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Message Subject MIT Calculates Odds Of Jesus Fulfilling 8 Old Testament Prophecies!
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The fallacy in the argument is that these things were beyond human control. I'll give one example.

That he was pierced in the side. The prophecy was well known. Here's a guy hanging on a cross because he is supposedly the messiah. The followers of Christ are all blabbing about the prophecies being fulfilled and how they can't wait to see a Roman soldier stab him in the side with a spear. Roman soldier overhears, says what the hell (or what the hades I guess) and gives Jesus a good poke.

SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY.

Here's another example. Place of birth, Bethlehem. The entire Jewish nation, chafing under the boot of Rome, is anxious for a messiah to liberate them. Some of the religious nuts say that the prophecies are due to be fulfilled. One of them says that the messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Everyone knows this.

So guys look in the mirror - Could I be the messiah? Nah, I'm not born in Bethlehem. But how about everybody who was born around that time in that city? They say, hmm, maybe it could be me. And as we see around us every day, it's not uncommon for a man to develop a God complex.

SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY.

Then you have the concept of "prophecy" written after the fact and passed off as being written aforetime.

If all of these prophecies had been written in secret, sealed in a buried time capsule confirmed to have been well in advance of the events, and not uncovered until our day, then maybe you could make a point. But as soon as "prophecies" are published, all bets are off and mathematical "studies" like this are pure horse shit.
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This is only supposing that we live in a free will universe. God created the Universe with a plan and destiny. He also created prophets. This means that we do not live in a free will universe. For prophecy to work at all, the future that will be must be viewable in the time dimension before it occurs. This means that it will have already occurred and is a part of the laid out and planned fabric of the universe. As there is a clear laid out plan which everything follows man has neither free will nor free choice. Every thing they think of as will and everything they perceive as a choice was according to the plan.

Therefore the concept of a randomized selection did not occur, and Jesus fulfilled his destiny, exactly as each of us ore bound to.
 
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