Elenin fails to perturb a small asteroid at 0.002 AUs distance

How about 1 year. A week isn't convincing.

Ok, let me throw this out there, what about a Brown Dwarf that's twice the size of Jupiter, WOW, is that too much take in, it makes it's approach every 3600 years. But wait, that is direct conflict with the CIA/FBI/NSA/FOX/NBC/ABC/CBS/CNN fucking BS.

Comet Lulin apparently "caused" earthquakes as well. Around the time of opposition in 2007 when it was in alignment with the earth and sun it caused some severe earthquake activity. This includes the magnitude 8 earthquake in Peru, as well as a couple of other 6.5 magnitude quakes. In February 2008 when it aligned with earth and the sun on the other side of the sun, there were 2 6.9 magnitude quakes, a 6.6, and a 6.5 magnitude quake. On July 19, 2008, it caused a magnitude 7 earthquake in Japan and a 6.6 in Santa Cruz when it aligned with the sun and earth in opposition again. On November 24 2008 when it was in alignment with the sun and earth again in a conjuction arrangement, it caused a 7.3 magnitude earthquake in Okhotsk. July 4th, 2009 it causes a 6.1 earthquake in panama while lined up with the sun and earth. On December 19th it causes a magnitude 6.4 earthquake in Taiwan and a magnitude 6 earthquake in Malawi on its way out of the solar system.

Dont get me wrong.
I`m not a doomtard.
don`t want doom.
doom not good.

if its what I think it might be then
astro and the shillitary are just trying
to avoid mass panic.
this is very admirable.

if this is true then these really are the good guys.

I hope astro is not a shill and me and others are wrong.

so astro, in a strange sorta way, I`m actually rooting
for ya.

definitely do not want to see any doom.

but with this MASSIVE PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN being
unleashed on the world lately, its hard to trust
anyone who takes an official government stance.



I hope you understand my point of view.

There is a tiny ball of ice that a disinfo campaign has managed to stir up an unreasonable amount of attention regarding...

I think you most definitely SHOULD panic a little, but not about the comet.

take two magnets and put them together....the stronger magnet will attract the weaker one

....if the two are magnetised and are EQUAL...they will repell...... this is a simple experiment.... anyone can do...

if elenin attracked the magma and caused the 8M earthquake March 2011,

and it's going to be 23 times stronger in September 27-29...the magma at the core could easily shift and be attracked to elenin pulling us around/reversing our rotation. this is what i can envision.....intuitively....PLUS, what God has told Isaiah in Chapter 45 verse 6...will come to pass.

THANK YOU FATHER
heart

Wow you are an idiot.

A human invented the internal combustion so of course they know how that works.

No one know's who invented the earth, the universe and the stars. So the how's and why's of their workings will forever remain a mystery to human's.

The line-ups of the comet, earth and the sun and associated large EQ's are what are preventing me from thinking this is just another comet.

I really want elenin to be a spectacle in our sky but if it seems to tie-in with large EQ's occuring on earth...surely as it gets closer it will exert more force on the sun, earth and the results be mega EQ's?

I'm seriously wanting some educated answers. No shilling or OTT speculation. When you look at the line-ups it DOES give credence to Elenin causing more destruction on its way through.

Coincidence could occur once or twice - but all the line-ups of elenin have ALL caused large EQ's on earth.

Remember the game when you were a kid of popping shapes into corresponding holes? Well i'm kinda at that level still...hahaaa...i'm seeing some shapes to this Elenin lark that won't fit any other way than to expect more destruction!

Please Astronut tell me why Elenin poses no threat to earth? The data suggests otherwise.

Dont get me wrong.
I`m not a doomtard.
don`t want doom.
doom not good.

if its what I think it might be then
astro and the shillitary are just trying
to avoid mass panic.
this is very admirable.

if this is true then these really are the good guys.

I hope astro is not a shill and me and others are wrong.

so astro, in a strange sorta way, I`m actually rooting
for ya.

definitely do not want to see any doom.

but with this MASSIVE PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN being
unleashed on the world lately, its hard to trust
anyone who takes an official government stance.



I hope you understand my point of view.

Yes or no; do we know the orbital path as it pertains to this apparition, or will it become unpredictable once it crosses the ecliptic? Please note the context of my reply. At very long timepoints, smaller and smaller effects become very significant, particularly for very eccentric orbits where galactic tides and gravitational attraction from nearby stars and oort cloud objects becomes significant compared to the sun's gravity. I don't seehow that is relevant to this discussion of this comet's only apparition in our lifetimes.

When all else fails, try to get the other person to shut up. Interesting approach, but still the same general goal. Fine. I promise not to post anything online for 1 week. We'll see just if this stops the "shill" cries after I return. I'm sure it won't. Oh, and prepare to be vilified by others as you just prevented me from being able to broadcast ISS and the shuttle for GLP this week. Good going. I will not post until next Monday. Have a nice week!

When all else fails, try to get the other person to shut up. Interesting approach, but still the same general goal. Fine. I promise not to post anything online for 1 week. We'll see just if this stops the "shill" cries after I return. I'm sure it won't. Oh, and prepare to be vilified by others as you just prevented me from being able to broadcast ISS and the shuttle for GLP this week. Good going. I will not post until next Monday. Have a nice week!

no just take a week off from the elenin nibiru thing.
don`t halt your life just for me.

keep on with your other stuff. no problem here

What "line-ups"?

Have you just come out of hibernation or something?

I'm referring to the alignments between the sun, earth and comet Elenin...and their apparent destructive nature.

Lotsa shills on this thread. Guess they really are worried that we know that they are lying shits like you. Now stuff the patronizing bs up your ass and keep shilling like your paid to do

I thought that was a government psy-op to eliminate the supposed "cult" and obfuscate Nibiru/2012 mayhem?,...
Like Waco and the like.

My bad.


Z

The pictures you posted could be faked, your entire "investigation" could have been fabricated BS.

Funny how some people have the authority to post something everyone will fall over themselves believing without a doubt. Other's post something and are branded liars, loons, mentally unstable.

Guess Astronut has the authority to post something which is instant truth.

Nothing more to see here, move along.

I can personally say much public scientific research is garbage, but that's for another thread. Suffice it to say, one should always be aware of the impactor factor rating of a journal, and even that's not always enough.

The real problem is that I fundamentally disagree with the decision to set aside the stringency of these so-called alignments. Other comets meet the same criteria in the same time period if you mine the dataset for them, but they're not given any attention because they lack a flashy name or in some cases because they're relatively farther away. If you make the stringency low enough so that each "alignment" encompasses a span of time of several days, sooner or later you will find a comet that "appears" to be causing earthquakes. If it were actually doing that to earth though from almost 2 AUs away, then of course a tiny little asteroid sitting right next to it shouldn't stand a chance of being unperturbed.

Low mass, a trajectory that doesn't result in an impact, and the fact that it doesn't even affect objects much closer to it than we'll ever be.

Won't be able to until next week; all the time alloted to me was spent already and I cannot get more time on the telescope for a week. There are no background stars at that position though.

No, the chance that it's a background star is infinitely less than the probability that the so-called correlation between "alignments" and earthquakes on earth was more than chance since we know that there shouldn't be any background stars at that position. Here's a sky survey image centered on the exact coordinates the asteroid was detected. The asteroid's position is the exact center of this image, and as you can see, there are no stars there at all.
[link to archive.stsci.edu]

PIN this thread. I admire facts from real observation! It can bring us closer to the truth.

Now I have two more questions left

1. The asteroid is very dim. The sky is full of objects with 19 apparent magnitude everywhere. Can you double check it's RQ176? For example, taking two shots at different time to show RQ176 is actually moving and not a remote star. Once we have such photos, we can settle the dispute over Elenin's mass once and for all.

2. How Elenin causes M8+ earthquakes still remains a mystery.

I want to say again, it's hardly a coincidence. Elenin happens to have very small inclination 1.839°, so it can form a straight line between planets and the Sun.

M8+ earthquakes are very rare, but there were M8.1, M8.8, and M9.0 in the past four Elenin's alignments. There are only thirty M8+ mega earthquakes since 1975 (35 years), all of the last three M8+ earthquakes happened in Elenin's alignment! Only eleven M8.6+ mega earthquakes in the past 100 years, two happened with Elenin's alignment . The probability of random events is almost 0. We still need an explanation!!!

USGS database search:
[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

PDE 1975 05 26 091151.50 36.00 -17.65 33 8.1 UKPAS 6D. .T.....
PDE 1976 01 14 164733.50 -28.43 -177.66 33 8.2 UKBRK .D. .T.....
PDE 1977 04 21 042409.60 -9.97 160.73 33 8.1 UKPAS 7C. .T.....
PDE 1977 08 19 060855.20 -11.09 118.46 33 8.0 UKPAS .C. .T.....
PDE 1980 07 17 194223.20 -12.52 165.92 33 8.0 UKBRK .F. .T.....
PDE 1985 09 19 131747.35 18.19 -102.53 27 8.0 MwHRV 9CM .TS...M
PDE 1986 05 07 224710.87 51.52 -174.78 33 8.0 MwHRV 6DM .T.....
PDE 1986 10 20 064609.98 -28.12 -176.37 29 8.3 MSBRK .FM .T.....
PDE 1989 05 23 105446.32 -52.34 160.57 10 8.2 MsGS 5FM .T.....
PDE 1994 06 09 003316.23 -13.84 -67.55 631 8.2 MwGS .CM ......S
PDE 1994 10 04 132255.84 43.77 147.32 14 8.3 MwHRV 9CM .T....S
PDE 1995 07 30 051123.63 -23.34 -70.29 45 8.0 MwGS 7CM .T....S
PDE 1995 10 09 153553.91 19.06 -104.21 33 8.0 MwHRV .CM ST....S
PDE 1996 02 17 055930.55 -0.89 136.95 33 8.2 MwHRV .CM .T.....
PDE 1998 03 25 031225.07 -62.88 149.53 10 8.1 MwHRV ..M .......
PDE 2000 11 16 045456.74 -3.98 152.17 33 8.0 MwHRV .CM STS...S
PDE 2001 06 23 203314.13 -16.26 -73.64 33 8.4 MwHRV 8CM .T....S
PDE 2003 09 25 195006.36 41.81 143.91 27 8.3 MwHRV 8CM .T....S
PDE 2004 12 23 145904.41 -49.31 161.35 10 8.1 MwHRV .FM .T.....
PDE 2004 12 26 005853.45 3.30 95.98 30 9.1 Mw01100 9CM STS...M
PDE 2005 03 28 160936.53 2.09 97.11 30 8.6 MwHRV 8CM 3TS....
PDE 2006 05 03 152640.29 -20.19 -174.12 55 8.0 MwHRV 7CM .T.....
PDE 2006 11 15 111413.57 46.59 153.27 10 8.3 MwGCMT 4CM .T.....
PDE 2007 01 13 042321.16 46.24 154.52 10 8.1 MwGCMT 6FM .T.....
PDE 2007 04 01 203958.71 -8.47 157.04 24 8.1 MwGCMT .CM UT....S
PDE 2007 08 15 234057.89 -13.39 -76.60 39 8.0 MwGCMT 9CM .T....M
PDE 2007 09 12 111026.83 -4.44 101.37 34 8.5 MwGCMT 6CM .TS....
PDE 2009 09 29 174810.99 -15.49 -172.10 18 8.1 MwGCMT 6CM .T.....
PDE-W 2010 02 27 063411.53 -36.12 -72.90 22 8.8 MwUCMT 9CM UTS....
PDE-Q 2011 03 11 054624.12 38.30 142.37 29 9.0 MwUCMT XCM STS...M


If Elenin has tiny mass, I can only think of some possibilities

[Hypothesis A] TPTB HAARP/X37-B it whenever it forms an alignment. Elenin is a psyop

How to verify it:
Understand the mechanism of HAARP in full and find relevant measurements to detect it.

[Hypothesis B] Elenin is static charged like Comet NEAT (2002-2003) (a strongly charged comet seems not rare in space):

[link to www.thunderbolts.info]


A typical comet may weight 10^14 kg, Sun is weighted 2 * 10^30 kg, a comet is 0.0000000000000001 Sun Mass, it's like a bee flying over a mountain. How can a comet influence Sun? But the truth is "Yes it can". Check the web link above. You can see it clearly. NASA explained to the public that it's coincidence

:COMETNEAT:
YouTube Video: [link to www.youtube.com]

Pity that Comet NEAT has 81.7° of inclination (it can never form a line between Earth and Sun), so we cannot use it as a reference.

Coulomb's force is multiple magnitude stronger than gravitational force, so a tiny object can possibly exert strong Coulomb's force on Sun. Comet NEAT is very tiny compared to the Sun, but it caused a giant CME.

In this case, Elenin can influence Sun (composed of plasma), but cannot influence a asteroid (composed of rock)

This can possibly explain the earthquakes caused by Elenin's alignment

"Perhaps the observation of Nobel Laureate Hannes Alfvén, the father of plasma cosmology, can put the issue in context. It was his opinion that coronal mass ejections are caused by a breakdown or breach of the Sun’s double layer—an event that provokes an explosive exchange between the insulated plasma cell of the Sun and the plasma of surrounding space."

How to verify this theory:
a. Observe the Sun. The plasma composition on Sun's surface may be influenced.
b. The attraction from Sun to Elenin may induce small changes to Elenin's orbit. (to be calculated later)
c. There will be a Magnetic Field from Elenin near Earth in late Sep and early Oct. (but it's already too late to find out)

What it implies if it's true:
the influence by Elenin on Sun in late September will be (3.1/0.6)^2 ~= 26.7 times of Mar 11, 2011

[Hypothesis C] Elenin has strong magnetic field

How to verify it: I don't know

[Hypothesis D] Just a BIG coincidence! As you can see the M8+ listed in the past 35 years, the probability is very low.

GREAT REBUTTAL! So it's effect on earth will be magnetic and not actual? As in- the "comet" won't MOVE earth (just it didn't move the asteroid). WHEW-

OH WAIT

It will still affect the magnetic grid of the earth and of course shake some debris our way. Coincides with Revelations and the pure DOOM to be expected from this bad boy.

nice try- but we will ALL see soon enough.

BTW- nothing to see- it's just a comet- please relax- don't even worry about the earthquake alignments. Continue to pay taxes, and get drunk and party like it's 1999. Thank you.

Man I can't wait for September 2011.....get to spend some time on Elenin EPIC FAIL threads. Its gonna be great.

Have you studied physics in university or high school? Do you know there are four fundamental physical force?

Have you studied physics in university or high school? Do you know there are four fundamental physical force?

because he is a paid government shill and so are u

So now you're trying to find my life outside of GLP? Why are you trying to stalk me? I suspect that one day one of you is going to go too far and harass me outside the forum, then I will leave and you'll get your wish, but be careful what you wish for. I guess some would rather have their fantasies than know the truth.