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-= Possible fire at Fukushima as large amounts of smoke come from Reactor 4 =-

 
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ok i feel bad for the op because a lot of shills have taken to this thread. So let me start here

www.lucaswhitefieldhixson.blogspot.com

or my youtube channel

compassnorthchicago

I have been following the Fukushima situation full-time since mid-March.

I have posted ample data and media online, that have been reviewed and approved by nuclear experts including Dr Caldicott and Dr Busby (unlike most of the loud voices on forums)

I also have proof - ie Pictures and media showing a pattern of nighttime events at Fukushima

so before you shill this comment, go do and find a fraction of the data I have, then review it for 60 days, then lets talk


1 - I don't see evidence of fire - the "orange glow" is in my opinion likely a boom from the cement sprayers they are using to inject water

2 - in my opinion this is smoke not steam, as evidenced by the density and color

3 - The plant is not lit up like the picture of the American plant, because THEY DO NOT HAVE AMPLE POWER - anyone who reads the news understands that THE ENTIRE NATION IS REGULATING POWER

4 - They are using industrial floodlights to light the location, but have been experiencing power flickering tonight

5 - THIS IS NOT A WEBCAM - its a television camera set up by TBS/JNN capturing the feed from outside the evacuation zone. If you look at the videos on my youtube channel you get a picture
This shows how far away the camera is





However this has happened 3 times this week, and on average we see this much displacement at least 2 times a week for the last 3 weeks running, if you haven't seen it, you just haven't been watching.
 Quoting: thebluestlight


You are a huckster for products to sell like potassium iodide, geiger counters, respirators and such. You are the K-Mart of all things nuke and have no credibility here because you have a financial interest in furthering this story.
My interest is revealing what is obviously being hoaxed.
And this "TV show" is, no doubt.
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It's been going for well over an hour now and dosn't seem to be slowing down much

Pin?
 Quoting: Rane


Actually, it's been going on for 2 months. Just wake up?
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Re: -= Possible fire at Fukushima as large amounts of smoke come from Reactor 4 =-
I always have the stream running in the on one of my monitors just to keep an eye on the situation. And I noticed about 20 minutes ago a fairly large amount of smoke was coming from reactor 4, and slightly less from reactor 3.

While I was waiting to see if anything more major would happen from this they started dimming the lights on the plant and then completely shut them off making the plant unviewable by the camera since it's night there.

Link to the cam: [link to www.youtube.com]

You can sorta see the smoke in this camera on the tepco site which updates with still images: [link to www.tepco.co.jp]

I'll look to see if any news stories come up about it over the next few hours.

(while I was typing this I noticed the lights flicker back on for a few seconds and the smoke was still coming from reactor 4)
 Quoting: Rane


It's sunday, and theyre having a barbeque, and a funeral pyre.
Havent you heard, no worries, everythings fine!
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Re: -= Possible fire at Fukushima as large amounts of smoke come from Reactor 4 =-
ok i feel bad for the op because a lot of shills have taken to this thread. So let me start here

www.lucaswhitefieldhixson.blogspot.com

or my youtube channel

compassnorthchicago

I have been following the Fukushima situation full-time since mid-March.

I have posted ample data and media online, that have been reviewed and approved by nuclear experts including Dr Caldicott and Dr Busby (unlike most of the loud voices on forums)

I also have proof - ie Pictures and media showing a pattern of nighttime events at Fukushima

so before you shill this comment, go do and find a fraction of the data I have, then review it for 60 days, then lets talk


1 - I don't see evidence of fire - the "orange glow" is in my opinion likely a boom from the cement sprayers they are using to inject water

2 - in my opinion this is smoke not steam, as evidenced by the density and color

3 - The plant is not lit up like the picture of the American plant, because THEY DO NOT HAVE AMPLE POWER - anyone who reads the news understands that THE ENTIRE NATION IS REGULATING POWER

4 - They are using industrial floodlights to light the location, but have been experiencing power flickering tonight

5 - THIS IS NOT A WEBCAM - its a television camera set up by TBS/JNN capturing the feed from outside the evacuation zone. If you look at the videos on my youtube channel you get a picture
This shows how far away the camera is





However this has happened 3 times this week, and on average we see this much displacement at least 2 times a week for the last 3 weeks running, if you haven't seen it, you just haven't been watching.
 Quoting: thebluestlight


You are a huckster for products to sell like potassium iodide, geiger counters, respirators and such. You are the K-Mart of all things nuke and have no credibility here because you have a financial interest in furthering this story.
My interest is revealing what is obviously being hoaxed.
And this "TV show" is, no doubt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


No one can believe anything. Especially MSM - lol.
Get a meter, do your own tests. Speak with people in Japan on Japanese forums and blogs. Workers not being allowed in tells all.
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05/22/2011 12:27 PM
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Re: -= Possible fire at Fukushima as large amounts of smoke come from Reactor 4 =-
If there is smoke and steam coming from 4 now, spent rods are burning.
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Really, your just an idiot man. F%$& off

If I facepalm any harder at half the crap your saying I might cause brain damage
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There are 2 fires going on right now.. you have to look hard to spot them though.

i mean this is from like 40 miles out, dont forget.
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


Webcam located 40 miles away? Really?
HAhahahaha!

Must be quite the zoom! HA!

This does not appear to be taken from a mountainside.
Where is the fabled camera situated?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


:::epic facepalm:::

It actually is on a mountain quite far from the nuclear plant and it's mega zoomed in, which is why the quality is so poor..

Remember, the webcam must be outside the mandatory evac zone...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1220093


Name the mountain, please so I can find it on google maps and get a perspective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273

I have an idea, why don't you pull your finger out of your ass and research it yourself? I think I speak for most on here when I say we don't give a flying feck what your opinion is or what you have to say. What you believe and what you dont is of zero interest to anyone, if I could hear you talk it would sound like this waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa....
stfu
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Webcam located 40 miles away? Really?
HAhahahaha!

Must be quite the zoom! HA!

This does not appear to be taken from a mountainside.
Where is the fabled camera situated?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


Man, no one here thinks the cam is fake... that's not what the threads about either. Thinking the cam is fake is simply just retarded.
 Quoting: Rane


I think it is. Now you explain please the light source on the reactors only. There are people there around the clock that would have lights on the plant as a whole.

And why the quality of this video should differ from any other webcam?

It looks like one of their daytime photos of the prop has been scaled down and appears on a black screen to be "night'.

So the gray fog screen, that's "day" and this is night?
Has it ever rained since you have been watching?
Ever seen any activity at all except the bird soundtrack?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


putin

Yes, I've seen it rain, fog, waves in the background, birds fly by, ships out in the sea when the destroyers were there, the fires that happened the first time, machinery moving around, helicopters flying over. I've seen loads there...

And this nuclear power plant was hit by an earthquake, massive explosion, multiple fires and is currently in the middle of a melt down. So stop comparing it to other plants with your flickr pics wondering why it dosn't look all pretty and perfect.
 Quoting: Rane


What is the light source on the reactors only?
Show me another example of television footage shot from 40 miles away. I can't find any myself.

Waves in the background?
There is a seawall there and it is BEHIND the long turbine room which isn't even shown in the photo and you see waves?
None of the round liquid containers. The parking lot which is on a higher elevation. Nothing for 40 miles in between this "mountain" and the plant? You know, before the exclusion zone, there should have been something there.
It's Japan, one of the most closely developed places on Earth.
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Really, your just an idiot man. F%$& off

If I facepalm any harder at half the crap your saying I might cause brain damage
 Quoting: Rane


Why don't you fuck off with these idiot threads everyday about about a bunch of fake videos and whether or not there is any fake fire or fake smoke or fake radiation coming out of them?
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Really, your just an idiot man. F%$& off

If I facepalm any harder at half the crap your saying I might cause brain damage
 Quoting: Rane


Why don't you fuck off with these idiot threads everyday about about a bunch of fake videos and whether or not there is any fake fire or fake smoke or fake radiation coming out of them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


waaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa
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What is the light source on the reactors only?
Show me another example of television footage shot from 40 miles away. I can't find any myself.

Waves in the background?
There is a seawall there and it is BEHIND the long turbine room which isn't even shown in the photo and you see waves?
None of the round liquid containers. The parking lot which is on a higher elevation. Nothing for 40 miles in between this "mountain" and the plant? You know, before the exclusion zone, there should have been something there.
It's Japan, one of the most closely developed places on Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


In denial and the throes of idiocy...iamwith
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Re: -= Possible fire at Fukushima as large amounts of smoke come from Reactor 4 =-
The orange glow sure does appear to flicker as a fire would.

Still holding off judgement, but my first instinct says its on fire.

Watch the live feed full screen for a few....
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Re: -= Possible fire at Fukushima as large amounts of smoke come from Reactor 4 =-
And if you look at the base of reactor 4 I think you can see a slight orange glow occasionally... Is that just me or does anyone else notice that too?
 Quoting: Rane


It's not obvious, but I do see a trace of dark orange near the base of the building. Strange that more smoke (or steam) isn't rising from it.
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Oh crap, I just had a flashback to all the fire controversy surrounding the oil spill and the live ROV cams.

Thank God that is over.....and now this!!!
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Really, your just an idiot man. F%$& off

If I facepalm any harder at half the crap your saying I might cause brain damage
 Quoting: Rane


Why don't you fuck off with these idiot threads everyday about about a bunch of fake videos and whether or not there is any fake fire or fake smoke or fake radiation coming out of them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


waaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa
 Quoting: Fireengineer


Man... get a grip on reality

I know this is a conspiracy site but use your head man
It seems to scare the bejeesus out of you to accept that this is happening and it's real.
Face reality and prepare yourself for what might happen instead of sticking your head in the sand
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What is the light source on the reactors only?
Show me another example of television footage shot from 40 miles away. I can't find any myself.

Waves in the background?
There is a seawall there and it is BEHIND the long turbine room which isn't even shown in the photo and you see waves?
None of the round liquid containers. The parking lot which is on a higher elevation. Nothing for 40 miles in between this "mountain" and the plant? You know, before the exclusion zone, there should have been something there.
It's Japan, one of the most closely developed places on Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


In denial and the throes of idiocy...iamwith
 Quoting: Waterbug


Don't you band of idiots already have a thread somewhere to sit around selling each other on your belief in the msm's latest fakeries starring that bastion of corportate truthiness TEPCO?
It is all a lie.
Cause TEPCO may be powerful, but Exxon-Mobile and Conoco-Phillips trumps them cold.
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What is the light source on the reactors only?
Show me another example of television footage shot from 40 miles away. I can't find any myself.

Waves in the background?
There is a seawall there and it is BEHIND the long turbine room which isn't even shown in the photo and you see waves?
None of the round liquid containers. The parking lot which is on a higher elevation. Nothing for 40 miles in between this "mountain" and the plant? You know, before the exclusion zone, there should have been something there.
It's Japan, one of the most closely developed places on Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


In denial and the throes of idiocy...iamwith
 Quoting: Waterbug


Don't you band of idiots already have a thread somewhere to sit around selling each other on your belief in the msm's latest fakeries starring that bastion of corportate truthiness TEPCO?
It is all a lie.
Cause TEPCO may be powerful, but Exxon-Mobile and Conoco-Phillips trumps them cold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


Shill much.

It's not just TEPCO you idiot. It's the nuke lobby and all that goes with that. Gov't funding, subsidies, uranium industry, techs, stocks, shit. I could go on, and on, and on. Stupid lays on you like a blanket.

Wake the fuck up. This is real. It's happening now and your vacuous attempt at denial changes nothing.
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And if you look at the base of reactor 4 I think you can see a slight orange glow occasionally... Is that just me or does anyone else notice that too?
 Quoting: Rane


Yes it looks like you can see the same thing at the base of the stacks at reactor 3 too.
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It's been going for well over an hour now and dosn't seem to be slowing down much

Pin?
 Quoting: Rane


Actually, it's been going on for 2 months. Just wake up?
 Quoting: Waterbug


It would be nice if all the "Current Fukushima" Shills would crawl back into their thread.

I loved how you guys didn't even touch the readings that were released the other day of radiation levels from other prefectures. They were basically off the charts, but you guys would rather sit there and Stroke off COINTELRAD.

I noticed they really didnt touch the video that Lucas released yesterday showing large amounts of steam and smoke being generated by reactor 3 either, that thread is shill heaven, that is why they boot anyone with a different opinion.
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What is the light source on the reactors only?
Show me another example of television footage shot from 40 miles away. I can't find any myself.

Waves in the background?
There is a seawall there and it is BEHIND the long turbine room which isn't even shown in the photo and you see waves?
None of the round liquid containers. The parking lot which is on a higher elevation. Nothing for 40 miles in between this "mountain" and the plant? You know, before the exclusion zone, there should have been something there.
It's Japan, one of the most closely developed places on Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


In denial and the throes of idiocy...iamwith
 Quoting: Waterbug


Don't you band of idiots already have a thread somewhere to sit around selling each other on your belief in the msm's latest fakeries starring that bastion of corportate truthiness TEPCO?
It is all a lie.
Cause TEPCO may be powerful, but Exxon-Mobile and Conoco-Phillips trumps them cold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


Shill much.

It's not just TEPCO you idiot. It's the nuke lobby and all that goes with that. Gov't funding, subsidies, uranium industry, techs, stocks, shit. I could go on, and on, and on. Stupid lays on you like a blanket.

Wake the fuck up. This is real. It's happening now and your vacuous attempt at denial changes nothing.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yes. Didn't the NRC say that there was 0% of a containment vessel leaking and now there are 5-6 onsite that have ruptured containment vessels with corium eating through the basement cement as we speak, headed for the water table. They knew once something like this happened the GAME was UP. They knew the dangers of nuclear power yet continued to push it and falsify data to trick the public and continue their money making schemes.

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It's been going for well over an hour now and dosn't seem to be slowing down much

Pin?
 Quoting: Rane


Actually, it's been going on for 2 months. Just wake up?
 Quoting: Waterbug


It would be nice if all the "Current Fukushima" Shills would crawl back into their thread.

I loved how you guys didn't even touch the readings that were released the other day of radiation levels from other prefectures. They were basically off the charts, but you guys would rather sit there and Stroke off COINTELRAD.

I noticed they really didnt touch the video that Lucas released yesterday showing large amounts of steam and smoke being generated by reactor 3 either, that thread is shill heaven, that is why they boot anyone with a different opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1188964


Whatsamatter? You get banned for being a hopeless moran or something. Sounds like you have an agenda. Wonder what it is? butt
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Are radnet and the other independent geiger network still up and running?
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It's been going for well over an hour now and dosn't seem to be slowing down much

Pin?
 Quoting: Rane


Actually, it's been going on for 2 months. Just wake up?
 Quoting: Waterbug


It would be nice if all the "Current Fukushima" Shills would crawl back into their thread.

I loved how you guys didn't even touch the readings that were released the other day of radiation levels from other prefectures. They were basically off the charts, but you guys would rather sit there and Stroke off COINTELRAD.

I noticed they really didnt touch the video that Lucas released yesterday showing large amounts of steam and smoke being generated by reactor 3 either, that thread is shill heaven, that is why they boot anyone with a different opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1188964


Whatsamatter? You get banned for being a hopeless moran or something. Sounds like you have an agenda. Wonder what it is? butt
 Quoting: Waterbug


Truth, not push products on my site that barely runs because it eats RAM. You just sit back and let the shills in that thread walk all over you and ignore you because you want to continue to be able to post your website, so you can get more views and traffic....next!whatever
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What is the light source on the reactors only?
Show me another example of television footage shot from 40 miles away. I can't find any myself.

Waves in the background?
There is a seawall there and it is BEHIND the long turbine room which isn't even shown in the photo and you see waves?
None of the round liquid containers. The parking lot which is on a higher elevation. Nothing for 40 miles in between this "mountain" and the plant? You know, before the exclusion zone, there should have been something there.
It's Japan, one of the most closely developed places on Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


In denial and the throes of idiocy...iamwith
 Quoting: Waterbug


Don't you band of idiots already have a thread somewhere to sit around selling each other on your belief in the msm's latest fakeries starring that bastion of corportate truthiness TEPCO?
It is all a lie.
Cause TEPCO may be powerful, but Exxon-Mobile and Conoco-Phillips trumps them cold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


So these pictures are fakes, I don't think so.
[link to cryptome.org]
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And if you look at the base of reactor 4 I think you can see a slight orange glow occasionally... Is that just me or does anyone else notice that too?
 Quoting: Rane


Yes it looks like you can see the same thing at the base of the stacks at reactor 3 too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1188964


There was smoke coming from reactor 3 earlier as well, but it slowed down and then stopped
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Fukushima? Is that still going on? I thought we were finished with that... Silly nuketards.

sheeplebah
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When did a nuclear meltdown become ok? Propaganda much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1301689


Relax. He was being sarcastic. Notice his screen name.
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There are 2 fires going on right now.. you have to look hard to spot them though.

i mean this is from like 40 miles out, dont forget.
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


Webcam located 40 miles away? Really?
HAhahahaha!

Must be quite the zoom! HA!

This does not appear to be taken from a mountainside.
Where is the fabled camera situated?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


Man, no one here thinks the cam is fake... that's not what the threads about either. Thinking the cam is fake is simply just retarded.
 Quoting: Rane


I think it is. Now you explain please the light source on the reactors only. There are people there around the clock that would have lights on the plant as a whole.

And why the quality of this video should differ from any other webcam?

It looks like one of their daytime photos of the prop has been scaled down and appears on a black screen to be "night'.

So the gray fog screen, that's "day" and this is night?
Has it ever rained since you have been watching?
Ever seen any activity at all except the bird soundtrack?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155273


I have seen a lot of activity on the webcam. One afternoon a few days ago I saw loads of birds flying by. The camera sometimes gives us very clear images and sometimes very poor images.
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There was smoke coming from reactor 3 earlier as well, but it slowed down and then stopped
 Quoting: Rane


Rane, thanks for this thread. This disaster is being studiously ignored by media and big gov/corp.

Please ignore the shills! If you get a lot of shills, it means you are totally on the right track!

If a reply starts out rude + swearing, don't read it. Skip it.

They don't deserve recognition if they are not going to be civil.

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