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[PIN] Alert!! How Elenin causes earthquake - 138x Tidal Force in late Sep than Mar 11!!!

 
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and how do you explain the japan
earthquake took place 4 days
before!!! the alignment???
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That only works if Elenin is as big or bigger than Jupiter.

If it's a stinking tiny comet it exerts nothing on us. So decide how big elenin is.
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Yeah, cause you know something weighing around 50 tons can do that.... I mean when the earth only weighs 35 tons it's sure to effect us right? So if this is all true, can you point me to what damage Haleys comet did? How about growing up some? Do you really think, on a cosmic or even solar scale, that one little frakking rock is going to do some much damage to earth when it's THAT far away even? Heck people it would ONLY do that much damage if it hit and weighed a LOT more.
I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief...
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Right or Wrong, you get 5 stars for the effort put forth.

Good job OPie...

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OK, OP...I follow you on this line of theory. Not saying I agree with it....but...it's sure interesting. Sounds plausible. However, we're talking about lives here.....NOT.....observable output of your theoretical calculation on a given body (X). That body JUST HAPPENS TO BE Earth!

So, your job is NOT done, Sir.

To verify your theory whilst that variable Planet X, is still propelling through the heavens, it's still currently exerting tidal forces on the surface of the Sun during its flight path nearest or furthest the Sun, yes or no?

So, using Quantum Superposition, we need the parabolic trajectory and orbital velocity to calculate tidal forces as it decreases (moves away from us +/- Sun) and increase moves closer to us +/- Sun) in late fall once again. Correct?

What is its effect on the sun right now, using your model? .00006?

When will it slowly ratchet up and reach THAT SAME tidal force+ as it did March 11th, which, accordingly, may have caused the resulting EQ and Tsunami in Japan?

We need the linear solutions, Sir. How else are you going to save lives, potentially?
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uhoh

So much doom.....
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uhoh

So much doom.....
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And we like IT!!!!

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When will it slowly ratchet up and reach THAT SAME tidal force+ as it did March 11th, which, accordingly, may have caused the resulting EQ and Tsunami in Japan?
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why dont you people want to hear the fact,
that the japan-EQ was 4 days before!!! alignment

how does that fit in this theory !!!!!!!

im still waiting for an answer!
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When will it slowly ratchet up and reach THAT SAME tidal force+ as it did March 11th, which, accordingly, may have caused the resulting EQ and Tsunami in Japan?
 Quoting: PI


why dont you people want to hear the fact,
that the japan-EQ was 4 days before!!! alignment

how does that fit in this theory !!!!!!!

im still waiting for an answer!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316402


NO, I hear you. I'm just proposing the question to OP as it correlates to his calculations and theory? I am asking him (or her) to answer, please.

You cannot dismiss him/her outright without follow up questions, can you? Critical thinking, Man!
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[Fact 1] Very Weak Tidal Force from Other Planets to Earth

Scientists know that tidal force can cause earthquakes/volcanic activities (e.g., moonquakes, Jupiter's moon Io). However, the tidal force from other planets to earth is too small.
Ref: [link to seismo.berkeley.edu]

The tidal force of celestial objects:
Object | Mass | Dist | Relative Influence
--------- ------- ----- ------------------------
Moon 0.01228 0.38 1.00
Sun 329390 149 0.45
Venus 0.8073 41 0.000052
Jupiter 314.5 629 0.0000056
Mars 0.1065 79 0.00000096
Mercury 0.0549 91 0.00000033
Saturn 94.07 1277 0.00000020

Clearly, the tidal force of all the other planets on earth is 4~8 magnitude SMALLER than moon. However, we can find a totally different picture by inspecting the tidal force of planets to Sun discussed in [Fact 4].

 Quoting: Geophysical Events


How about our companion sun a brown dwarf?
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nice work OP damned
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==> In Sep 25-28, Elenin's tidal force on Sun will be (3.1/0.6)^3 ~= 138 TIMES compared to Mar 11, 2011!

If it's true, Hollywood disaster movies look like picnic.
 Quoting: Geophysical Events

People are going to be awfully disappointed when it doesn't happen. I'm sure those responsible though will be given a completely clean slate and absolute credibility for the next doom date though...
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I have been wondering why alignments involving elenin have resulted in so many earth quakes. Your theory resolves many issues. Thanks rken
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Remember that it's just still an unverified hypothesis. I don't know if it's true given that mainstream scientists keep ignoring this phenomenon. I'm waiting if someone can disprove it with evidence.

BTW, Thanks mods for the PIN. I need it. cool2
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Looking at JPL it's a shame we cannot compare the influence on another planet before it gets to us. Should be possible to see any EQs happening on ie. Mercury, but it looks like we're next in line...
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Re: [PIN] Alert!! How Elenin causes earthquake - 138x Tidal Force in late Sep than Mar 11!!!
The whole Elenin/Nibiru/Planet X thing is ALL ABOUT THE SUN. Here is my hypothesis:

Old theory of gravitational tug from other planets on Earth is usually dubbed as pseudoscience because it doesn't match the data.

Last week it struck me that planets exert tidal force on Sun (a gas star) and create "high tides" on it cyclically. It can explain many things!

1. The astrological/mythical planetary alignment can be explained by constructive interference of "tides" on Sun.

2. We can find scientific literature relating planetary cycles to solar cycles. It's not pseudoscience.

3. The tidal force exerted by different planet on Sun is SUPRISINGLY similar. The relative influence is as follows (Aphelion~Perihelion):
Earth = 1 (at 1AU)
Jupiter = 1.95~2.62
Venus = 2.11~2.20
Mercury = 0.54~1.90
Saturn = 0.092~0.128
Mars = 0.023~0.041


Scientists mock astrologists for putting planets with diverse properties in the same horoscope.

But it is truly amazing to know Jupiter (~318 earth mass), Earth, Venus (~0.8 earth mass), and Mercury (only 0.055 earth mass) all have similar magnitude of tidal force on Sun.

4. There are two high tides (bulges) in the near and far side respectively on a celestial body. It explains why we see earthquakes with alignments like Jupiter-Sun-Earth and Venus-Sun-Earth all the time (which means the other planet is in the far side of Sun).

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If this is true, remember that strength of tidal force is proportional to inverse cube of distance (not r^(-2), but r^(-3))

The past 4 Elenin-Earth-Sun alignments caused 3 M8+ mega earthquake.


In Mar 11, 2011, Elenin is 3.1 AU from the Sun. M9.0 Earthquake in Japan
In Sep 25-28, 2011, when Earth-Elenin-Sun-Mercury will be aligned, Elenin is 0.6 AU from the Sun

==> In Sep 25-28, Elenin's tidal force on Sun will be (3.1/0.6)^3 ~= 138 TIMES compared to Mar 11, 2011!


If it's true, Hollywood disaster movies look like picnic.

I also wrote detailed discussion in another thread, I'll copy it below later.
 Quoting: Geophysical Events


Well, if the Moon has tidal effects on the Earth then the planets have a similar effect on the Sun.
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Looking at JPL it's a shame we cannot compare the influence on another planet before it gets to us.
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If it were exerting that much force, enough to cause earthquakes from tidal interactions at over an AU away, it would also be exerting enough pull on the asteroids, which are much closer to it, to detectably perturb their positions.
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and how do you explain the japan
earthquake took place 4 days
before!!! the alignment???
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No, I can't. I only hear that X37B Space shuttle flew over Japan at that moment. I didn't check it by myself.

I don't know the real mechanism why tides on Sun facing directly to earth will cause earthquakes.

Unless it's figured out or disproved, there are still many speculations.
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And beyond minor planetary interactions lay a deeply mysterious force that influences gravitational ponds, beneath the electron level. Interactions change, not necessarily become stronger.
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Re: [PIN] Alert!! How Elenin causes earthquake - 138x Tidal Force in late Sep than Mar 11!!!
Hi OP, so how big would Elenin have to be (approx. mass) to cause these effects on Earth? Call it a S.W.A.G.

We'll find out more when GLP Observatory is finished.

Good Work!!
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Theoretically, we can calculate the intruder's mass by checking the perturbation of the orbits of other planets.

However, this is the key data related to the cover-up. I don't know govt is really hiding the facts of Elenin or it's just our paranoid wild imagination.
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OP, did you check to see if the same held true for the Haiti earthquake??
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Question ? You seem very Knowlegable.


Could the earth at one time had a water expanse that existed above the earth. Is that pysically possible.

the holy Bible indicates that there was a water expance above the earth.

this fell during the deluge or flood.

in fact the word deluge means to flood or fall

Any thoughts
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thanks for the info OP
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Theoretically, we can calculate the intruder's mass by checking the perturbation of the orbits of other planets.
 Quoting: Geophysical Events


Elenin's mass is so low, it won't even detectably perturb asteroids it passes only 0.002 AUs from. May 20th, Friday, asteroid 1999 RQ176 will be only 338,403 km from Elenin and will pass through its tail. Even so, any gravitational perturbation will be below our ability to detect, meaning Elenin's mass must be very low compared to a planet.
[link to spaceobs.org]
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Question ? You seem very Knowlegable.


Could the earth at one time had a water expanse that existed above the earth. Is that pysically possible.

the holy Bible indicates that there was a water expance above the earth.

this fell during the deluge or flood.

in fact the word deluge means to flood or fall

Any thoughts
 Quoting: revealerofsecrets


We live in a world of deception, the art of deception and mass manipulation has been the paramount order for thousands of years. Why do you think? The reality is stranger than fact and more so 99% of what is thought.

Yes, events of such have happened... Where did all the world go from Mars in a sudden flash?
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==> In Sep 25-28, Elenin's tidal force on Sun will be (3.1/0.6)^3 ~= 138 TIMES compared to Mar 11, 2011!

If it's true, Hollywood disaster movies look like picnic.
 Quoting: Geophysical Events

People are going to be awfully disappointed when it doesn't happen. I'm sure those responsible though will be given a completely clean slate and absolute credibility for the next doom date though...
 Quoting: Astronut


Hey OP, the fact that you flushed out Astronut (whose job is to report to every serious Elenin thread and debunk) and ^THIS^ is the best he could do means you must be on to something! GREAT JOB and thanks for the info!!!

If anyone is more prepared for what is coming it will be NO THANKS to our governments or the people they pay to keep this under-wraps! It will be thanks to people like you who actually think for yourself (right or wrong) and put the info out there for others to do the same!

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5 stars for effort and brain exercises
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Hey OP, the fact that you flushed out Astronut (whose job is to report to every serious Elenin thread and debunk) and ^THIS^ is the best he could do means you must be on to something!
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


When Friday comes and goes and 1999 RQ176 is still intact and unperturbed, what will you say for yourself then? Will you admit I was right and apologize to me?
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Re: [PIN] Alert!! How Elenin causes earthquake - 138x Tidal Force in late Sep than Mar 11!!!
Hypothetically, if all but one of the 8 planets were on the same side of the Sun, their gravitational influences would affect the planet in opposition.
I imagine that the effects would be similar to gravitational lensing.





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