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| sling (OP) User ID: 369281 Canada05/24/2011 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So does Jesus, who is King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, need to use any evil vermin who are otherwise known as the greys/reptiles, insectoids, annunaki, fallen angels, pleidians or any any other off world miscreants/fallen angels etc, to create crop circles, and prepare humans for ascension, and to help Him bring His Kingdom into the earth? I don't think so! Wake up folks, you are being had by Crop Circles and New Age channeled Mumbo Jumbo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The purpose of Crop Circles is to deceive the gullible. The Reptiles are are here to serve you alright,...for dinner that is! Last Edited by sling on 05/24/2011 09:05 AM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 750445 United States05/24/2011 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now I'll just sit back and watch the hate-spewing vermin start their attacks on the Bible. THEY HATE IT .. and cant bear to let the truth come out. |
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| sling (OP) User ID: 369281 Canada05/24/2011 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd like MIT calculate the odds against the fullfilment of over 100 prophecies contained within the scriptures. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750445Now I'll just sit back and watch the hate-spewing vermin start their attacks on the Bible. THEY HATE IT .. and cant bear to let the truth come out. I'll join you! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1397879  Slovenia05/24/2011 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course now GLP God haters will argue they are smarter than MIT too! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282080 Massachusetts Institute of Technology [link to web.mit.edu] has never published any study with such results. It's not M.I.T. but just another Xtardish myth. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 821747 United States05/24/2011 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fallacy in the argument is that these things were beyond human control. I'll give one example. That he was pierced in the side. The prophecy was well known. Here's a guy hanging on a cross because he is supposedly the messiah. The followers of Christ are all blabbing about the prophecies being fulfilled and how they can't wait to see a Roman soldier stab him in the side with a spear. Roman soldier overhears, says what the hell (or what the hades I guess) and gives Jesus a good poke. SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY. Here's another example. Place of birth, Bethlehem. The entire Jewish nation, chafing under the boot of Rome, is anxious for a messiah to liberate them. Some of the religious nuts say that the prophecies are due to be fulfilled. One of them says that the messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Everyone knows this. So guys look in the mirror - Could I be the messiah? Nah, I'm not born in Bethlehem. But how about everybody who was born around that time in that city? They say, hmm, maybe it could be me. And as we see around us every day, it's not uncommon for a man to develop a God complex. SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY. Then you have the concept of "prophecy" written after the fact and passed off as being written aforetime. If all of these prophecies had been written in secret, sealed in a buried time capsule confirmed to have been well in advance of the events, and not uncovered until our day, then maybe you could make a point. But as soon as "prophecies" are published, all bets are off and mathematical "studies" like this are pure horse shit. |
| sling (OP) User ID: 369281 Canada05/24/2011 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course now GLP God haters will argue they are smarter than MIT too! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282080Massachusetts Institute of Technology [link to web.mit.edu] has never published any study with such results. It's not M.I.T. but just another Xtardish myth. [link to www.eons.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1398167  Norway05/24/2011 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fallacy in the argument is that these things were beyond human control. I'll give one example. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821747That he was pierced in the side. The prophecy was well known. Here's a guy hanging on a cross because he is supposedly the messiah. The followers of Christ are all blabbing about the prophecies being fulfilled and how they can't wait to see a Roman soldier stab him in the side with a spear. Roman soldier overhears, says what the hell (or what the hades I guess) and gives Jesus a good poke. SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY. Here's another example. Place of birth, Bethlehem. The entire Jewish nation, chafing under the boot of Rome, is anxious for a messiah to liberate them. Some of the religious nuts say that the prophecies are due to be fulfilled. One of them says that the messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Everyone knows this. So guys look in the mirror - Could I be the messiah? Nah, I'm not born in Bethlehem. But how about everybody who was born around that time in that city? They say, hmm, maybe it could be me. And as we see around us every day, it's not uncommon for a man to develop a God complex. SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY. Then you have the concept of "prophecy" written after the fact and passed off as being written aforetime. If all of these prophecies had been written in secret, sealed in a buried time capsule confirmed to have been well in advance of the events, and not uncovered until our day, then maybe you could make a point. But as soon as "prophecies" are published, all bets are off and mathematical "studies" like this are pure horse shit. Even if it went about like you propose, which I disagree with, it would still be a fulfilled prophesy. It would still be part of the plan. |
| sling (OP) User ID: 369281 Canada05/24/2011 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After reading all of the comments, it just shows how incredibly blind and stupid you bible tards are. The MIT study basically says the bible is BS. You are all truly stupid people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1106842This one really takes the cake! |
| Godsontoo User ID: 1258525 United States05/24/2011 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fallacy in the argument is that these things were beyond human control. I'll give one example. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821747That he was pierced in the side. The prophecy was well known. Here's a guy hanging on a cross because he is supposedly the messiah. The followers of Christ are all blabbing about the prophecies being fulfilled and how they can't wait to see a Roman soldier stab him in the side with a spear. Roman soldier overhears, says what the hell (or what the hades I guess) and gives Jesus a good poke. SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY. Here's another example. Place of birth, Bethlehem. The entire Jewish nation, chafing under the boot of Rome, is anxious for a messiah to liberate them. Some of the religious nuts say that the prophecies are due to be fulfilled. One of them says that the messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Everyone knows this. So guys look in the mirror - Could I be the messiah? Nah, I'm not born in Bethlehem. But how about everybody who was born around that time in that city? They say, hmm, maybe it could be me. And as we see around us every day, it's not uncommon for a man to develop a God complex. SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY. Then you have the concept of "prophecy" written after the fact and passed off as being written aforetime. If all of these prophecies had been written in secret, sealed in a buried time capsule confirmed to have been well in advance of the events, and not uncovered until our day, then maybe you could make a point. But as soon as "prophecies" are published, all bets are off and mathematical "studies" like this are pure horse shit. Are you kidding me , read the old testament prophets and their prophecies concerning Christ , how can that be self fore filling . Denial and delusion cloud your thinking process. A Psalm of David. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever. †. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1397879 Slovenia05/24/2011 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course now GLP God haters will argue they are smarter than MIT too! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282080Massachusetts Institute of Technology [link to web.mit.edu] has never published any study with such results. It's not M.I.T. but just another Xtardish myth. [link to www.eons.com] That's an internet garbage written by Jerry Ballard from "Fisher's Of Men Group" without a link to the source. Can you find the alleged study on the MIT's official site [link to web.mit.edu] please? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1398280 United States05/24/2011 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course now GLP God haters will argue they are smarter than MIT too! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282080Massachusetts Institute of Technology [link to web.mit.edu] has never published any study with such results. It's not M.I.T. but just another Xtardish myth. [link to www.eons.com] That's an internet garbage written by Jerry Ballard from "Fisher's Of Men Group" without a link to the source. Can you find the alleged study on the MIT's official site [link to web.mit.edu] please? No of course he can't. It doesn't matter anyway because JESUS NEVER EXISTED. It's easy to make one fiction line up with another fiction's "prophecies". |
| sling (OP) User ID: 369281 Canada05/24/2011 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course now GLP God haters will argue they are smarter than MIT too! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282080Massachusetts Institute of Technology [link to web.mit.edu] has never published any study with such results. It's not M.I.T. but just another Xtardish myth. [link to www.eons.com] That's an internet garbage written by Jerry Ballard from "Fisher's Of Men Group" without a link to the source. Can you find the alleged study on the MIT's official site [link to web.mit.edu] please? Walk on water just once! Raise the dead, just once! Feed 5000 from a few loaves, just once! Do you really expect anyone in their right mind, to pay any attention to your blasphemy of Almighty God, Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Where is your claim to fame? Whats that? You don't have one? Oh I see then.................. Last Edited by sling on 05/24/2011 09:30 AM |
| sling (OP) User ID: 369281 Canada05/24/2011 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course now GLP God haters will argue they are smarter than MIT too! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282080Massachusetts Institute of Technology [link to web.mit.edu] has never published any study with such results. It's not M.I.T. but just another Xtardish myth. [link to www.eons.com] That's an internet garbage written by Jerry Ballard from "Fisher's Of Men Group" without a link to the source. Can you find the alleged study on the MIT's official site [link to web.mit.edu] please? So, anonymous from Slovenia, what are the odd's? Show us that we should hang on your every word. Do the math for us. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1397988  Germany05/24/2011 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397879Massachusetts Institute of Technology [link to web.mit.edu] has never published any study with such results. It's not M.I.T. but just another Xtardish myth. [link to www.eons.com] That's an internet garbage written by Jerry Ballard from "Fisher's Of Men Group" without a link to the source. Can you find the alleged study on the MIT's official site [link to web.mit.edu] please? No of course he can't. It doesn't matter anyway because JESUS NEVER EXISTED. It's easy to make one fiction line up with another fiction's "prophecies". The Mathematical Odds of Jesus Fulfilling Prophecy The following probabilities are taken from Peter Stoner in Science Speaks (Moody Press, 1963) to show that coincidence is ruled out by the science of probability. Stoner says that by using the modern science of probability in reference to just eight prophecies, " we find that the chance that any man might have lived at that present time and fulfilled just eight of the 300 prophecies is 1 in 1017." That would be 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. In order to help us comprehend this staggering probability, Stoner illustrates it by supposing that "we take 100,000,000,000,000,000 silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas. They will cover all of the state two feet deep. "Now mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly, all over the state. Blindfold a man and tell him that he can travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick up one silver dollar and say that this is the right one. What chance would he have of getting the right one? Just the same chance that the prophets would have had of writing only these eight prophecies and having them all come true in any one man." FREE Download for Peter Stoner's book Science Speaks in PDF format HERE [link to www.faithofachild.info] This information regarding Peter Stoner was taken from the book Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. And as for the idiotic "Jesus never existed" claim, find me 1 accredited, reputable Historian that will agree with that. You can't, because none exist! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1237121 Canada05/24/2011 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fallacy in the argument is that these things were beyond human control. I'll give one example. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821747That he was pierced in the side. The prophecy was well known. Here's a guy hanging on a cross because he is supposedly the messiah. The followers of Christ are all blabbing about the prophecies being fulfilled and how they can't wait to see a Roman soldier stab him in the side with a spear. Roman soldier overhears, says what the hell (or what the hades I guess) and gives Jesus a good poke. SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY. Here's another example. Place of birth, Bethlehem. The entire Jewish nation, chafing under the boot of Rome, is anxious for a messiah to liberate them. Some of the religious nuts say that the prophecies are due to be fulfilled. One of them says that the messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Everyone knows this. So guys look in the mirror - Could I be the messiah? Nah, I'm not born in Bethlehem. But how about everybody who was born around that time in that city? They say, hmm, maybe it could be me. And as we see around us every day, it's not uncommon for a man to develop a God complex. SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY. Then you have the concept of "prophecy" written after the fact and passed off as being written aforetime. If all of these prophecies had been written in secret, sealed in a buried time capsule confirmed to have been well in advance of the events, and not uncovered until our day, then maybe you could make a point. But as soon as "prophecies" are published, all bets are off and mathematical "studies" like this are pure horse shit. This is only supposing that we live in a free will universe. God created the Universe with a plan and destiny. He also created prophets. This means that we do not live in a free will universe. For prophecy to work at all, the future that will be must be viewable in the time dimension before it occurs. This means that it will have already occurred and is a part of the laid out and planned fabric of the universe. As there is a clear laid out plan which everything follows man has neither free will nor free choice. Every thing they think of as will and everything they perceive as a choice was according to the plan. Therefore the concept of a randomized selection did not occur, and Jesus fulfilled his destiny, exactly as each of us ore bound to. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1237121 Canada05/24/2011 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fallacy in the argument is that these things were beyond human control. I'll give one example. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821747<snip> Then you have the concept of "prophecy" written after the fact and passed off as being written aforetime. <snip> Even if it went about like you propose, which I disagree with, it would still be a fulfilled prophesy. It would still be part of the plan. Yes, thank you, you clearly understand this. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1398280 United States05/24/2011 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: sling That's an internet garbage written by Jerry Ballard from "Fisher's Of Men Group" without a link to the source. Can you find the alleged study on the MIT's official site [link to web.mit.edu] please? No of course he can't. It doesn't matter anyway because JESUS NEVER EXISTED. It's easy to make one fiction line up with another fiction's "prophecies". The Mathematical Odds of Jesus Fulfilling Prophecy The following probabilities are taken from Peter Stoner in Science Speaks (Moody Press, 1963) to show that coincidence is ruled out by the science of probability. Stoner says that by using the modern science of probability in reference to just eight prophecies, " we find that the chance that any man might have lived at that present time and fulfilled just eight of the 300 prophecies is 1 in 1017." That would be 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. In order to help us comprehend this staggering probability, Stoner illustrates it by supposing that "we take 100,000,000,000,000,000 silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas. They will cover all of the state two feet deep. "Now mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly, all over the state. Blindfold a man and tell him that he can travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick up one silver dollar and say that this is the right one. What chance would he have of getting the right one? Just the same chance that the prophets would have had of writing only these eight prophecies and having them all come true in any one man." FREE Download for Peter Stoner's book Science Speaks in PDF format HERE [link to www.faithofachild.info] This information regarding Peter Stoner was taken from the book Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. And as for the idiotic "Jesus never existed" claim, find me 1 accredited, reputable Historian that will agree with that. You can't, because none exist! Find me one reputable historian that will agree that he did exist? And I mean, specifically talking about Jesus. Not some off-hand reference to "the christ". *cough* Josephus *cough* [link to www.jesusneverexisted.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1398280 United States05/24/2011 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397879Massachusetts Institute of Technology [link to web.mit.edu] has never published any study with such results. It's not M.I.T. but just another Xtardish myth. [link to www.eons.com] That's an internet garbage written by Jerry Ballard from "Fisher's Of Men Group" without a link to the source. Can you find the alleged study on the MIT's official site [link to web.mit.edu] please? Walk on water just once! Raise the dead, just once! Feed 5000 from a few loaves, just once! Do you really expect anyone in their right mind, to pay any attention to your blasphemy of Almighty God, Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Where is your claim to fame? Whats that? You don't have one? Oh I see then.................. I see that you can't provide a link to the supposed study by MIT on their own website? LOL |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1398167 Norway05/24/2011 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fallacy in the argument is that these things were beyond human control. I'll give one example. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 821747That he was pierced in the side. The prophecy was well known. Here's a guy hanging on a cross because he is supposedly the messiah. The followers of Christ are all blabbing about the prophecies being fulfilled and how they can't wait to see a Roman soldier stab him in the side with a spear. Roman soldier overhears, says what the hell (or what the hades I guess) and gives Jesus a good poke. SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY. Here's another example. Place of birth, Bethlehem. The entire Jewish nation, chafing under the boot of Rome, is anxious for a messiah to liberate them. Some of the religious nuts say that the prophecies are due to be fulfilled. One of them says that the messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Everyone knows this. So guys look in the mirror - Could I be the messiah? Nah, I'm not born in Bethlehem. But how about everybody who was born around that time in that city? They say, hmm, maybe it could be me. And as we see around us every day, it's not uncommon for a man to develop a God complex. SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY. Then you have the concept of "prophecy" written after the fact and passed off as being written aforetime. If all of these prophecies had been written in secret, sealed in a buried time capsule confirmed to have been well in advance of the events, and not uncovered until our day, then maybe you could make a point. But as soon as "prophecies" are published, all bets are off and mathematical "studies" like this are pure horse shit. This is only supposing that we live in a free will universe. God created the Universe with a plan and destiny. He also created prophets. This means that we do not live in a free will universe. For prophecy to work at all, the future that will be must be viewable in the time dimension before it occurs. This means that it will have already occurred and is a part of the laid out and planned fabric of the universe. As there is a clear laid out plan which everything follows man has neither free will nor free choice. Every thing they think of as will and everything they perceive as a choice was according to the plan. Therefore the concept of a randomized selection did not occur, and Jesus fulfilled his destiny, exactly as each of us ore bound to. You are so right my friend. Sadly, misconceptions about free will has lead to many misconceptions about Christianity. There is free will in its true sense, but many people mistake free will for randomness. |
| sling (OP) User ID: 369281 Canada05/24/2011 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see that you can't provide a link to the supposed study by MIT on their own website? LOL Okay enlightened one, what are the odds, you want proof of the odds, calculate them, I could care less if the odds were calculated at the funny farm, the point is, WHAT ARE THE ODDS? WHAT ARE THE ODDS? WHAT ARE THE ODDS? If they are one in one hundred, one in a thousand or one in one million, what is the difference, it is humanly impossible to do what Jesus did! You are an atheist and will go to any lengths to prove you are right in your beliefs. This is the game you are playing. Last Edited by sling on 05/24/2011 09:46 AM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1397879 Slovenia05/24/2011 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397879Massachusetts Institute of Technology [link to web.mit.edu] has never published any study with such results. It's not M.I.T. but just another Xtardish myth. [link to www.eons.com] That's an internet garbage written by Jerry Ballard from "Fisher's Of Men Group" without a link to the source. Can you find the alleged study on the MIT's official site [link to web.mit.edu] please? Walk on water just once! Raise the dead, just once! Feed 5000 from a few loaves, just once! Do you really expect anyone in their right mind, to pay any attention to your blasphemy of Almighty God, Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Where is your claim to fame? Whats that? You don't have one? Oh I see then.................. Where is the link to the MIT study? *** The idea that it’s possible to “scientifically” prove that Jesus was the miracle-working God by using Bible alone is a classic error that religious zealots do - a circular “logic". If you start from assumption that all Biblical data are 100% factual - while ignoring any other data that might contradict them - then you can of course prove that the Bible is the factual truth. BTW, I deeply respect Jesus teachings on love, compassion, forgiveness and peace; but I take them as my own spiritual truth, not the factual one. * |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1237121 Canada05/24/2011 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see that you can't provide a link to the supposed study by MIT on their own website? LOL Quoting: slingOkay enlightened one, what are the odds, you want proof of the odds, calculate them, I could care less if the odds were calculated at the funny farm, the point is, WHAT ARE THE ODDS? WHAT ARE THE ODDS? WHAT ARE THE ODDS? If they are one in one hundred, one in a thousand or one in one million, what is the difference, it is humanly impossible to do what Jesus did! You are an atheist and will go to any lengths to prove you are right in your beliefs. This is the game you are playing. Odds and probability are misdirections. They assume that we live in a probabilistic universe where things happen by random chance. This assumption is not necessarily correct. The other assumption is that there is a plan and everything happens according to the plan. We humans are limited in our view of space/time. We see only the ever-present present as we flow into it, and speculate about the future as if it has not happened. It only has not happened according to our view. All that will happen in the future to our view is already written into the fabric of the universe by God's plan. There is no free will or free choice other than in our perceptions that we are making them. |
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