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To all of you who have anything to say about Black people.

 
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ITs somethin you could never understand, The black american has been held down in this country. Yall think that just cuz we black we get everything free and all the jobs and all the promotions. that shit aint true,switch places wit a african, yall still wont hire him or promote him, so whats the difference
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Honestly, I wouldn't hire or promote anyone who wrote that paragraph (unless it was in the warehouse, etc.). Proper grasp of the English language is important in the job market.
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Hey, great post Johnny Boy.

And I might add, if you think it's bad for blacks, trying being a poor white person (because if you're poor and white, well there just isn't AN EXCUSE!).

Plus, aren't you forgetting one minor detail here in the history books, whites are the ones that freed your ancestors by instigating a Civil War over your ancestors slave labor.

This war not only killed unknown thousands of white soldiers, it bankrupted many white farms and states as well, and your ancestors were freed and given 40 acres and a mule. The alternatives explored at the time was to offer the slaves passage back to Africa, but they turned it down.

Ok, question: If blacks or African-Americans, whichever is preferred, despise America and whites so much, and think whites are overall the devil, then why do the white hating blacks stay in America and not go back to Africa?

If I were a purebred European (I'm not) and could gain access to another country (or origin) hell, I'd give it a whirl because I don't like what America is turning into, but it doesn't have anything to do with race; now if I were black and hated America and whites, why NOT give it a whirl and not be held back by perceived race/culture issues.


Seems sorta futile to keep fighting if you think you've been losing the past 150 years, I guess there is a time to waive the white flag and move on huh? Maybe try another country.
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Because of interracial relationships (as well as the rape of our ancestors by slave owners), most Black Americans aren't "purebred" either, so that point is moot.

OP, you've eloquently stated what I also (to no avail) have tried to convey in the past. It took a lot of courage to say what you said and I admire you for it. I'm sorry your words have fallen on deaf ears.
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two whole bachelor degrees... amazing...

who paid for em?
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Taxpayers paid while he was serving 5 to 10 for raping some white chick in da hood, muthafucka!
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It's so damn easy for white people to tell us to "get over" slavery because they weren't affected by it.
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ITs somethin you could never understand, The black american has been held down in this country. Yall think that just cuz we black we get everything free and all the jobs and all the promotions. that shit aint true,switch places wit a african, yall still wont hire him or promote him, so whats the difference
 Quoting: NewAge1


Honestly, I wouldn't hire or promote anyone who wrote that paragraph (unless it was in the warehouse, etc.). Proper grasp of the English language is important in the job market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 905363


It's also easy for them to nit-pick over such trivialities as grammar and syntax to ignore a valid point.
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It's so damn easy for white people to tell us to "get over" slavery because they weren't affected by it.
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Things are a changin. Won't be much longer now and whites will be the minority around these parts. Only then will they truly understand.
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Re: To all of you who have anything to say about Black people.
(Can't help myself, so here goes.........

1. American Black people are mainly descendants of peoples who were taken from their homelands (mainly because their own people including tribal chiefs sold them or traded them) and enslaved for multiple generations over hundreds of years (just like other people in US that were enslaved through the centuries, like Irish and Scottish).

Whites who purchased slaves were the criminals not tribal chiefs.Whites were violent,cruel,dirty,pathetic people.Plus their religion focres them to have slaves.

2. Systematic indoctrination and "dumbing down" made certain that the future of the cultures and peoples taken would never again be of great intellectual or socioeconomic significance (School is too hard and you won't let us get a diploma with a 60 average so you better lower your standards. / Not to mention all of the free monies for higher education that are available to black youth for several decades now ..... [link to scholarships.fatomei.com]

Below average whites get into top universities (like george bush-yale)just because of money and connections.Universities prefer whites over blacks.

3. Institutionalized segregation from higher education opportunities and/or employment (again, see comments above )create incredible adversity for those of us who want so badly to change our predetermined poverty and perceived ignorance. (And yes, affirmative action helped but now reverse racism is just as bad)

This is not reverse racism.This is social adjustment.Whites should not always be centre of universe

4. Although there are many of us who have and will continue to make wonderful situations and opportunities of our lives, there are a vast many more who will never even know what it means to have conviction or determination, let alone even be able to spell the words> (Conviction and determination is a self driven human emotions, has nothing to do with lack of because of the need to find someone at fault for not having it)

When economic opportunities are denied,people lose their determination.The economy is controlled by whites for whites.Other races just get scraps.

5. American black people are due reparations no matter what has become of the completely beaten down group of peoples who were originally enslaved and stolen from their lands. (Uh, I think they died centuries ago along with the slave owners.)

I think,we should get a separate state in america,only for blacks.

and one final point.

6. Most of the people who make comments about the activities, decisions or actions of American Black people, commonly have no contact with black people or an educated and experience-driven opinion worth listening to.(Most of us have had plenty of contact, thus the reason for our statements).

Yes,your girlfriends and wives have contact with many of us but not you.

In closing,
I have no need to call names or point fingers, you who have made racist comments have done plenty of that. We are one race of beings and really need to start realizing that those of us who are systematically kept in certain socioeconomic and cultural positions deserve a little more understanding.(Translation, you all keep giving us everything we want and then some, so we won't call Jackson or Sharpton on yo ass).

In closing,i say whites are the most dangerous aberration evolution has produced
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It's so damn easy for white people to tell us to "get over" slavery because they weren't affected by it.
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Things are a changin. Won't be much longer now and whites will be the minority around these parts. Only then will they truly understand.
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... But seriously guys and gals, take a step back and look at your own lives and try to realize that people who are told they will never amount to anything, will always think that way. ...
 Quoting: Tokpela

Wrong.

If someone tried to tell me that, and some did try at least to slow me down, I would just prove them wrong and embarrass them.

Are you trying to tell me that even black kids' mothers and (if present) fathers, as well as their school teachers, tell them they're going to amount to nothing? I do not believe it.

The only pervasive thing I can see that's telling these kids that they can't make it on their merits is affirmative action. It's obvious that many black success stories are the result of breaks available only to blacks and certain hispanics, in other words, they didn't accomplish as much as others to get there. Stop all this affirmative action nonsense, and then I would respect the accomplishments of all people, because all would have earned their way.
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There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire.

But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5)
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Re: To all of you who have anything to say about Black people.
Can't help myself, so here goes.........

1. American Black people are mainly descendants of peoples who were taken from their homelands (mainly because their own people including tribal chiefs sold them or traded them) and enslaved for multiple generations over hundreds of years (just like other people in US that were enslaved through the centuries, like Irish and Scottish).

Whites who purchased slaves were the criminals not tribal chiefs.Whites were violent,cruel,dirty,pathetic people.Plus their religion focres them to have slaves.

2. Systematic indoctrination and "dumbing down" made certain that the future of the cultures and peoples taken would never again be of great intellectual or socioeconomic significance (School is too hard and you won't let us get a diploma with a 60 average so you better lower your standards. / Not to mention all of the free monies for higher education that are available to black youth for several decades now ..... [link to scholarships.fatomei.com]

Below average whites get into top universities (like george bush-yale)just because of money and connections.Universities prefer whites over blacks.

3. Institutionalized segregation from higher education opportunities and/or employment (again, see comments above )create incredible adversity for those of us who want so badly to change our predetermined poverty and perceived ignorance. (And yes, affirmative action helped but now reverse racism is just as bad)

This is not reverse racism.This is social adjustment.Whites should not always be centre of universe

4. Although there are many of us who have and will continue to make wonderful situations and opportunities of our lives, there are a vast many more who will never even know what it means to have conviction or determination, let alone even be able to spell the words> (Conviction and determination is a self driven human emotions, has nothing to do with lack of because of the need to find someone at fault for not having it)

When economic opportunities are denied,people lose their determination.The economy is controlled by whites for whites.Other races just get scraps.

5. American black people are due reparations no matter what has become of the completely beaten down group of peoples who were originally enslaved and stolen from their lands. (Uh, I think they died centuries ago along with the slave owners.)

I think,we should get a separate state in america,only for blacks.

and one final point.

6. Most of the people who make comments about the activities, decisions or actions of American Black people, commonly have no contact with black people or an educated and experience-driven opinion worth listening to.(Most of us have had plenty of contact, thus the reason for our statements).

Yes,your girlfriends and wives have contact with many of us but not you.

In closing,
I have no need to call names or point fingers, you who have made racist comments have done plenty of that. We are one race of beings and really need to start realizing that those of us who are systematically kept in certain socioeconomic and cultural positions deserve a little more understanding.(Translation, you all keep giving us everything we want and then some, so we won't call Jackson or Sharpton on yo ass).

In closing,i say whites are the most dangerous aberration evolution has produced
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...Universities prefer whites over blacks.
...
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Are you freakin' kidding me? A black with 600-600-600 SATs would probably get into an Ivy League college. A white or asian kid with 700-700-700 might not. The difference between those two scores is extremely vast.

Are all your other statements as laughable as that one?
HE'S A CHEATER, SHE'S A WHORE!

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There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire.

But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5)
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ITs somethin you could never understand, The black american has been held down in this country. Yall think that just cuz we black we get everything free and all the jobs and all the promotions. that shit aint true,switch places wit a african, yall still wont hire him or promote him, so whats the difference
 Quoting: NewAge1


Honestly, I wouldn't hire or promote anyone who wrote that paragraph (unless it was in the warehouse, etc.). Proper grasp of the English language is important in the job market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 905363


It's also easy for them to nit-pick over such trivialities as grammar and syntax to ignore a valid point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402552


Such things are not trivial in the business world. A man who speaks proper English sounds professional, and that reflects on the company itself.

I would not, for example, hire a lawyer whose grasp of English was so poor -- especially if English was his first (and only) language.
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best advice was to keep negative people out of your life.
try to find positive, encouraging and helpful people in
your close group.
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It's so damn easy for white people to tell us to "get over" slavery because they weren't affected by it.
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Things are a changin. Won't be much longer now and whites will be the minority around these parts. Only then will they truly understand.
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whites were always minority in the countries they invaded.Nothing new with america either
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best advice was to keep negative people out of your life.
try to find positive, encouraging and helpful people in
your close group.
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difficult advice but the best one
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This is not reverse racism.This is social adjustment.Whites should not always be centre of universe
...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1300594

There you go. Social engineering. Adjust the standards so the whites (and asians, you "forgot" to mention them) get less, because we shall pretend that race must be uncorrelated with academic ability despite all the evidence. Equality of outcomes to create the society with the color mixture that we envision.

Some people think this way.
HE'S A CHEATER, SHE'S A WHORE!

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There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire.

But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5)
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ITs somethin you could never understand, The black american has been held down in this country. Yall think that just cuz we black we get everything free and all the jobs and all the promotions. that shit aint true,switch places wit a african, yall still wont hire him or promote him, so whats the difference
 Quoting: NewAge1


Honestly, I wouldn't hire or promote anyone who wrote that paragraph (unless it was in the warehouse, etc.). Proper grasp of the English language is important in the job market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 905363


It's also easy for them to nit-pick over such trivialities as grammar and syntax to ignore a valid point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402552


Such things are not trivial in the business world. A man who speaks proper English sounds professional, and that reflects on the company itself.

I would not, for example, hire a lawyer whose grasp of English was so poor -- especially if English was his first (and only) language.
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hey,you elected a bumbling idiot, who cant speak or write his name, as president....
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...Universities prefer whites over blacks.
...
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Are you freakin' kidding me? A black with 600-600-600 SATs would probably get into an Ivy League college. A white or asian kid with 700-700-700 might not. The difference between those two scores is extremely vast.

Are all your other statements as laughable as that one?
 Quoting: oniongrass



Do you honestly think that a college admissions officer, given the choice of accepting either Becky Smith and Shanté Jenkins - both girls with the same SAT scores, high school GPA, and extra-curriculars - wouldn't choose Becky?

If so, you're delusional.
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...Universities prefer whites over blacks.
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Are you freakin' kidding me? A black with 600-600-600 SATs would probably get into an Ivy League college. A white or asian kid with 700-700-700 might not. The difference between those two scores is extremely vast.

Are all your other statements as laughable as that one?
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LOL, if that were true. I wouldn't have went to community college.
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This is not reverse racism.This is social adjustment.Whites should not always be centre of universe
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1300594

There you go. Social engineering. Adjust the standards so the whites (and asians, you "forgot" to mention them) get less, because we shall pretend that race must be uncorrelated with academic ability despite all the evidence. Equality of outcomes to create the society with the color mixture that we envision.

Some people think this way.
 Quoting: oniongrass


No,i don't condone less gifted students to get a complicated degree in sciences.There should not be compromise in academics.Never.They should help people till high school graduation.After that,each on his/her own.
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I'm not going to make excuses for GWB even though he's white.

But a bumbling rich black kid would get the same treatment. Indeed, a bumbling black kid who is completely un-special gets pretty good treatment if he so much as shows interest in picking up the affirmative action advantages made available to him.
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There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire.

But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5)
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Honestly, I wouldn't hire or promote anyone who wrote that paragraph (unless it was in the warehouse, etc.). Proper grasp of the English language is important in the job market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 905363


It's also easy for them to nit-pick over such trivialities as grammar and syntax to ignore a valid point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402552


Such things are not trivial in the business world. A man who speaks proper English sounds professional, and that reflects on the company itself.

I would not, for example, hire a lawyer whose grasp of English was so poor -- especially if English was his first (and only) language.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 905363


hey,you elected a bumbling idiot, who cant speak or write his name, as president....
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Canada does not have a President.
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This is not reverse racism.This is social adjustment.Whites should not always be centre of universe
...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1300594

There you go. Social engineering. Adjust the standards so the whites (and asians, you "forgot" to mention them) get less, because we shall pretend that race must be uncorrelated with academic ability despite all the evidence. Equality of outcomes to create the society with the color mixture that we envision.

Some people think this way.
 Quoting: oniongrass


No,i don't condone less gifted students to get a complicated degree in sciences.There should not be compromise in academics.Never.They should help people till high school graduation.After that,each on his/her own.
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Then you need to familiarize yourself with the situation in the USA.
HE'S A CHEATER, SHE'S A WHORE!

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There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire.

But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5)
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Re: To all of you who have anything to say about Black people.
Why don't blacks sue the ancestors of the original slave owners in a class action rather than expect innocent people who had nothing to do with the enslavement of their ancestors to pay?

Besides, ORIGINAL LAND OWNERS are paid reparations, not slaves.
And you charge keep and board for the slaves, take out their ship fare over, how much would they really have earned after their expenses are taken out anyway? My guess NONE.

And I know at least 3 Africans who would trade positions with an African American anyday. Maybe it's time to do a swap and see how well true Africans do in America with all the perks not available to them in Africa?
My guess is ....THEY'D DO VERY WELL.
Cause they don't have an entitlement hang up.
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ITs somethin you could never understand, The black american has been held down in this country. Yall think that just cuz we black we get everything free and all the jobs and all the promotions. that shit aint true,switch places wit a african, yall still wont hire him or promote him, so whats the difference
 Quoting: NewAge1


Sorry dude, I don't buy it.
Women were held down for centuries too and look how well they do in 2011.
If women can do it, so can black men.
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Re: To all of you who have anything to say about Black people.
OP, you can fuck your reparations and the horse they rode in on.

Maybe you ought to go read the Gettysburg Address and Lincoln's 2nd Inaugural Address. The part about paying for slavery with our blood.

Slavery has been a world wide institution. The US is one of the first nations to outlaw it. As has been said by black men, the luckiest blacks are the ones who are the progeny of the enslaved blacks who were brought to America.

The blacks who are still in Africa are having a hell of a time. Ask the black Sudanese who have been a victim of slavery for over 500 years.

Go to Libera or the Ivory Coast or any of a number of countries in Africa and see how horrible it is there for blacks. In Liberia, the lighter skinned blacks who moved there from the US basically enslaved the Liberians.

Thank you lucky stars you are here. You could be a slave in the Sudan instead. The same is true for all those you're trying to get reparations for - they could be slaves RIGHT NOW!!
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...Universities prefer whites over blacks.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1300594


Are you freakin' kidding me? A black with 600-600-600 SATs would probably get into an Ivy League college. A white or asian kid with 700-700-700 might not. The difference between those two scores is extremely vast.

Are all your other statements as laughable as that one?
 Quoting: oniongrass


LOL, if that were true. I wouldn't have went to community college.
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Ah, "wouldn't have went"? Did you really get 600 verbal or essay?
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There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire.

But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5)
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Are you freakin' kidding me? A black with 600-600-600 SATs would probably get into an Ivy League college. A white or asian kid with 700-700-700 might not. The difference between those two scores is extremely vast.

Are all your other statements as laughable as that one?
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Do you honestly think that a college admissions officer, given the choice of accepting either Becky Smith and Shanté Jenkins - both girls with the same SAT scores, high school GPA, and extra-curriculars - wouldn't choose Becky?

If so, you're delusional.

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becky smith will be preferred over shante
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ITs somethin you could never understand, The black american has been held down in this country. Yall think that just cuz we black we get everything free and all the jobs and all the promotions. that shit aint true,switch places wit a african, yall still wont hire him or promote him, so whats the difference
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Honestly, I wouldn't hire or promote anyone who wrote that paragraph (unless it was in the warehouse, etc.). Proper grasp of the English language is important in the job market.
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this is not the job market Trevor
CITY
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whites were always minority in the countries they invaded.Nothing new with america either
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Without a doubt, but with awareness growing of the white man's exploiting everyone around them for their own gain (jews included)... I wouldn't be surprised if the entire race is targeted for extermination by brown folks.
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It's so damn easy for white people to tell us to "get over" slavery because they weren't affected by it.
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Things are a changin. Won't be much longer now and whites will be the minority around these parts. Only then will they truly understand.
 Quoting: Silkstalkings


Yeah but don't forget most of the discrimination laws are in favour of MINORITIES. Not to mention Affirmative Action for minorities. You can guarantee that whites will do a lot better as minorities and use these services a lot more productively than blacks have over the last 30 years.

It's to do with SMARTS not NUMBERS.





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