMAO!!!!
When you die you will find out that John Lear was right .....Hoss
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Hurry, Hurry , read all about it; Lou has started a new forum.
John I thought you would like to know so I will tell on the" down low"


pms: you know!!
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All the best to you, your family, your father and his kingdoms and your grandfather and his kingdoms and eve whoever she is), Mr. Titan and Mr. Lucifer (is that your cat?), Zero Dimension (he was the bad guy in Space Rangers, right?)

And trick 'geenie' out of her wishes? Naughty, naughty.
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Gold.
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First off I wanna say I got my tin foil hat and it's badass.

I want to see what you think about this, I've been wondering about it for awhile:

What do you think about Wisdom Teeth? It's an interesting name for the teeth tregardless, but it's interesting that we have to get them removed don't you think?
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""""""""""""""Yes, Mars is a prison planet, like ours. But with some real frightening creatures. Imagine Michael Chertoff but 10 times worse""""""""""""'


Now John --that is cold!!!! 10 times??tounge
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Hi John. Thank you for taking the time to answer so many questions. I feel by your words that you know and are telling truth about some things I've been interested in for a long time. My question: Is it a coincidence that the entities in the infamous space shuttle tether video, the flying donut thingies, with the bite out of the side....look so much like the things on the surface of the moon? BTW everybody, USGS has a color and a multispectral color map of the moon and if you go to the site

< [link to www.mapaplanet.org]

you will see some wild stuff!
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There is definately an ET connection to Israel but I don't know what it is.
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Their god Jehovah is a fallen Annunaki entity. Allah is also a fallen entity. These 2 idiots have been fighting for eons. It is time we kicked them both out.
I throw idiots on the bbq...™

Best Idiot Idiom so far:
You are about as far from the truth as can be ! thats why you are a EvilBugger
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The following passages have been selected from ‘Comte de Gabalis’ by Montfaucon de Villars, which was first published in Paris in 1670. It was translated anonymously into English by “The Brothers” and printed at the Old Bourne Press in London with no date marked. The book looks as if it was printed around 1900.

The Hebrews used to call the beings who are between the angels and men Sadaim, and the Greeks, transposing letters and adding one syllable, called them Daemonas. Among the ancient philosophers these Daemons were held to be an Aerial Race, ruling over the elements, mortal, engendering, and unknown in this century to those who rarely seek the Truth in her ancient dwelling place, which is to say, in the Cabala and in the theology of the Hebrews, who possessed the special art of holding communion with that Aerial People and of conversing with all these Inhabitants of the Air. The Teraphim was but the ceremony which had to be observed for that communion. Micah, who complains in the Book of Judges that his gods have been taken from him, only laments the loss of the little images through which the Sylphs used to converse with him. The gods which Rachel stole from her father were also the Teraphim. Neither Micah nor Laban are reproved for idolatry, and Jacob would have taken care not to live for fourteen years with an idolater, nor to marry his daughter. It was only a commerce with Slyphs; and tradition tells us that the Synagogue considered such commerce permissible. The image that belonged to David’s wife was but the Teraphim by which she conversed with the Elementary Peoples: for you can well imagine that the prophet after God’s own heart would not have tolerated idolatry in his household. Among other reasons why Rachel stole her father’s images, this is thought to be one: that Laban might not, by consulting with these images, discover what way Jacob took his flight…
In vain does a philosopher bring to light the falsity of the chimeras people have fabricated, and present manifest proofs to the contrary. No matter what his experience, nor how sound his argument and reasoning, let but a man with a doctor’s hood come along and write them down as false – experience and demonstration count for naught, and it is henceforward beyond the power of Truth to re-establish her Empire. People would rather believe in a doctor’s hood than in their own eyes. There has been in your native France a memorable proof of this popular mania. The famous Cabalist Zedechias, in the reign of your Pepin, took it into his head to convince the world that the Elements are inhabited by these peoples whose nature I have described. The expedient of which he bethought himself was to advise the Slyphs to show themselves in the air to everybody. They did so sumptuously. These beings were seen in the air in human form. Sometimes on wonderfully constructed aerial ships, whose flying squadrons roved at the will of the Zephyrs. What happened? Do you suppose that ignorant age would so much as reason as to the nature of these marvelous spectacles? The people straightway believed that sorcerers had taken possession of the Air for the purpose of raising tempests and bringing hail upon their crops. The learned theologians and jurists were of the same opinion as the masses. The emperors believed it as well; and this ridiculous chimera went so far that the wise Charlemagne and after him Louis the Debonair imposed grievous penalties upon all these supposed Tyrants of the Air. You may see an account of this in the first chapter of the Capitularies of these two emperors. The Sylphs, seeing the populace, the pedants and even the crowned heads thus alarmed against them, determined to dissipate the bad opinion people had of their innocent fleet by carrying off men from every locality and showing them their beautiful women, their Republic and their manner of government, and then setting them down again in diverse parts of the world. They carried out their plan. The people who saw these men as they were descending came running from every direction, convinced beforehand that they were sorcerers who had separated from their companions in order to come and scatter poisons on the fruit in the springs. Carried away by the frenzy with which such fancies inspired them, they hurried these innocents off to the torture. The great number of them that was put to death by fire and water throughout the kingdom is incredible. One day, among other instances, it chanced at Lyons that three men and a woman were seen descending from these aerial ships. The entire city gathered about them, crying out that they were magicians, and had been sent by Grimaldus, Duke of Beneventum, Charlemagne’s enemy, to destroy the French harvests. In vain the four innocents sought to vindicate themselves by saying that they were their own country-folk, and had been carried away a short time since by miraculous men who had shown them unheard-of marvels, and had desired them to give an account of what they had seen. The frenzied populace paid no heed to their defense, and were on the point of casting them into the fire when the worthy Agobard, Bishop of Lyons, who having been a monk in that city had acquired considerable authority there, came running at the noise, and having heard the accusations of the people and the defense of the accused, gravely pronounced that both one and the other were false. That it was not true that these men had fallen from the sky, and that what they said they had seen there was impossible. The people believed what their good father Agobard said rather than their own eyes, were pacified, set at liberty the four Ambassadors of the Sylphs, and received with wonder the book which Agobard wrote to confirm the judgment which he had pronounced. Thus the testimony of these four witnesses was rendered vain.”

The following passage was translated from Liber de Grandine et Tonitrius by Agobard, Bishop of Lyon:

“We have, however, seen and heard many men plunged in such great stupidity, sunk in such depths of folly, as to believe and say that there is a certain region, which they call Magonia, whence ships sail in the clouds, in order to carry back to that region those fruits of the earth that are destroyed by hail and tempest; the sailors paying rewards to the storm wizards and themselves receiving corn and other produce. Out of the number of those whose blind folly was deep enough to believe such things possible, I was several exhibiting, in a certain concourse of people, four persons in bonds – three men and a woman who they said had fallen from these same ships. After keeping them for some days in captivity, they had brought them before the assembled multitude, as we have said, in our presence to be stoned. But truth prevailed.”
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The following passages have been selected from ‘Comte de Gabalis’ by Montfaucon de Villars, which was first published in Paris in 1670. It was translated anonymously into English by “The Brothers” and printed at the Old Bourne Press in London with no date marked. The book looks as if it was printed around 1900.

But truth prevailed.”
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Thanks for your post Archon.

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Hi John. Thank you for taking the time to answer so many questions. I feel by your words that you know and are telling truth about some things I've been interested in for a long time. My question: Is it a coincidence that the entities in the infamous space shuttle tether video, the flying donut thingies, with the bite out of the side....look so much like the things on the surface of the moon? BTW everybody, USGS has a color and a multispectral color map of the moon and if you go to the site

< [link to www.mapaplanet.org]

you will see some wild stuff!
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There is no such thing as a coincidence. The teeniest, tiniest thing is carefully planned.

All the best.

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What do you think of Starchild skull?
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I came across some old digital elevation models the other day. DEM's are surface geography and elevation. There are DEM's for almost every place in the world.

From Wiki:

"A digital elevation model is a digital model or 3-D representation of a terrain's surface — commonly for a planet (including Earth), moon, or asteroid — created from terrain elevation data.

DEM is a generic term for DSMs and DTMs. All datasets which are captured with satellites, airplanes or other flying platforms are originally DSMs (like SRTM or the ASTER.

It is possible to compute a DTM from high resolution DSM datasets with complex algorithms (Li et al. (2005).
The term digital surface model represents the earth's surface and includes all objects on it.

In contrast to a DSM, the digital terrain model represents the bare ground surface without any objects like plants and buildings."

So I took the Papoose Lake DEM into Photoshop and looked at the area from several different directions and elevations.

As you can see from the following images is a huge square hole to the south of S-4 on the western side of the mountain range that separates Groom from Papoose.

I exaggerated the elevation so the hole may not be as deep as it looks.

It appears that there is a white shape of what looks like some advanced aircraft.

Using Photoshop I went down in the hole and looked around. I have temporarily misplaced about 25 of these images but I will find them later. All I have now is 3 images.

When I first discovered this hole in 1989 a friend told me that the hole is really just an attempt to eliminate something that was on the surface at that location.

So to be clear about these images:

1. I don't know whether the hole is real or not.
2. I don't know if the white spot was a real aircraft or not.

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What do you think of Starchild skull?
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I don't know enough about it to comment.

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I came across some old digital elevation models the other day. DEM's are surface geography and elevation. There are DEM's for almost every place in the world.

From Wiki:

"A digital elevation model is a digital model or 3-D representation of a terrain's surface — commonly for a planet (including Earth), moon, or asteroid — created from terrain elevation data.

DEM is a generic term for DSMs and DTMs. All datasets which are captured with satellites, airplanes or other flying platforms are originally DSMs (like SRTM or the ASTER.

It is possible to compute a DTM from high resolution DSM datasets with complex algorithms (Li et al. (2005).
The term digital surface model represents the earth's surface and includes all objects on it.

In contrast to a DSM, the digital terrain model represents the bare ground surface without any objects like plants and buildings."

So I took the Papoose Lake DEM into Photoshop and looked at the area from several different directions and elevations.

As you can see from the following images is a huge square hole to the south of S-4 on the western side of the mountain range that separates Groom from Papoose.

I exaggerated the elevation so the hole may not be as deep as it looks.

It appears that there is a white shape of what looks like some advanced aircraft.

Using Photoshop I went down in the hole and looked around. I have temporarily misplaced about 25 of these images but I will find them later. All I have now is 3 images.

When I first discovered this hole in 1989 a friend told me that the hole is really just an attempt to eliminate something that was on the surface at that location.

So to be clear about these images:

1. I don't know whether the hole is real or not.
2. I don't know if the white spot was a real aircraft or not.

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Here is an enlargement of the hole with the edge of the 'ship'. I have better images but am still looking for them.

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