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Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.

 
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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
Next verse Islam tells that Jesus was black!?

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Narrated Abdullah: The Prophet mentioned the Massiah Ad-Dajjal in front of the people saying, Allah is not one eyed while Messsiah, Ad-Dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape. While sleeping near the Ka'ba last night, I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders. His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Kaba. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.
 Quoting: Haile Menelik


he did'n say black Or brown he said "Adam" and that mean like the color of soil and that was name Adam come from...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1398766


Who? Your Imam or this verse? Or Allah?

It says here point blank that Jesus is reddish/brown!!
 Quoting: Haile Menelik


I told you the haddithe didn't say black or brown it say "Adam" and that in arabic long mean the color of soil ..
translation " Adam " to color brown incorrect ,browen in arabic long is bony not Adam .
and that was from what I understand from word Adam as the arab native.
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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
Next verse Islam tells that Jesus was black!?

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649
Narrated Abdullah: The Prophet mentioned the Massiah Ad-Dajjal in front of the people saying, Allah is not one eyed while Messsiah, Ad-Dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape. While sleeping near the Ka'ba last night, I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders. His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Kaba. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.
 Quoting: Haile Menelik


he did'n say black Or brown he said "Adam" and that mean like the color of soil and that was name Adam come from...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1398766


Who? Your Imam or this verse? Or Allah?

It says here point blank that Jesus is reddish/brown!!
 Quoting: Haile Menelik


I told you the haddithe didn't say black or brown it say "Adam" and that in arabic long mean the color of soil ..
translation " Adam " to color brown incorrect ,browen in arabic long is bony not Adam .
and that was from what I understand from word Adam as the arab native.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1398766


Bullshit!! Jesus or Moses look like the People of Azzud according to your Quran!! Those People are Habeshas!! Nubian/Ethiopian Orthodox Christians!! Dont you lie to me satanic Allah worshippier!!

Last Edited by Haile Menelik on 06/03/2011 10:13 PM
Marcus 11: 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
both moses and jesus were negroes and so were 95% of the ancient kingdoms of the bible. from the sumerians to the persians, all negroes.
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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
both moses and jesus were negroes and so were 95% of the ancient kingdoms of the bible. from the sumerians to the persians, all negroes.
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Yeah, I understand it would be surprising if blonde people or reddish people where in that time in the Middle East?

Im Just saying!!

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Marcus 11: 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
both moses and jesus were negroes and so were 95% of the ancient kingdoms of the bible. from the sumerians to the persians, all negroes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1381291


Yeah, I understand it would be surprising if blonde people or reddish people where in that time in the Middle East?

Im Just saying!!
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the first set of whites that showed their faces in the ME were the greeks and that was somewhere in 350 bc. fact is the sumerians, persians, babylonians etc were not white nor middle eastern arabs. look at the wall sculptures and paintings of all the ancient kingdoms. they look nothing like the so called arabs and whites. this white supremacy need to stop.
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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
Sahih Bukhari, book 55

648 Narrated Ibn Umar: The Prophet said, "I saw Moses, Jesus and Abraham (on the night of my Ascension to the heavens). Jesus was of red complexion, curly hair and a broad chest. Moses was of brown complexion, straight hair and tall stature as if he was from the people of Az-Zutt."

So ancient Israel was Black/White mixed?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Haile Menelik


Note: People of Az-Zutt look like the people of Sudan

Source:
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'The Description of Jesus Christ by Publius Lentullus'

The following was taken from a manuscript in the possession of Lord Kelly, and in his library, and was copied from an original letter of Publius Lentullus at Rome. It being the usual custom of Roman Governors to advertise the Senate and people of such material things as happened in their provinces in the days of Tiberius Caesar, Publius Lentullus, Governor of Judea before Pontius Pilate, wrote the following epistle to the Senate concerning the Nazarene called Jesus.

"There appeared in these our days a man, of the Jewish Nation, of great virtue, named Yeshua [Jesus], who is yet living among us, and of the Gentiles is accepted for a Prophet of truth, but His own disciples call Him the Son of God- He raiseth the dead and cureth all manner of diseases. A man of stature somewhat tall, and comely, with very reverent countenance, such as the beholders may both love and fear, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders. In the midst of His head is a seam or partition in His hair, after the manner of the Nazarenes. His forehead plain and very delicate; His face without spot or wrinkle, beautified with a lovely red; His nose and mouth so formed as nothing can be reprehended; His beard thickish, in colour like His hair, not very long, but forked; His look innocent and mature; His eyes grey, clear, and quick- In reproving hypocrisy He is terrible; in admonishing, courteous and fair spoken; pleasant in conversation, mixed with gravity. It cannot be remembered that any have seen Him laugh, but many have seen Him weep. In proportion of body, most excellent; His hands and arms delicate to behold. In speaking, very temperate, modest, and wise. A man, for His singular beauty, surpassing the children of men"

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'The letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar'

This is a reprinting of a letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar describing the physical appearance of Jesus. Copies are in the Congressional Library in Washington, D.C.

TO TIBERIUS CAESAR:

A young man appeared in Galilee preaching with humble unction, a new law in the Name of the God that had sent Him. At first I was apprehensive that His design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the jewish people. One day I observed in the midst of a group of people a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected so great was the difference between Him and those who were listening to Him. His golden colored hair and beard gave to his appearance a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about 30 years of age. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serene countenance. What a contrast between Him and His bearers with their black beards and tawny complexions! Unwilling to interrupt Him by my presence, I continued my walk but signified to my secretary to join the group and listen. Later, my secretary reported that never had he seen in the works of all the philosophers anything that compared to the teachings of Jesus. He told me that Jesus was neither seditious nor rebellious, so we extended to Him our protection. He was at liberty to act, to speak, to assemble and to address the people. This unlimited freedom provoked the jewish people -- not the poor but the rich and powerful.

Later, I wrote to Jesus requesting an interview with Him at the Praetorium. He came. When the Nazarene made His appearance I was having my morning walk and as I faced Him my feet seemed fastened with an iron hand to the marble pavement and I trembled in every limb as a guilty culprit, though he was calm. For some time I stood admiring this extraordinary Man. There was nothing in Him that was repelling, nor in His character, yet I felt awed in His presence. I told Him that there was a magnetic simplicity about Him and His personality that elevated Him far above the philosophers and teachers of His day.

Now, Noble Sovereign, these are the facts concerning Jesus of Nazareth and I have taken the time to write you in detail concerning these matters. I say that such a man who could convert water into wine, change death into life, disease into health; calm the stormy seas, is not guilty of any criminal offense and as others have said, we must agree -- truly this is the Son of God.

Your most obedient servant,
Pontius Pilate

[link to www.thenazareneway.com]
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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
Sahih Bukhari, book 55

648 Narrated Ibn Umar: The Prophet said, "I saw Moses, Jesus and Abraham (on the night of my Ascension to the heavens). Jesus was of red complexion, curly hair and a broad chest. Moses was of brown complexion, straight hair and tall stature as if he was from the people of Az-Zutt."

So ancient Israel was Black/White mixed?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Haile Menelik


zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
The letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar

This is a reprinting of a letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar describing the physical appearance of Jesus. Copies are in the Congressional Library in Washington, D.C.

TO TIBERIUS CAESAR:

A young man appeared in Galilee preaching with humble unction, a new law in the Name of the God that had sent Him. At first I was apprehensive that His design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the jewish people. One day I observed in the midst of a group of people a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected so great was the difference between Him and those who were listening to Him. His golden colored hair and beard gave to his appearance a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about 30 years of age. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serene countenance. What a contrast between Him and His bearers with their black beards and tawny complexions! Unwilling to interrupt Him by my presence, I continued my walk but signified to my secretary to join the group and listen. Later, my secretary reported that never had he seen in the works of all the philosophers anything that compared to the teachings of Jesus. He told me that Jesus was neither seditious nor rebellious, so we extended to Him our protection. He was at liberty to act, to speak, to assemble and to address the people. This unlimited freedom provoked the jewish people -- not the poor but the rich and powerful.

Later, I wrote to Jesus requesting an interview with Him at the Praetorium. He came. When the Nazarene made His appearance I was having my morning walk and as I faced Him my feet seemed fastened with an iron hand to the marble pavement and I trembled in every limb as a guilty culprit, though he was calm. For some time I stood admiring this extraordinary Man. There was nothing in Him that was repelling, nor in His character, yet I felt awed in His presence. I told Him that there was a magnetic simplicity about Him and His personality that elevated Him far above the philosophers and teachers of His day.

Now, Noble Sovereign, these are the facts concerning Jesus of Nazareth and I have taken the time to write you in detail concerning these matters. I say that such a man who could convert water into wine, change death into life, disease into health; calm the stormy seas, is not guilty of any criminal offense and as others have said, we must agree -- truly this is the Son of God.

Your most obedient servant,
Pontius Pilate

"The Archko Volume"

Another description of Jesus is found in "The Archko Volume" which contains official court documents from the days of Jesus. This information substantiates that He came from racial lines which had blue eyes and golden hair. In a chapter entitled "Gamaliel's Interview" it states concerning Jesus (Yeshua) appearance:

"I asked him to describe this person to me, so that I might know him if I should meet him. He said: 'If you ever meet him [Yeshua] you will know him. While he is nothing but a man, there is something about him that distinguishes him from every other man. He is the picture of his mother, only he has not her smooth, round face. His hair is a little more golden than hers, though it is as much from sunburn as anything else. He is tall, and his shoulders are a little drooped; his visage is thin and of a swarthy complexion, though this is from exposure. His eyes are large and a soft blue, and rather dull and heavy....' This Jew [Nazarite] is convinced that he is the Messiah of the world. ...this was the same person that was born of the virgin in Bethlehem some twenty-six years before..."

- The Archko Volume, translated by Drs. McIntosh and Twyman of the Antiquarian Lodge, Genoa, Italy, from manuscripts in Constantinople and the records of the Senatorial Docket taken from the Vatican of Rome (1896) 92-93

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now that is interesting
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


People completely ignore the FACT that, whites/Caucasians were much darker in the past from sun exposure. White people tan and look a variety of shades of brown and reddish brown in their tanned state. Depictions and accounts of skin color not always being "bone white" does not in any way, PROVE the person was not Caucasian.

The Mediterranean whites are also darker skinned in their natural, untanned state.

White people of today are extremely pale compared to their ancestors due to their modern, primarily indoor lifestyles. If you were a white man living and working and walking in the desert thousands of years ago, you would not be pale for very long. You would be brown.
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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
Sahih Bukhari, book 55

648 Narrated Ibn Umar: The Prophet said, "I saw Moses, Jesus and Abraham (on the night of my Ascension to the heavens). Jesus was of red complexion, curly hair and a broad chest. Moses was of brown complexion, straight hair and tall stature as if he was from the people of Az-Zutt."

So ancient Israel was Black/White mixed?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Haile Menelik


zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Moses was brown yep

He came from the rivers of Nubia, the Nile


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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
both moses and jesus were negroes and so were 95% of the ancient kingdoms of the bible. from the sumerians to the persians, all negroes.
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Yeah I know
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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
Makes sense that Jesus had a broad chest. He was trained as a manual laborer and craftsman.
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He was a carpenter. What else. He should have saw threes or sought out wood in the field because off his work. Thats why he got his broad chest.

I dont understand why Islam has this knowledge and Christianity doesn´t. It doenst make any sence, I miss a link.
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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
moses and muhommad were freemason initiates and jesus is a hologram so I wouldn't trust them if I were you but muhommad was telling the truth about Our Lady being God haha I bet lucifer is torturing him right now for letting that one slip
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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
Next verse Islam tells that Jesus was black!?

Contradictions?


649
Narrated Abdullah: The Prophet mentioned the Massiah Ad-Dajjal in front of the people saying, Allah is not one eyed while Messsiah, Ad-Dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape. While sleeping near the Ka'ba last night, I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders. His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Kaba. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.
 Quoting: Haile Menelik


Ohhh now I get it

Jesus was a rastaman!!!

5a

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Re: Moses was a brown men and Jesus was reddish according to Islam.
Those verses aren't from the Qur'an, they're just life stories attributed to Muhammed, which were collated hundreds of years after his death.

Jesus probably looked like any current Palestinian or Lebanese person today.





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