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Benazir Bhutto's "Bin Laden dead in 2007" video, already DEBUNKED!!
Despite all surrealism about the White House's announcement on OBL's death, this doesn't mean that the alleged "evidences" that he had been murdered in 2007, are not the usual misdirection shill disinfo.



The video of the interview, where the former PM of Pakistan, Muslim leader and wife of current President of Pakistan, Benazir Bhutto, supposedly says that OBL was murdered by Pakistani black ops in 2007, has been fully explained and debunked. The shills allege that she was murdered yet in 2007, due this "bombastic revelation", what's not true. She was murdered 'cause she was leading a opposition revolution in Pakistan. Anyway, this is the video debunking the theory that Bin Laden already was dead in 2007, uploaded on YT since 2008:



So by one hand we have MSM and TPTB fabricating "evidences" that BL was killed in May 1st, on this ninja operation and by the other hand we have the shills and O-haters fabricating "evidences" that BL was murdered way before.
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Good post OP! Great find!

This clears up a lot of confusion.

A link to the interview Benazir gave AFTER this interview where she refers to Bin Laden in the present tense , would be appreciated.

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Bhutto was real and could not be influenced

Bhutto was shot because of this crime to the intelligence community.

You cannot be real and certainly you cannot be incorruptable if you want to hold a position of power in this world.

Get with the program or get deleted.
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Awww shilly shill shill the best you've got is "She didn't mean to say it" cruise

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I don't think OP is a shill. You need to watch the vid to understand.
Why would Benazir use the word "MURDERED OSAMA BIN LADEN?"
This is exactly what I thought when I first saw this video.
The word 'murdered' seemed out of place.
She was talking about the murder of reporter Daniel Pearl, just before she used the name Osama Bin Laden. So instead of saying 'Daniel Pearl' she by mistake used the name "Osama Bin Laden".


[link to www.youtube.com]



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Bhutto mentions Osama bin Laden in the context of being alive in interviews given after the above Nov 2nd interview.
Watch the vid again.

Its clear that Benazir Bhutto didn't think Osama Bin Laden was dead because Bhutto talked about bin Laden in the context of him being ALIVE BEFORE & AFTER this Nov 2nd 2007 interview.
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America's ever-shifting attitude towards bin Laden tells us far more about the confused war on terror than about bin Laden himself.

by Brendan O’Neill

POSTED APRIL 25, 2002

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Aaron Russo: The war on Terror is a Giant Hoax!:

[/glpvideo] [link to youtu.be]

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Here's a chronological analysis of Benazir Bhutto's interviews where Bin laden is mentioned by Bhutto in the present alive tense.


This by now popular video interview, where Benazir Bhutto makes a slip of the tounge took place on NOVEMBER 2nd 2007

Note that she's talking about the murder of Daniel Pearl before she mentions Bin Laden.>>>

[link to www.youtube.com]


This interview was given on NOVEMBER 2 2007



Now follow these excerpts from interviews given BEFORE and AFTER the above NOVEMBER 2interview.
>>>>>>>

[link to www.mosaik911.de]


Here's a translation from German:

A wrong word at the wrong time

Between 1988 and 1996, Benazir Bhutto was twice Pakistan's prime minister. With the military coup of General Musharraf in 1999, Bhutto fled to Dubai and stayed until 2007 in exile. (Source)
In October 2007, Bhutto came back as a hope of the Pakistani opposition and Western interests in Pakistan in order to compete in the upcoming parliamentary elections in January 2008. Bhutto's arrival was overshadowed by one of the bloodiest attacks in Pakistan:
At least 130 people were killed when two bombs exploded among crowds in Karachi celebrating the return of the former Pakistani PM Benazir Bhutto. (Source, 19/10/2007)

On 02 November 2007, David Frost in the show Frost Over The World to Al Jazeera English interview with the Pakistani politician. In particular, the suicide attack and its potential perpetrators were discussed:

On 27 December 2007, the Bhutto assassinated - two weeks before scheduled parliamentary elections (source, press statement Scotland Yard).

On the same day, this popular video-neck with a sensational acting statement from the Frost interview like wildfire on the internet and finds himself now on thousands of websites (see Google results):
Benazir Bhutto: Bin Laden was Murdered

Bhutto has said really appropriate - but it also has it meant? Two aspects argue against:

1. It is the only statement of this kind before and after this interview, their statements always contained to the contrary, common assertion:


09. Juni 2007, Times of India:
In an article in the Wall Street Journal which reads like an indictment of the Musharraf regime, Bhutto accused him of not coming down harshly on Taliban or making serious efforts to apprehend Osama bin Laden. [...]
She said, "Although tribal terrain offers many opportunities for resistance, there is another reason why Osama bin Laden has not yet been intercepted -- or that the Taliban find such easy sanctuary once again.[...]
"If the Taliban are eliminated, or if their poster-boy Osama bin Laden is caught, the international cries for restoration of democracy will only deepen. Musharraf's regime needs the threat of an 'Islamist takeover' to keep the rest of the world community supportive of its continued grip over Pakistan."

08. Juli 2007, WELT Online Interview (siehe auch FAKTuell):
HAQ: Glauben Sie, dass Al-Qaida-Chef Osama Bin Laden noch lebt, und wenn ja, was glauben Sie, wo er sich befindet?
BHUTTO: Präsident Musharraf sagt, er befinde sich im schwer zu überwachenden Grenzgebiet zwischen Pakistan und Afghanistan. Die Experten gehen davon aus, dass er noch am Leben ist.

05. August 2007, CNN Interview:
BLITZER: Would it be OK for the U.S., if it had actionable intelligence on the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden or Ayman al- Zawahiri in Pakistan, to go in and kill or capture him and violate, in effect, Pakistani sovereignty?
BHUTTO: I don't think it would be right to violate Pakistan's sovereignty by unauthorized military action. But I do believe that Pakistan and the United States and NATO and Afghanistan must work very closely together in restoring law and order to the tribal badlands in Pakistan, which are undermining Pakistan's standing in the international community, giving rise to a threat to Pakistan's internal well-being as well as aggravating our relations with nearby Afghanistan. We cannot tolerate people using our soil to mount attacks on NATO troops in neighboring Afghanistan. (CNN Transkript)

09. August 2007, Finance Wire, NBC
CURRY: So if you return to power, how would you face down al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden?
BHUTTO: Bin laden has evaded capture because the pursuit has not been hard enough. We have to have pursuit of al Qaeda, tall pan, consistently and persistently and not only when there`s pressure on us.

19. September 2007, National Public Radio Interview
INSKEEP: Are you saying that whoever is hiding Osama bin Laden would cooperate with you to track him down?
Ms. BHUTTO: No, they would not cooperate with me. They would try to stop me. I think the people who are hiding Osama bin Laden are dead scared of democracy. They're frightened that now President Bush and the United States and the world community is calling for elections, they're doing that best to find some pretext by which they can get the elections postponed, because the people who are hiding Osama bin Laden know it would be very difficult for them to do that if democracy brings the Pakistan People's Party back to government under my leadership.

27. September 2007, CNN Interview
BLITZER: You’re a relatively young woman. How scared are you, though, because as you know, Osama bin Laden and other terrorists, they’ve attacked you in the past, and they clearly would like to go after you now.
BHUTTO: Yes, of course, they would like to go against me. There’s a lot of threats because under military dictatorship and an anarchy situation has developed which the terrorists and Osama have exploited. They don’t want democracy. They don’t want me back.

02. Oktober 2007, Associated Press (bzw REUTERS)
Benazir Bhutto, Pakistan's former prime minister, said in an interview that she would cooperate with the American military in targeting Osama bin Laden.
Bhutto told BBC America, in an interview scheduled to air last night, that she would accept US assistance in the event they discovered the whereabouts of the Al Qaeda leader, but that she would prefer to have the Pakistani military execute the strike.
"If there is overwhelming evidence, I would hope that I would be able to take Osama bin Laden myself without depending on the Americans," Bhutto last week during the taping. "But if I couldn't do it, of course we are fighting this war together and would seek their cooperation in eliminating him."


<<<<<<<<(The following interviews were given AFTER the David Frost November 2nd interview)>>>>>


03. November 2007, CNN Interview (ein Tag nach dem Frost-Interview!)
WHITFIELD: Do you think General Musharraf knows where Osama bin Laden is?
BHUTTO: I don't think General Musharraf personally knows where Osama bin Laden is, [...]

09. November 2007, Greta van Susteren Interview (FOX News)
VAN SUSTEREN: The two big issues Americans think of when they think of Pakistan, one is you have nuclear weapons and that’s always, you know, terrifying, you know when a country has unrest - you have nuclear weapons and the other is Osama bin Laden, we know - we suspect that he is hiding out in the northern part of Pakistan or that he is being hidden out there. Is Musharraf doing everything he can to protect your nuclear weapons? And number two, is he doing everything he can to help the United States in its war on terrorism?
BHUTTO: Well, I think Osama bin Laden must be rubbing his hands with glee as he looks at what’s happening in Pakistan and how there is civil unrest in the country, how large parts of the tribal areas have fallen under the sway of his supporters as have parts of the frontier province and now they are moving into yet another state known as the northern area. And what’s frightening, Greta, is that they seem to have tons of money and they’re hiring poverty stricken people from Pakistan and they’re hiring poverty stricken people from nearby Uzbekistan.

13. November 2007, National Public Radio Interview:
And I was just telling one of the policemen, I said 'should you be here after us? Shouldn’t you be looking for Osama bin Laden?'

Nach wem soll gesucht werden - nach einem Toten?

13. November 2007, BBC Radio 4
Well we've got about four thousand Policemen all around the house including in the neighbours, armoured personnel carriers and massive trucks filled with red sand, barbed wire, and I'm just wondering when we have this huge deployment where Police of this kind can't be used to hunt down Osama bin Laden.

Nach wem soll gesucht werden - nach einem Toten?


2. Bhutto erwähnt im Frost-Interview einige Namen im Zusammenhang mit der Frage nach den potentiellen Drahtziehern hinter dem Oktober-Anschlag (folgende Auszüge siehe Interview-Transkript):
04:08 Benazir Bhutto: Yes it is true that I wrote to General Musharraf. I recieved information from General Musharraf, that a friendly country had past on to them, the information that I could be attacked by a gang from the afghan warlord Baitullah Mesud or by Hamza ibn bin Ladin [the son of Osama Bin Ladin; Anm.: der Zusatz fehlt im Transkript, wurde jedoch von Bhutto gesagt], or by the pakistani Taliban in Islamabad or by a group in Karachi. So I sent back a letter saying: while these groups may be used, but more important is to go after the people who supported them, who organized them, who possibly are the financiers or the organizers of finance for those groups and I named three individuals, who I thougth with the symphatizers. [...]

00:05:33 David Frost: In terms of these three people you mentioned where they members of or asociated with the government.

00:05:42 Benazir Bhutto: Yes well, one of them is a very keyfigure in security, he is a former military officer, he is some one who has had dealings with Jaish-e-Mohammad one of the band groups of Maulana Masood Azhar, who was in an indian jail for decapitating three british tourists and three american tourists and he also had dealings with Omar Shiekh, who murdered Osama bin Laden. [Hervorhebungen von mir]

[link to www.mosaik911.de]

One only needs to copy paste some of the dialog into google to get the original transcript.

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Despite all surrealism about the White House's announcement on OBL's death, this doesn't mean that the alleged "evidences" that he had been murdered in 2007, are not the usual misdirection shill disinfo.



The video of the interview, where the former PM of Pakistan, Muslim leader and wife of current President of Pakistan, Benazir Bhutto, supposedly says that OBL was murdered by Pakistani black ops in 2007, has been fully explained and debunked. The shills allege that she was murdered yet in 2007, due this "bombastic revelation", what's not true. She was murdered 'cause she was leading a opposition revolution in Pakistan. Anyway, this is the video debunking the theory that Bin Laden already was dead in 2007, uploaded on YT since 2008:



So by one hand we have MSM and TPTB fabricating "evidences" that BL was killed in May 1st, on this ninja operation and by the other hand we have the shills and O-haters fabricating "evidences" that BL was murdered way before.
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You dunce. This didnt debunk diddly squat. Some internet intel agent, who doesnt speak the launguage, hasnt met Bhutto, hasnt been to her country, knows little about politics, covert ops and NOTHING about what is going on inside Bhutto's (or anyone else's) mind. He has no special experience in the military and NO inside contacts. (Unless Mossad experience is legit).

THIS dual ISRAELI national "patriot" (for which country?) doesnt know sh#t and hasnt debunked anything.
"She meant to say"- how the fukk would would this fool know what she meant to say? She is highly literate, FLUENT and doesnt need some jew sayan to translate her unexpressed thoughts post mortem to keep the fake war muslims alive for jew benefit.
She said AFTER the intv that he was alive? Do you honestly think she didnt get incredible pressure to renounce her revelation?? Maybe this dingbat hasbara could mind read David Frost also. Like why he would hear such a kryptonite reference and not question it? I'll mind read a bit: not getting fired and losing your job by offeneding your employer, could play a part.

SHE SAID WHAT SHE SAID, and MEANT WHAT SHE SAID or would have retracted it. She also wasnt the only highly placed Pakistani and American officials over the years who claimed he'd been killed in 2001.

More Hasbara using US taxpayer money.
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This should be pinned. Clears up a lot of misinfo going around .

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She said AFTER the intv that he was alive? Do you honestly think she didnt get incredible pressure to renounce her revelation?? Maybe this dingbat hasbara could mind read David Frost also. Like why he would hear such a kryptonite reference and not question it? I'll mind read a bit: not getting fired and losing your job by offeneding your employer, could play a part.

SHE SAID WHAT SHE SAID, and MEANT WHAT SHE SAID or would have retracted it. She also wasnt the only highly placed Pakistani and American officials over the years who claimed he'd been killed in 2001.

More Hasbara using US taxpayer money.
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People make mistakes. A slip of the tounge.
Didnt Fox Tv make the same slip of the tounge when they said OBama was dead instead of OSama is dead?

Here's the interview POST the Nov 2 David Frost interview.
She doesn't sound like she's under pressure:

[link to www.youtube.com]


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This makes you think:
If the intelligence agencies realized that Benazir Bhutto was aware of the so called Osama 'murder' , you think they would let her do a tv show??
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I'm beginning to believe she was manipulated by the muslims, and killed after being manipulated to her maximum.
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Correct OP Bin Laden died of kidney failure in 2002.
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Im not discounting the fact that Osama was dead either before or after the Benazir video interview. All Im saying is that the Benazir Bhutto youTube video was misleading.

According to this Fox News report , Osama died of lung complications around 2001:



Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.
"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.
Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.
About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."

[link to www.foxnews.com]


So, if that report was true, then Benazir Bhutto was NOT aware of Osama's death.

Which means his 'existence' and latest death, was/is used for political reasons.

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So, if that report was true, then Benazir Bhutto was NOT aware of Osama's death.

Which means his 'existence' and latest death, was/is used for political reasons.
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Or it could mean the Taliban was making false reports without delivering bin Laden's body.
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This makes you think:
If the intelligence agencies realized that Benazir Bhutto was aware of the so called Osama 'murder' , you think they would let her do a tv show??
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They did not have enough control over her to stop her doing this show. They did not know what she would reveal.

Stop using such weak arguments. They are more flimsy than wet toilet paper.
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This makes you think:
If the intelligence agencies realized that Benazir Bhutto was aware of the so called Osama 'murder' , you think they would let her do a tv show??
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They did not have enough control over her to stop her doing this show. They did not know what she would reveal.

Stop using such weak arguments. They are more flimsy than wet toilet paper.
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The 'murder' of Osama , if it were covert , would be important enough for the intelligence agencies to monitor, so word wouldn't get leaked.

As for control, yes, it would be difficult to 'control', or get her to shut up about the 'murder' ,but easy to kill.

Getting to Benazir wouldn't have been that difficult, considering how she was assasinated:

The assassination of Benazir Bhutto occurred on 27 December 2007 in Rawalpindi, Pakistan. Bhutto, twice Prime Minister of Pakistan (1988–1990; 1993–1996) and then-leader of the opposition Pakistan Peoples Party, had been campaigning ahead of elections due in January 2008.[1][4][5] Shots were fired at her after a political rally at Liaquat National Bagh, and a suicide bomb was detonated immediately following the shooting. She was declared dead at 18:16 local time (13:16 UTC), at Rawalpindi General Hospital. 24 other people were killed by the bombing.[3] Bhutto had previously survived a similar attempt on her life that killed at least 139 people, after her return from exile two months earlier.
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If Bhutto was a harm to the safety of The USA, she'd be killed. She was killed and her false intel was the reason.
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Im not discounting the fact that Osama was dead either before or after the Benazir video interview. All Im saying is that the Benazir Bhutto youTube video was misleading.

According to this Fox News report , Osama died of lung complications around 2001:



Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.
"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.
Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.
About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."

[link to www.foxnews.com]


So, if that report was true, then Benazir Bhutto was NOT aware of Osama's death.

Which means his 'existence' and latest death, was/is used for political reasons.
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"if that report is true"? From Fox News, the greatest source of propaganda and lies on this planet? You have got to be kidding me!

You never thought that might, alternatively, have been just a cover story manufactured to hide from Muslims the fact that he had been assassinated by the rogue elements of Western intelligence - and by another Muslim!?

Your explanations are simplistic. There are alternative reasons for scenarios, but you argue as though there was only one - just to explain away Bhutto's statement. Well, it won't wash!
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I love how anyone from anywhere can tell everyone what someone else meant.
Wow!
Even though this might be true (what he says) who the fuck is he to KNOW what she really meant?

I s'pose Rumsfeld didn't mean 'shot down the plane'




Or that a "Missile hit the Pentagon" either, right?




So another words, when someone of clout says something they really SHOULDN'T, it's just excused and explained away as words mis-spoken. I get it now!

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If Bhutto was a harm to the safety of The USA, she'd be killed. She was killed and her false intel was the reason.
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She was killed for revealing the truth.

There is, anyway, no logic in your answer. If it had been false, there was still no link between the murder and the CIA (Omar Sheikh was supposedly, al Qaeda, not a CIA asset). So there was no motive to remove her. Her statement did not harm the USA.
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R.I.P. Benazir Bhutto

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This makes you think:
If the intelligence agencies realized that Benazir Bhutto was aware of the so called Osama 'murder' , you think they would let her do a tv show??
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They did not have enough control over her to stop her doing this show. They did not know what she would reveal.

Stop using such weak arguments. They are more flimsy than wet toilet paper.
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The 'murder' of Osama , if it were covert , would be important enough for the intelligence agencies to monitor, so word wouldn't get leaked.

As for control, yes, it would be difficult to 'control', or get her to shut up about the 'murder' ,but easy to kill.

Getting to Benazir wouldn't have been that difficult, considering how she was assasinated:

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Bhutto was a public figure. The notion of Western intelligence agencies trying to stop her free speech is ludicrous. She would have screamed bloody murder and it would have been bad publicity for them. She was controlled by no one.
No. The truth is, she knew the truth about Osama's death through her intelligence contacts but was not supposed to make this public, as it was a highly classified secret. THAT's why she was killed in revenge. They were afraid what else she might reveal - about 9/11 perhaps.
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"if that report is true"? From Fox News, the greatest source of propaganda and lies on this planet? You have got to be kidding me!

You never thought that might, alternatively, have been just a cover story manufactured to hide from Muslims the fact that he had been assassinated by the rogue elements of Western intelligence - and by another Muslim!?

Your explanations are simplistic. There are alternative reasons for scenarios, but you argue as though there was only one - just to explain away Bhutto's statement. Well, it won't wash!
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Benazir Bhutto

Im not explaining any particular scenario. My point in this thread is that Benazir Bhutto did NOT mean to say that Osama Bin Laden was assasinated . (she used the word 'murder' which itself is curious)
As for the Fox News story, I mentioned it as an alternate probabilty to what could have happened. Not that I trust Fox News.

If the intelligence agencies wanted to silence her, they would have done that before November.

Here's a report on the Bhutto assasination:
The main suspects in Benazir Bhutto’s assassination are the Pakistani and foreign Islamist militants who saw her as a heretic and an American stooge and had repeatedly threatened to kill her.
But fingers will also be pointed at Inter-Services Intelligence, the agency that has had close ties to the Islamists since the 1970s and has been used by successive Pakistani leaders to suppress political opposition.
Ms Bhutto narrowly escaped an assassination attempt in October, when a suicide bomber killed about 140 people at a rally in the port city of Karachi to welcome her back from eight years in exile.
Earlier that month, two militant warlords based in Pakistan's lawless northwestern areas, near the border with Afghanistan, had threatened to kill her on her return.
One was Baitullah Mehsud, a top commander fighting the Pakistani army in the tribal region of South Waziristan. He has close ties to al Qaeda and the Afghan Taleban.
The other was Haji Omar, the “amir” or leader of the Pakistani Taleban, who is also from South Waziristan and fought against the Soviets with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.
After that attack Ms Bhutto revealed that she had received a letter signed by a person who claimed to be a friend of al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden threatening to slaughter her like a goat.
She accused Pakistani authorities of not providing her with sufficient security and hinted that they may have been complicit in the bomb attack. Asif Ali Zardari, her husband, directly accused the ISI of being involved in that attempt on her life.
Mrs Bhutto stopped short of blaming the Government directly, saying that she had more to fear from unidentified members of a power structure that she described as allies of the “forces of militancy”.
Analysts say that President Musharraf himself is unlikely to have ordered her assassination, but that elements of the army and intelligence service would have stood to lose money and power if she had become Prime Minister.
The ISI, in particular, includes some Islamists who became radicalised while running the American-funded campaign against the Soviets in Afghanistan and remained fiercely opposed to Ms Bhutto on principle.
Saudi Arabia, which has strong influence in Pakistan, is also thought to frown on Ms Bhutto as being too secular and Westernised and to favour Nawaz Sharif, another former Prime Minister.

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People always come forth to explain away whatever they don't want people to believe. They make up crap like "he (she) did not mean to say what they said"! LOL! And that's all they got! There was no proof that the person misspoke. Just an unsubstantiated claim.

Well if Bhutto misspoke, why did the BBC delete her statement about Omar Saeed Sheikh when they archived the interview with Frost? Because they were ordered to by British intelligence, who has always known this state secret about Osama because Sheikh was a MI6 agent whom they used as a double-agent, working for al Qaeda.
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I love how anyone from anywhere can tell everyone what someone else meant.
Wow!
Even though this might be true (what he says) who the fuck is he to KNOW what she really meant?

I s'pose Rumsfeld didn't mean 'shot down the plane'

Or that a "Missile hit the Pentagon" either, right?

So another words, when someone of clout says something they really SHOULDN'T, it's just excused and explained away as words mis-spoken. I get it now!

Okey dokey.
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Its called 'Analysis'. If you are too lazy to do some research, doesn't mean others are too.

ANd there is NO connection between the Bhutto episode, and the 911 job.

According to you , when Fox Tv said OBAMA IS DEAD a couple of days back, then they DID mean OBAMA was DEAD????!!!
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"if that report is true"? From Fox News, the greatest source of propaganda and lies on this planet? You have got to be kidding me!

You never thought that might, alternatively, have been just a cover story manufactured to hide from Muslims the fact that he had been assassinated by the rogue elements of Western intelligence - and by another Muslim!?

Your explanations are simplistic. There are alternative reasons for scenarios, but you argue as though there was only one - just to explain away Bhutto's statement. Well, it won't wash!
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Benazir Bhutto

Im not explaining any particular scenario. My point in this thread is that Benazir Bhutto did NOT mean to say that Osama Bin Laden was assasinated . (she used the word 'murder' which itself is curious)
As for the Fox News story, I mentioned it as an alternate probabilty to what could have happened. Not that I trust Fox News.

If the intelligence agencies wanted to silence her, they would have done that before November.

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But they had no reason to do so! They thought she could keep her mouth shut about what her sources and contacts had told her. And they were wrong.
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She was killed for being more powerful in words than her male opponent. It's the muslim system for killing women.
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People always come forth to explain away whatever they don't want people to believe. They make up crap like "he (she) did not mean to say what they said"! LOL! And that's all they got! There was no proof that the person misspoke. Just an unsubstantiated claim.


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No proof?
How do you explain these quotes of Benazir Bhutto, AFTER that Nov 2 interview with David Frost????



SOurce:
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03. November 2007, CNN Interview (ein Tag nach dem Frost-Interview!)
WHITFIELD: Do you think General Musharraf knows where Osama bin Laden is?
BHUTTO: I don't think General Musharraf personally knows where Osama bin Laden is, [...]

09. November 2007, Greta van Susteren Interview (FOX News)
VAN SUSTEREN: The two big issues Americans think of when they think of Pakistan, one is you have nuclear weapons and that’s always, you know, terrifying, you know when a country has unrest - you have nuclear weapons and the other is Osama bin Laden, we know - we suspect that he is hiding out in the northern part of Pakistan or that he is being hidden out there. Is Musharraf doing everything he can to protect your nuclear weapons? And number two, is he doing everything he can to help the United States in its war on terrorism?
BHUTTO: Well, I think Osama bin Laden must be rubbing his hands with glee as he looks at what’s happening in Pakistan and how there is civil unrest in the country, how large parts of the tribal areas have fallen under the sway of his supporters as have parts of the frontier province and now they are moving into yet another state known as the northern area. And what’s frightening, Greta, is that they seem to have tons of money and they’re hiring poverty stricken people from Pakistan and they’re hiring poverty stricken people from nearby Uzbekistan.

13. November 2007, National Public Radio Interview:
And I was just telling one of the policemen, I said 'should you be here after us? Shouldn’t you be looking for Osama bin Laden?'
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