ALERT!- Comet Elenin San Francisco 10.5 Magnitude Earthquake on October 21st, 2011 (Feast of Tabernacles)

Thanks. :)

What I have come to realize is that we should see a major sign in October. My best guess is a war escalation between Palestine and Israel and others. As well, a major earthquake with the location being San Francisco.

Everyone laughed at Harold Camping but wonder if his October 21st, 2011 date is partially true?


October 21st, 2011 (start of tribulation) plus 1260 days = April 4th, 2015 (Blood Red Moon Passover)

The Book of Revelation is all about a future unfulfilled Passover date.

You know, over a year ago, maybe even 2 years I watched a multi-part video of a biblical scholar who did a timeline of the feasts and the different calanders and to me it sounded pretty convincing. I had seen other dates, but this particular one really sounded right on. I know no-one can say the hour or day for sure but I always kept October 2011 in mind after watching it for something major to happen of biblical proportions. Now, with all this elenin talk it seems like "knowledge has increased". Just my opinion.

I'm sorry I don't remember the guys name to look up that multi-part youtube to put here, but it was a guy with a board (very old school) showing how he arrived at his conclusions.

BTW, Harold Camping got into a confrontation during Easter 4/3/1988 over whether 4/1/33AD or 4/3/33AD was the correct date...He left his church over disagreements and went with April Fool's Day when coming to his final calculations of 5/21/11...
Perhaps he should have gone with 4/3/33...you would agree..

4/3/88 is 30 years to 4/1/18 the April Fool's Easter of 2018...same year Israel turns 70..

That would make 30 years "YES".....
Was not David 30 years old when he become King?
2 Samuel 5:4
Saul was 30 when he become king.
1 Samuel 13:1
Joseph was 30 when he entered the sevice of the king/pharoah...
Genesis 41:46
JC began his ministry
Luke 3:23

2011-2018.....7 years..

2018 should be the Kings year!!!!

There is no way I believe there is a 7 year tribulation period. NONE! It is all a lie, or I guess, totally misinterpreted in the Bible. You know how the 7 year tribulation got started right? Look up John Darby. His interpretation of Daniel 9.

Also, there is nothing significant when it comes to eclipses landing on Jewish holy days in 2018. Only for 2014-2015 there is.

Now when it comes to Jesus death and resurrection, if you look up April 1st, 33 AD, that falls on a Friday, or Nissan 14.

[link to www.hebcal.com]

He was resurrected 3 days or 3 nights later. So Friday night, Saturday night, and resurrected Sunday night.

Sunday April 4th, 33 AD would be Nissan 17.

Hmmm but i have to investigate this a little more. The timing is off a bit maybe.

Looks like the 42 months of tribulation is about to begin.

On DRUDGEREPORT now....

Jewish 'settlers' prepared for Palestinian onslaught

[link to www.israeltoday.co.il]

those here who have not accepted jesus christ as their lord and savior should do it as soon as possible. ask jesus for forgiveness of their sins

we are living in volatile times and the rapture may happen soon.

time is short so it's recommended to get houses in order.

The Book of Revelation is all about a unfulfilled Passover date. It is when Elijah returns!

None of the seals have been opened. They are opened after the tribulation period lasting 1260 days or 42 months. The tribulation is the birth pang process.

The 1260 days would conclude on Passover when the lamb is slain. This is when the 7 seals are opened after the birth pain process. The 7 seals are all opened on one day, PASSOVER!

The Revelation
of St. John the Divine
5

The Unopened Book and the Lamb
1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the back side, sealed with seven seals.
2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
6 ¶ And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, Ihaving seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odors, which are the prayers of saints.
9 And they sung a new song, saying,

Thou art worthy to take the book,
and to open the seals thereof:
for thou wast slain,
and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood
out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

The Revelation
of St. John the Divine
6

The Seals
1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3 ¶ And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
5 ¶ And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse;and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
7 ¶ And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
9 ¶ And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 and they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
12 ¶ And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

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When is the lamb slain? On Passover!

The Slaying of the Passover Lamb

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IDF general: Likelihood of regional war growing

"Senior IDF officer warns of 'radical Islamic winter' that may lead to regional war, could prompt use of WMDs; new, more lethal weapons discovered in hands of terrorists during latest round of fighting in Gaza, Major General Eisenberg says"

[link to www.ynetnews.com]

Home Front Command warns of all-out Middle East war

[link to www.jpost.com]

If the war happens beginning in late September or around October 21st, 2011 it is on like donkey kong. The 1260 days of tribulation will have begun and the hour glass then starts ticking to Passover 2015.

Where's the third temple? Wheres the 7 year peace treaty? Wheres the AC?

Um third temple? Where does it say in scripture there needs to be a physical third temple built before tribulation? Um no where.

Where does it say in scripture there is a 7 year tribulation period? Um no where.

We shall see about the AC. Could it be Prince William? Things point in that direction.

It has been removed and decided to post the info on GLP. Much easier. Here is more information to the subject matter:

1260 day Great Tribulation Begins on Shemini Atzeret & Ends on Passover

Thread: 1260 day Great Tribulation Begins on Shemini Atzeret & Ends on Passover

Shemini Atzeret this year is October 21st, 2011

Could Harold Camping be partly correct with this date of some sorts? Like a boy crying wolf. Nobody believes him now since May 21st, 2011 came to pass. It might not be the end of the world as he says for October 21st, 2011 but something quite different. He does say now that the major earthquake will happen on this day. Perhaps so. I for sure would be heading out of San Francisco/Bay Area on that day or around that time.

According to Camping "The great earthquake and rapture and the universe melting in fervent heat will be happening on the last day – October 21 2011...

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October 20th, 2011/October 21st, 2011 (depending on time zones)

Guess what happens on October 20th, 2011?

The Great California Shake Out!

[link to www.shakeout.org]

"The strongest seismicity will then again increase around 20 October 2011, ie., upon the comet’s crossing of the Earth’s orbit on the way out, only to continue subsiding till year 2016."

[link to news.exopoliticsinstitute.org]

So October 21st, 2011 (Harold Camping's Judgement Day date) is Shemini Atzeret.

"Praying for Rain

Shemini Atzeret marks the beginning of the rainy season following the harvest in Israel.

The prayer for rain, Tefilat Geshem, is the only ritual that is unique to Shemini Atzeret. In ancient times, an offering was brought to the Temple in Jerusalem on Shemini Atzeret. But once the Temple was destroyed, the only Shemini Atzeret ritual that remained was the liturgy requesting rain for a plentiful year.

After the prayer for rain is recited on Shemini Atzeret, the phrase Masheev HaRuach U-Moreed HaGeshem (He causes the wind to blow and the rain to fall) is inserted into the Amidah prayer until Passover."

[link to judaism.about.com]

There are exactly 1260 days from October 21st, 2011 to Passover (Blood Red Moon 2015) on April 4th, 2015.

You can't get a perfect match like that for any other year. I tried. :)

So Shemini Atzeret is about the prayer for rain.

The General Epistle of
James
5
17 Eli'jah was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.
18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.

Three years and six months is 1260 days or 42 months.

When is Elijah supposed to return again? On Passover!

Why is There a Cup of Wine for Elijah at the Passover Seder?

[link to judaism.about.com]

Elijah is one of the two witnesses.

The Revelation
of St. John the Divine
11

The Two Witnesses
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 ¶ These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

sooo, op

from what i have been reading, you dont believe in a 7 year tribulation ?

do you believe in a pretrib or post trib rapture?

Correct, no 7 year tribulation. Just a misinterpretation of the Bible.

"Was John Darby (1800-1882) the first man to teach a 7 Year Tribulation period?"

John Darby (1800-1882) is generally credited as the first man to teach the idea that there would be a 7 year tribulation period. Prior to Darby , there is no known record of anyone claiming that the 7 years of Dan 9:27 outlines the length of the tribulation period in the book of Revelation.

It's not that there aren't an abundance of commentators. For example, all of the following people commented on the End Times, the False Messiah, and other such topics:

The last chapter of the Didache (circa 100-120 AD) outlines the events of the Second Coming, but says nothing about a 7 year trib period.
Irenaeus (120-200 AD), in Book V Chapter XXV , quotes from Daniel to discuss the tribulations and says the false messiah would reign for 3.5 years, and makes no mention of any greater length of 7 years.

Hippolytus (170-236 AD) talked a lot on this topic in his "Treatise on the Christ and the AntiChrist" and did similar to Irenaeus, talking of the False Messiah reigning for 1,260 days (3.5 years), but made no mention of any 7 year period.

Cyprian (200-258 AD) discusses the false messiah too in Letter 55 but said nothing about a 7 year tribulation.

Victorinus (circa 240 AD) wrote a Commentary on the entire Book of Revelation, but not once did he mention anything about the tribulation period being 7 years in length. There's a lot of SEVEN's in the book of Revelation (7 churches, 7 trumpets, 7 seals) and as such, he talks a lot about the symbolic meaning of the number 7 in his commentary on the first chapter. But still, not once does he say anything about a 7 year period despite all of these opportunities and places where one would expect such.
Ephraim the Syrian (4th century AD) discusses the false messiah reigning for 3.5 years, but says nothing of any sort of 7 year tribulation period.
One could probably go through one example after another and find similar results; one commentator after another from the earliest times right on up to Darby had no notion of the End Times fitting into some sort of 7 year time period. We even see the opposite , for all of them talk about the false messiah reigning for only 3.5 years. Darby (19th century AD) is the first person history knows of to suggest that the entire tribulation period would fit into some sort of 7 year period."

[link to www.bad] goose/letters/oct2010/lewisb1018.htm

By doing some research, the 7 year tribulation theory got started by John Darby. He misinterpreted Daniel 9.

In my study, there is a two fold tribulation.

One being just the tribulation period lasting 1260 days or 42 months. This is the birth pain period. And the time where the Gentiles tread on Jerusalem for 42 months.

After that is concluded, the Great Tribulation comes or the time of wrath, which will last 1 year, 1 month, 1 day, 1 hour. The time of wrath comes like a thief in the night and it would come during a future Passover date. Just like the angel of death swept over the houses of Egypt. Most were killed, but some were spared because of the blood of the lamb on the door posts.

Thus my conclusion is that there is a prewrath rapture of some sort. It would be the 144,000. They will be the children of Israel. It will be the children that will be raptured.

I get words, dreams and visions from the LORD.

Last year, several times and in several ways, I got the message of '2015.'

I didn't get a clear intepretation of it, though in my spirit, I knew it was pivotal to the end days. Actually, I felt that it was the year of the end, literally.

I do think that all the interpretations of the last days are not complete or correct in many ways. I think that we are going to be very surprised as things unfold quickly.

I guess we will have to wait and see!

We shall soon see. I don't know if it will be a peace treaty. Maybe? It could be that Palestine vote Sept 20th that gets the ball moving.

The abomination of desolation happens on a future Passover date. Scripture indicates this!

I had this thought that maybe the Dome of the Rock could possibly be the abomination of desolation??

Like I said, it was just a passing thought....

Foretelling a HUGE earthquake not for October 21st, 2011 but October 19th, 2011 instead?

Check this out!

Tishrei 21 is on October 19th this year!

[link to www.chabad.org]

The day is known as Hoshana Rabbah, which is the 7th day of Sukkot or Feast of Tabernacles. It is considered the final day of divine judgment in which the fate of the new year is determined.

Remember, Tishrei is the 7th month in the Jewish calendar.

Have a look at this verse in the Bible that mentions an earthquake on Tishrei 21

Haggai
2

The Glory of the New Temple
1 In the seventh month, in the one and twentieth day of the month, came the word of the LORD by the prophet Hag'gai, saying,
2 Speak now to Zerub'babel the son of She-al'ti-el, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Jos'edech, the high priest, and to the residue of the people, saying,
3 Who is left among you that saw this house in her first glory? and how do ye see it now? is it not in your eyes in comparison of it as nothing?
4 Yet now be strong, O Zerub'babel, saith the LORD; and be strong, O Joshua, son of Jos'edech, the high priest; and be strong, all ye people of the land, saith the LORD, and work: for I am with you, saith the LORD of hosts:
5 According to the word that I covenanted with you when ye came out of Egypt, so my Spirit remaineth among you: fear ye not.
6 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land;
7 and I will shake all nations, and the Desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the LORD of hosts.
8 The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts.
9 The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the LORD of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the LORD of hosts.

Uh oh!

Above in Haggai 2 it says "The Glory of the New Temple" (in bold)

The New Temple is going to be measure then. It is measured on Yom Kippur, which is the 10th day of the 7th month! The beginning of the year is Rosh Hashanah, which is Tishrei 1 and Tishrei 2

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Revelation 11:1-3
1260 Days
The Gentiles

11 I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, "Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, and count the worshipers there. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.

The Book of the Prophet
Ezekiel
40

The Prophet's Vision of the Temple
1 In the five and twentieth year of our captivity, in the beginning of the year, in the tenth day of the month, (Yom Kippur) in the fourteenth year after that the city was smitten, in the selfsame day the hand of the LORD was upon me, and brought me thither.
2 In the visions of God brought he me into the land of Israel, and set me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the south.
3 And he brought me thither, and, behold, there was a man, whose appearance was like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; Rev. 11.1 ; 21.15 and he stood in the gate.

Need I say more!?
:great scott:

The next month will determine the near future.

Please stand by!

The Book of Revelation has to do with a future Passover date.

Most know Harold Camping has the date of October 21st, 2011.

And most know in Revelation there is 1260 days or 42 months.

Well if you add 1260 days to October 21st, 2011 you will arrive at April 4th, 2015 which is Passover and the Blood Red Moon. Can't get any more crystal clear than that! And there is much more to that time code besides exactly 1260 days being between those two dates!

Again, the Book of Revelation is describing a future unfulfilled Passover. Numerous esoteric references in Revelation alludes to this.

Don't believe that the Book of Revelation describes a future Passover?

Read this then...

[link to www.churchisraelforum.com]

Read this if you want to take the time to understand the esoteric code of Passover in Revelation.


"PROPHETIC PARALLEL

So then how does the Exodus in Egypt have a prophetic fulfillment for the end time believer? One very important purpose in these last days is for God to once again show to Israel and the nations who the one true God of heaven and earth is. We live in a time that is not unlike our ancient ancestors. There are many religions and many so called gods that people worship today. God will once again reveal His awesome power as He did in Days of Old and put to rest that there is only one God and creator of heaven and earth. The Book of Revelation describes what will take place on the earth in the last days just prior to the Messiahs coming. Much of this book has Passover imagery associated with it. The Book of Revelation says it is the Lamb of God who will open the seals and will begin the worldwide judgments and events of God's visitation upon the earth in these last days. Rev. 5: 2,3,5,12

The Passover- Exodus account described the people of God being engaged in a severe struggle with Egypt and their ruler, Pharaoh. The world parallels the Egypt of the Exodus. The people of God are represented by the Israelites in Egypt. God raised up two prophets Moses and Aaron who called down plagues on Egypt. The first nine plagues did not result in repentance by the Pharaoh or the Egyptians. It was not until the tenth and final plague,the death of the first born of Egypt that the Israelites were finally set free.

The number ten is significant. In Hebrew thought the meaning is the number of completion. Ten plagues represent complete judgment upon Egypt. Just as Moses and Aaron called down plagues of judgment on Egypt, the book of Revelation says there will be two witnesses on the earth who will have authority and power to smite the earth with every plague, as often as they desire.

These have power to shut up the sky in order that rain may not fall and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood. Rev 11:5

As Israel was protected in Goshen, so God will mark all believers and protect them from the plagues of judgment that are coming upon the earth.

Unlike the Israelites the believers in the last days will be protected in various places throughout the earth. The sons of Israel overcame the angel of death because of the blood of the lamb that was on the door posts of their homes. Believers in the last days will be protected and overcome Satan by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony and by not loving their own lives even unto death. The Anti-messiah of the last days is paralleled by the Pharaoh who refuses to let God's people go. God will raise up prophetic voices in the last days that will cry out to the spiritual Pharaoh of this world. Let them go so that they may worship me.

There were ten plagues that fell upon Egypt. They were divided into three series of judgments. So also in the book of Revelation there are three series of judgments (seven seals, seven trumpets and seven bowls). Twenty one is the combination of three times 7. Twenty-one speaks of God's perfect judgment. Six of the plagues mentioned in Egypt will be the same plagues that God will pour out on the earth during these last days. In the book of Revelation are mentioned the plague of locusts, frogs, boils, water and seas turned into blood, darkness, and hailstones, six of the same type of plagues. There are two witnesses in the book of Revelation who will call down judgment on the earth, just as there was in Egypt when Moses and Aaron brought down the plagues of judgment on the Egyptians.

Just as the plagues of judgment in Egypt grew in greater severity so also the plagues of judgment in the book of Revelation will increase in intensity concluding with the bowls which speak of God's wrath being poured out on the earth. And just as Pharaoh and the Egyptians hardened their hearts despite the plagues most of the people of the earth will harden their hearts toward God.

Even after the fourth and fifth plague people continued to harden their hearts. - Rev. 16:9 – The fourth plague was heat "And men were scorched with great heat and they blasphemed the name of God, who has power over these plagues, and they did not repent and give Him glory…" The fifth plague darkness. "They blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pain and their sores, and did not repent of their deeds."

The end time believer will also have an extraordinary escape, as did the Israelites in their escape through the Sea. In these last days, all believers in the Messiah will be taken through the veil between heaven and earth. In a moment in the twinkling of the eye at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound and the dead will be raised incorruptible and we will be changed and transported into heaven and then later return with the Messiah.

Because of the supernatural escape of the believers in the rapture in the last days prior to God's wrath, it will be even more dramatic than the escape of the Children of Israel through the sea. Just as the Egyptians foolishly pursued Israel into the sea, so also the armies of the Anti-Messiah will foolishly pursue Israel by sending his armies to invade the land of Israel in order to destroy the people of God. Zech 14- I,3-4,5a,b will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle.

Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations, as when He fights in the day of battle. And in that day His feet will stand on the Mt. of Olives and it will be split in half and the people of God will walk through. Just as the Sea was split in half so will the Mt. of Olives split in half when Yeshua returns. Just as the children of Israel experienced the protection of the plagues in Egypt but observed the drowning of the Egyptians on the other side of the sea. So all true believers in the Messiah will experience protection from the plagues of God's Judgment and we will actually help to execute the judgment of God when we return with the Messiah from the other side.

And just as Pharaoh’s troops were supernaturally defeated in the sea, so the Anti-Messiah and his armies will be supernaturally defeated and thrown into the lake of fire. After Yeshua judges the nations and executes His final judgment on the nations who came against Jerusalem, we will finally enter into our millennial rest with the Messiah. Passover is a very powerful and prophetic picture of what will take place in these final days prior to the coming of the Messiah. Yeshua is planning to make a second appearance but this time it will not be as the innocent Lamb of God but as the Lion from the tribe of Judah. Rev 19:11-16. Are you prepared to meet Him. Now is the day of salvation. Not later or sometime down the road. The time is NOW. Will you accept Him? If you hear His voice don’t harden your heart. Turn to Him, believe in Him. He is the way, the truth and the life. If you delay it may be too late and you will have missed out on the most important decision of your life. There is no time like the present. Turn from your sin and by faith believe in Yeshua and you will receive the gift of eternal life. Passover is a time of new beginnings."

[link to www.bethshechinah.com]

The Seven Seals, Seven Trumpets, Seven Vials all happen on a single day. It is on Passover.

When do the seven seals open up? When the Lamb is slain. When is the Lamb slained? On Passover!

ANY QUESTIONS?

The Passover Pattern

Bill Somers

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